Mungo man predated modern aboriginal people.

You skipped the most interesting part! The DNA of the first skeletal remains (LM1) were analyzed and matched known aboriginal populations and dated to a few thousand years ago. DNA analysis of the second skeleton (LM3) found that the DNA did not match that of known aboriginals from Australia. Furthermore, the mtDNA was older than "Mitochondrial Eve" from whom all living humans share a maternal lineage. This suggests the remains could have belonged to an entirely separate branch of the human race. Besides being a bombshell discovery for the peopling of Australia, the DNA analysis calls into question the traditional model of a single Out of Africa migration and suggests multiple waves of migration into Australia. Another group of researchers asserted that the remains could have been contaminated (by what? a 40k year old vampire on the excavation crew?), but besides not making any sense, no evidence of contamination was found. The remains were then returned to be re-buried, making sure no one else will ever be able to examine them again with more advanced DNA analysis. But ONLY the LM3 skeleton was re-buried, not the aboriginal remains LM1. Really gets the noggin joggin.

The term "mindless savages" is truly insulting because no species of hominid has ever been "mindless" - our earliest ancestors have showed that they thought, crafted, and created things to improve their survival and quality of life. As for "savages"... well, look at how people treat each other and we are all still savages and maybe even more so because we should certainly know better and therefore have no excuses for our inhumanity to one another.

Humans have existed for hundreds of thousands of years. Written history may tell you otherwise, but like science, we are making more and more progress understanding our past. Ancient people were very intelligent individuals and even created their own technology to build amazing things.

From what I remember of that discovery was they were found to be a different race to today’s indigenous Australians and that finding didn’t go down too well.

theres much more to the mungo dig story but it has become a politically an culturally sensitive topic because it implys a number of racially different humans have occupied that region.

Ochre is used until today as sunscreen, and some researchers are saying that it may not have been sprinkled on the bodies in graves, but that the individuals may have been wearing it.

What evidence is there that the current native residents of the area have any connection at all with Mungo man? If the ancient residents had a culture based on harvesting fish and shellfish they would have probably moved on long before the lake finally dried up thousands of years ago.

"found ... stone tools ... some dating as far back as the last ice-age". That's strange: that's only 11,000 years ago, not 42,000

Surviving there among all that mega fauna is mind blowing.

You forgot to mention they had totally different DNA to modern aboriginals and all research into the skeletons have stopped since that was discovered.

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That was ok. Mungo lady was particularly interesting because in later more advanced testing by French scientists and Australian geneticists it was concluded that Mungo lady was of two human species, part Aborigine and part of unknown origin. There are a number of trains of thought, some believing the Aboriginie's were always here but their DNA proves otherwise. Some say there was no one here when the Aboriginie's first arrived in a location known as the East Kimberley, it cannot be proved or disproved. But the history of a culture can be expressed in many ways particularly through art. The Aboriginie's were prolific in their cave art and reportedly recent cave art in the West NT is believed to be 27,000 years old. That is 11,000 years older than the Gwion Gwion rock art on the Mitchell Plateau. What makes the Gwion cave art interesting is that does not have the features of Aboriginal cave art. It in fact matches cave art from from both African and Indian cave art content and styles. For the time period the Gwion Gwion's in character and style including content are more advanced, how and why did the style disappear? The two issues, was Australia already occupied by an existing hominid species that potentially interbred with the Aboriginie's or they were wiped out, both in light of Mungo lady's genetics and the Gwion may not seem so far fetched. I think we are going to go down the path of truth telling perhaps more excavation of the Mungo site will be a good start.

No human is a "mindless savage." Like other similar YT bits, the images are largely irrelevant, such as a an image of "archaeologists" from 1968 holding old, rusted tools (not archaeological either) and a smartphone (didn't exist in the twentieth century), and no sort of cell phone existed in the 1960s.

The last migration was 6,500 years ago from Southern India , the same timer the dingo arrived , Ernie Dingo from WA is of Southern Indian decent

History is the best example of we are probably wrg about nearly everything history is nearly always because it doesn't have enough information just like human beings.

How old do ancient remains have to be to considered members of a contemporary community? It seems a shame that remains that could have shed so much light on the populating of a location were taken away by others who may not be genetically related to the ancient remains. There should be a cutoff age for determining if human remains are indeed connected to a living population. Kennewick Man was proven to be genetically related to several tribes in Washington and Oregon and given to them. Kennewick Man was only about 9,000 years old.

The remains were not returned in 2015. Debate still exists in 2022.

For those watching this... Australia does not have Deer or wolf, so the pictures are wrong. The ocean and desert pictured is not accurate, and the palm trees in the distance is also wrong. The first missionaries brought palm trees.

Why would anyone assume "mindless brute" about any skeletal remains of any animal. Most animals are not "brutes" and are certainly not "mindless".

Red ochre powder may have been something that was carried with the people for their use and not just gotten when mungo man died. There were to many irreverent pictures.

The true history of mankind on earth is and will probably never be fully understood.

People seem to make things up to be upset about, I've never felt the slightest temptation to interfere with science because someone happens to be a possible ancestor

No anatomy of Mungo Man, no evolutionary perspective. Just a weepy tale.

Some of us think it is plauysible that humans might have arrived in Australia from Africa as early as 130,000 BP.

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I can't BELIEVE that a documentary like this, posted 2 years ago, would use words like "mindless savages" and "mindless brutes" about humann ancestors living 42000 years ago! I find this outrageous.

Interestingly in Britain we found a forty thousand year old burial also buried covered in red ochre, ( The Red Lady Of Paviland) this suggests a cultural connection. this date coincides with the hight of the last ice age when the sea was at it's lowest.

This was interesting, informative and fascinating, in addition to being well presented and narrated. Subscribed.

The mystery of when humans first populated Australia may be related to changes in sea level caused by glaciation in the northern hemisphere. Thus, during the last glacial period, the Wisconsinan, sea level was at least 80 meters below current levels as far back as 70 thousand years ago, meaning that land bridges could have existed between the islands of Indonesia and Australia. During the previous glacial period, the Illinoian, sea levels were around 120 meters below current levels 140 to 160 thousand years ago.

Why did you ignore the huge contribution of Alan Thorne who assembled the bones and arranged the carbon dating?

In our time, right now, there are humans living in different "states" of civilisations. Maybe this was "Sentinel Island" of it's time.

The 1st error “continuous”, no evidence of continuity.

Mungo Jerry had some cool songs.

These people are Aboriginal Australian, not Europeans ? I got confused ??? Lake mungo is a beautiful place, the Inland sea , and so are the Aboriginal people of Australia

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Years later, his progeny Mungo Jerry would record In The Summertime

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As the indigenous have been saying all along- ‘“we have been here so much longer”

thank tou for your reply. i am trying to find out who is doing the print over on the youtube videos!

I hate comments like “mindless cave dweller”, how ignorant and arrogant. These were the bones of Homo sapiens, same as us, they were just as intelligent and capable as any modern human being, their technology allowed them to survive and even thrive in their surrounding. Pointless and foolish to use such terms when describing them.

This red ocre was apparently popular. There was an incident in Maine, US where a red substance that looked like blood came up from the ground and caused a dig. The remains of the "Red Paint People" were thusly discovered. Not only was red ocre used as a paint for objects apparently people painted themselves with it and it might have been a poison that the Red ocre people dumped into the sites of the ones who died there. Possibly to indicate that the paint would cause dangerous iron levels. Regardless of the reason why it was in their sites apparently they had quite a bit of it as it was enough to make a giant fake blood pool that caused an alarm from the locals. I haven't heard anything about a storage Depot of it or a trail that it would have been imported from however it is known that the Picts of the north were known to be painted blue. This is likely from ingesting silver if they weren't painted blue and finally there is a reaction with copper that will turn skin green. Also arsonic will cause green skin. The paint in red ocre could be used as a protection from UV radiation. I suspect that they were using the body paint, that folks who used it might have become toxic, and that at this Maine site that the unit decided to abandon it. In addition to body paint and cave wall painting it's use in fabric and leather would have produced a nice camouflage for hunting.

Mungo Man and Mungo Lady; the parents of Mungo Jerry?

Looks like Mungo Jerry.

mungo man was reverred with good burial but mungo lady was likely not liked and possibly even killed and cremated. she could have been a prisoner but she was burned up for a reason maybe to not come back to harm them after death.

It would have added to the story if you had included all the information about T1 through to T8.

Please tell me this is how they found Mungo Jerry ...

I find it funny how the indigenous claim mungo man and lady to be one of their own, No where in history have you done that to your deceased or buried them in a way like that, I want more answers

Is it possible he was wearing this red ochre on his skin the way some modern Africans do (i.e. Himba Tribe)?

Neanderthals used red ochre if I am not mistaken, so it was probably deeply engrained in tradition.

The Aboriginies first arrived in possibly in the Kimberly area. How long would it have taken to spread from there to Lake Mungo?

One wonders if his people were honoring a shaman or artist. Ocher is a common medium for ancient rock art and therefore a confectioner the spirit world. Just an idea of course..

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If the earth is only 6000 years old , there is nothing older.

They would not of known they were there if not for the scientists now they are upset. Everything they know has been given to them by science

IF Humanity came "Out of Africa" in several migration waves, then there are no Indigenous People anywhere other than Africa. IF there are truly Indigenous People, then the "Out of Africa" claim is false. Can't have it both ways. Personally, I never accepted the "Out of Africa" hypothesis, Nature NEVER creates only one of a thing in only one place.

I have found red ochre in areas.of Westover

The migration out of Africa may have been the first wave to leave Africa yet these ppls distant ancestors may have migrated originally from Australia creating what became the new African colony, like everything , new evidence n updates

I am at a loss here. How did a discovery, however momentous, change what had preciously already happened?

Mungo Jerry!

His name was Gerry.

And from their people came the ancestors of the Chilean Yaghan peoples who arrived in South America shortlt after Mungo man's death

Who is doing the printover for these videos?

Mindless savage is a suitable title... When shown dna evidence remote sri lankan communities were happy and amazed to know their connection to the greater world of humanity... aboriginals when shown the same became violent and abusive towards the researchers.

If 40 thousand years, why not 100 thousand? Tool carrying hominins had been in SE Asia for half a million years by then. There are some indications of that in Southern Australia.

The 'mindless savages' must come in a later migration.

2nd error “brought in” why couldn’t it have been present for ceremonial purposes? Beggars belief the people kept the body unburied while some one walked 200 km to get the rock and carry it back 200km

I wonder if life was fairly easy for these ancient people.

Weird image choice dude. Could have used images from near Lake Mungo at least.

Even in the 60s and 70s (and we’ll before) intelligent people did not simply assume our ancestors were mindless savages. This narrator is imposing a lot of his own presuppositions on to general thought.

I thought humans had migrated to australia some 70,000 years ago??? After the end that ice age back then.

42,000 yrs?

204 they found a phone and a hammer

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‘Mindless cave men?” Wtf?

The study of ancient human movement across the globe, should always take precedence over the wants of a current populations thoughts on such an ancient find. Advances in such knowledge are more important. Also, there was no 'first nation'. Aussie Aborigines were not one nation. They were many seperate groups, meeting for trade etc no doubt. But not a nation. nation.

History didn't change ...some timelines got amended that's all

8:48 Just because the ochre is red, from a distance of 100-200 km away doesn't mean they went there to get it. The lake is on a dehydrated river system and the more likely transmission of ocher is by trade either from group to group or through annual or biennial gatherings. Also ... can you _not_ do the photo thing? It's disconcerting to watch pictures that have no relevance to the story you're trying to tell, geologists not archaeologists, lake filled with water when Lake Mungo was dry, had been dry for thousands of years, random artefacts that did not exist at the dig, no actual photos of the dig or the archaeologists? You could do better, it's not that hard. I'd even rather snap shots of the peer reviewed articles you got your info from.

Ok... A few things: 1. Mungo Lady was a blonde white girl in what looked like wolf furs? The black man was visibly African American?? Are you really comfortable with entirely erasing Aboriginal people even from a story about us?? 2. Dude, do you have to lean into racist tropes QUITE so comfortably while, like everyone I'm sure, you show great enthusiasm and surprise that we are descended from "real humans" with feelings and thoughts just like yours! (Dramatic reveal)?? We aren't circus freaks and it's not the 60s anymore so you don't get to use that kind of racist coding without being called out. Edit this or remove it.

Keep up with the true events of history and soon enough you will find out the real reason why Empire had to murder then erase and subdue the first people's, but in the cosmos of things and truth of matter we see the perfect circle coming around and karma comes knocking at the door.

Since the Aboriginals are the oldest continuos culture in this world. I think we should hire some aboriginal people and take them to a tour in Europe and Asia and let them see the cave paintings and let them explain them to us.

They could have saved a lot of time and energy if they had just found mungo Jerry. 😁

From mungo Mongo land.

This video portrays it as if they were the only people alive at the time. There were cultural societies living all over the planet at that time. These are not unique nor did they rewrite anything. New discoveries do not erase previous facts.

You mean it turned out right, for once? They got to go back home? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 God is great, isn't He?!!!!!!!!!

Give it a moment, they will entangle it with all the other things that I have learned are not true. Dirt by bone, bone by dirt...parts that do not belong, and no idea at all about how incorrect you will be in 30 years.

Mungo Man and Mungo Lady. Australia's oldest human remains. The skeletons that rewrote human history. No British people could ever do that or be that important. haha

Shows denisovians were real first peoples

I truly believe there have been people here from day 1 it's stupid to think that Aborigines Come Out of Africa went past all the other developing humans didn't pick up any of their skills not even the bow and arrow it just simply doesn't make sense. and why are there no Aboriginal cultures anywhere else on Earth with such primitive people ? compare any Australian Aboriginal to any other native and you will see what I'm talking about

I've seen Mungo man & his gal pal in the nyc subway system

3rd error, no evidence AT ALL that Mungo Man is related to modern Aboriginals, to the contrary, there is evidence “modern” aboriginals came from Southern Undia no more than 6,000 years ago, not 42,000+ years ago.

I wish we could just clone some of these people. Then you'd have a way to tell just how intelligent they actually were. Mungo man may not even be aboriginal. He could have been another group before the group now. But we'll never know because they will make sure to hide that sht.

The presumption of indigenous people to claim authority to disposition of ancient humans is not reasonable. Line up a hundred people and play a game of telephone--and see how verbal communication actually degrades. Without a clear line of unbroken thought the present does not speak for the past.

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The British still insisted that Australia was uninhabited hy humans... Meaning that they did not consider aboriginals human beings.

"not mindless cave-dwellers..." What kind of mind-set sees the world that way?

There were Europeans that where here before the Aboriginals