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This is your 1000th comment!

We forgive you, daddy Doug!

Any news on the Lexus IS500 touch screen that other YTers verified? Wondering if you just got a bunk build of the car that somehow didn't have the touchscreen equipped; everyone else reviewing the car (e.g smoking tire) confirmed the IS500 had it specced.

I agree!

Only car companies that cheap out or tech companies that want to be car companies put all the buttons in the OS. And I say this as a software engineer. If I could design a car I’d put the coolest physical buttons I could, not make them little icons on a screen.

I agree but the customers Subaru gets have connotations with reliability. You could say Volvo is safe. Or mercedes is luxury. Subaru is reliable. They understand physical buttons make it reliable.

@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Yep! Big win for me. Nice looking car. Not practical enough for my use but still nice.

@@rahul38474 It's funny to see that even Ferrari cheap out. Have you seen Ferrari Roma that Doug reviewed a few months ago? The interior is new and they put touchscreens everywhere. But the point is that these screens are laggy as a 2010 smartphone. Also, with no haptic feedback you don't even know if you really touched the "button". This is distracting during the drive and can be dangerous. I don't wanna sound like a boomer who hates screens, but if they are less precise than physical buttons, why use them? It looks cool only until you want to turn climate control on when driving.

Heck yeah to all of that. I think the first gen looks better though.

Yes, the back seats are for insurance purposes. It would make the car more expensive to own without them. You can easily remove them yourself. It's all about the insurance.

@@SI0AX They don't exist for insurance purposes and if you truly believe that then you need to take a closer look at how insurance companies work. Seriously, do you really think insurance looks at the Mustang GT and think "wow a V8 with 460 hp and 420 lbs-ft of torque rear wheel drive sports car which people will use to speed and drift and it costs 40k, we will need to charge a lot for insurance. WAIT! It has back seats! we need to lower our costs!" if that's how you think insurance works then you are easily fooled and easily scammed

@@ghafooryrahim2233344 # of doors heavily influences insurance cost. Sometimes they just over-simplify the "categories" to adjust insurance cost. TBH I don't know if a 2 door car with rear seats vs no rear seats actually makes a difference I think it's just # of doors.

@@SI0AX that is correct, number of doors does have an influence because statistics show that a car with 4 doors is less likely to get in a deadly crash than a car with 2 doors

Yeah, be and my brother switch the jack when he suddenly wants to play a song and I'm using Waze in my phone and can't hand it to him.

I use a newer iPod nano with a screen and bluetooth it's a creature comfort thing guess he just prefers the sounds of his moans and the engine it's a middle class car not some hyper car at SEMA

Almost no new phones have an aux port though.

@@georgejones5019 the rise of the dongles

@@potatonado3023 Dong-less, one might say.

WHAT IS YOUR TAG

Lucky guy, my uncle got to work on one, and he was talking about it months later 😂

@@bmar916 What's there to lie about? It's not like an FC is a super expensive or unobtainable car. It's not an FD.

@@iheartninja That's true I honestly don't remember making that comment it may have been directed towards another comment entirely or was just my manic self being jealous, so I deleted it.

Manuelle

Tbh only the Japanese are the only passionate people left

I agree. This usually happens to any car, not just sports car

Except the ND Mx-5 of course!

“Must look new, must change exterior”

@@straightbusta2609 Lol I don't think you're actually paying attention or you're 15.

His body language is nauseating

@@BrewsAndBraaps My thoughts exactly! How do you say.............ah that's it! A pain in the arse! Other than that, not bad, My score 5/10!🙂

Doug doesn’t care about that. 😂

It’s a Doug DeMuro tradition that he misses the best quirk for every car he reviews. He’ll talk about everything except the one thing you think is special about the car without fail.

Nah the animation is only in the toyota

@@ModestMonkey really? Coulda sworn i saw it in another video

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I know right? How has this become such a small niche?

@@jackroutledge352 because people grow up and have families. Which probably makes uo most of the car market. Samw person that needs BRZ could get around an a bike. Plus its not a good choice for a second weekend car.

The type of people that would buy a cheaper sports car like this probably aren't able to afford more than one car, so they choose something more practical. This is perfect for someone that does want a cheaper car for the track but that's a pretty small market.

Affordable until you spin a rod

@@dazza818 Why it is not a good choice for second weekend car?

i own the 2020 brz and got so hurt hearing him continuously hammer the old model like it was awful. it’s a fun car that’s quick and enjoyable to take corners around

@@evanduplessis9911 Yes, that was exactly the point while making this car, they never ment to make it strong, rather enjoyable to drive.

Roof bubbles can serve two functions.

In the old one 3 medium-tall adults can fit fine, though the rear passenger needs their shoes removed to squeeze feet under front seat (shoes must go in the trunk, or in a bag on the 4th seat). 6 foot is the limit for the rear head room touching the glass, and both passengers will have zero extra knee room. It's an incredible design to achieve so much with so little space. I hope those serious about vehicles have learned by now to go elsewhere for the actual facts from truly experienced drivers who understand and know how to fully use the many brilliant auto engineers' creations, combined with market-wide feedback using real world conditions.

No, it's not a Japanese thing (the handle). My 2017 Honda Civic doesn't do this.

I own a 2020 Toyota 86 GT and I love my car! I don't feel any mid-range torque dips when driving it. It has plenty of power in my opinion with just a K&N air filter.

That's great to know! That also means it shouldn't have the big carbon fouling issues that most DI engines have. Toyota really came up with an brilliant idea with their multi injection.

Yeah, I was surprised Doug didn’t point that out. Maybe it got cut in editing?

@@ZachAlanPhotography plenty of manufacturers use multi injection fuel systems...

@Kan Jo No one asked you, spammer

@@johnmeza955 yeah but Toyota has been doing it since the early/mid 2000s when DI became common, they had the right idea from the beginning then other manufacturers learned and followed suit

As a guy who does all his own work in his driveway, looking at the engine bay of a supra or 400z gives me nightmares. I’ve kept my 13 FRS up and running easily, and the new one looks to be more of the same. It’s a dead simple car. Love it. I dont have the skill to deal with those faster cars, but i also dont want a corolla.

The Base Mustang and base Camaro have significantly more horsepower, and both are even cheaper than this car, but they're bigger and heavier car. In reality, horsepower is cheap, lightweight is expensive.

I have a Supra and am thinking of trading for this. I build drift cars for fun, and I refuse to mess with the Supra because it’s so complex. I also used to have a HR 350Z drift car and I can’t imagine how impossible it will be to work on the 400Z with the same size engine bay with two turbos added on…

I like that it's N/A as well, but not for the same reasons. Simply, I like the power delivery of a N/A engine.

@@AkioWasRight The base Mustang and Camaro also don’t have their engines as ankle height where putting a turbo in would require a vast redesign of the car, a stronger frame, and a bigger differential. Besides those cars are in a different class of sports car from the BRZ. Have you noticed that there are almost no more small, compact, affordable sports cars anymore? Most of them got priced out of existence. Even a new Miata can run as high as $40k which is the BRZ’s direct competitor. The new BRZ is the perfect car for a young first time car buyer and that’s the demographic Subaru and Toyota are trying to reach with this car

Looks like a 9th gen Honda Civic lol.

exactly, that rear end looks like a Genesis and like a butt from the side

Yep

I kinda adore the kissaki style rear end on this one. It’s a lot cleaner looking. However, I did think it was a civic at first. Idk why this design is appearing on other cars.

Looks like a goddamn Opel Astra

Very High chance that I'm getting this for my first car! For what it offers, 28k is super reasonable price!

@@akaa3144 For sure in this market you cannot beat the price at all. Its not a fast stoplight to stoplight car, but wow will it handle some curves even in stock form. :)

Ik, 28k for 228 hp, 2.4 Litter, amazing!

Thanks for sharing. I've had 5-speed Mustangs for 30 years (Mustang Sally here ;), but due to issues with Ford's service/warranty (dealerships have had no service appts. or rentals for 2 years and I have an extended warranty), I'm looking at other options which is a bit depressing. I would prefer to go new again, so the 2023 BRZ Limited would totally work out money-wise as I'm paying cash. I'm used to my uncomfortable V6, but it looks nicer inside and out IMO. I'm worried about the BRZ having less power, requiring 93 octane, and having no option for leather seats. I really wish the interior looked more like a Mustang's and then maybe I would just go for it. Enjoy your new ride!

@@oceansdeserts4446 If you are coming from a V6 Stang, you are going to notice some of that missing torque. Though the BRZ is going to make it up with being a lighter car. In today's world SUVs and some Sedans will try to run you over at stoplights. They see sporty car and think you are going to take off at every light. I do have to say again, taking curves in this car is phenomenal! The only other car I could compare the handling to is a Miata, BUT honestly I think the BRZ gives more driver confidence. For the price I would say its a good value in how crazy the market is. The boxer engine for sure is not the smoothest running engine and sounds terrible when it does its cold start cycle. LOL Once it gets up to temp though the engine sounds fine. We agree with you on the leather seats. Would have been better than the Suede, but the seats are not bad. I am worried about how long the seats will last from grabbing/rubbing them when getting in and out.The biggest issue is watching your foot when trying to get in and out of the car. You end up hitting the upper part of the door sill or the door itself. We put on the GR86 spoiler (black) on our white BRZ and it looks even better. :D

Great catch!! Simply he doesn't know. He's not that educated on the things that matter the most, detail.

@@ThatWasPrettyFunny didn't notice the most obvious....

@@ThatWasPrettyFunny he is literally known to make the dumbest statements and mistakes now...he doesnt do details properly.

@@ThatWasPrettyFunny Yea but they're the most useless things to pick up. Like that door handle or the blank button. He always notices the things from which he can pick on manufactures. But tbf he does sometimes notice Easter eggs like these.

@@jongordon7914 true! Just not this detail.

What’s wrong with the WRX?

@@santaslayer1013 nothing, maybe the rear bumper but the aftermarket goin go crazy. People said the same about the 2015 wrx when it came out

@@santaslayer1013 everything. except the engine maybe

@@santaslayer1013 The new WRX is very ugly if you haven't seen it.

It's because it's Toyota's car, Subaru just build it for them. Subaru are incapable of designing something this good

It’s not enough to say man I really want that car.

In his defence. In 2013 the twins got a score in relation to the current times and competition Now the new twins got a score in relation to the current times' competition etc.... For example 7 sec to 100 on a lamborghini countach.... Fast in 1980s Slow in 2024

Copied from the Nissan 370Z

John Davis from Motorweek used to complain about the lack of the volt meter, oil pressure gauge, and oil temperature gauge back in the 1980s.

I dont think thats really impressive for todays standards

Dutch Bros baristas? Lol

2017+ (mid cycle refresh) with the MID gauge had oil temp as well. They realized these things overheat like fuck. They need an oil cooler stock, just to drive spiritedly for any decent length of time

He forgot something simple as usual. This channel is nothing but entertainment with a smidge of educational value

Why would “sport/snow” mode button only be for the automatic BRZ? They could easily put "sports/snow" mode on the manual BRZ as well.

He leaves alot of things like this out on his videos, the research has been lacking alot lately it seems.

@@automation7295 that mode changes transmission behavior which doesn't apply to a manual

@@automation7295 because all snow ❄️ mode does is change gear shifting points ! And the reason it is not in the manual is Autos have shift points and obviously manuals don’t !! He is correct though that’s what the Auto has

How is there no yellow!?

buy one and wrap it in yellow

@@williebrown1974 for 2017 only 500 Subaru BRZ Series Yellow models will be sold in the U.S. Canada will get only 120 of the bright yellow coupes badged as the Inazuma Edition, which derives its name from the Japanese word for lightning.

@@tone3560 true, but the interior had the black and yellow theme with blacked out exterior emblems. Only 500 of them produced. Imo the best color edition Subaru came out with for the BRZ.

bmw's version was fine, click once to turn on, click again to stop, you figure it out in 10 seconds.

@@Krappyappy bmw has turn signals????

@@marcosneto9412 I think they're an extremely pricey option no one adds.

@@stevencamp1 woosh

Tesla's is fine too.

Amen brother! No more SUVs

How was it like to car camp in that little Subaru of yours 😅

Came here to post exactly every point you have - thanks for saving me time! LOVE my every-day-even-winter-in-Massachusetts 2019 BRZ Series.Gray (with Perf Pack) and I'm NEVER letting it go!

man i got your concern loud and clear :(

To be honest I was a little disappointed with how people are asking more power from a vehicle that was an homage to the AE86, which was a car perfect for mountain/windy roads, where power isn't always needed. Just like a Miata, this one ain't for straight line fun, this vehocle is for the twisty mountain roads.

A 4 door accord 2.0t is faster still

@@livingaboard and that car will impress absolutely no one

@@xXxUrbanNinjaxXx I can't argue against that at all.

@@xXxUrbanNinjaxXx it will impress them once it beats the brz

@@rodneyburke2202 🤣

Also Doug (to literally any production car) : *Value : 7*

I never watch the doug score section xD

Even though the DougScore seems ridiculous, I still watch it

That OG PlayStation avatar

Yeah, already a ton of 86 reviews

Smaller channels picking Toyota version over BRZ mainly to get on the good side with Toyota so Toyota send them more review cars in the future. Doug is big enough so he doesn't care about that.

@Capsized Cloud hahaha have fun fixing the head gaskets My 4Runner will smoke this any day

@Capsized Cloud lmao you can’t be serious, Subaru is the worst Japanese automaker, worse than Nissan.

@Capsized Cloud i thing the joke was that even an suv would smoke that sports car, at least on a straight

What a coincidence that Doug said the exact same thing.

Brace for people saying 228hp is still not enough

@@TheHidalgo99 I always thought the 150 lb-ft was too low in the original. About 200 would be about ideal for a car this size, but 185 is darn close and a huge improvement.

@@haziqhashim2618 I don't think it's supposed to be "enough". I think that when this car was first developed, they were hoping this car would be modified by the owner.

Stfu tune, e85 and headers make this thing go for cheap

LMAO XD XD XD

Doug will be Doug, trippy

I think the score is in relation to its current time and competitors Otherwise cars would be hitting 10 too easily

Good point!

I always thought it was crazy to not give these cars around 230 HP.

@@brosef4154 We had far more faster feeling cars with less power. We had Celicas of 6th and 7th generations that done better 0-60 times with 170 and 180 hp repsectovely oit of 6th gens 2.0 3s-ge and 1.8 2zz in 7th gen and they felt far more viceral and fast. Its from the way car builds power and torque and sensation of speed from how low you sit. It doesnt mean its bad to gove it more power now, but if they done it right 1st gen would feel much better with its fa20 unraveling power and torque more evenly and sooner in the rev range. One thing i dislike myself about fa20 is how badly it sounds compared to FB20B or older EJ20 motors. Dunno if its due to direct injection but well...

@@Kacpa2 yes, it was the switch from DI to port injection in the mid range that killed all the torque. Power can be gained in the middle of RPM range just by tuning the DI to port injection switch, and upgrading injectors. I think same still applies to this one. There's still a dip in the middle.

@@Kacpa2 fake engine noise tube and equal length headers. ej motor had unequal length headers which was also a source of unreliability by leaving one of the cylinders running hotter than the others.

@@no1washerezz EJ20 naturallyaspirated motors were equal length too, FB20B too but it has port fuel inhection still

Couldn't agree more.

Still slower than an s2000 so it’s not everything I want in a 2 seat lol. I don’t see anyone dethroning the s2k anytime soon. Although I do envy the cup holders

@@TheBigChad well you can actually buy a brz while good s2000s are almost unattainable for the average guy, the brz has much more space and modern off course but in terms of driving very few can come close to the s2k

@@anandpushkar7510 idk I got my 2006 ap2 with 52,000 miles for under 20k in 2018 lol. I paid just over 16k for it. Right now tho that same mileage would fetch 25k

@@TheBigChad good for you man , a deal like that would be a steal today due to skyrocketing used car prices , I was looking at a silver stock one with 27k miles for around 42k , although that one was in great shape

It is a 4 seat car. Western sized persons treat as 2 seat because they are too big trying to fit in this car which is made by a Japanese car company and initially for the Japanese sized people. Lol. You will fit just fine in mustangs and dodges though lmao.

agreed, I think headers and tune will be enough to get it there. It would be nice if it was 250 from factory though :/

enjoy it while you can- mtm's are going away rapidly.

EVs will kill that, they will kill all the fun with cars

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Nissan may have hit the nail on the head with the new Z. But price TBD will decide if it will compete. Twin turbo V6 does not sound affordable friendly. This may once again compete against itself, in the affordable sports car class.

The Z is ment to compete withe the Porsche cayman and Toyota Supra

Give him a Break! He only had a few minutes to review the onscreen brochure!🧐

Yep, it was a bit of a lazy review.

And the fact he's 6'4 makes it worse

@@admiralackbar4652 that’s fair. I just don’t think it’s up the usual Doug standard.

@@admiralackbar4652 True. I just wish Doug made a better review of my car (that I feel is a car icon) rather than a 100k sport SUV that nobody cares about.

i usually don't watch Doug reviews, but youtube kept recommending this one so I did holy crap was this full of mistakes. The engine is based on a Subaru sure, but it has Toyota's dual-port injection system, and the tuning was done in combination. So saying it's mainly a subaru engine and discounting Toyota's contribution is kind of stupid, when that is the reason why this engine compared to the last will probably be more reliable, and also makes power more reliably, and with less of a torque dip. The double bubble "for taller people" comment just made me roll my eyes. It is so obviously for racing helmets its painful

He probably could convince you to buy a Dodge Stratus so be carful.

Haha same!

@@peppapigthekiller7539 hah, "carful" I see what you did there

Well said

Mee too😂

Exactly I think this motor is perfect and if you look at the car objectively and don't compare it to others you'll be truly satisfied with how it drives

I’ll be throwing a turbo in it when I receive mine lol

@@iamtheone2292 u know u need more than just a turbo right?

@@takumifujiwara2083 no shit

May wanna try a GT350.. V8 8250rpm magneride

this is the kind of thing you can't unsee once you see it for the first time

rear looks like a civic now

No. What is “old school” about this?! Please explain how this car makes sense when you can buy a V8 Camaro or Mustang for $6k more. The only reason that this car appeals to someone is because they have some loyalty to import cars, the Toyota or Subaru brands, or they just want to be different, and don’t want to be a Mustang driver. Any objective juman that test drives this and a Mustang GT back to back would GLADLY spend the extra $6k for the same cornering and handling, and OVER DOUBLE the power and about three times the torque.

@@alphazuluz you do know there are other markets where not everyone can afford to run 6.0l V8s everyday 🙃 you Americans are spoiled with cheap petrol man

@@alphazuluz lol

@@alphazuluz v8 fanboy more power, less brain

@@alphazuluz Not everyone wants a Camaro or Mustang. They're penis cars, nothing more.

Same! I personally love an NA motor

Nissan Z - twin turbo V6, and not going to be expensive

@@lightdp New Nissan Z will be $35,000 usd. How is that 3 times the cost?

@@lightdp Well, I am in Japan, and the majority of people talking here are definitely not from Indonesia. I am sorry you live in a country with such high taxes, but that is not the "majority" of people who will buy this car

@@sonicsabbath I know, just giving you some other perspective.

It looks like a mini Lexus RC

@@notmarcel2175 right! I was looking for this comment to make sure I wasn't the only one

I have a 2000 Toyota solara coup and it was designed very conservatively back in the day. It's aged gracefully over the last 20 years and probably has 20 years still left on its life. It's been 20 years and the tail lights aren't even faded. And the front lights are barely faded so I'm going to replace them

@@TheAnnoyingBoss those cars are bulletproof

@@meyou3772 sure are brother. I'm debating selling mine but on the other hand it's such a nice old car to have around. It's the 2.2 liter 4 cylinder so it's a non-interference engine.last year the timing belt went and we just had it replaced. Only things that broke on it after all these years is the drivers seat forward and back stopped working. Luckily it stopped right at the perfect spot for me. Debating fixing it so if I do sell it it's not a problem for the next guy. That and the windshield washer pump recently went. Other than that I just need to change some fluids, throw on a new serpintine belt and pullies, and she'll be ready to go for another decade. So I want to keep it, but if someone offered me the right amount of money I'd say goodbye if I had too just because I'm kinda a motorcycle guy anyway.

true

😂😂😂😂😂

You've been tricked by Subaru/Toyota marketing people. If you look at a dyno graph of the 1st gen, you'll see it had almost as much torque around 3k as its peak torque. The low end torque was never the problem, the problem was always the deep "torque dip" in the middle. The new engine still has the dip, but it's not as deep, and its lowest point is still above peak torque of the first gen. Similarly, the peak torque of the 2nd gen in the ~3500 rpm zone isn't much higher than the torque plateau around 6k.

hell yeah

GR Yaris isn’t available in North America and the TRD Camry is a V6 Camry with a body kit and an exhaust hardly sporty same with the Avalon TRD look at dougs reviews

Toyota has no soul or character anymore and their designs suck. Long gone are the days of the MR2, Supra, Celica, IS300 and SC300/400

@@f181234 The real detail about the TRD Camry is that the V6 was only available with a more fancier leather interior. The cheap interior was only for the 4 cylinder engines. What they did was stiffer suspension, body kit and 4 cylinder interior with a V6 engine. Basically weight reduction by downgrading the interior, lol.

honestly just noticed this too, bugs the shit out of me now. like he is talking to a 2 year old on a kids show lol. "i am big boy not baby"

@@ethanhowley5843 haha.

It’s like he can’t control his movements lol. Annoying as shit

@Karl Horne Only difference is his is sooooo annoying and Scotty Kilmer’s isn’t to me for some reason

@@silenciummortum2193 couldn’t agree more!

I felt the same way. I considered the FRS a few times but I always felt like the FRS/BRZ wasn't truly complete. These new ones look more finished and look like they will age nicely. And I'm glad they fixed the low torque band issue from the older ones.

I think we can all agree that the extra power is a welcome change, though. I was never a person to whine and say "oH iT nEeDs MoRe PoWeR", but the people who buy this car i'm sure will be happy for the extra power. From memory, it's an extra 18kW.

Seems like most who bought this car thought it has issues with drag, since endless body kits and large spoilers. I'm sure bolting all that plastic on just made them slower.

The motor in the previous gen sounded like shit and was gutless.

@@jamestorrens645 The main difference is the torque curve, the last one had a massive dip between 3-4k rpm which made the car feel slow, now its almost completely gone, combine that with the extra torque and hp its the perfect car for me

@@Smellslikegelfling I bet you don't like people who still own the previous gen.

Wtf? Bro your totally right, why is he so careful 😂

@@tannermorgan9796 right, graceful luxurious moves 💪

Yes I've seen him do that in previous videos too. It's just something that he does

The devil is in the details. Doing it too fast would attract attention to the finger, which is not where you want it, you want to place attention where the finger is pointing up. Nice catch though, I didn't notice either.

He moves his finger around the same way a mouse cursor moves in professional software tutorial videos. It gets kinda dirty when he touches the gear knobs tho 🤣

No. They didn’t have a factory turbo as an option.

The older Scion TC had a factory turbo as a dealer installed option, not the FRS.

@@jeffruebens8355 this I never knew about. Most that do this usually offers supercharger

Have you ever tried drifting with the pedal e brake?😂I've got one in my car but I don't wanna try it

@@tati-anaroseee4316 I think TheStraightPipes tried to do that in one video.

I don't want it to be gone for the simplicity of it and the fact that doesn't need an electric motor to work, hence depending on battery to operate, which is, in my POV, a major security flow.

Exactly, do you know how stupid I sound going "bro i need to replace the motor and sensor so my parking brake will work again" Like, IT'S JUST A CABLE MAN CMON

@@profiigate1357 A cable can snap as well, old-school parking brakes can still break. Why do people think that cables never snap? Everything can break no matter it's electronic or mechanical. So people only complain when electronics break, but never complain when mechanics breaks? Also why do people only complain about electronics in cars, but never complain about electronics in their own houses?

They obviously didn’t know their audience for the WRX lol.

@@riley4198 LMAOO. They need a new EVO for competition

maybe a E92 BMW door handle that you could easily get a coat hanger around, what object could you easily manipulate that handle with it being so ensconced in the door panel? it’s just lazy toyota parts bin specials once again

I've never been in a car where opening the handle unlocked the door when it had a that kind of toggle lock. I'm sure it's out there and I'd expect someone like Doug to know better then me but it felt really wrong to me.

@@davidjobe2268 my e39 does it, though you might be right about the toggle switch style.

@@davidjobe2268 Mazda's do just that, with just about the same design door handle and lock latch

It's also a safety feature, so that driver or passenger won't accidentally open a door from the inside while the vehicle is in motion.

My thoughts exactly lol, wondering if this model was missing some things since it’s for show? Not sure.

yes there's now storage there as they've cheapened the car by not putting in a spare tire and wheel.

@@meathead585 good eye

Doug is the best car reviewer PERIOD

@@yungboicontigo9278 is there a war between Lexus boys and demuro that im unaware of😂