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The Mother of All IHOP-KC Casualties

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Күн бұрын

Six personal stories in the trail of destruction left by Mike Bickle told by a woman who has been a Christian in Kansas City for over 30 years and knows many other believers there.
Narrated report from 2011. If you prefer to read the stories, the URL is here:
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Donald
Candace
Marion
Anne
Catherine
Solomon
Stories include divorce, atheism, and psychosis.
"IHOP has produced quite a legacy. Many couples are no longer together. Many. So many. Many children who were raised going there now want nothing to do with Jesus or His Church. There is a trail of destruction in Kansas City of disaffected and discouraged youth who went to IHOP."

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@susannablessings5773
@susannablessings5773 7 ай бұрын
Bickle taught The song of Solomon paradigm where a person can fall in love with Jesus as her bridegroom and live a fasted and believe God doesn't want you to get married because you're married to Jesus. I listen to one of the worship leaders from IHOPKC stand up and give her testimony and she actually said she has no idea how her life has ended up so empty and that she thought she was doing the right thing by not getting married even though she had had many proposals. I have contemplated whether or not this is spiritual abuse because this particular worship leader came to IHOP KC when she was very young enter music is highly anointed. She was given an apartment to live in live in right on the IHOPKC property. She's getting older now and wonders if it's all been God's plan.
@paula100762
@paula100762 7 ай бұрын
Who is it? Sounds like it is "M.E."
@GraceFilledDaisies
@GraceFilledDaisies 7 ай бұрын
I heard the same from a sermon Misty Edwards gave. It's very sad to have given your life to a false doctrine led by a false prophet and it was all wrong.😢
@susannablessings5773
@susannablessings5773 7 ай бұрын
Will she speak up?
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 ай бұрын
@@paula100762 Whoever it is they are telling the truth.
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 ай бұрын
@@susannablessings5773 She just did.
@user-cz6do6rx9i
@user-cz6do6rx9i 7 ай бұрын
1:50 Mike Bickle Was probably afraid of having competition with the ladies.
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 ай бұрын
That is true. I saw him flirt with the first worship leader that came with him from St. Louis, Betty B., all the time. I really thought he was attempting to seduce her. Once, they were joking around and he grabbed her sweat shirt and was pulling her to him as she resisted. I thought he was gonna pull her shirt off. This was at Kansas City Fellowship over at Fox Hill Office park. Bickle's brotherinlaw, Bob Scott was the second in command until Bob Jones arrived. Then is reall went to hell.
@oscarbone1000
@oscarbone1000 7 ай бұрын
Bickel did not want to competition, the young girls probably liked him as a pastor.Look who Bickel puts around him thats in charge, he wants no competition.
@guadalupeeg5034
@guadalupeeg5034 3 ай бұрын
MB did not want any competition!!
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 7 ай бұрын
At least two mentions of home schooling here… why? What’s the significance?
@jimorsheryl
@jimorsheryl 7 ай бұрын
Do you think when the LORD asks why we didn't do as He told us in His Word and we say that it is because of wrong teaching and false prophets, that will be an acceptable excuse?? Do you suppose He might ask us if we spent as much time studying the Word, worshipping and drawing close to Him and praying in the Spirit as we do watching television, following our favourite movie and sports stars, or cruising around on the Net, that we should have been deceived? According to Eph. 4 the fivefold are not the ones who do the work of ministry which is building up the body until we become fully mature, that is clearly what the believers are to be doing. Church is not supposed to be a spectator sport, we are to be the ones who build each other up, that is not the function of the pastor. According to 1 Cor.14 we ALL are supposed to play a part in our services, that is not the job of the pastor. Each one of us, before we come together are to have been in study and prayer so that each of us has something to share when we come together. If you study Eph 4 and 1 Cor. 14 it is clear the thing we call church is totally upside down and WE are the ones to blame not some false pastor or teacher. Clearly if WE were doing our job and playing our part, a false prophet wouldn't last through one meeting. No, blaming the bad teacher or pastor or prophet is not going to excuse a lazy, lukewarm body of believers who are far more to blame than the pulpit person. The letter to the Laodicean church could be carbon copied and delivered to the church in the USA today. There is a word from the LORD and that word is REPENT. WE are the problem for not spending enough time doing as the LORD told us, for if we had, false teachers and prophets would be recognized the first time they opened their mouth. How can anyone claim to be Christian for years and years and years and not be able to tell the real from the counterfeit?? Think about it.
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 ай бұрын
You are deceived. You can't get any closer to God than you are at this very moment and you can do nothing to make yourself a better Christian than you are at this very moment. But do waste your time trying to work your way to heaven. Good luck, you're gonna need it.
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын
@@dashlamb9318 😳
@grannyinthesticks
@grannyinthesticks 7 ай бұрын
Awful stories. Could we find tragic stories in other churches in KC or other cities, mainline denominations, etc? Just wondering.
7 ай бұрын
Yes, because all churches are fraudulent cults….
@borneyraybergantine2124
@borneyraybergantine2124 7 ай бұрын
Red Bridge Baptist has been a healthy holy happy church for 40 years! 1 mile from the Prayer Room..and 2 miles from Forerunner. But RBBC has balance between evangelism and loving local church discipline. The key is the Pastors and Deacons are examples of the faith. Not just endowed with the GIFTS of the Holy Spirit but whose lives bear the character of Christ in the FRUIT of the Spirit.
@grannyinthesticks
@grannyinthesticks 7 ай бұрын
@@borneyraybergantine2124 I'm happy to hear this. I was just wondering about others in various denominations that HAVE had these kinds of issues. I believe it's from the leadership, for sure, whether the people believe in operating in the gifts or not. Definitely need true men after God's own heart who are examples of the faith and adhere to and teach sound doctrine. I'm aware of Red Bridge but never knew of anyone from there, so thank you! I did go see the play about C.S. Lewis there years ago. ;)
@jess4yah447
@jess4yah447 7 ай бұрын
How about Wes Martin? Did he teach or support these unbiblical teachings?
@jenk.6196
@jenk.6196 7 ай бұрын
The AI is a Christian. Wonders never cease.
@dashlamb9318
@dashlamb9318 7 ай бұрын
Yes, and if we were living in 1900 you'd be saying, "those cars won't ever replace a good horse and buggy. The Lord told me so."
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
@user-bk3wo9ib4h Ай бұрын
@@dashlamb9318 😳
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