This.

^ completly right.

how do you know when to reset the emulator for a smooth experience?

@@hawshimagical Everytime there is a new action or animation for the first time, it will lag (because the emulator hasn't seen and loaded the shaders) and then it will run smoothly, you just need to give time to the animations to load.

no, the reason is because it's a terrible low power device

A little stiff you say? Noice!

@@cristoff30 When you make such juvenile jokes, it makes it HARD to take you seriously...

@@elohym876 hehe.. hard

i was gonna leave the same comment

Also, it's acrylic, not glass.

because everyone making one

Wait until the Steam Deck comes out, it will be the real king here

@@markmystery3536 true but this device looks super sleek and clean, the steam deck looks busy and complicated and heavy looking

@@markmystery3536 indeed im just hoping its going to be able to fortnite and call of duty

@MEfoo I mean, Steam Deck is, in fact, a pc. While this is an android device with limited usability.

Even in Wii U and swich that happens

I do I cache it then?

@@billblaski9523 on android use the back button then choose exit from game, it screws with muscle memory ik.

And we love it !

It's getting very, VERY exciting. Faster chips, OLED screens, ergonomics, battery life, haptic feedback. And absolutely fantastic selection of emulators to choose from, it's all coming together nicely. With more and more companies trying to outclass each other, the proverbial snowball of innovation is now picking up in everyone's favor. Now to get supply back in check for the undoubtedly increase in demand...

There has been a resurgence since 2017, the Retro Mini (re)starting it all. :)

I hope this ages poorly but I’ll enjoy it while I can

@@Green____T why?

A DRIVE SLOT WHAT

@@brandon_nope yeah it's pretty cool, have those big modern libraries in the dock :)

@@JackOusley Yeah! slap in a 4tb 2.5 drive and booyah! It's all done.

He’s seriously the only KZfaqr for whom I enthusiastically sit through his ads. Sometimes they are the BEST PART of the video!

I like how I can quickly go “oh this doesn’t apply to me, I can skip this guilt free” with this one.

Neither will you if you buy roman 😉

Internet historian also has great ads...

MelonDS is better I think. And it's free

MelonDS is still in development. It's getting seriously better, but still for now, DraStic stands out for being the best and most well optimised android ds Emulator

Drastic sux

@ dont just think, try it.

I already canceled my steam deck order for this baby I can't wait

Also the screen stays on when docked? Lol who needs that

So, you can play Wow Classic on this? if you know how to map. I saw someone do that with moonlight on a swtich.

You are confusing this arm based android device with a x86 based Windows device. You cannot run Windows 11 or steam games on this device, though you can probably use the steam link app I guess.

@@atonegames Lionel is confusing this with another device

@@bionicgeekgrrl no, actually you can. All it takes is one KZfaq search to see how it works

Think the lite version also has wifi 6 as well the others dont

Yeah I think the lite is just knocking out the windows compatibility It's practically the same CPU though The mediatek dimensity was released either this year or last And the 845 is like 3 years old. I think it's the exact same performance just mediatek took a little bit longer to get there so it is a more modern chip supporting more modern features like wifi 6

The biggest thing with the mediatek is just driver compatibility overall

I think the dimensity one has better battery optimization and single core performance. The owner of ayn told me that the lite is geared towards streaming, hence the wifi 6 where as the base and pro are more for emulation since SD has more developer support and can also run windows on arm etc. The only difference between pro and base is the ram really but they should perform about the same I would think.

probably because the sd845 was throtling inside smartphones wich limited its performances. It can run at more than full speed inside the odin, so, those benchmark won't be that close between odin base/pro and odin lite. I'd expect a very noticeable drop in performance with the lite one, because of the weaker cpu/gpu and the less commonly used GPU that implies that most emulators probably doesn't have been as much optimised for yet.

go get a 3ds it's so worth it

@@monkeygameplay5455 I own a 3DS. Not everyone who emulates doesn't own the system and games they play. The only time I've emulated 3DS was trying to play a romhack of Omega Ruby.

@@godminnette2 oh i see romhacks work on 3ds i think but only on hombrew

Nintendo: BUY OUR NSO EXPANSION PACK + DELUXE PACK FOR WII AND WII U GAMES

That's all of our fault for our continuous support of them. We've enabled Nintendo for ages. They do the bare minimum and we still throw money at them. Stop buying their shit like we did in the Wii U era (ironically that system did a lot of things very right) and watch them magically change their tune.

If Nintendo has demonstrated anything with their recent emulated back library on the switch the delay for more titles is to give themselves time to screw up the game experience enough so that they continue to push gamers to retro consoles.

I literally bought a switch because I thought Nintendo would be smart enough to realize the retro gaming gold they had. Nope. NSO was ok, but jot the deep library I was hoping for. The funny thing is by not giving us a way to pay for these games, specifically the ones we want and not random ass Japanese games that hold zero nostalgia for me, they only encourage the theft.

is it worth it? does it have psp games?

Agreed, especially since it was announced at the same time as the iPhone controller support. What's worse is that button mapping software is against the terms of service so you could be banned if it's discovered you're using that to get a controller working with Android, which is ridiculous seeing as they don't seem to care about offering that support themselves. Wonder what's gonna come first, that controller support or the Switch version?

😯😯

I check several compsrisons between snapdragon and D900 and it seems quite similar, in fact in some features D900 has a better performance. Paying some extra bucks you can get a better ram and storage, that makes feel Lite like a Pro. Crossing fingers Lite version could support PS2 emulation too

@@frankgago79 not likely as powerful as the base or pro but some games will run

I totally agree. The only thing missing is a microwave.

@@slaingirlfound AGREED they really left that out. Clearly this could use a microwave maybe a fridge too?

@@DiskCart That's hysterical!! Wishing you and yours good health and prosperity in the New Year! Happy Gaming!!!

@UCx0ocrXh6tMZNlAcbivdh2w eBay

Where to buy?

The cpu is horrible compared to the snapdragon

@@rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 Really? Do you have any relevant benchmarks you could share? Most of the ones I've seen have shown that the performance on the SD845 is slightly better due to the optimization of the chip throughout the years. The Dimensity 900 is still quite a new chip with a lot of headroom to be optimized and processor wise it seemed quite similar in performance to the SD845.

@@lottabee no benchmark I can give you at the moment. The sd is better I just can't tell you how much at this exact moment give me s second

​@@rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522 All good 👍

@@lottabee D900 is a really capable SoC, watch latest Taki Udon's video running emulators on Odin Lite, it's really surprising.

Yeah, something is off here. DraStic is super performant. There's no way the Odin can't run it, especially if it runs GameCube this well.

@@danielalorbi He says in the video that he used Retroarch for DS emulation. AFAIK, there's no DraStic core for RA, only a standalone version. I have no idea what kind of core this is.

Yeah, this is bit weird, i still play my DS games with Drastic, on very old tablet that has ancient A7 Mtk SoC, newer and latest Soc shouldnt have problem running Drastic.

I got a Retroid Pocket 2+ and it's great. Perfect size too, fits right in pocket.

Probably better than a phone because phones have a skinny long aspect ratio.

After knowing which processor this thing was running, i felt a bit confused.... i just add a Razer Kishi to my note 9 and that's it? Im not sure about the 845 future support....

You can play Android games on an Android phone with a controller. Lol

@@psp4gamer don't do that because games eat your storage and your main phone will be full

@@shaydesofblue2281 wow know one would know that!! A phone battery lasts for 2 hours for top tier emulation like wii.

“Blue-shelled” *killed me* as well 💀

The fact that it is actually a handheld, as you described, and the price point makes this thing really interesting for sure. I have a Steam Deck preordered but I may get this as well. I have a gaming PC and a decent internet setup, so do I really need a Steam Deck when I could get something like this and stream my games? It’s an interesting proposition.

It’s really worth it. It does everything that was advertised and honestly is so good all around. Battery life is a tank to. I got mine 2 weeks ago and it’s been awesome

In fairness to the Steam Deck form factor is not all the marbles if it was I don't think nearly as many people would have bought the switch, that thing isn't that comfortable to use and this won't be that great either (just based on the button placement). It is also not really that portable. Can't really put it in a pocket like a phone so it still has to be bagged somehow. Steam Deck in many or most other regards is just going to be more capable. You are not spending more for nothing.

Have you seen actual reviews of the Steam Deck that have been coming out these past several days? The Steam Deck's grips are FLAWLESS and evenly distribute the weight so well that you don't notice the weight.

@@FamousWolfe ain’t the steam deck really shit tho. Like it’s so incomplete out of the box. I understand steam deck is at work tweaking all the rough edges and making games better but it really doesn’t look casual consumer friendly

Yeah, if you use the drastic emulator, everything runs flawlessly

Official Citra on Android has pretty much been abandoned. They released it, took donations for a pro version, and then have done nothing with it. The last Android build was 9 months ago. MMJ is a little better but updates trickle in exceedingly slowly. There is a fork called Citra Enhanced which is attempting to combine the feature set of official with the performance of MMJ but it's very inconsistent in performance at the moment.

@@voteDC I hope someone picks up on 3DS emulation again, especially with how much emulation is catching steam again

@@chrisasma9700 yep, it's all about trial and error with these cores and shader caches

Yeah right early cycle, look how AetherSX2 perform with only a month release, it run better than Citra ,even with unpopular chipset of smartphone like mediatek,that unfortunately ,Citra unable to do, that more lean to Snapdragon phone users.

Why do i have to pay for an emulator?

Yup, worked wonderfully on my SEX play even. They probably improved it a lot by now too.

@@SanIX___I cuz developers have to make money somehow. Making an emulator is an extremely time consuming task, and considering how good it is I think it's 100% deserves money

Its a real shame about the size of the Steam Deck. Being both bigger and thicker than the Wii U gamepad, its not exactly an ideal portable.

@@Galohide For many, the bigger size is not only not really a problem, it's actually a plus. The switch and the joycons is not particularly comfortable on it's own. Which is why most people tend to get some type of grip when playing undocked or they go for third party controller acessories like the Hori Split pad, which by the way makes the switch about the same size as the Steam Deck. Sure, with a grip or the third party joycons, the system is bigger, but the base switch model, and arguably even the lite, most aren't going to just put it in their pocket. They're going to put it in a case, preferably one that fits with their grip or controller. Some will even carry it with extra accessories like a pro controller. Similarly, while the Odin looks smaller, though it looks fairly ergonomic compared to the switch, I still wouldn't try to fit it in my pocket, it would get the same treatment as the switch, which is to put it in a case and maybe put that case in a bag with the rest of the stuff I want to take with me. A steam deck is in the same range, of put it in a case, carry it in a bag as the other two, it's not in some separate class of portables, and it's powerful enough as well as capable of playing pretty much any pc or emulated game, that one doesn't even need much if anything else, they could even potentially replace their switch for many games since Switch emulators are getting to the point they run switch games better than the actual switch.

@@AlbedoAtoned Another reason the size is a plus is that it allows for more space for active cooling, which keeps temps low and framerates high, just as Gaben intended

@@Galohide I guess its depend on who you are. For many people like me, Its not a problem, since I'm always carrying backpack anyway :)

Can steam deck run emulators?

@@calmax7954 It's essentially a handheld PC, so yes it can. It comes with SteamOS installed by default, and I'm not sure how that's going to work with non-Valve software, but you can always install a different OS, including Windows.

@@disky01 thanks for info

@@calmax7954 Yep

hey even with sd410 and 1gb of ram, Drastic still runs perfect and amazing

I ran across your comment and I can confirm that Drastic is AMAZING!! Currently playing heart gold and soulsilver with zero issues. Runs absolutely smooth on my s21 ultra.

@@flick2flick yes drastic is so optimized that it'll run on low end devices without any problem and slowing

@@raihanlazuardi6632 Do you know if Drastic is also used on the actual DS device when brewed? If not, is there a way to transport my heartgold save file from my 21 ultra to the DS?

@@flick2flick hmm unfortunately I'm not into technical stuff so I don't know

Citra is for 3DS

Glad to hear this. Most, if not all, channels are only reviewing the Pro.

The base is still an incredible unit for sure. Really the only reason to get the Pro is if you plan to put windows on it, or use HD Textures with your games.

@@keiz_ that’s really good to know. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for any gameplay comparisons, but if that’s the case then I think I’ll absolutely snag one of these over a Switch Lite or Steam Deck.

Have you tried installing Windows 11 on it? It will be great to play indie games from Steam library.

@@keiz_ I'll keep that in mind. Might buy the base model

For retro games 1080p isn't really doing much. PPI is more important overall, but given how low-res textures and low poly models were, it's a wash. For now on retro games, could this run current gen at full resolution anyways?

They're still taking orders on Indegogo at the moment. They plan to go full retail, but it'll be a little bit till they fulfill current orders and decide where to sell it retail

@@keiz_ gotcha, thanks!

I agree but with foldable devices I’m hoping they can take that over

Might as well use your phone

@@onion_____ game pass sucks on ios, and i'd rather have physical controls

Cancel the reservation. I did

Dont cancel it, this is garbage compared to it

The Cpu is on par, if not slightly better, the the GPU will be just a tiny but behind. The biggest thing though is just driver support isn't there as much

Nice! Any idea how long it will take to receive it?

RP2+ is like that for me. Odin looks cool just for the fact you can play GameCube and PS2, but the screen is just too wide and playing 4:3 games means you're not gonna fill up the whole display. If you buy it for modern games and/or game streaming (as advertised), then it's a lot more justified.

@@soapbox9139 I was thinking about the RP2 + but I think the screen size and overall build is too small for what I'm looking for. At least the Odin is larger and moreso designed to play console games. I don't mind black bars on the sides, if I wanted to play wide-screen I'd play on PC. I am looking for portability that'll play Dreamcast and under. 👍

Where did you get a Odin?

I already sold most of my emulation handhelds. I quite enjoy my Odin pro and I’m waiting on my Lite to come

@@FirebrandChris yeah. i'm selling mine now. I use Lemuroid or whatever its called on android and it has cloud saves and works really well.

Seems like he only make a video about it because he got it for free from the company and need to say something nice about it. Just a feeling...

@@markmystery3536 your feeling is wrong lol he paid for it. he said that in the video you just watched and got a feeling from

Aether runs pretty much fine even with midrange processers. Most current major range and any flagship Android from the last 3 years and a dualshock (or any decent BT controller) and you're all set.

My midrange phone with unpopular mediatek chipset can run almost all games from PS2 library with good fps, especially popular title like Final Fantasy XII, AetherSX2 definitely a big gift for smartphone user right now, run smooth even better than older one like Citra emulator.

thats odd, i use my 2 8bitdo controllers all the time and have never had an issue. contact their support?

@@timestopMachinist I might do that sometime, for now I have bought Pro Controllers. Both my 8-Bit do (SN30 Pro and SN30Pro+) controllers were used to play Diablo 3. How many thousand hours have you used yours, if I may ask?

@@hai5266 idk exactly how long ive used each, but i used my pro for pretty much every platformer i played, and when i had company, and i tossed it in my bag to use on my phone for a while (still do when i have the opportunity). when i got the pro+, i did all that except for tossing it in my bag. i use them on switch, my laptop, and wired on my desktop, as well as my phone. theyve been super reliable controllers for me, and my friends who have gotten them seem to share the sentiment. it sucks that youve had issues with yours but sticky buttons are usually fixable, even if you dont want to contact support. just yesterday i had to fix the switch on one of my mouse buttons for similar reasons

Okay thanks, that is good to know. Not sure if I want to give them another chance and buy a third one though, now that I use Pro Controllers, I actually find them better. Also the D-Pads on both my 8-Bit do's tend to go sideways when pressing down, it didn't happen right away, maybe after a half year. I bought the second one after the first one got screwed, hoping the "plus"-version was designed better, but they suffer from the exact same problems.

Very well. Runs every game I've tested at x4 the native resolution

@@Galohide fuck yeah, now I'll have to save some money and the first thing I'll do is install Daxter and Patapon

@@gonnsolo8506 Remapping the d-pad to the right thumbstick is such a life saver in games like Final Fantasy Type-0 and Monster Hunter. Can freely move the camera around.

could it dock?