The Mutant Menace Precon Upgrade ☢️ | The Wise Mothman | Fallout

The Mutant Menace Precon Upgrade ☢️ | The Wise Mothman | Fallout | EDH Discussion

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The Mutant Menace decklist is finally out and I wanted to go over the best upgrades and directions to take the deck!
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Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction
2:10 - The Zombie Theme
4:40 - More Card Draw
6:03 - Ramping Hard
8:18 - Reanimation Is Key
10:00 - Manipulating Your Rad
11:17 - Concluding Thoughts
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@alexanderibarra6386 4 ай бұрын

Hmm thatmillguy doing a mill precon upgrades? Yes, this checks out.

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Yeeeee

@Aerix 4 ай бұрын

As stated in many other videos, mesmeric orb is THE staple for this commander no matter what direction you plan to go with mothman. Each untap is a separate triger of mill, so each untap has a potential to be another +1/+1 counter wherever you want it.

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Yep, Mesmeri Orb is an easy include

@TripppAU 4 ай бұрын

It went from like 5 bucks to over 40AUD cause of Mothman

@alexmarinescu1506 2 ай бұрын

This is the first video on The Wise Mothman that takes a different approach than everybody else and where I see some diversified card suggestions. Good work!

@TheTresman 3 ай бұрын

I got 3 of the 4 commander decks, and mothman is by far my favorite

@user-zh6si8ox1b 4 ай бұрын

I did buy this deck because the different paths you can take when building it: mass milling + control, mutant/zombie theme, 1/1 tokens and go wide, more proliferate for rad counters aiming to make opponents lose life, small milling but continuous for big creatures, self-mill and reanimate... Even poison + proliferate off win-con with the radstorm can work because we can have so much mana with green to make a gigachad turn with Radstorm... Etc

@williammartin172 4 ай бұрын

Can't wait to pull my horror mill deck apart to upgrade this, so excited

@khub5660 4 ай бұрын

A couple of misses are cards like Regrowth and Noxious Revival to "buy back" cards that you milled over. Compost is also a good include, as most people black so you're constantly refilling your hand. Zellix is also great as an alternate Undead Alchemist. Altar of the Brood goes hard with Alchemist and Zellix too

@richards9730 4 ай бұрын

See, I threw Voidwing Hybrid in because it has natural recursion and can slap a poison counter on enemies. Put in w/ Yawgmoth, Dakmor, Bone Miser, and Venser and you can infinitely proliferate. Tekuthal and Crawler also combo off w/ Yawgmoth and Voidwing. If someone has poison, they’re dead. If they have Rad, they’re milled out and dead. It’s still solid when you can’t infinite with a piece missing but can just prolif a good amount with mindcrank. Really love how this deck expanded mill options!

@KingUmaPBK 4 ай бұрын

i went with the storm/rad manipulation line of play with mothman

@bigtrevor30 4 ай бұрын

I'm trying duplicate cards in mothman like spark double and sakashima. Danny pink for card draw

@paulkelemen4199 4 ай бұрын

Awesome video! Do you have a decklist you've put together to share?

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Pretty much made this video before heading on to an extended vacation so no solid list yet, but it will come down soon :)

@Inti.G.Olivares 4 ай бұрын

The ComedIan just made a cEDH for the legendary artifact creature from that deck, it can rad combo all the opponents; a must check to mill everybody in commander!

@michelefumagalli81 4 ай бұрын

What are your thoughs about dredge stuff like golgari grave troll? Also you can add cephalid illusionist if we want to fully mill yourself (or give the illusionist to somebody and mill them). And finally what do you think about stuff like cowardice? It tranforms your moth boy into direct removal

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Dredge stuff might be better suited for a deck like Muldrotha that wants it sgraveyard whereas Mothman incidentally can use it for value Cowardice on the other hand is sweeeet and didn't even think of that card, definitely will be adding it

@TheMenis210 Ай бұрын

Did you ever get that deck list together? I would love to see so I can order those cards lol

@FreeAtlas. 4 ай бұрын

I’m helping my buddy build this up and one thing I noticed this deck lacks TREMENDOUSLY is removal. I love the idea of the zombie sub-theme but I think this deck needs some protections in counter or something like heroic intervention and a handful of removal since you can only mill so much and your opponents are still going to be playing their creatures

@HaleCommissar 4 ай бұрын

One piece that works well for the grindy late game can be Virtue of Persistence, i've found the early game ability to kill key enabler creatures like academy manufactor or a cheap commander with its adventure cost is super worth it, and it then means that later down the line when people have milled and you've also probably lost stuff to board wipes it means you can potentially put down the enchantment to start out valuing people down the line

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Would you incorporate more wipes or single target?

@robertwilliams8454 4 ай бұрын

Saw only one mention of Crucible of worlds on the comments, also isn't it obvious that doubling season world help the proliferate go wide tokens part of the deck?

@valhallaspectre 4 ай бұрын

I’ve been contemplating a commander like Yarok, the Desecrated for years. Do you think there’s a way to incorporate Landfall with Yarok into this deck? I’m thinking cards like Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, Evolution Sage, Tato Farmer, etc to fuel the build.

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

I've never been too attuned to land based strats in EDH so I wouldn't be the best to ask haha

@valhallaspectre 3 ай бұрын

@@ThatMillGuyShaf I figure with Crabs triggering on Landfall, and some of the creatures that give additional land drop potential and card draw (Aesi), tokens (Avenger of Zendikar), life (Courser of Kruphix), proliferate (Evolution Sage), etc. You’d still end up leaning on stuff like Altar of Dementia with the token generators, but I feel like a Sultai mill with Landfall subtheme could get brutal.

@jerryregan9110 4 ай бұрын

I think Hancock's buff to other mutants only happens once if I read the rule correctly. Could be wrong

@ArtSolid-xu2fn 4 ай бұрын

Mutant commander buffs X targets 1 each 1/1s X being non land. This happens on each players turn by any mill mechanic

@c.grasshopper6522 4 ай бұрын

I love That fuckin Mothman!!! Probably never buy a precon that fast as this one!!

@benturtl9076 3 ай бұрын

Generous patron is a card draw beast with mothman

@THOMAS31H 4 ай бұрын

While i know you can't go over every card, i think Muldrotha is such a slam dunk in this deck!

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Yep, briefly mentioned the card in my video previously, a must play in this one

@mtgmemer 4 ай бұрын

Decklist decklist decklist ❤😮‍💨👌

@Vanadras 4 ай бұрын

Would Crucible of Worlds or the new Undergrowth Recon be worth it for your self milled lands?

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

There's value in this yes! You definitely want to combo it with cards that let you play multiple lands tho, then you can abuse Wasteland Shenanigans

@tehkuzio 4 ай бұрын

What about bloodchief asencion ?

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

That's an option too, just didn't mention EVERY card haha

@thomaside1945 4 ай бұрын

What is everyone using for rad counters

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Like token wise?

@thomaside1945 4 ай бұрын

@@ThatMillGuyShaf yeah they get out of hand when you’re playing in a group of four people

@TheKaosKilla16 4 ай бұрын

2D10's. Maybe a percentile and a D10.

@kennyboi01 4 ай бұрын

The master is def stronger imo but great vid!

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

How would you build the master in this case?

@kennyboi01 4 ай бұрын

@ThatMillGuyShaf self mill into playing your own combo pieces. Def common lines like Thassas demonic consultation. But def combo self mill id say hes a viable cedh commander

@ThePirateCommander 4 ай бұрын

Nexus of Fate has potential to go infinite in the late game.

@OpenBiolabsGuy 3 ай бұрын

I’m going to suggest three cards to take out: the Talismans! I don’t know why everyone wants to get rid of the Bobbleheads and not the Talismans. The bubblehead’s first ability to tap for mana off any color is immediately superior to both abilities on all talismans! If you want more boneheads to take advantage of their secondary ability, then REMOVE THE TALISMANS AND REPLACE THEM WITH BUBBLEHEADS! DUH!

@Bin6h4m 4 ай бұрын

For Culling Ritual... "Imagine if your opponents have a bunch of treasures" I'm sorry but if your opponents don't sac those in response... your playgroup is just not playing to win at all and in that case go ahead and just keep having fun dude.

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

I literally mention this at the bottom of the video at when talking about the card

@terrellkoenig3790 4 ай бұрын

But but out of the tombs return lab man or thassa’s

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Out of Tombs returning Thoracle is clutch here

@drakoden 4 ай бұрын

You talk way to fast

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

The way life goes I guess

@Yoshtremendous 4 ай бұрын

Keep up grasshopper.

@phabianhernandez613 4 ай бұрын

You listen to slow

@lashermytube 4 ай бұрын

Thease have to be some of the worst suggestions to Upgrade this deck... ignore 90% of it

@Gweezy12 4 ай бұрын

Yeah I was actually really surprised how bad this list was

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Edgelords over here

@justfeckingsh00t91 4 ай бұрын

Vrakasa, betrayal sting was an auto include for me personally for her 0 loyalty proliferation and draw engine ability gets quite out of hand quite fast with rad counters

@ThatMillGuyShaf 4 ай бұрын

Getting this walker out early is so biggg