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Stupid people generally don't have the attention span to watch a whole match. Let alone re-watch and analyse it. I'll go with what my eyes tell me, thank you very much.

Even smart people with eyes can still fall victim to cognitive bias.

@@martytu20 Exactly. I watch Liverpool vs Man Utd and I think Quansah had a great game bar the misplaced pass, and United fans genuinely think he played badly. I’ve done the same the other way round too.

@@liverbot4854Quansah did have a bad game that day though

Spot on

Yeah but Hazard is miles clear

@@ViniciusJunior17 Not even close

You can still use stats to compare hazard and salah, you just have to properly contextualize it. For example in 2018 hazard had significantly more touches, passes, long balls, dribbles than salah. That shows that hazard is player that’s involved in all phases of play while salah is mostly involved in just the final third. There’s nothing wrong with that. But it shows how different their approach to the game is.

@@skfc9525yeah salah is more of a dominate the wing typa player, while hazard was more of a free roaming winger that can drop to the midfield and play as a 10 to start up the attack

All you said about Saka is true, he’s just not enjoyable to watch. That’s just it.

@@waynewayne8419 that’s fine he’s still a bad boy player tho

Twitter accounts do actually know and watch football, it’s just they farm for engagement, and the more popular they have become people start to believe their views, especially those relatively knew to football.

Saka isn't particularly technically gifted, don't gaslight yourself. It doesn’t mean he isn't efficient.

hes not technically gifted but he is very effective

This. The eye test was supposed to check whether the stats were representative of the quality of the player, by checking if the player has good decision making, whether he is being carried by teammates, etc. Now it is how enjoyable he is to watch in a highlight reel.

I agree and Bellingham is a good example. Although “stiff” he is strong as hell on the ball. However this season he was not as good as his stats. Not in Real Madrid, not in England

​@@occelatus1063 yeah, sure buddy.

@@roleoahotondji54 irony or agreed?

@@occelatus1063 I'm being sarcastic

well it goes both ways because there are stat merchants who act as if aesthetic players are not efficient, the type of people who would say hazard / neymar / messi etc had a bad game because they didnt get g/a, even though they were the best player on the pitch

​@@kcte8 g/a is the most efficient part

@@Kevy808what

​@@Nahanooyes if ur a forward player G/A is very important

@@Kevy808?

real

You know you are one of the people? 😂

I mean good for you lot? They can come up more effective all they want but why should we appreciate them? Is it our fault other players are simply more enjoying to watch? No wonder football continues to lose followers.

@@waynewayne8419Noones saying we shouldn’t appreciate aesthetic players as fans, the point is just that we shouldn’t mistake being entertaining for being good at football. Many people make this mistake.

​@@waynewayne8419Both are useless on their own, if the game leans too hard on the aesthetic then it's not professional play and all you're watching is a freestyle compilation with no one actually trying to win, and if you focus too much on the nitty gritty of the game you'll have parking the bus for 90 mins and flopping on every challenge to get a foul. The actual football we want is contrast between both and balance, where you can get a match consisting of multiple playstyles mashed together playing another team of multiple playstyles mashed together, that's where the beauty of the game lies, everyone has their own approach, not just one way to play. Trying to force one style down everyone's throat is ignorant.

@@waynewayne8419Learn to read

@@moayad_zh who’s trying to force one style over another? Football is a product, no one wants to come watch people just passing the ball around doing nothing. It’s already losing viewers but you guys are so incessantly obsessed with trying to water down the sport

Random but this is such a beautiful comment. So glad someone appreciates the guy, he's also so so elegant and a joy to watch, really sad what has been done to him workload wise and now he's out for 2 more months after that kroos kick. I really hope we can see him back at it after being taken care of in a better way and that they don't dare selling him :( (he should probably put on some serious muscle too to prevent injury, hopefully the new manager comes with a new physio /medical team cause boy, that club is a hospital.

Someone who actually understands football,i don't get why all of a sudden people don't think Pedri is of the same level to the Judes and Musialas of this world,some say Camavinga is better than him but don't get me wrong Cama is a great player but he's nowhere near as technically gifted like Pedri

Even for messi's size he is unusually quick and agile. But yes the eye test can be decieving. Especially how some teams play.

Bellingham not the most aesthetic player out there tbh, as a casual fan I prob won’t turn the tv on for him. But efficiency is what makes him good

Its not hard to play like messi.

@@faizantahir6228 lol most people dont train thier bodies to beable to play like him or are just too tall.

@@jenniferwang6367I completely disagree, Bellinghams body movement and the way he swings his legs and arms are very uniquely aesthetically pleasing, the way he dribbles with his wide shoulders and wide arms. that’s why he is widely known to play like Zidane

tbf our LB/LWB is a center mid

He was literally Englands only threat, it just didn’t lead to anything because Harry Kane is a lazy f**k who wouldn’t do his job and get in the 6 yard box

😂😂😂😂 jogo bonito I ain't never heard of that one

Saka is England's best player by a mile

@@tindo9833 stop lying to yourself

Yeah it’s strange how Saka gets so much hate, maybe it’s just racism

​@@AyubHassan07Maybe? It definitely is

Is it do look at boxing. Many people hate the likes of Mayweather calling him a pussy for the way he fights but his record is immaculate. But then Ali many consider him the goat has a far from immaculate record. But because he was flashy person and he had some very memorable fights people consider him the goat.

@@johnbrad9463what you do outside of the ring makes you the goat. I don’t think anyone thinks Ali is a better boxer..

W pfp

Basketball has been dealing with the same conflict too

No. This is hardly unique to this sport

exactly!!! people act like players with less g/a are only aesthetic and are not efficient, whereas they are efficient but in different ways other than finding goals and assists (e.g hazard)

There are more stats than just g/a

@@soloplays4557 100% agree. Whenever people say Bellingham is clear of x player because he has more g/a is so annoying

@@BLACKSTA361 did we watch the same euros?

@@jenniferwang6367 if youre basing your entire opinion on a player on a single tournament then youre no better than the eye test merchants. People like you are the same people that try to downplay Ronaldos achievements cause of the world Cup 2022. If you let a single tournament overshadow everything else then you might not understand Football and even Sports as well as you think you do

Someone said you can judge how much a person knows about football based on how they talk about Havertz and I think that’s spot on

@@olliemcdowell4503Havertz from what I’ve seen in a confidence player, in his early chelsea days he looked like such a dangeorus player but the longer he stayed he didn’t look right. Joined arsenal and a few months in he was firing for the gunners again. But as a 9, he also has elite tactical understanding. So I can see why he’s a starter but his finishing can really be so detrimental, he has a tendency to miss easy chances

​@@omother6950 as a german i hope that he will succeed Gündogan on the 10, when the time is right. Kai allowed players like Musiala and Wirtz to shine at the Euros with his genius positioning off the ball but i'd prefer having him + a real 9 like Füllkrug or Undav on the pitch at the same time. I still think that his 8 position suited him better than the CF role with his headballing capeabillities and one on one strengths, if Arsenal can sign a real 9 but if Jesus stays the only other option then taking Havertz as a CF would be fine again.

@@rannynihilius8481 arsenal do need a 9, however they still scored over 100 goals last season without one. They can definitely win trophies with Havertz and Jesus as the 9’s

@@omother6950yh the carabo cup no No.9 no trophies for Arsenal

Been saying this for years. If you're a young kid that wants to get into football. Watch Muller, not Neymar. Effective football over circus tricks any day of the week.

​@@AJ-nd4nkWatch Prime Cristiano Ronaldo if you want to get the best of both Worlds

I Don't think anyone is talking about career when they say neymar is closer to Ronaldo then Ronaldo is to messi i think they're taking about ability and I agree if there taking about ability not aesthetics but like dribbling touch weight of pass ball carrying close control these are the attributes that people will say neymar is better than Ronaldo not career or goalscorer

Ronaldo from 2006/7 season to 2013/14 season have everything in his game man Go watch Ronaldo 2009/10 season one of the most entertaining season by a player in football history@@stellaada6600

Neymar's on ball ability (bar his driibbling/skill moves) is seriously underrated, his passing(both long short, and through balls), his finishing e.t.c, so when people say that he's closer to Ronaldo than Ronaldo is to Messi, I think they're trying to say that Neymar is better at PLAYING football compared to Ronaldo, but Ronaldo's had a better career and has better numbers.

The irony is even based on "aesthetics" ronaldo is easily on par w neymar if you consider his 2006-2008 version

@@KidneyJones The whole point of the vid is things like positional awareness, aerial ability, raw speed, ball striking, etc. are part of "playing football." People think that "pure footy" is only things you'd see in london cages.

Factos

exactly, I think people forget how the pro level is. You can’t dribble through 5 elite defenders unless ur an absolute talent. It’s OKAY to not be as talented or skilled as Neymar or dinho.

@@elinelson19 yeah, like look at Ronaldo he’s not as skillful on the ball as Neymar but is still 10x better than him because football isn’t just dribbling

@@davispaul2279 I think Ronaldo is skillful in general. Especially before he became a true 9. He was just a pure winger all his career until 09’ he was hella skillful but Neymar was more. It’s just that such skillers set the bar so high so that you need to be doing 89 rainbow flicks to be considered elite. It’s also about your production. Skills and dribbling are used to create space or to eliminate a man from the equation. Such for if you can beat your man but can’t finish. What good are you to the team?

@@elinelson19 yeah, people talk about Neymar vs Bayern in 2021 but he missed 5 easy chances that game

Except this has never been in football, you guys are just new fans and that’s why we are having robotic wingers now

@@waynewayne8419 we have "robotic wingers" now, because one man in todays systems is not the only person a winger has to beat. That's why most high level players and teams like saka, bellingham, doku, bernardo silva, kdb, prefer passing around players rather than dribbling through 5 of them, as they have a way higher chance of scoring that way.

@@syedasadhaider4677 then why watch a match lmfao, I’d rather just watch highlights if that’s what’s going to be happening

Yeah he got way more hate than other players. Even when Kane missed a penalty vs France, nobody really remembered it

I mean as inconsistent as he is, he’s still very good to have on the pitch because you can always bet on his ability to beat his man and cause chaos for the team at the back.

How is saka one dimensional and Palmer isnt. Palmer is way too direct all of the times as you saw vs slovakia leading to him fking up 5 counter attacks

@@COYG-xj5ok being direct doesn't mean you're on dimensional, as I said saka likes to cut in, because that's what he can do best. That's what makes him one dimensional

mate you have to be kidding

Exactly! When someone who really watches football is talking about the eye test obviously he's not talking about fancy flicks and tricks. And they would never be surprised if the stats show how effective or ineffective a certain player is.

​@@totsh2056Exactly 90% of the eye test is what the player does off the ball

Agreed with everything you said except Lacazette, he was a bum and outclassed by every other player you mentioned

underrated comment

I love Jxmmy highroller

U need to take into account the roles of the footballers, Xavi and iniesta didn’t have the same roles, iniesta was usually a little higher and more of a goal threat than Xavi who built up the play with busquets. Same w modric, kroos is usually deeper than him

Iniesta and modric are better because they could create stuff out of nothing ( xavi could a lot of time) he’s not the same player when playing further up the field example when he was at bayern he wasnt a sure starter

​@@omother6950Iniesta was my favourite player and he was never a bigger goal threat than Xavi. Simply because he wasn't a good shot taker or closer

@@filipe10messiyou ? You don’t know what ur talking about, iniesta was a big goal threat, he even scored the winning goal to see urs Spain the World Cup. He had the license to run into the space opened up by false 9 Messi or in spains striker

@@omother6950 I'll repeat: Iniesta was my favourite player of all time. I have watched every single Barcelona game since 2006 and I can tell you without a doubt that Iniesta was never a greater goal threat than Xavi. He never reached 10 goals in a season. Not a single time. And he played a lot closer to the box. Xavi was a better shooter and a better finisher, and wasn't close. He played further from the box, as the link between the first phase of construction and Messi/Iniesta pendulum...and still always scored a little more. Those are facts.

Not having the ball doesn’t always mean you’re ghosting though…

So, what are you saying? Is Hazard or Salah better? You can say "it has to be a combination" but that doesn't really say anything either. The eye test will still fool you if you're biased for a certain playstyle, even if you also look at the actual stats.

​@@brzt4256the more efficient footballer is objectively better for the team. So in this case Salah. A "washed" Salah can still score 20 goals a season, a washed Hazard is retired and been irrelevant for 6 years.

@@chy.0190 im a fan of this analogy

@@brzt4256 true, bias is always involved. Eden Hazard takes the cake for me, the ability to affect all phases of the game is invaluable. Those kind of players are the true essence of football, stats will serve you for a while but that’ll be that. A great example is Benzema vs Kane, you could score all the goals you want but you need to have certain flair and execution to be truly remarkable in the sport for me. But Hazard vs Salah people forget they were both at Chelsea at the same age and we all know what happened

Modern football is washed with stats so I know that’s why some of these arguments come up, by this analogy then Erling Haaland is the greatest striker the premier league has seen

ur wrong. for example, so many players these days are being praised for having high pass success rates but when you actually watch them you realise that they rarely attempt a progressive / killer pass or take risks - majority of the passes are backwards or sideways. dont act as if the eye test is flawed and stats are not, when in reality stats are the thing that can create false pictures and deceive. you can never be deceived when actually watching the game

​@@kcte8there are stats for progressive passing and through ball attempts mate, lol.

@@nakiyame2606is that average person going to see that on social media / look for that?

@@nakiyame2606 that doesn’t make what i said wrong, that literally shows that certain stats can be deceptive if other stats arent included with it. whereas that can never be the case with eye test

​@@kcte8can never be the case with eye test? The original comment is right, what does the eye test actually measure? It's very subjective and can be even more deceptive than just using stats

And the winger thing is stupid. Nobody is out here critisizing Saka when he is one of the best EPL players. He is most definetely not stiff and has a great repertoir of things he can do, you shouldn't base things off a couple twitter dudes. Ofc being an electric winger such as Vinicius, Neymar, young Dembele, means you have an immense advantage over other wingers because of your capability to exploit the opposite defence out of nowhere, but nobody underestimates players like Mahrez, Pires, Salah

Problem is eye test is based on how the person views football.. Stats are objective. Both are necessary imo. With alot of people nowadays though, eye test just means someone who looks more aesthetically pleasing.

@@chy.0190 it's not. If you base someone's level off highlights, it's probably gonna be based off aesthetics, but if you watch actual games it won't be that way. Stats depend a lot on the context of the player.

Nah I disagree. Eye test is based off a person personal preference of football. On sites like fbref they have all these stats in detail. Chances created. Through balls, key passes, shot creation actions. All these thing and more. If a person you think is good from ur eye watch but isn’t having high Numbers in these these areas. For example if a centre midfielder hasn’t got high key passes, hand creation, tackles, interceptions, low possession lost, duel success percentage. Then you have to question what the player is actually doing. Surely ur eyes are at fault if he isn’t putting up good numbers in those stats. But it’s good because looking at fbref and sqwauka the top players we all know of e.g Toni Kroos has ones of the highest chance creation, key passes etc

Stats matter a lot because. People often will say Modric is better than Kroos from their eye test. But all they are seeing is Modric doing a dribble or doing a fancy pass. Whilst me as an ex semi pro footballer when I watch Madrid game I see Kroos passing between lines breaking lines, switching the play. Creating chances. And the stats back it up e.g Since Kroos joined Madrid. 2nd most big chances created after benzema. 1st most key passes. 1st most assist. 1st highest passing accuracy and long ball accuracy. 2nd highest Sofascore rating after Ronaldo. But since Kroos is stiff and not as silky as Modric or iniesta they Weill say those 2 are better than him when in reality Kroos is having a far bigger impact in the game and even has the most basic stat (goal + assist) per game better than those two. Whilst also winning more trophies than Modric. It also doesn’t help that balondor and other awards rankings favour silky/ fancy players and attacking players.

U live under a rock?

@@omother6950 That’s valid, it’s fun to watch Saka. Do YOU live under a rock omother6950?

@@AyubHassan07 how have you not heard about saka he’s literally one of the best players in England

@@omother6950 pretty sure hes a new fan

If bro scored 5000 goals he gets the goat title

@@georgec5212 obviously it’s an exaggeration… you get the point

why would he not be better though? you literally just ignored what the entire video just said lmfao

@@kali192z if that’s how you look at the sport then, you might as well not watch games wait for the result and goalscorers. All the best players of all time have got an eye test bias

@@Prime1Wunna Haaland has already achieved more at club level than R9 and scores more goals than R9. so what makes R9 better? dribbling 😂

Ahh yes Gaucho is overrated, I swear some of you new age fans are crazy and will be the end of this sport.

@@waynewayne8419 Can you please at least try to counter my points instead of just saying empty words?

​@@sanuzeraffi6164 It's hard to imagine that you actually watched Ronaldinho and still came to that conclusion

@@kabizo1729 you just perfectly proved the point of the video with your comment. Sure he was one of the best ever, but where is he difference if you beat your defender with a multi-elastico-3037-deluxe or just with a simple body feint? Right there isn't one. Neymar is also very overrated for the same reason. He is never the 3rd best of our generation when there are players like Neuer, Ramos, Suarez and Lewandowski. And btw I don't think that Ronaldinho was bad or anything, I just don't believe he deserves to be in the top 20 or even 10 of footballers of all time. (I think most of those lists online are bullcrap anyways as there are a maximum of 2 defenders in the top 10, no goalkeepers and maybe 1-2 midfielders, when in reality the best defender, midfielder, goalkeeper and attacker should all be on the same level. My top 10 would look something like this: 1. Messi/Ronaldo 2. Ronaldo/Messi 3. Beckenbauer 4. Zidane (also has the same advantage as Dinho though in terms of "watchability" so maybe a bit unjustified) 5. Maldini 6. Pelé 7. Buffon 8. Maradona 9. Platini 10. Baresi

Constantly put pressure on Walker and England in the final until it paid off, baller

Idk man I think Ozil’s vision and brave approach with his creativity sets him apart he sees things no one else would see and he does stuff that is stupidly brave but works

⁠@@iceade9842ozil doesn’t do anything better than de bruyne besides play aesthetically

@@olliemcdowell4503 that’s a wild take man, look at his number whilst being on that God awful Arsenal squad

@@iceade9842ok now look at Kevin de bruynes numbers for the past 7 years. Better in every metric

@@iceade9842 Awful Arsenal squad? Numbers ? Are you fine my guy ? De Bruyne's worst season in city is better than Ozil's best lol

@@skittlez2528 🫡🫡🫡

Agreed. I think he does try and touch on that tho. That the eye test isn’t all bad

@@blyki867 Appreciate it man, I been takin more time makin em

He tried to sound deep, but was yappin nonsense

@@apextheracer2022 Jackie Chan? 🤣

Messi is a better winger than Ronaldo tho

Musiala way better player than bellingham imo

@@StraighTMurkZ messi plays way better from the middle than he does the wing, plus ronaldo does not only play the left, but the right also, even when compared to messi ronaldinho whoever, cr7 is like the best ever winger

I like the point you tried to make and it would be valid if that was only the case now here's the deal musiala is a better player than Bellingham for me not just because he's a better dribbler but because he impacts and has the same level of impact as Bellingham because he doesn't dribble a couple of guys and passes it sideways he always drives forward and he also has pretty good numbers to back it up like I think for the past few seasons he's had over 22 g/a on average per season which in my book is pretty decent for a CAM Now I know and acknowledge that when it comes to versatility Bellingham comes out on top dude has had MOTM performances playing in DM,CM,CAM hell even in CF or SS but if where being objective your not going to see many matches where Bellingham isn't playing as a CAM moving forward for club or country(maybe for country it could differ but definitely not for club) and in that position I would prefer musiala and that is why I think that musiala is a better talent than Bellingham because not only is he a better player ascethetically but he also has the ability to produce the numbers to back it up it's basically the same reason I prefer Messi to Ronaldo because both have great scoring ability both can flip a game on his head but only one when they touch the makes my hair stand on end only one keeps me on the edge of my sit pretty much every time they touch the ball and that's that

@@JonathanOkwuchi-ib9jyplease write less next time

100% agree. Saka is one my fav players but if you watched the England vs Spain game it was clear that Williams and Yamal were way more of a threat than Saka because of their ability to quickly dribble past and take on their defenders 1v1. whereas I felt Saka was much slower in doing so and had the ball too long which lead to lost opportunities. Similarly when people who say Bellingham is clear of musiala because he is just a “dribbling merchant” when him being able to dribble through tight spaces in the midfield and carry the ball is super important in the build up of the attack because it offers more threat to the defense, especially in transition. This is just stuff that don’t show up on the stats, but you can clearly tell through the eye test.

@@jenniferwang6367 100% agree with you bro for me Yamal vs Saka is more about me having respect for Saka having played longer cause for me Yamal was better than Saka this season, but I cannot get myself to say he's better now cause it's only been 1 season, and with Jude I respect he gets G/A and while that's important I just don't think it's fair to say because he gets G/A that he's better than the likes of Pedri, Musiala and such cause without them a player like Jude doesn't get all those goals and assists.

This fr, stats will only serve you for a time. The emphasis on stats nowadays is for people who don’t truly understand football

yeah stats can mislead someone, fotmob shows salah dropped an 8.1 against Man Utd earlier this year in the 2-2 draw but that was one of the worst performances i've seen from a winger

@@hazarditoo how

@@acham182 how

This might start my villain arc

DANN. You right

Na Jude is definitely better than Xavi Simons but I do admit Jude has been wildly inconsistent all season. I would say Dortmund Jude was better than Xavi Simons and that Jude has the highest ceiling out of the names you mentioned alongside Musiala.

​@@bna919Define ceiling/potential

You completely misunderstood what Ancelotti said also Xavi is not better than Jude and that’s facts stats aside

He’s inconsistent like did you see his performance against Argentina in the Wc final shambolic

His decision making/end product is 🐕 💩, it's so frustrating seeing glimpses of genius instead of the full package

@@chingyminecraftgods9424 yeah because he's still playing like a teenager

@@RegzalTG he's a prodigious teenager in a grown man's body 🤣

barca almost killed his career just like pedri's, fati, coutinho and soon yamal

That's what made me love this guy very funny shit

😂😂

You took another route to the same destination, still hung up on stats. One player affects all phases of play the other is only associated with the final 20 yards. They’re not similar players as Hazard even drops into CM to start and still finish attacks, he’s not Salah’s profile that hangs around the box to shoot or pass. That’s why Hazard fans and admirers appreciate him more, because to a lot of people total footballer package is more than just goals or assists. By your logic then Frank Lampard is easily better than Xavi, Iniesta and Pirlo

@@acham182salah is better in a defensive sense and an attacking sense, hes so pacy and energetic. Hazard struggles to keep his belly off the floor. Just please stop the waffle

Hazard is the better by far. Only thing Salah has over hazard is GA as a inside forward with 2 of the best playmaking talents the prem has ever seen

@@Nahanoo word fr, it’s pretty clear for me. Elegance > automation

@@acham182so

That's also bcos of his shit decision making, that would affect all areas of his game, his finishing/end product, crossing and passing.

@@SBF90210 not really outweigh, moreso not disregarded. Not every player’s gonna have a show boating play style and at the end of the day, the goal for a lot of these guys is to win. Efficiency matters jus as much as entertainment

@@mandafrombk I'm not saying you have to be a show boat to be good. But i am sayng you have to be entertaining to be great. I also ageee that show boats with no end product are useless, but at least a showboats average game will include good technique and surprises(Ben Arfa) whereas a pace and power player's average game is full of bad touches and needless aggression(Doku) I'm seeing comments say Dinho and Neymar damaged the sport with compilations but I'd much rather watch rainbow flicks and nutmegs for an hour than Jude box crashing. As if neymar and dinho don't have some of the best stats and accolades in history to match their entertainment factor. It shouldn't be either or. It HAS to be both. But if its not... rather entertain a brudda

Just because they're more entertaining doesn't make them a better overall player

@@SBF90210 But entertainment could be subjective. Many people dismissed passing as “entertainment” but the unmatched elegance and balance of a player’s posture when hitting a pass (Beckham, Bergkamp, Pirlo, Laudrup, Zidane, Kroos, etc.) is very aesthetically pleasing for me. It’s obvious that not everyone enjoys the same things. I love Dinho’s style too, but people forgot there was a time Beckham was the leading midfielder in La Liga in terms of efficiency over a prime Ronaldinho. You don’t need to be able to do 10 elasticos on top of your achievements to be great. Defending is what I would consider an art as well.

@@heijimikata7181 im not saying entertainment is only attacking but the video is mainly about attackers. All aspects of footy can be art to me, even goalkeeping. But if we talk about passing, if you think kroos is a more "entertaining" passer than pogba... then to each is their own. But i think pogba uses more flair because he can, whereas toni just doesnt have it. Both world class in their time, but i know who I'd rather watch

THANK YOU

Yeah he doesn’t do dribbles just to not do anything with it so he’s not good enough for them

@@PacoMemo163 ?

@@davispaul2279 I’m being sarcastic I’ve heard people genuinely argue since he’s not “ aesthetically pleasing” or a “pure midfielder” he’s not good. To them a pure midfielder is a twink who can dribble in circles.

@davispaul2279 bellingham is not a better passer than musiala

I disagree on the shearer point shearer was pue efficiency and to get the numbers he did while playing with the newcastle side he did is only possible with great positioning press and understanding of the game plus even when his physical attributes slipped due to injuries he still had massive impact that can only happen with intelligent play shearer wasnt flashy but when watching his games closely you can tell he wasnt just numbers he was a calculated pure striker with the best eye for a goal ive ever seen though you could argue lack of success in competition could hurt his placement among the first group of players you mentioned eg zidane henry etc

@@chillspot331 are you sayin he’s not? It’s one of his best attributes, what??? He’s one of the most high IQ wingers in the world, it’s one of the main reasons he’s such a huge difference maker for Arsenal and England despite not having the most insane skill/move set

@chillspot331 just shut up

​@mandafrombk elite decision maker...nah I'd say it's hard to call sny young winger elite at decision making is he very good yes but if your gonna say elite then you mean like a kdb or cesce fabregas at their best and rn I'd say that outside rodri and kroos who is retiring and a select few are elite decision makers...vinicius is a much better player than saka and both are very similar wingers(vini is just a bigger moment player and has the whole aesthetic thing) also to say saka isn't a pretty footballer is interesting as not many players have alot of flair overall as players don't really.get that freedom and saka is an efficient player overall but elite at anything is a strong statement heck alot of great midfielders aren't elite decision makers(wirtz or foden) and wingers(vini and saka) also to say Dembele is only known for speed and flair is really a lie as he was always praised as a good overall playmaker and decision maker(watch his stats and highlights he can beat his man and make the right cross or pass uses both feet and had good assist numbers for a fairly new star to the big leagues check his last year and rennes and first year at dortmund) he had his growth stunted at barca... heck ion even wanna be rambling but heck to continue as someone who doesn't even have an issue with saka he hasn't been great at the tournament he has barely beat his defender in games and while completing dribbles they haven't been very impactful(I'd still argue he's been better than foden and others but still below avg just like the entire England team tbh) while Spain have simply performed better so bike will have a better ranking due to team performance and also also saka isn't even an elite player in football rn he's very close and I think he will mature into one as he shows flashes but to say elite at anything is a stretch he's very good but elite as a decision maker or playmaker is wild.

@@mandafrombk idk saka never completes that ever wows or suprises me. I think his decision making is above average considering he usually is able to keep possesion but saying its elite is crazy

​​@@lsnamber lol. It must be cos his black. Saka football IQ is off the charts.

No dummy. Ronaldinho the godfather of dribbling. Literally looks like he dances when he dribbles

@yeatdagoat173 that's cool too but he got carried when he won the world cup

@yeatdagoat173 plus ronaldinho himself said neymar's better than him so stop being a nostalgia merchant🤡🤦‍♂️

Neymar is better on the eye test, and stat wise I don’t understand how he isn’t widely recognized as better. Maybe because he played in a poor Brazil side.

@@dovo9995yeah played in a poor Brazil side and still ended destroying the record of Pele gaining the most all time goals for Brasil and Messi for ALL time assist provider internationally

Then don't watch

Nah Saka is incredibly effective and exciting to watch because you know he’ll make the right decision in the end.

@@M0J0-RL236 yea hes effective but he aint my type of player

@@smelly1060 with pleasure lmao. very stinky players

@@sonicwithglasses131who’s your type of player then

Saka isn’t a striker, of course he finishes less. When he is in front of goal, he usually scores

@@AyubHassan07 Did you watch Arsenal this season? First half of the season they struggled hard to score and Saka didn't create much