One of the terrible things they started in this 2K is limiting MyCareer to Online ONLY access, meaning you can't play any 2K MyCareer from 2K17 until now once they shut the servers off, so you can't even retrospectively play one of if not THE most popular mode in the game when you try to play it now

I remember how much criticism 2k17 used to get during its lifecycle. I think it’s now shown in a more positive light because of nostalgia and 2k18 being so bad.

2k16 was the 1st 2k to nerf our players, 2k17 turned us into straight up role players. People only Romanticize it because it was the last one with good parks

2K16 was so amazing, and I still play it today. 2K17 and 18 made it feel like 2K16 was a game from the distant future.

I’m so glad somebody finally said it 😭

The thing that I liked about 2K17 was that it was the first 2K that allowed you expand the league to as many as 36 teams.

2K17 was such a , weird game looking back at it. In between what many call the Goat of 2K (NBA 2k16) and the worst 2K ever (2K18). For me it was a decent game like you said, but I feel a lot of nostalgia has blinded some people on how they feel about the game cause for me this was the start of the end of quality 2K NBA games.

This game was a buggy mess and the paul george screen is infamous. But I sank nearly my entire freshman year of college into this game with friends. It'll always have a spot in my heart

2K17 was definitely where the series started to go off the tracks.

Funny enough I think this was the last 2K game where I genuinely had a lot of fun

I know this game is overrated, but I honestly still adore it just cause I played a ton of it back when I was a kid and it just came out. I did buy a copy of 2K16 a little while ago I need to give it a try

I remember this game was so unfinished at launch that players really thought a patch update would include new parks 😂

One seldom mentioned detail about 2K17 is that it was the last game to offer the rookie difficulty in My Career. For some reason (probably to push people into buying VC) 2K18 axed rookie from My Career altogether

The reason why NBA 2K, 17 was bad is because Ben Simmons had a good three-point shot lol

I still vividly remember everyone hating on this game when it came out and then everyone turned around it blindly liked it because of 2k18. Reminds of a similar situation a certain Star Wars prequel is in🤔

Strictly offline player here-replayed Jordan Challenge in 2K11, and as you allude to, it holds up surprisingly well to this day. My “daily driver” 2K is 2K16. To my eye, it’s better looking on PC than all subsequent PC versions. Thank you for this great look at where 2K really started dropped the ball.

This guy really says what it is already on our minds about our favorite sports games. Thank you for what you do. I am curious if you have any opinions on NCAA March Madness 06. I love the College Classics in those games.

I think 2k20 is up here too. I remember it being the worst game at launch at it being so broken and just garbage. However, people had to play it during quarentine and they link 2k20 to only that time and think it was a good game. It was just the memories. The game was awful

You know how bad 2k18 had to be for people to go back and call 17 the GOAT!?!?😂😂😂

I'm still rocking 2k16, and it's all I need for a solid hoop game.

One of the reason why people love this game was because 18 was so unbearable

The offline mode was amazing. I really enjoyed it.

I'd love to see a video on what you think the most overrated games in other sports franchises are. Madden, FIFA, NHL etc.

I like Michael B as Justice. That’s what I remember most fondly I think.

I swear y’all so nostalgic y’all call anything in 2017 the best the gold

It was not overrated. It was a good game. Some silly things like Paul George screen made it annoying but it’s still a top 3 2k of all time in my opinion

2k18 was so bad that it made 2k17 looks good I had a lot of fun with 17 but it was a ok game at best

SOFTDRINKTV hits it out of the park once again with another amazing video

I still play it to this day

ill always remember how someone was spam dribbling in front of me while i wasnt touching my controller and my character still fell over from an "ankle breaker"

FINALLY somebody said it. Real 2k OGs remember when 2k17 came out, everybody complained it was 2k16.5. Many players went back to 2k16 right after launch

I mean I thought 2k17 was just okay but sheesh I remember people 💩‘ing on 17 back then!!!! Now people act like it was the greatest 2k ever…can’t take the 2k community seriously at all.

Still not as horrible as 2k23 ….2k18 is the worst and 2k23 is definitely second worst in 2k history

NBA 2K16 is the GOAT.

Great video, but if i'm being honest, outside of 2k20, 17 was the last game that genuinely made me happy to play and I know i'm not alone, nostalgia plays a big part yeah, but even so I had unlimited fun on this game I think it's rated perfectly fine in my opinion.

Counterargument: my opinion is more valuable than yours

Idc, 2k17s my career will forever be the best in the series. Nothing will ever touch the greatness that was Orange Juice.

i’ve literally liked 2k17💀i hate the body types, the gameplay, and the fact that they put kobe on the cover with no game mode

I’ve been saying this for years now thank you for voicing this

ill take any nba2k game over any madden tho

I love your content SD and I think you made some pretty valid arguments with supporting criticism. A.I was braindead as someone who played MyGm and mycareer all day, Multiple glitches in the park, and a downgrade in presentation from 2k16, but it all boils down to what you said fond memories. As of now 2k is extremely dry with expensive monetization, dull unfair gameplay and the community is less a community and more seeing who’s the best on the game (aka who can abuse cheese more). But 2k17 even with its cheese was fun. 2k content would leap forward with multiple 2k KZfaqrs creating content that you rarely see nowadays, the mycareer while corny at times was memorable and the storyline and character dynamics made it seem like you just weren’t playing games to upgrade and play in park but playing to also see what happened in the story, you could go into park with 55 overall centers and still do good , and lots of little gameplay changes such as them trying to dial back on animations made for funner gameplay moments. I was about 13 when it came out and I had a lot of good memories from the game you just don’t get with 23. While 2k23 is a better basketball game it’s not a better game if that makes sense.

Soft Drink do you think when Mlb The Show 23 comes out you could give your review on it? I’ve always been a Mlb the show fan. And they’ve actually updated Franchise mode. And added Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa sounds unbelievable right? This would be great.

It is overrated but I absolutely love it. Shooting felt so clean and the story mode was endearing. I will never forget the feeling of throwing a lob to myself as Micheal b Jordan

I remember 17 was so bad to me I was still playing 16 that whole year

Forgot to mention the ugly graphics and player models where everyone either looked like a bodybuilder or anorexic

Damn.....I actually liked 2k17......it has it's problems but no matter the difficulty........ shooting worked lol

Thank you i tell my nephew all the time just because you and your friends are having fun playing a game doesnt mean the game isnt mid

the overhaul to MyLeague and MyGM makes 2k17 not overrated for that reason. The draft classes could be carefully made, and it wasn't just a bunch of cookie cutter players. I ended up making like 10 draft classes, downloaded another 5-6 and had my own league last into the 2030's. There is nothing else like it. The amount of control and creativity with the simulation aspect of the game is incredible. I do agree with others that 2k16 had the best gameplay but 2k17 franchise mode is legit AF

nostalgia has people calling this the best 2k of all time and i never understood it

You just cleared a lot of things up for me, I’ve always praised 2k17 but I first got the game months after launch when they fixed the game for the most part luckily, even when I got the game there was still the loading screen issues.

No😭 this was the most fun I had in a 2k

NBA 2K17's MyLEAGUE introduced expansion teams and the ability to download custom team designs from 2K's servers.

2k18 made it look better

2k20 deffo stole the throne off 2k17 for most overrated 2K ever never seen a game so irrelevant before quarantine but after quarantine it’s regarded as one of the best smh

Definitely against you on this one, 2k17 wasn’t perfect but the my park was amazing even with the face scan glitch and speed boosters. I get the loading screens took forever but still 2k18 and up the badge grind is more annoying then loading screens

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. This game was terrible

2K17 seriously started the downfall on the series and pretty much knew how bad it was when it came out. They completely screwed up the defense and movement and it never got better since. Still wish 2K16 was still available to play online.

That Paul George loading screen was the worst

17 was the peak of the community thats why its overrated

I don't agree on most points as a person who pre-ordered this game. In the year span it launched 2k17 only had the majority of these problems mentioned for less than a month post-launch. The game had its flaws but nothing close to modern 2k issues. You mentioned the beginning of forcing players to be online in order to buy more VC. To an extent I agree, however, I must mention that if you play continuously everything in this 2k is more than achievable just through normal grind. Modern 2k this is simply almost impossible for any working adult.

Man I’m sorry but this game holds a special place in my heart😭😭

Bro I’m happy u said this, 16 is by far better. 17 had terrible animations. Just good dribbling and nostalgia

Good video but umm…. We not gonna talk about how some of these clips have a TNT scoreboard, and 2k17 didn’t have that lol.

We’ll never forget the Paul George loading screen

Oh man! Get to work, see a new SDTV video.. ftw! Can't wait to grab a snack and watch! I did enjoy this game. Was the last one that had KG active on the Wolves lol

I've seen people put 2k17 up there with 2k16 and 2k11and its baffling. The only reason it gets praise is because pretty every 2k since has somehow been worse.

I stopped buying 2k after this. Not only because it was a bad game but I also lost interest in the NBA. It confuses me so much how people say this game was the last great 2k. Either 2k18 was so bad that it made people look at 2k17 in a better light or they forgot how good 2k16 was.

once christmas came around and the patches hit, 2k17 was cold af it was certainly better than 18 imo

The servers for this game were SOOOOO BAD, it took 5 to 10 minutes to load onto the main menu and you’d get kicked out of everything, I didn’t play much park but I’d get kicked from MYCAREER GAMES. The gameplay wasn’t terrible, the AI was terrible tho, double teams were hilarious, also the shot meter for this game was my favorite OAT

The sole reason for this game being overrated is the fanbase in the moment. 2k16 is regarded and is in my opinion the greatest 2k of all time, meaning the fanbase was eager for the next title to be even better which obviously didn’t come. Nostalgia got the best of people and 18 obviously makes people think the game prior is much better

People glorify it now but let’s not forget we all hated that game when it was out. The PG loading screen it took them all year to fix was bad. The archetype system was barebones so the builds were limited compared to 16 and meta builds became normal. My career was boring. And the servers took a step back from 16. Park after dark was garbage. And one place I disagree with you on is 2k20. 2k20 was slept on. The biggest issue I had with the game was the lies they told to start the year and how the game was fine at launch but people complained about being too hard to shoot on day one and then the patches screwed the game up and the game didn’t become better til about January of 2020

I have been saying this for years adn receieved so much backlash. 2k17 is definition of nostalgia clouding your mind. This game marked the beginning of 2K falling off (in terms of quality).

2k17 had one of the most fun parks ever after Christmas

Yeah this game was buggy asf but i still had tons of fun playing it

2k17 had the best myteam. It was the perfect balance of realism and fantasy.

Rather play 23 than 17 is crazy

I miss playing w regular and historic teams in Teamup sucks everyone just wants do glitch Myplayer mode with only 1 loadout that takes months to build plus $50+ to get started rather just pick up and play especially with all the Historic teams they added

Still the best 2k that I ever touched in my lifetime. Top 1

dang man....this is why i watch you....speak unnoticed facts

Im sorry but I think most people had more fun on 2k17 than 16-15. Even though 16 was better imo. The memories and park fun made the game the goat for me. I do agree it was flawed, I remember being able to shoot from half court and still get dunk animations. I had a 6'1 Sharp PG. Also the hair glitches, AI, random crashes, and the PG loading screen are very underlooked issues. And I think that was the start of 2k realizing they can drop unreleased games to the consumer.

When you talk about why everyone love 2k17 and you can’t come up with an answer, you failed to mention the one mode which made it get such a high rating: MyTeam. 2k17’s MyTeam mode was one of the best and it was like peak for a lot of content creators. Some of the OGs were heavily involved in the mode at the time like Cash, Troydan, and ShakeNBake while some the newbies like HTB and DBG started their content creating in 2K17. MyTeam was huge at the time and was very fun. That’s why 2K17 gets a highly overrated. Dom gave it a low score cuz he actually likes playing simulated basketball and 2K17 was starting to go away from that.

To be fair i loved 17 but 16 was the last great 2k and since then 2k and the entire country really hasnt been shit since that year

I miss 24/7 mode in nba 2K

Gameplay wise, I have the most fun and rage the least playing 2k17 vs any of the other ps4 2ks. You can actually read the defense and make the right decision to get open looks instead of animation hunting like in the other 2ks. Also you can time blocks and steals a lot better in 2k17 vs. having to spam steal and block in other years. 2k17 also has the most responsive controls of any 2k I’ve played. There’s almost no delay in the animations playing out and with the shot meter.

NO YOU DIDNT!!😭😭😭one of my faves, only cuz PG13 is on the cover and he’s my goat. Kinda biased I guess. But I love it and it’s one of the best in my opinion.

I don't think the archetype system was even mentioned once in this video, but man that new attribute system was so disappointing. You had rim protectors and Lockdowns making jumpers like they were DeRozen and Steph Curry. 2k failed to balanced archetypes in this game and the attributes were so limiting. Also, Kobe Bryant was not on the active roster. This was the first 2k game after he retired in the 2016 season.

2k17 was so great my park was so fun my career was actually good and not boring at all the story was good and rep system was good parks may have been the same but ngl they looked better in 17 u were able to upgrade ur court if u got a text from Jordan u had a unique thing in every park 1v 1v1 court in rough riders sunset has the fours court and the old town I honestly forgot but the parks even tho they were the same affiliations they had looked different from what they looked in 2k16 rough riders was underground somewhere in like a train area , sunset they added a fish tank or shark tank , old town was a amusement park , rep reward were good , no battle pass , it was smooth to dribble or shoot it was genuinely a great game wasn’t a disappointment at all it lived up after 16 I mean you can say the servers are bad but that’s games in general payday 3 servers were down for three days

2K shifted the focus to online gaming because nobody played offline game modes… Nobody buys NBA2K and says on launch day “Oh I can’t wait to play against the AI” or “I can’t wait to see what my career cutscenes they have waiting for me” No people want to play quick match online people want to play my team and the park that’s why 2K shifted their focus towards online gameplay

For a 2k game it was definitely good.

16 was so good I would play like 15-20 franchise regular season game but 17 I didn't even what to play a casual game with friends

Thank you for saying that 2k17 is overrated. The only good thing about this game was the park game mode.

I still play 2k17 24 is just garbage to me

still waiting for the fifa games retrospective but W video

Im sorry I disagree it wasn’t as good as 15 or 16 but these three games are just the holy trinity

The best 2ks were when the cpu was actually challenging but in a realistic way. You couldnt just sprint past the defense every play as if it was a track meet, they didnt overly double super early in the game to the point where your best player has 12+ assists by the end of the first quarter. Back in like 2k14 and before, offline game modes eere actually fun. Doing a franchise mode, gm mode, all star weekend, the blacktop having games of 21, 1v1 up to 5v5 allowing you to choose full or half court, 2k12 having team usa 1992, 2012 teams along wirh international teams, i can keep going. Mycareer/myplayer you didnt have to oay to be elite. And the nba games within that mode were fun and difficult but again not in a super cheating way. I remember it being a challenge to get 50+ points against some teams when now a days you basically start out getting 40+ if you pay to upgrade your player taking away the progression aspect of seeing your player to from being ok to being a demigod. Oh yeah you could make all around players that were tall, fast athletic without habdicaps allowing full control of your player design. They had to asd in a ton of badges to kinda go back to how it was with 6'9+ guard like builds.

Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree with you. I believe that this game is probably one of the best they ever made. It is generally regarded by many as one of the top NBA 2ks ever, and for good reason. Honorable mention to '11 and '16 as well. 23 was also pretty good aside from the stripped down presentation. Metacritic ranks the PS4 version of NBA 2k17 as the 3rd best NBA 2k game ever with a score of 90. '17 was actually the last good NBA 2k game prior to 23. They still used the same motion system as '16 and before. It also had an awesome my career mode. '16's career mode was slightly better, but you can't go wrong with '17. 17 was fantastic, they actually played defense, although sometimes the brick wall defenders were a bit much, but I would prefer better defense than the game being too easy. '17 also had the best presentation of any NBA 2k game ever made, yeah I mean ever! They have rotating commentators each and every game, 2 different courtside announcers, and the most commentary lines ever recorded for a 2k game. This is the game where the devs actually went around to all the NBA arenas and recorded the sounds of each and every NBA arena and incorporated them into the game. That's innovation for you. And if that wasn't enough, they actually showed interviews with players during the game. NBA 2K17 was like watching an actual NBA broadcast on TNT. They still had the pregame show with Kenny Smith, Shaq, and Ernie Johnson, and also a halftime show and postgame show. This game also was the last one where when a player got injured on the court, you could see it, and the player would stay down. NBA 2K17 was the most complete game they ever made, which is why is it so highly regarded. Was the gameplay perfect? No, but it was much better than 18-21. This game is so good, many people are still playing it today with updated rosters rather than current gen NBA 2K. I love your videos, but can't get behind the hate for '17.

You should do a retrospective on NBA 2k playgrounds

Review ncaa football 10. It’s relatively cheap and super fun. Great video here though!

Due to the 2k games after 2k17 it’s the best by far!

So this is why I have fond memories of winning games in MyGM 2K17 compared to the difficult times in 2K24