Most of women’s history definitely boils down to: damned if you do, damned if you don’t! Glad you enjoyed the video 😊

Keep your opinion to yourself with your terminology.

Curious. The first critical\ judgemental comment is a quote of a female member of the court.

Apparently women are dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t

@@jeraldbaxter3532 do you think women don't routinely get taught, perpetuate, and pass on misogyny?

How many children did she actually have?

@@SpiritGirlSFShe wasn’t supposed to have any children… officially. She never married. Her father, King Henry VIII had her mother, Anne Boleyn executed on false charges. Elizabeth was thought safer - due to people who wanted her crown and the power a husband had over his wife, back then. There are rumors of her having a child with a secret lover who was a favorite of hers. It’s interesting that the favorite, Robert Dudley was married to Amy Robsart Dudley at the time, but she died in a very suspicious way. She was home alone, without any of her usual servants when she suffered a fall down stairs. She died but the way she fell and her injuries didn’t match up. It’s still unclear if she was murdered, by her husband or someone hired by him and maybe even Queen Elizabeth was involved. As a widow, Robert Dudley would have been free to marry Elizabeth. However, the scandal caused by Amy’s fall to death was so serious that there was no way for Elizabeth to be able to marry such a man as Robert Dudley. It would have turned people against her and endangered her life and her crown. There is a certain portrait of her that is thought to actually depict her pregnant, with symbolism and allegory. All paintings of the era used secret messages that people would understand, each flower stood for something different from love to grief or innocence and there were symbols in everything in the painting. Nothing in a painting like that is ever accidental or meaningless. Everything in it is there for a purpose, including the way the subject is posed and portrayed and what they are wearing. The painting is one of the only pieces of evidence of a pregnancy happening, but it’s debatable bc it can be interpreted in different ways. It can be said that she is the mother of the country and the “baby” is her country and her subjects. Many scholars suspect she did have a baby out of wedlock and it was adopted and raised by a noble family but, the official history says she never had any children. Her 45 year reign is considered one of the very best in English history and is known as “The Golden Age”.

​@@SpiritGirlSF she didn't have any. She was the queen, her ladies in waiting were around her at all times. The Catholics would have jumped on her "immorality" in a nanosecond, and move to have her taken off the thrown.

@cap4life1 your comment is off the wall and not at all based in historical fact. Elizabeth I did not wear farthingale to cover up pregnancy, but because she could. She was rich and she was queen. Her power was unmatched in early modern times.

@roodbennett I think you misunderstood what they said. They didn't say she wore it to cover up a pregnancy, but as a show of her ability to do so if, when, and with whom she had chosen to. Her grandiose style was both very powerful and exaggerated, showcasing her feminity, height, wealth, and presence.

You mean like the Mother Ginger scene in The Nutcracker?

@@cathleenc6943 or also in “A Christmas Carol”

Actually in my family, the tale is some men hide in the skirts to get out of being dragged off to fight in the civil war.

Especially with men today who still want to exert their entitlement over women's bodies by trying to surgically alter themselves to look like us.

It also keeps your legs cool, particularly in hot regions!

Don't forget the bustle! Same idea.

Yes there’s definitely some elements of pettiness there! Although generally it was accepted that a king would marry a foreign princess at this time to cement alliances.

@sarahabendall well of course, but that doesn't mean that the local ladies (and their parents maybe) didn't get butthurt enough to have a scathing tongue when she showed up. Or the general "we're better than you" attitude that many groups can have with foreigners might have caused wagging tongues as well. And also there is the general jealousy and backbiting that arises as a natural result of the young women of that era being used as bargaining chips. Everything I've read about the royal courts of those eras makes it seem like they were filled mostly with social climbers with little to no consciences.

100%

​@sarahabendall you should NEVER apply today's standards and beliefs on people hundreds of years older than the current society. Historians and archeologists agree to slap a current IDEALOGY on to past groups DISTORTS REAL HISTORY.

Oh that’s wonderful! I’m so glad you enjoyed it! 😊

Ooh I’ll have to check this out!

There are different types of farthingale. The early one was a cone shape - "Spanish" farthingale (late 15th century in Spain, and from 1540s in England and a little earlier in France). 1580s onwards, the "French" farthingale which does have a sort of "coffee table" look. This continued into the early 17th century and was seen in France and England. And then we have this style which is almost pannier style which is seen in Spain in the mid 17th century. Odd that France get upset at with this fashion as they were the ones who had the early "wheel" or "coffee table" style of farthingale! And of course, France then have the huge panniers in the 18th century. And we have Crinoline in the 19th century.

Thanks so much! Happy to have you here 😊

Not if they wanted to live and keep all their limbs.

Turner syndrome sufferers are usually sterile because they cannot produce viable ova.

While Katherine wore it when she first arrived but she quickly changed into English fashions. It’s not until the 1540s that we start to see it regularly in English wardrobes 😊

Oh for god’s sakes. I guess you schooled her, Karen.

​@@janlafournaise6505 if you think that someone who is providing other people knowledge is being a Karen, then u r a d*mb*ss!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Good one.

Yeah,cause you and the other people in the comment section love to blame men its annoying frankly,just stop stick to the subject.Iam a 16yr old girl and iam fed up with it ,i love historical fashion.But,i hate modern anachronisms.

​@@jahirareyes1102calm down, pick me

@@jahirareyes1102 Oh, honey you have so much to learn.

@@janlafournaise6505 Don't talk down like that to me,i think while of course,like every person i know not everything especially since iam still new but, i know quite alot for my age infact that is indeed at least what many people have come to tell me,adults and my own friends my age,,unless they are lying of course. Also,for your information I'm just getting my experience now. Doesn't mean I can't have my own opinions too.

@@jahirareyes1102 You don’t have the lived experience to being “talking down” to others who others who have. You might know quite a lot for your age but you are right, you are quite new and opinions are all that you have at this stage.

Thanks for your comment! You are to totally correct - my apologies. I got my Juana/Joana queens of Castile mixed up. I can’t edit the video, but I’ll pop a correction in the information box!

Lose robes and they stayed in confinement until they delivered.

@@codename495 Nope. They wore the fashionable gowns with farthingales. There are a few paintings where its VERY obvious that the lady is pregnant (she is really showing it off) but the stomacher isn't flat and down as the growing belly is pushing it up...not the farthingale. The book The Tudor Child by Ninya Mikhaila shows in photos how full fashionable 1590s wheel farthingale can be worn whilst 6 months pregnant and when not pregnant.