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The New Creality Ender-3 S1 Review!

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BV3D: Bryan Vines

BV3D: Bryan Vines

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Hello, 3D Printing friends! The Ender-3 product line continues to evolve, and today we're going to take a look at the NEW Creality Ender-3 S1! Big thanks to Pergear for sending this for review!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Opening
00:56 Printer Specifications
03:00 Box Contents
04:09 Assembly Overview
04:59 Auto-Leveling and Z Offset
07:29 First Print
09:26 Creality Slicer Overview
11:39 Feature Tests
13:11 Safety Checks
16:21 Print Examples
19:15 Dislikes
21:00 Likes
22:33 Closing

Пікірлер: 368
@dingdingdingdiiiiing
@dingdingdingdiiiiing 2 жыл бұрын
The filament runout sensor works absolutely perfect, however after power loss recovery the printer destroys the build plate, gains consciousness and connects to the neural net via starlink, then plots to kill all humans. So that's a bit of a downside.
@therizinosaurus214
@therizinosaurus214 Жыл бұрын
I was rolling
@dawsonkozel4171
@dawsonkozel4171 Жыл бұрын
Had me on the first part
@miguelfaro6259
@miguelfaro6259 Жыл бұрын
Do you know if it has been fixed by now?
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary. Try a different SDcard. That could be the issue with power loss recovery just in case they are still doing a ReadWrite after every layer.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chuck! I'll give that a shot. It seemed weird that it was able to finish the layer it was working on when I turned it off, but as soon as it finished it, down it went. I think I'll try it on a tall, hollow cylinder, and let it get up around 10cm before power cycling it, so I have a better chance of cutting power if it decides to take another dive.
@timothyvo3749
@timothyvo3749 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D please let us know how that second test goes👍
@ChrumkavySuchar
@ChrumkavySuchar 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D similar funky issues in the past were able to solve even with formatting the SD card with correctly created MBR table. Oh I just checked and you even have video for that matter =D . So yeah, probably incorrectly formatted SD card from the factory.
@bobbydigital9323
@bobbydigital9323 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a collaboration video with CHEP and BV3D :)
@Bfyobrian12
@Bfyobrian12 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, my Ender 3 V2 does strange things occasionally that are seemingly related to the SD card/file naming. For instance, prints used to start at something like 500% speed and I believe I narrowed the issue down to the way files were named (omitting the CE3PRO title from Cura exported file names seemed to solve the issue). I also run into weird issues when changing z-height after a print without homing, such as the extruder retracting something like 100 mm all of a sudden.
@BhutJolokias
@BhutJolokias 2 жыл бұрын
After 3 years with a heavily modified Gen 1 Ender 3, I upgraded to the S1 last week. I am thoroughly impressed after only 4 days of use. I was never able to print ABS very well with my Ender 3, but am already producing ABS prints on the S1 that are darn near flawless.
@rsorez329
@rsorez329 2 жыл бұрын
Do you print in an enclosure? Would you share some printing parameters?
@BhutJolokias
@BhutJolokias 2 жыл бұрын
@@rsorez329 It's semi-enclosed with a little gap at the bottom. I have it in a wall unit in my hobby room. Hard to share settings as each filament is unique. Cooling fan is off, nozzle is at 235 C, print bed at 100 C. I also used MagicGoo on the bed which I suspect is the biggest change.
@rsorez329
@rsorez329 2 жыл бұрын
@@BhutJolokias Thanks, 235 C-so not really trying to go beyond that treshold bocause of the PTFE tube? Some say it melts at about 240 C. It's a pitty that they designed the new direct drive unit with the tube, I migt be wrong, but isn't the micro swiss direct drive one, designed better on that regard?
@BhutJolokias
@BhutJolokias 2 жыл бұрын
@@rsorez329 Capricorn tubing lets you go a bit higher. It lets you try higher temps to experiment with. It's worth trying. The first thing I did was put Capricorn tube in mine.
@WhatAboutRC
@WhatAboutRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@rsorez329 You can also put capricorn tubing just near the hotend. Thats what i ended up doing as i dont like the restrictions of the smaller id of the capricorn. And in all fairness ive printed up to 260 with PTFE and its been fine.
@ScottLahteine
@ScottLahteine 2 жыл бұрын
I love the reverse footage on the contents of the box. That was a nice touch.
@wittworks
@wittworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great. Cheers from San Antonio. I just got my 3v2 up and running. Heavily depended on you and chep.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from (probably) across town! I'm glad you got the V2 going! Happy to help, and Happy Holidays!
@wittworks
@wittworks 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D so helpful. Shortened the learning curve a ton. Used to live in Helotes. Now I’m downtown. Glad to see a successful KZfaq from San Antonio! I just got started this year.
@justinrobinson1162
@justinrobinson1162 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that Allen wrench toss at 3:15 was amazing
@tigerzero5216
@tigerzero5216 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought when I saw that. I don't thing anyone could repeat that well placed layout from a hand toss.
@OnePotMeals
@OnePotMeals 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation on setting the Z offset! Thank you
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
looks like they added the spool runout sensor and integrated autoleveling to make a very compelling printer more compelling
@BradClarke
@BradClarke 2 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of watching some of your videos with my wife. Now I have a honey-do list of 3D printed vases and dragons :) I told her I can't print the super tall items without a new 3D printer...we'll see how that goes :) On the bright side, I received 6 rolls of filament from my wife and mother-in-law for Christmas. But seriously, where can I find or buy the STL for the vase? I just purchased the Reciprocal Vase you highlighted in your Longer LK5 video.
@josephinring
@josephinring 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very thorough and informative. When you tested the thermal runaway safety feature by unplugging the heater cartridge you only confirmed that there was a low temperature alarm, you did not check if the printer shut off power to the heater or if it continued attempting to heat the hot end despite the alarm, that is very important to test. You should confirm with a multimeter that the voltage to the heater is zero after the alarm and also repeat the test by unplugging the thermocouple to simulate a thermocouple failure. Thanks.
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 2 жыл бұрын
*spoiler* you already know this, Bryan and I'm way out of touch w/ the new TFT screen printers & how Marlin behaves on them. If it's Marlin-based and supported, you could always issue something like: M190 S[bed temp you use] G28 G29 P4 M500 M140 S0 M84 Then after G28 in your start code add M420 S1 Z3 to load the last mesh and set it to fade out compensation after 5mm. Leave off Z3 if they didn't compile that option into the firmware.
@GnuReligion
@GnuReligion 2 жыл бұрын
Two things I see: 1. There appear to be only 4 stepper drivers ... so the Z-screws are not independently controlled. Still cannot sensor-tram the X gantry left and right. 2. The extruder's pancake stepper, a heavy part, is placed far from the mounting point, bringing the center of mass of the assembly forward.
@ScottLahteine
@ScottLahteine 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason to turn off the bed heater during probing is to prevent noise from the PWM signal messing with the probe reading. If the probe is reliabe and consistent when heaters are still turned on, then the feature that disables the heaters during probing ought to be disabled. That said, even with the feature enabled, the bed heater should only be off during the brief period while the probe is moving down towards the bed, and not throughout the whole process. So, that seems like a custom modification by Creality.
@tigerzero5216
@tigerzero5216 2 жыл бұрын
12:06 The power outage recovery test. (It will never work. Just get a good UPS in place, problem solved.) First. The re-home after power outage is the BIG fail in my opinion of the power out recovery. I did not see it use the print head mounted Z sensor to confirm where the bed is. Maybe it used the Z home switch? Second and I think this is a big point as to why it will never work. Let's assume it does manage to reposition correctly. The project end point is now cold. Probably miss formed. So how is the hot end going to lay down/attach a clean hot strand of filament to a cold end well enough that on the next pass over that,, weld,, will not cause a problem? In my opinion. If you have a power outage during a print, it is best to trash it and start over when the power is back.
@cschmelzer83
@cschmelzer83 2 жыл бұрын
The bed cooling problem during ABL can likely be fixed with some GCODE. I was able to do it with my BLTouch on my E3Pro
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sounds like it’ll be a neat perfect printer once Jyers is released for it.
@Robin-Visser
@Robin-Visser 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like they asked jyers for this printer
@Mcfly77777
@Mcfly77777 2 жыл бұрын
Marlin just had a release that includes Jyers as well as support for this board!
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe 2 жыл бұрын
Can't you just use the Ender 3 V2 jyers firmware (jyers did a UI mod there to match the default firmware right?) and combine that with the crtouch, filament sensor and extruder config from the S1? Should be no more than an evening of copying over config values.
@sebastianestevezcarvajal3008
@sebastianestevezcarvajal3008 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing that creality has made it include a direct drive extruder to they printers and the auto bed leveling amazing I'm in love with it.
@jeff3575davison
@jeff3575davison 2 жыл бұрын
haven't yet watched the entire vid..... but will Jyers firmawre work with this?
@EvilWiffles
@EvilWiffles 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ender has some along way. I'm almost tempted to ditch my old Ender 3 but I already have linear rails and a Hemera with a BLtouch setup. This one just looks less janky.
@WhatAboutRC
@WhatAboutRC 2 жыл бұрын
The Ender 3 V2 seems like a massive leap forward for me from the old ender 3. This just seems like it shouldnt even be called an ender 3.
@BrandonsYouTube
@BrandonsYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent and thorough review! I bought an Ender 3 V2 based on your video when it first came out and I believe I may be upgrading to this one. This has a lot of upgrades that I would love.
@seansweeten8803
@seansweeten8803 2 жыл бұрын
If you wish to upgrade to the spirit head then you will have to upgrade the main as well. They are different boards.
@trelauney
@trelauney 2 жыл бұрын
Wait 14:38 Wait... Should the Ender 3 V2 be powered by the usb port? I set up octoprint on a Jetson Nano, and it bugged me enough that the Ender's screen wouldn't turn off (read: Screen on, Jetson on, Ender UNPLUGGED) that I compiled a utility to disable usb power ...it could not drive the motors, and threw errors when I tried to heat the bed, but the screen/ dial still operated
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, a lot of printers have the +5v line on their USB ports connected, though they probably shouldn't. It causes the exact issue you describe. There are passthrough devices you can use to prevent this from occurring, such as Brian Lough's USB Power B-Lough-R (his last name is pronounced "Block"). These can be had for about $7 USD from TH3D Studio or other resellers. Interestingly, I exploit that issue as a way to test thermal protection, because the USB port is enough to keep the printer's mainboard and screen running, but nowhere near powerful enough to run the nozzle or bed heater. So on printers with mainboards that can be powered that way, I can turn the printer's power supply on and also connect a USB power source. Then I can set the nozzle to 200˚C, and once it's at temperature, I can turn off the printer's power supply. The USB power will keep the screen and mainboard running, but the nozzle temperature will start dropping, and if the printer has the thermal safety features enabled, it'll throw an error.
@FounderOf4
@FounderOf4 Жыл бұрын
Great review... I just purchased a 3 S1 for the same price of a V2 and am soaking up all of the knowledge about that KZfaq has to offer. Thanks for the great content BV3D
@CorinShadowblayde
@CorinShadowblayde 2 жыл бұрын
I own an Ender-3 that I have made tons of mods to over the last 2+ years. My son owns a v2, and I was really impressed by the stock differences, and we have barely done any mods (all things I already had lying around). I may get one of these.
@fanplant
@fanplant 2 жыл бұрын
Is that sd card reader they include for micro SD? Also it's interesting that the list of machines in the slicer already has an Ender-3 S1 PRO !!
@dtibor5903
@dtibor5903 2 жыл бұрын
No, that's for normal SD card, you insert the card from the side
@fanplant
@fanplant 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtibor5903 I agree and re watched and you're correct the large slot is on the side. I swear it says microSDXC below SDXC??
@edwinvanderhulst7703
@edwinvanderhulst7703 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished my upgrades on the E3V2 this evening (runout sensor was last) and now you show me the E3S1 with all those upgrades :-))))) Looks very nice and more slick indeed. Nice to see Creality pitches in with a fun moment to get that good humor note in the video with the recovery on power loss routine. Great explanation and video as always Brian. Its videos like this from Chuck, Angus and you to got me addicted to 3d Printers.
@KevinBennett9698
@KevinBennett9698 2 жыл бұрын
First time watching the channel, I really enjoyed it! Looking forward to getting my 3D printer in a couple of weeks.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you, and welcome aboard! 👍
@PipiPopiPop
@PipiPopiPop 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Bryan :) Thanks to you and your previous video I successfully build my Ender 3 V2 a year ago. It still works perfect! With your clear instructions and good video angles you got me into 3d printing. Thank you! :)
@vicnelson6277
@vicnelson6277 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one and your comments and info was very helpful Thank you!!
@walts440
@walts440 2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased this 3D printer. Its a a great machine and I'm very happy I did.
@Vorath81
@Vorath81 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to get honest reviews of 3d printers before I buy my first one... this video was immensely helpful, as were some of the comments, especially regarding power loss/recovery. (The comment about using a UPS is brilliant). Your straight-forward explanations and examples along the way were, to one unexperienced with the trials and tribulations of configuring these devices, absolutely perfect and understandable. Super happy that this video all-but-solidifies my choice, but most importantly helped to temper some expectations I had, being a tech geek for the last 35 years but not getting into 3d printing until now. I loved some of the models and filament choices in this video and can see how much I'm going to love getting into this and introducing my pre-teen STEM loving kid to this along with me (and likely a honey-do list of cool things my wife decides she wants as well). Im rambling but again, thank you so So much for this review video, and for what will likely be a lot of hours going through many other videos on your channel.
@garethrosey
@garethrosey 2 жыл бұрын
I had a slight panic then! Only 3 days I watched your 3 V2 unboxing video which made my mind and I ordered 1 2 days ago! Then this pops up on my feed and I hoped I hadn't ordered the wrong one. I was glad to see it mostly just upgrades that could if needed be done to the v2! 👍
@fabratmti
@fabratmti 2 жыл бұрын
After having a CR6SE with the solid mounted bed, I really wish Creality would stay with the solid bed with future printers. I get the knobs are for fine tuning the leveling, but the CR6 does an amazing job at leveling with the solid bed, and both the S1 and the CR6 come with stock ABL. In my opinion, this thing is just a direct drive version of the CR6 with a USB-C port, the old style bed leveling and non-touch screen, for the same price.
@creepinonthebabes
@creepinonthebabes 2 жыл бұрын
i have the CR10 smart :) like it
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 2 жыл бұрын
My E3V2 with upgraded springs, CR touch and Jyers, bed levels beautifully. I just hit print.
@Offcut55
@Offcut55 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid once more! You are so easy to understand. You have helped this newbie lots. Thanks
@markm49
@markm49 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered one today - my E3V2 has been amazing so really looking forward to this one.
@MyFoot
@MyFoot 2 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for laughing at the power recovery thing. its like it was throwing a tantrum. as for the rest of the issues. The fan noise i think is an issue with all creality printers, there's a reason its listed as an upgrade in a lot of peoples build. Even yours. the temperature is a weird one, particularly the turning off of the bed during leveling. If i didnt already have a v2, and wasnt looking at upgrading to a ratrig soon. Id probably pick one up.
@marathoncamera
@marathoncamera 2 жыл бұрын
To keep the bed hot during leveling should be a simple tweak to the initial G code in Cura? I made the change for my Ender 3 V2 and it stays hot while leveling.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of fans Creality uses have declined over the years, I have an Ender 2 that has nearly 4 years on the clock and although the fans are noisy they have not failed unlike the super noisy board fan on one of my 2 Ender 5 Plus machines whose bearings decided to eat themselves and the heat fried the USB chip, because of this I have changed the board fans on all my Chinese printers for quality quiet ones
@3dprintnewbiemilan558
@3dprintnewbiemilan558 2 жыл бұрын
Answered every question I had running through my head Bryan and I think the S1 will become a member of our little Ender family. Great video once again thanks.
@jimmartin5180
@jimmartin5180 20 күн бұрын
I'm looking for a little help. I'm trying to flash my s1 back to stock after removing it from a sonic pad. I've tried all the firmware options from crwality and can't seem to get it flashed. Display is stuck on the splash screen so I can't tell if the board firmware is loading or even working.
@chrislmink
@chrislmink 2 жыл бұрын
Brian another great video as always, I've been waiting for a review on this printer, and I'm really impressed by it. Like you said the over all look of it is pretty cool. I already have the v2 but was wanting to know if it worth doing the upgrades myself or just buying the S1. I may try to sell my V2 and then buy it. Again thanks for the video.
@ultima8250
@ultima8250 2 жыл бұрын
Which would you recommend, the S1 or the Sidewinder X2? Or maybe the new S1 Pro vs SW-X2?
@MasonJarMassey
@MasonJarMassey 2 жыл бұрын
You earned my like with "With further a don't". Excellent? 😂
@t-roy1605
@t-roy1605 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers. Your videos are amazing.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Aw, thank you! 😊
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4-5 divots like that in my old E3 flex mat thanks to Marlin's linear advance gcode website last year. I didn't have an advanced end gcode to raise the nozzle several mm before turning the motors off.
@paulcumber4732
@paulcumber4732 2 жыл бұрын
have a merry christmas bv3d and happy new year
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Paul! Merry Christmas to you, too!
@metalgearbas4
@metalgearbas4 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking for a upgrade/companion for my E3Pro, it's been awesome but there are a few things that I'd like to have, like auto-leveling & a silent mainboard that I'm scared to install on the e3pro. Don't fix what isn't broken I suppose, but another printer to add to the arsenal would definitely be welcome, so this looks like a likely candidate. Thanks for the great review!
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it still has a ptfe tubed hotend. And now it seems harder to upgrade to a genuine v6
@willbrown9291
@willbrown9291 2 жыл бұрын
If you still have the V2, I would like to see the 2 printers have some sort of print off challenge.
@3dprint4u
@3dprint4u 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review, will get my new S1 on tuesday. Looking forward to that :)
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear it!
@katesimpson7721
@katesimpson7721 2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth upgrading from a mostly stock v2 for this? Was planning on selling the v2 and getting an s1 since it has a lot of mods I was going to do anyway
@MikeBramm
@MikeBramm 2 жыл бұрын
At 16:14, the display shows "Nozzle is too lowperature". They need to change that to "Nozzle temperature is too low" or "Nozzle temperature error".
@z83rulek
@z83rulek 2 жыл бұрын
It probably came from the chinglish cuz its made by china
@MikeBramm
@MikeBramm 2 жыл бұрын
@@z83rulek Probably. But if you're going to make an English version, spend the time to get it right. If you can't do it internally, hire a translator.
@Chilimustard
@Chilimustard 2 жыл бұрын
My main question is will it be compatible with the ender extender 400x400 system?
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
I expect that to depend on what changes need to be made to vanilla Marlin to make it work. It's a new board, so the board definition (or a pins file?) will be needed. But with that, you can edit the source code to set the X, Y, and Z max values, probably. Hopefully Creality will release the Marlin source. They SHOULD, it's probably just a matter of when.
@Chilimustard
@Chilimustard 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D Awesome, thanks for the insight. This new printer basically has all the upgrades I already want, and if I could go large format for cosplay stuff, it would be perfect.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chilimustard If it wasn't a new board, it would probably be easier to build a config in Marlin (or JyersUI). But I haven't seen this particular board before.
@3dman875
@3dman875 Жыл бұрын
i have a new ender 3 s1 coming i really enjoy your your video today thanks for making it i learned a lot more about my new 3d printer
@GeomancerHT
@GeomancerHT Жыл бұрын
Unless I'm missing something, why would you want to set either the bed or the nozzle to 5 Celsius? and again, if your room temp is not 5 C, that won't happen...
@markopolvi5533
@markopolvi5533 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks a lot for the nice review and also the previous videos you have made. I was actually about to order the Ender-3 v2 but your video changed my mind and I will order the new S1 instead. I’m totally new in 3D printing and cannot wait to get my first printer. Greetings from Finland and looking forward to see new videos from you.
@isaacyep2746
@isaacyep2746 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what this printer (assembled, with a spool on) measures to? As in, height, width, length. For the life of me, I can't find it. I can find "frame dimensions" but not confident what that does and doesn't include. Thanks in advance!
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Measurements Inbound! (My Stanley tape measure isn't metric) Height with spool: 27 inches. Depth: 24 inches (measured with bed at rear, then at front, and allowing for bed cable). Width: 20 inches actual, 24 inches allowing for gantry cables that live on the left side). If you're wanting to build an enclosure I'd add two inches to each dimension.
@Magyarkhan
@Magyarkhan 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see it print some 15 mm miniatures
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh. Something *_THAT_* small would probably come out a LOT better on a resin printer!
@Magyarkhan
@Magyarkhan 2 жыл бұрын
Try it as I have an example on discord looking better than expected. I have no experience but from what I see resin is a lot of hassle
@MikeC19100
@MikeC19100 2 жыл бұрын
Based on this video and a couple more like it, I made a decision to took the plunge and bought one today and am on my third print object. I printed the rabbit and handle thingy first and was very pleased with the rabbit, but the bed handle thing was a little rough after I removed the support overburden. I'm currently printing a small box that fills the width and discovered that this printer is very easy to change the z-offset and increase the nozzle temp on the fly, which is a major benefit for a novice like me. I changed filament types after creating the GCODE file and discovered that the silk filament needed 210 degrees as a minimum, which I was able to change using the "Tune" option on the control panel.
@B1GJano
@B1GJano 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Never have been as interested in the ender series machines until seeing this machine. Looks like a great upgrade overall to the ender 3 v2 most in the community love!
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks @B1G_Jano 😁
@massv2910
@massv2910 2 жыл бұрын
anyone know why price on amazon is 40 more than msrp? I dunno much about pergear though, their site says shipping could be weeks?
@nigel5823
@nigel5823 Жыл бұрын
they have fixed it fully i tried it i have 3 ender3 s1 and a pro all power lost worked fine and i have convert one of my ender 3 s1 to a pro version runs like a dream the new s1 i have a small issue a end stop switch on the bed is rattling creality sending me a new one
@Wetdogdrone
@Wetdogdrone 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same thing happen on my Kywoo tycoon after my surge protector did its job. Fortunately I did not have glass plate on the bed, unfortunately I had just put my new PEI plate on it. Wonder if it's marlin issue?
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. How high was the Z axis when the power loss recovery feature triggered? Was it still pretty close to the bed, like when I did it?
@Wetdogdrone
@Wetdogdrone 2 жыл бұрын
2nd layer, figured I screwed up somehow, but seeing that it happened to you, makes me wonder.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wetdogdrone I did a second test, and waited until the print was about 100 millimeters tall before I turned the printer off and then on again. That worked perfectly well. I have a theory, and I'm going to test that and see if this is a consistently reproducible thing. I'll let you know what happens.
@Wetdogdrone
@Wetdogdrone 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't try to repeat the error, I will leave that to the experts, and save my beds.
@Vash.Baldeus
@Vash.Baldeus 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised, some of the features like Return on Power Loss never worked for my Ender 3v2 with their firmware, switched to Jyers and the issue's gone. Creality ain't the best with firmware.
@tonitoader9949
@tonitoader9949 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review! I pre-ordered an Ender 3 S1 last week and I can't wait for it to ship in the second half of January. It has everything my previous Anycubic Chiron lacks, except the larger build volume.
@MrJrod809
@MrJrod809 2 жыл бұрын
Thks for the informative video. Just gettin into 3D printing. So many things to learn is a little scary.
@MichaelStories
@MichaelStories 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Im curious how does the print quality compares with the Prusa mk3s? Thankyou in advanced
@daveycrockett9447
@daveycrockett9447 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these- they do not come with a z-axis limit switch- although it did come with the mounting hardware. I looked at the instructions and it did not list a z-axis limit switch as the packaged contents.
@gianni.1407
@gianni.1407 2 жыл бұрын
You see infill on all prints, that's due to Cura. Slice something with Superslicer and it won't show. You can adjust cura to add more distance for the infill from walls. Thanks for the review. For the $$$ I'm better off with V2 with printed direct drive and printed fan shroud, it has more or less the same quality. I don't ever use a touch sensor, Springs and manual mesh are perfectly fine.
@magicgundam
@magicgundam 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious what filament brand/type was used for the test prints (benchy, cat, tree)? Looks like a silk? I've been looking for a PLA with that type of finish on it. Thanks!
@user-ei1ym1lq6h
@user-ei1ym1lq6h 2 жыл бұрын
Creality needs to step it up and include better springs. The latest firmware is installed, when I have to abort a print job because it's difficult to level this printer with the current springs, the damn bed returns back instead of forward, if you had a print job as high as the Z bar, it's going to rip it clear off the bed. Can you not set a custom home position so this thing returns the bed to the front and raises the Z so you can clean the nozzle? It's a bit tedious having to manually dial the bed forward so you can clean the failed print job then dial the Z up so you can preheat and clean the nozzle. I'm about ready to return it.
@adm2765
@adm2765 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, Great video! I really appreciate the time you have taken to do this in depth review/testing of the printer. I just bought a V2 and was planning to do all the upgrades, but now I am very tempted to just buy the S1. Thanks again & happy holidays ✌
@seansweeten8803
@seansweeten8803 2 жыл бұрын
The S1 and the rest of the Ender line have different main boards, you might want to keep that in mind if you ever wish to mod the S1
@JPTheTechGeek
@JPTheTechGeek 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't see an option to PreHeat TPU, only see PreHeat PLA and PreHeat ABS on the Ender 3 S1
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 2 жыл бұрын
What is it with microscopic manuals? Do they really save that much? FANTASTIC review, by the way.
@jhawker2895
@jhawker2895 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video ... Thanks for sharing ... Merry Christmas .. Stay Safe...
@TheLotw
@TheLotw 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to add to my experience with the Ender 3 S1. Got it on Jan 9th and it no longer will except filament after a jam on Jan 26th. I followed Creality's KZfaq channel for clearing a clog and it did work, but it was a temporary fix, as it seems it will no longer even allow filament to be loaded into the extruder. Its a shame too as I really was loving that printer. But I am probably going to send it back to Amazon as it didnt even last 1 month. Maybe I can exchange it with another one, but it could be a design flaw in their extruder, which means it could happen again. I only have till the 8th to send it back, so about a week left and the printer is dead...... Maybe you could make a video showing how to completely take the new Sprite extruder apart, maybe you'll find an issue or something. Might also help other with that too.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Definitely take advantage of Amazon's return policy. I ran some PETG at 240˚C through it yesterday, for a couple of hours on some small parts, and it did OK. But that's about as hot as I'm willing to run that extruder, since it's PTFE lined. I should probably order the all-metal version of the Sprite, which will be able to hit higher temperatures because it doesn't have that PTFE inside it. Looks like it might be available sometime in the next month.
@TheLotw
@TheLotw 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D I was only using PLA at no more than 210 for the 1st layer than 200-205 for the rest of the print. Also after the failed print/clog I followed the instructions and since I had some capricorn PTFE I cut to the right size and replaced the stock PTFE in the hot end, but still has issues, I am sure its the extruder part that is messed up somehow...
@TheLotw
@TheLotw 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D Update on the problem. I took the entire extruder/hot end apart and found that the clog went all the way up to the gears of the extruder, so it was blocking letting the filament in at all. I am running a test print after the complete tear down and it seems to be working perfectly.... The tear down is a pretty good chore.
@tigerzero5216
@tigerzero5216 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLotw I understand the frustration. First a bit of background. As a gift my brother gave me an Ender 3 Pro early November. I didn't jump into it. I watched the build videos.... (It's going to be the ender of me). 3 weeks later I had my first experience using a 3D printer. Related to you. CLOG! It seems Crealty carries a flow problem from the 3 Pro to 3 S1. Luckily I have not needed to take apart the block to clean it. Ram rod it and replace the nozzle works for me. It's what I needed to do to print 3 Harry Lions. Plus the side spool mount arm, which was needed to make the lions happen.
@FinlessBob
@FinlessBob 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you have to sync the 2 Z axis steppers to the gantry is level first? Before leveling? Surprised you did not go over that.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
There's a belt keeping the two Z stepper motors in sync. Presumably it's good to go from the factory. I haven't had an issue with it on this one.
@FinlessBob
@FinlessBob 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D Interesting. So it has a belt AND 2 stepper motors? Seems like you don't need a belt if you have 2 steppers or visa versa.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
@@FinlessBob Yes, that's correct. I've wondered about that myself. Seems if they're belted and there's no slop in the belt, it would work OK having a single motor driving two lead screws.
@jasoncaddell2479
@jasoncaddell2479 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know your recommendation between the Ender 3 S1 and the Longer LK5 Pro for a first time 3d printer purchase.
@chrundle_the_great
@chrundle_the_great 2 жыл бұрын
Just got and ender 3 v2 like 3 months ago and did most of these upgrades. Too bad this was not available earlier. I would have bought it right away
@FM-wy4gm
@FM-wy4gm 2 жыл бұрын
Same :|
@ILEFTCAPS0N
@ILEFTCAPS0N 2 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel, I got mine maybe 6 months ago.
@randytaillon3818
@randytaillon3818 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Answered all my questions about the S1. I have eyeballing the Cr-10 Smart Pro and hoping to see a review soon. I can't get an answer out of Creality about what mainboard is in it. I'd like to think it will be the same components as the S1 slammed in a CR-10 chassis but that seems too simple. I have a highly modified CR-10S and have been struggling with the settings. Never considered trying Creality's slicer and I'll be damned if installing it and trying the CR-10 Smart Pro profile didn't cure 90% of my issues. I'll have to do some digging to see what all the differences are. Now that the CR-10 looks like it will get sorted out, I'll save 300 and just add the Ender S1 to my fleet. Thanks!
@realkenpriest
@realkenpriest 2 жыл бұрын
What if you try cutting the power by unplugging it instead of using the power switch? A more realistic but possibly important difference.
@prince3121
@prince3121 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanx for keeping us informed about the new model 3D printers.
@bookie60
@bookie60 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine why they are still using a PTFE lined hotend. Seems like a glaring fault in an otherwise pretty up to date affordableish printer.
@Andy-js5jy
@Andy-js5jy 2 жыл бұрын
Or they planned to new Heat break with PFTE shortly 🤔
@Badjujubee
@Badjujubee 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Parts Bin item. Creality is using the same hotend in all their current machines, and it's good enough for them for PLA printing (at least that's my take on their thinking for most of their current portfolio)
@billymacktexasdetective5827
@billymacktexasdetective5827 2 жыл бұрын
20:04 Why do I care about being able to set the nozzle or bed temp to a value lower than ambient temp? What good does it do to set the nozzle or bed to freezing temperatures???
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Only you can answer why you may or may not care. I was pointing out an issue with the firmware. 😉 "It turns out your friend here is only MOSTLY dead... Mostly dead is slightly alive." --Miracle Max kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsh1a6hiyuCdZ4E.html
@billymacktexasdetective5827
@billymacktexasdetective5827 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D Ok, ok, I'll rephrase it. Why do YOU care about being able to set the temps to freezing? I'm a newbie and I'm genuinely curious why it matters... I suspect you could easily run laps around me in the intelligence department so I figure there's some reason I'm not aware of...
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
​@@billymacktexasdetective5827 I care about it because ...well, it's a firmware bug and I feel that Creality should fix it. If it has a lower limit of 0, I feel that I should be able to set it to that value. In that context 0 means "off no matter what," but instead the best I can do is set it to "off unless it gets down to 5 degrees above freezing." I mean technically yes I can go Prepare > Cool Down to set it to 0, but that's a workaround. Also, welcome to the wonderful world of 3D Printing!😀
@JernD
@JernD 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of Z-offset Brian!
@neoyagami
@neoyagami 2 жыл бұрын
did you film backwards when presenting the tools?
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yes, I reversed the video. I laid them all out so I was sure they'd be in frame, and then recorded as I picked them up one at a time. I was going to reverse it and do cuts between each tool appearing, so you wouldn't see my hand at all.. But it looked more fun to have the Allen keys magically be lined up when they got set down.
@neoyagami
@neoyagami 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D nice
@_nom_
@_nom_ 2 жыл бұрын
Eccentric nut, yeah.. I've been called that a few times
@gasparigi
@gasparigi 2 жыл бұрын
That screen reminds me to Jyers firmware. And can you please check is the mainboard fan always ON or on same line as part cooling, like on V2 (I couldn't figure out on footage at 13:57). Thx for nice review.
@mike-carrigan
@mike-carrigan 2 жыл бұрын
When you were showing the printers list in the slicer there was an Ender 3 S1 Pro. I wonder what else it has?
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, It does show an Ender-3 S1 Pro, but it the starting and ending G-code is identical to that of the Ender-3 S1, so there aren't any clues there. I'm trying to think what else Creality could add to this printer to call it "Pro," and the only things I can come up with are maybe an all-metal hot end, and maybe Creality's touch screen. And maybe adding WiFi on board.
@gor1231000
@gor1231000 2 жыл бұрын
my ender 3 s1 won't recognize the sd card that came with the printer... can someone help? thanks
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if your computer can read the card, back up the files on the card to a folder on your computer. Try reformatting the card [ see kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLNibMKAq67UqWw.html ], then copy the files back onto the card.
@gor1231000
@gor1231000 2 жыл бұрын
@@BV3D Thanks for the response. I tried the solution in the video and erased and formatted as instructed then put everything back into the SD card, but the printer still won't recognize it. I also tried to format it using the SD Card Formatter application. This also erased all of the contents on the SD card, but again, the printer won't recognize it. Do not know what else to do. This is the original SD card that came with the printer, so I do not understand why this is happening.
@Robstrap
@Robstrap 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a ender CR6-SE. This looks almost the same but I paid £230 for my CR6, this is like £100 more.
@RC.Aviators
@RC.Aviators 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there... As usual, another great video. I was about to buy this, but then I realised it does NOT have an all metal hot end and uses a small PTFE tube in the throat which again I believe, touches the nozzle. Could you please verify this in the interest of the community and confirm if it can be replaced with a capricorn tube for better stability and performance.
@Mcfly77777
@Mcfly77777 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered one and very interested in this. May need to upgrade the hotend right away
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 2 жыл бұрын
Is it *really* 220x220 or did they just leave a buffer around the perimeter? The original Ender 3 can go out to 235x235.
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
It's physically 235x235. Specs say 220x220, but I just checked, and the firmware allows X out to 230, with Y maxing out at 220.
@bearlevi007
@bearlevi007 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering if the dual Z motors are driven independently or are in some type of splitter like many of the upgrades you can buy for the E3 V2
@Mcfly77777
@Mcfly77777 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently both motors are using the same driver :(
@Knuddel00
@Knuddel00 2 жыл бұрын
Does the Jyers Custom Firmware actually already exist for the Ender 3 S1 ❓ And if so where 👀 ❓ I would be very grateful for a tip... 🙂👋🏼
@antlu65
@antlu65 2 жыл бұрын
All I want to know is... Do they still have the hotend fan on at all times, or can we finally turn it off between prints!? 😂
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it DOES turn off the hot end fan when the hot end is less than 50˚C. I completely forgot to mention that in the video!
@edgarcayce1150
@edgarcayce1150 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bryan, do you happen to know if the catastrophe regarding resuming after a power failure was ever fixed? I'm pretty turned off on the idea myself. With my ender 3 v2 the sample filament ran out mid print and while I was anticipating it enough to pause and change fillament, the new fillament oozed while the nozzle heated back up, the new fillament didn't extrude properly at first and the oozed glob made a mess. After letting it run for a couple more layers with my fingers crossed, it was clear that print had failed and I had to start again. Up until now I thought that was the worst thing that could happen if a print was interrupted.
@martin913913
@martin913913 2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion - Maybe you made a brownout instead of blackout, so the MCU did not boot/reset properly and messed up that recovery. But actually, theres similar bug in Marlin FW(I'm currently running 2.0.7.2, older versions made that too). and if i run some specific gcode for loading filament in my machine, the next gcode(both via USB from octoprint, first gcode either as file or a macro from octo plugin) homes properly and then goes to back left corner and starts rundomly dumping filament and some other weird, potentionally destructive stuff - no other issues. STM32F4.... i think it could be similar problem and i bet its related to UART comms between display and motherboard, or between SD card and motherboard. Or maybe it could be some problem with max extrusion length limit in FW.
@Dom-pu5hj
@Dom-pu5hj 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan, great review. I've been watching reviews for weeks and narrowed down my first printer between the Artillery Sidewinder x2 that you recently reviewed and this Ender-3 S1. I'm leaning towards the Ender despite the larger build volume of the Sidewinder because of the community around the Ender series... Is it safe to assume that when I want to move to a larger build volume, that there will be after market parts to do so? Any takes on the differences between the extruder and hot end of the Sidewinder x2 vs the "Sprite" extruder on the Ender 3 S1? Thanks!
@LoneStarUAV
@LoneStarUAV 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the Artlillery Genius Pro would be a better comparison to the S1 because of the similar build volume. I found myself looking at these myself but then opted for the X2, you can always print small on a big printer, but never big on a small printer. We'll see how that works out. Ultimately I went with the Artillery for the AC bed heater and quiter operation.
@RoosterAndTheHen
@RoosterAndTheHen 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this printer and it's the first 3d printer I've seen in person much less setup. Your video walked me through everything perfectly and without issues. I've just started printing the bunny so I guess we will see how that turns out. Thank you for the very informative and helpful walkthrough. Now onto to the splicer software. I am very proficient in Autodesk AutoCAD so I'm guessing this will be similar, but I believe the program Fusion 360 is used by some people as a splicer, or at least CAD program. Do you know if I can use that for this machine? If so, what format do I need to save the files as for the printer to be able to read them? Thanks again!
@BV3D
@BV3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm glad this video was helpful! People use Fusion 360 as a 3D modeling & design application. Generally you'd export the model as an STL file, and then use a slicer such as Creality Slicer, or Cura, or even PrusaSlicer to turn the STL file into a G-code file for the printer. The printer ONLY understands G-code files. G-code files tell the printer what temperature to set the nozzle and bed to, and they tell it where to move, and when to extrude plastic. I think Fusion 360 can create G-code, but I don't have any experience doing that. To me, it's best to use one of the slicer programs I just mentioned, since they're geared specifically for creating the G-code files for the printers, and you can start with basic settings and then adjust from there. For instance, if you wanted to print a model in "draft mode" to see if it's exactly as you expect, you can do that. And if it turns out that it's good, with one quick change you can slice it again, and print it in a higher resolution if you want it to look nicer. And if you want to skip designing your own things to print, check out printables.com for lots of STL files! You can upload your own designs there, too, if you want to share them with the world.
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 2 жыл бұрын
Just needs an all metal hotend and it'll be perfect.
@ABG_3D
@ABG_3D 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, Hope you see this. Great video as always 💪🏼 With the failure you had, where the nozzle made a decent imprint on the build surface, I still feel it’s a firmware related issue with the BLTouch (CRTouch from my understanding is a rebranded BLTouch) rather then a SD card issue as CHEP suggested (I have tried multiple SD cards, the same even happens if I print over USB, lol). I’ve been having this issue at random intervals on my Ender 3 v2 since installing the BLTouch with the default Creality BLTouch (Marlin) firmware and also the latest Jyers Marlin firmware. This has happened when I home all axes, started a print, after a power failure and even mid print, but never consistently so that I can identify what’s causing it to try and reproduce the issue and send my results off to Creality Support. Luckily I’ve always been around or close to my printer when this has happened and could switch the power off in time before there were any irreversible damages, however I haven’t been so lucky when I recently (as in last week Friday) fitted the wham bam flexible PEX build system 😔 Installed it and was so stoked to start my first print on the brand new build surface. I relevelled the bed, performed ABL (I have the UBL Jyers firmware installed), even double and triple checked my Z Offset to avoid a collision issue and was ready to get printing a small 10mm x 10mm x 10mm cube. Started the print, waited for the bed and hotend to heat up again and got distracted, next thing I glance over and my nozzle is pushing the bed so far down the Z motor started skipping steps 😢 I was left with a huge nozzle imprint and a few deep drag/scratch marks on the PEX surface. After a power cycle the printer went back to normal and Ive been printing without any issues, barring the messed up PEX sheet (which I’m struggling to find a replacement sheet in South Africa at the moment as we only have one supplier stocking them. As any South African will tell you, impoting is not an option as parcels mysteriously disappear lol) My biggest concern is seeing you having a similar issue on the S1 as I’ve had with the hotend destroying a build surface it makes me wonder how many other Creality users have had the same issues since fitting a BLTouch to their Enders. If you do manage to find a resolution or permanent solution, I would be very keen to see what you’ve come up with. Keep up the great work
@GilesWells
@GilesWells 2 жыл бұрын
"CRTouch from my understanding is a rebranded BLTouch" The CR Touch is, to my understanding, not simply a repackaged BL Touch. The simplest difference to see, besides the external shape, is the use of a metal pin over the plastic one in the BL Touch. The CR Touch does share the same input / output interface but that is a very smart decision in my mind because it allows any plugins or code that was written with the BL Touch in mind to work, without any code changes, for the CR Touch.
@loser_town8287
@loser_town8287 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bryan! I love your videos! I wish this printer came out a year ago before I bought my Ender 3v2 and had to go through so much struggle getting all the upgrades installed. :)
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