"Underrated" is the most overrated word in existence.

watch lindor turn his season around and hit 40 homers while batting like .290 or something, after you called him out, man baseball is weird

Thank God someone finally said it. “Francisco Lindor is the most underrated player in baseball” has been one of the most annoying narratives the last few years. Right up there with “Tim Anderson is actually an amazing person and an amazing teammate who’s just misunderstood because he flips his bat and calls himself Jackie Robinson”. Right up to the point where J-Ram KO-d him and all of a sudden we could all agree that TA is a douchebag diva and “Down goes Anderson!” was therapeutic for all of us.

If he can put up 4+ more seasons at his rates he's probably a HOFer... and that's coming from a Braves fan. He's 30yr old and already has 40+WAR...

It's a Mets problem, not a Lindor problem. Look at Alonso and McNeil this season.. I'm a lifetime Mets fan, the whole team is suffering thus far this season...

idk… 30/30 with 100 rbis and gold glove defense sounds pretty good to me

As a Mets fan I can admit that sometimes I'm disappointed by some of his numbers, particularly his batting average and OPS. I love that he plays every day for sure, but I'm just not sure what to think of him anymore.

As a die hard Mets fan, I love Lindor but he doesn’t hit like someone who’s making $300+ mil. Been saying that even in his great 2022-23 seasons. One of the best defenders in the sport and a good baserunner, but you gotta do more than a barely .800 OPS when you’re getting paid like he is. Really hoping he turns it around this year

Secret to let everyone in on: No single MLB player is worth a $300 million contract.

Ive been saying overrated for years. Him and vladdy are 1 & 2 for most overrated players

He’s not overrated lindor has had a slow start but dude finished top ten in mvp voting last two years if that’s overrated than every player in baseball is to

Fransisco Lindor is; a nice guy and a good player with an excellent glove but inconsistent with the bat. Overrated? no but overpaid for sure. A Mets fan here.

As a Mets fan, I agree. His name and contract carry more weight than his production.

he's a fantastic player. in fact he is on track for a HOF career. the disappointment comes from his juiced ball seasons and the expectation that he was going to be a 40+ HR hitter when he entered his prime.

Jazz Chisholm is the most overrated player in baseball

May 5th 2024 and Francisco Lindor is hitting .193 with an OPS of .616. He's a well below average offensive player at this point.

Mets fan and i like Lindor much, but we are paying him just for gold defense and daily playing. He's not hitting and def. has NOT hit nearly worth the 34 mil

I’ve been a Mets fan for my whole life and watched a bunch of baseball and lindor has never shown me that he is worth his contract just watching him is sort of painful that we payed 341 million dollars for him

Hi, ItalkStudios I’m a big fan and I love your videos. I was wondering if your next video could be on how umpires have been sensitive and more thin skinned when it comes to players and coaches complaining about calls and just the umpires looking to eject coaches and players

Also lindor should just stick to making chocolate

I think it’s pretty hard to say Lindor is underperforming to his contract, since (while massive) it is inflated by his position. When comparing Lindor to the other players in his 300m pay range that you listed (Judge, Harper, Betts, Machado), he does get dwarfed by most of them purely offensively, but he also provides the most value at the toughest defensive position in baseball. There’s no other SS on that list, and the other SS’s who got paid somewhat recently (Bogaerts, Correa, Seager) get paid in the same range. Personally, if I had to choose from those 4 SS’s to get my every day guy, I’m probably taking Lindor as he’s the most reliable health-wise and gives you elite defense with 30-30 potential every year. SS is a tough market and the price tag will always be steep. Lindor will be a HOF player with 5 more good seasons, and I think that warrants him being paid with the elite SS in the game.

Diggin the new content format bro. Great essay

Look at his contract. Dude isnt producing on that level.

he plays every day. as a mets fan i love that. he will not miss a game. even the birth of his child last season, and this season when he was sick. the guy still came and played before the game was over. he just wont ever take a break. he loves baseball.

Not overrated or underrated but overpaid 100%

Thank god, he is overpaid and has been since he’s gotten to the Mets, he hasn’t been this crazy top 3 in shortstops other than his defense, great tools, solid bat. But not deserving of a 34 mil dollar contract

I think his contract makes him overrated. Is he actually worth 341M?

Don't forget in the trade the Mets gave up Ahmed Rosario and Andres Jimenez who have been pretty good players

“Good defender” - bro is a gold glove defender who is a above average hitter

It's about time I see something about this. Seeing all of these posts saying that he's better than Trea Turner were driving me insane.

He was actually starting to decline in Cleveland. And he is the absolute worst player ive ever seen hitting in clutch situation and late and games.

Let me grab some popcorn. This is going to good.

As a big time Lindor fan and him being my favorite player, and as of rn I don’t think he’s overrrated. But he’s been on a huge slump this season.

As a mariner fan I feel the same way about j-rod. I'd trade him any day of the week for Bobby Witt or elly

He’s always been a good player. He’s a typical .270-.280 30+ 90-100 RBI player. He’s been consistent with that minus one year.

You spelled Manny Machado and Fernando tatis wrong bro

Piping hot n fresh Heath Ledger Joker reference. I don't think anyone has ever mentioned that character on the internet before.

I'm a die hard Indians/Guardians fan... Back when the rumors of trading Lindor were swirling I was totally okay with sending him out of town knowing the big contract he'd be demanding (and as long as we got some controllable players in return). I knew he wouldn't blossom into a player he'd never been up until that point and any big contract would doom making any other signings/extensions.

Thank you - a lot of people insist on saying Lindor is "one of the best shortstops" and point to whichever advanced statistic suits their argument, but as a Mets fan, we all see him go through some pretty bad slumps when the team needs him the most. Even last year, he finished strong but was hitting around .220 through June when they called it a season and started to rebuild. His Cleveland numbers were better than as a Met, but his power was inflated by the juiced ball, and the AL Central in the late 2010s was weak as hell. I still remember him not running out a ground ball during the first month of his new contract and getting booed, thinking "We should have made him prove he's worth the money for a year instead of just handing it out before he's shown anything as a Met." I wish the best for Lindor but he's inconsistent as hell and hasn't proved he's worth the money, or being seen as the "face of the franchise." He reminds me of Carlos Beltran in a lot of ways, although Beltran missed more time and was a bit better when he played.

Let’s just give credit to how fire italks edits are 🔥🔥

Braves fan here. All I can say is I'm glad we have the best GM. Look at our ss and the contract 2 or 3 mil a year for Arcia

A great player signed to the Mets who maintains their numbers, is a win. We don’t expect players to get better when they Met. He’s definitely an over achiever, within the context of playing in Queens. But yeah we should trade him now before we get stuck with an aging player who loses any more value.

Bro FINALLY people are coming around to this. I have been saying this for literally like 5 years.

AS a Mets fan I mostly agree with everything you said. It’s just hard to digest. I honestly think no player is worth over 30 million per year. Arguably the best hockey player on the planet, Connor McDavid doesn’t even make $15 million per year. NHL salary cap restrains over spending. Kind of sad when you see a player like Lindor, not the best player in the world making more than double.

Lindor far from overrated

This isn’t Jazz Chisholm 😭

Lindor is just overpaid. Hes a top 5 SS but that contract is an albatross.

He was struggling around this point last year (albeit not as badly) before he turned it around in the second half. There's still some hope for a Lindor comeback. Right now he is definitely bad, nothing underrated about him.

Lindor can swing it, he’s got a lot of pop. He hit a few balls on the screws in the 4 game home/away Phillies series but they were right at guys. I get the feeling he’s free swinging a lot. Ambushing first pitch fastball, but it’s up in the zone and he pops it up. Etc.

Bro I get saying he was overrated during the first 3 weeks of the season when he was batting like .079 but he’s turned it around and is completely solid.

I made an edit with the video you got your clips from

It’s a reason why I don’t like war as a stat values defense far too much Kyle Sharber and Javy Baez had the same war last year

Bold for using Marks clip in your video for him mlb rankings

Worst thing that happened to Lindor is playing for the Mets

Man y’all don’t get it he’s produced an fWAR of 12 combined in 2022-23 which is the 4th best amongst position players behind only Judge Betts and Freeman. His individual offensive numbers may not jump out like there’s does but his base running and defense combined with his offensive value make him one of the best players in baseball.

Lindor is an incredible player and it’s still early in the season, he has more eyes on him because he plays in NY. I’m a Mets fan and I love Lindor if he had a team that could actually hit consistently around him he would shine guaranteed

Sandy Alderson came out of retirement on the behest of Cohen for one year to get things started. then for whatever reason he decided to sign Lindor, before he ever played as a Met, before Lindor's walk year started. That year he also signed James McCann $80mil who the Mets are still paying for. Alderson could make elite pitching staffs (Oakland previously), he drafted well, traded pretty well, but he was sorta clueless with position player signings. Curtis Granderson was initially supposed to go 3-4 with Wright, the Wright contract didn't work out but that was more an injury fluke, and Cespedes MIA, but then there was Cuddyer for 2 years even though he rejected the Rockies' qualifying offer. There're more i can't think of atm. I think as his last hurrah for his legacy he wanted to imitate the Mookie Betts signing, in interviews he used big words all the time for no real reason, think he wanted to be perceived as smarter than he was. Anyway, watching this video i can see that Lindor's swing with the Indians was much more level than it is now. I don't think he's gonna get any better, amount of times i've seen him K on 3 pitches batting left handed, swinging over top an inside breaking ball, it's like he's lost. Problem with the contract is also the ego, he is the worst 3-hole hitter in baseball. Man should be batting 7th or 8th.

He's overpaid, and that's what makes him look overrated. Most teams would love to have him on their team for a more reasonable price.

Lindor has never stood out to me. I always thought he was a good player, but never thought he was great. Sure he’s won a pair of Gold Gloves, some Silver Sluggers and was a 30-30 member last year. But you put that stuff to the side and look more closely at his numbers, they just don’t jump off the page enough.

Manny Machado (50 WAR) 31 years Nolan Arenado (49 WAR) 33y Francisco Lindor (48 WAR) 30y Bryce Harper (47 WAR) 31y Aaron Judge (42 WAR) 32y not saying Lindor is worth his contract but if the other guys are future hall of famers... The extremly overated one on the mets is Pete Alonso. Wanting a contract close to Freeman or Harper.

As a Mets fan I think he’s overrated he should be hitting 6th not 3 . He makes a lot of week contact doesn’t strike out a lot but pulls to much . Great Glove .

Frankie was the best shortstop in Cleveland but he has been overrated in New York

I agree. Mets fan here since birth and the Mets suckkkkk. No getting around it. Such a shame

That Girrafeneckmarc clip at the beggining

If he is overrated can the Indians have Mr. Smile back while the Mets cover his salary? They can get carasco but not giminez.

I love content the man

Funny you say that his numbers with the Mets are about the same as with the Guardians. That’s highly inaccurate.

I believe he's getting his due respect. But, then again, my team has Javier Baez! Avila overrated him by about 130 million 😅 Keep at it, Francisco!

During the contract year, you put in all of the work to get paid the big bucks. Then once you're paid you just ride the lazy river(Hopefully that's not the case, but it sure seems like it! This is why I'm against these monster contracts.

Gunnar Henderson is the best short stop in baseball.

The thing about Lindor's stats in 2023 is that he ended the year with very good stats, especially from a slugging stand point. But that hides the fact that Lindor didn't heat up until after the Mets gave up on the 2023 season. His batting average was .211 as late as June 17th. He didn't raise his batting average above .240 until August 5th. In that context, his current 2024 makes a lot more sense and yes, it makes him way overrated. In general, the Mets have a huge problem with an overrated core. Lindor, Alonso, McNeil, Marte, and Nimmo are paid like A-levels All-Stars even though they perform like role players. If anyone is wonder why the Mets fanbase is asking Steven Cohen on Twitter to blow it up even though the team is playing borderline .500 baseball, this is why. Everything else about the Mets this year has turned out great. The Pitching is excellent. The bench is contributing more than expected. But the stars that are supposed to carry the team's offense have been some of the least productive players, especially in clutch situations. It's no exaggeration that if Lindor, Alonso, McNeil, Marte, and Nimmo were hitting like it's 2022, the Mets would be neck and neck with the Braves this year. With a huge era defining off season coming up in 2025 for us, the Mets to consider if selling these guys is better for the team long term.

If we shaved 9 mil off his contract I think that would be spot on

Seeing his drop off this season hurts. He's a great guy.

With Lindor's contract, as with others who signed long term contracts. it's not the money, it's the length of term. The 35 or 40 million dollars a year is not obscene, but when you look at the total sum, it is absolutely disgusting.

so Lindor is not a great player ? hard disagree

The biggest problem is that everyone is acting like it's ~2010 and that the expected value per WAR is still around $6 million. Everyone saying that Lindor isn't playing like a guy worth $30 million a year is actually correct, in that his value has actually been closer to $45-50 million a year so far with the Mets. $30-35 million is no longer an insane amount of money for a baseball player; you don't need to be a generational talent on the level of Trout to make that kind of money (and to be fair to Lindor, he's put up nearly 50 WAR in his career, so realistically he's on track for a HoF career). If we're being totally fair to Lindor and comparing him to other $300+ million players, your list was: Otani: not really fair, but he hasn't had a season as a position player to match Lindor's best. Lindor has him beat in career WAR by over 20 wins, assuming you don't look at Otani's pitching

He will be the hitter when the Mets are out of contention cuz he ain’t clutch!

An excellent breakdown by iTalk.....

Here is the thing about contracts. You guys look at contracts then look at stats and then say, oh wow overpaid, or that it doesn't make any sense, etc. you forget that mlb is a business, and major league teams are a business. but you don't account for the player popularity, jersey sales, etc. Lindor prob makes over 25-50 million in jersey sales alone for the team. a kids lindor jersey sells for 125 and adult sells for 200. the city connects just dropped as well. my son has like 6 lindor jerseys. home blue, home black home whites, city connect, etc.

The Mets are in dire need of a new batting coach.

I think the issue is him having cheesecakes with P diddy honestly

the thing about lindor is that hes trying to do more then he can do, instead of pushing himself to do more he should just play his game and be the leader that he can be.

Yeah as a Mets fan i've seen enough of Lindor playing. His defense has gotten worse. He misses balls that an average SS can catch. He's not turning double plays like he use to. He can't hit ace pitching or even 2,3, 4 pitching. He can only hit 4, 5 level pitching. Maybe triple AAA. He's also not clutch. The amount of ppl he's left of base is disturbing. If he was more of a leader. If he is? i don't see it. He's no Derek Jeter or David Wright

Based on current contracts, it's Mike Trout, and not even close.

As a big Mets fan I’ll say that Lindor is the most overpaid player in the sport. The contract is a DISASTER. He’s the 8th highest paid everyday player in MLB. I Wouldn’t even put him in the Top 40. He’s a good player … but when you watch him every day you realize he has no clutch in him. ZERO. With the game on the line he’s the last guy I want at the plate. He’s been here 3+ years and I can count the big hits he’s had on one hand. I WISH we could find a sucker to take him off our hands.

For the last two years his offense was worth what he's been paid for playing a premium position at a premium level. Only this year so far has been disappointing.

I mean he was underrated last year and has hit into bad luck this year. His fielding took a hit this year and the issue is Alonso and McNeil. I don’t think he’s overrated or underrated.

One thing we can agree on is that he is better than the shortstop taken after him in 2011

Well said. He’s a solid MLB player, but he should be great considering how much he demanded. He’s not innocent in our judgements.

Big contracts always end up looking bad at some point it's just crazy how quickly lindors has turned into a bad contract. Sorry to tell people but he's not even a top 5 short stop at this point

I remember when they would say lindor and Addison Russel and dansby Swanson were better then Corey seager COMEDY LOL

Also thanks for making this video….no one in the NY media will say anything of this for some reason and it’s BullShit!

Damn two months into a season and a player is already washed up. That's dumb.

He needs to reduce strikeouts and shorten swing with two strikes

We smoking ROCK if you have any doubts about Machado being in the HOF. If Adrian Beltre got in then machado is getting in.

Think he just rated goes thru bad dry spells both at the plate and in the field but can also go on tears a lot like albies

Remember when everyone said Bryce Harper was the most overrated player in baseball for like 3 years? Lol

You certainly can be a top player and underrated

Corey Seager is a Hall Of Famer that’s not up in the air.

The best short stop in baseball is crazy as fuck