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The camera is too far away to see what you're taking about most of the time

The chapters in the video are really useful to pick out specific information as a guide. Great stuff!

Thanks for the video!

1861 Hesalite w/2 tone stainless bracelet is just a beast! Love everything about it!

Awesome video! Thanks!

The new sapphire version is fantastic. I think it would look pretty good on a Forstner Flat Link bracelet. I've also changed my mind about the Speedmaster Calibre 321. It's really beautiful the more I have seen of it (shame I cannot afford one). It would be great if Omega introduced an updated FOIS with the Calibre 3861.

I agree the sapphire should come with a ceramic bezel. It would have been the perfect speedy for me.

Great review👍🏻 thanks 🙏

Thank you for this presentation! I'm not entirely sure if I like the new watch more than the previous, not because of the step dial or the indexes so much but because the loom looks a bit greener. Just puts me off, but I guess I'll have to see the watch up close to make up my mind. Also I like that they introduced gold versions, but what about a two tone? A steel and moonshine gold, but with a two tone bracelet. Not like before where they just made two tone cases but a steel bracelet! I think it would be a cool watch! I think I should also congratulate you on influencing Omega to adapt the moonshine bracelet in this version! I don't know if its the case but it feels like you had some part in that!

Great video guys!

Thanks for the video and website review. As you mentioned that you took the caseback off the hesalite to compare movements, do you believe an exhibition/sapphire caseback can be applied?

Thank you for this great video! I'm not sure if you mentioned this, but another difference is the new hesalite bracelet is fully brushed, and the sapphire has polished center links.

20+ years of watch collecting, and much to my shame, I still haven't owned a Speedmaster (though I came close with a 145.012 many years ago). This might just be the iteration (in hesalite, of course) that does it for me. Looking forward to see it at an Omega AD.

11:30 Whats the part # for the polished version bracelet? It seems to be missing a part # on the back

This is so much better than a Daytona.

The Sedna gold and Canopus gold versions should have had ceramic bezel as the Moonshine version did, the Moonshine version feels to be of better value than the other two gold versions.

Since the movements appear to be identical between the Hesalite and Sapphire models, did you check to see if it was possible to screw-on the exhibition caseback from the Sapphire mode onto the back of the Hesalite version? Sadly the only “Hesalite sandwich” available are previous models like the 3572.50 or 3592.50

Great video. Thanks. Subscribed

Assuming the sapphire see-through case back fits on the hesalite version, will it increase the overall thickness of the watch? I.e. is the sapphire caseback thicker than the solid caseback? Thanks!

Yes ...I have the 1861 and can definitely afford to miss the new one. For me, the older one has many benefits

Congrats for the review! Has the aluminum bezel a special treatment like the the new seamaster 300 one? Or is a normal aluminum anodized bezel? Thanks

Great review!!! now I want a sapphire speedy!!!! BTW what kind of watch case is on the vídeo?

Great Video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

new bracelet looks awesome

Great review RJ, you have the Omega Speedmaster mini museum. I like that! Lol! BTW, Omega shows them as Sold Out, I wonder if we can purchase the bracelet separately.

Thank you for the great video! Great watch, no doubt! But nevertheless it is supposed to be true that new Speedy is not flight qualified by NASA, at least for now. We have to understand that certified and qualified is two totally different things. Exactly that is why OMEGA changed the text on the caseback. I found the information that 3861 movement was tested by OMEGA with the same standards and steps like 321 and 861/1861 was, but only NASA can initiate the flight qualifying. It is also true that only 321 and 861 was officially tested by Mr. Ragan in NASA, nevertheless all three movements (321,861 and 1861) were flight qualified by NASA and 1861 is currently-in-service also for EVA on ISS. 1861 was also qualified because it is basically the same movement as 861 despite of Copper VS Rodium and additional Jewel 17vs18. Interesting fact, that first 861 movement had metal chronograph brake and it was qualified only after it got Delrin chronograph brake instead. 1861 movement has also Delrin chronograph brake, the 1863 movement however has metal chronograph brake, and as we know is not flight qualified. One more interesting thing about 3861 flight qualification: Quote:- "...I asked Omega if there were any plan to discontinue the 1861 for the 3861 - would that not mean that "flight qualified" would no longer be true for the Moonwatch? Omega's former CEO, Stephen Urquhart, had once told me over a breakfast years ago that the Moonwatch must always have an 1861 movement, for that reason. " Jack Forster June 27, 2019 I am concerned that exactly "not flight qualified" is the biggest change in the new model. Because of that Speedy with 321,861/1861 was special, first of all as an official astronauts equipment that could be bought by those who love this watch but would never manage to go to space.

Thanks for the video! Is the new bracelet compatible with the previous Speedy? I wish it was!

Hello RJ 🙂 the website on fratello and the blog speedy Tuesday led me here on searching on KZfaq. / incredible and impressive as always - thanks for this . RJ ? In principle - do u agree on changing bracelets from one model to another ? Or u prefer keeping all original ? I intend to lean on the latter approach .

Nice but I prefer the older gen bracelet. Also the lines on the clasp don’t get with the design and why they didn’t use the micro adjusting clasp already used in the 1857 I don’t know!

Are the new moonwatch movement lemania based?

How does the 39mm speed master fair to the 2021 42mm. In wearability and comfort. Also, is it worth getting the new one or look for a deal on an older model used under 4k? Also, what’s your recommendation for a white dial speed master that’s not in precious metal or the racing version.

Just found your channel. Now subscribed.

So close...I wanted the brushed bracelet on the sapphire version...

A lot of Information about the new Speedy. I think the missing Accessoires is more than 300€ . Greetings from Germany

Just a logical sense update of the Omega Speedmaster by using the new 3861 master chronometer movement, very interesting for a new generation of Speedmaster fans who want a brand new wristwatch, but no so interesting for the diehard 321 "Moonwatch" aficionados.

RJ: “The aluminum bezel might fade a bit. Here’s one that’s a bit damaged.” Camera man: Doesn’t bother zooming in... 😐

Will you review the sedan vs white gold here? Thnks RJ

Great review, it's a winner, and 3861 hacks!

The most professional review.

Good video.

Very huge respect from Almere... We like your super reviews. Kind Regards Levent

I happen to receive the 1861 with a DON bezel :)

Good overview. Maybe bring the camera closer to the watches

Hmm the new sapphire Speedy or the 321 Ed White for double the price? Never owned a Speedy myself but always admired them from afar. I love how beautiful the 321 movement looks in this new Ed White... but as a daily wear watch... I kinda like the antimagnetic, more precise, and hacking seconds of the sapphire 3861. So hard to choose.

You didn't mention that there is also a small cut out shape one the back of the case on either side of where the bracelet goes in.

So the only real shortcomings would be to wish for a ceramic bezel and non-tool bracelet adjustment system. Overall, fantastic. I prefer the Sapphire, though I suspect many will prefer the Hesalite because of the grey “ring” caused by the sapphire crystal.

Can you please tell us about the case that has been used in this video ? (Watch box)

Great review! Everything I wanted to know! But, isn't it like 1500€, or something near that, more than the previous one? :(

Great video! Does the sapphire case back fit in the hesalite case? I would like the hesalite crystal but also to see the beautiful movement!

Great in-depth review mate, I especially like the time stamps for different topics. However, I must say watch reviews from a distance are horrible. You held the vintage bracelet up and we couldn't even see it, such a shame. The camera needs to be looking over your shoulder so we can see all the goodies.

Would you buy a Hesilite Sandwich 3592.50 or this new 3861 if price was the same?

Definitely should’ve gone ceramic on the sapphire sandwich leaving the hesalite as the heritage version. Look great though.

I just wish some of these channels would spend some more time on the movement other than reading the specs. I mean, we spend about as much time talking about the movement as we spend talking about the new box. So many people post about it, but if you want to get details of how the architecture has changed and how exactly they implemented the new features in a movement that still looks very related to the old Lemania movement, there are very few options out there. I have heard enough about that butt ugly tank track bracelet without microadjustment by now.

Thank you for this superb review. I have a question: you always said in the past that 1861 was qualified by. Nasa, now suddenly 1861 is not qualified by NASA. Why? If 1861 was not qualified how was it possible to use it in different space missions? Thanks.

Do you think buying the old calibre would be a good investment?

So the new moon watch’s calibre is better than the old one? Not sure which one to go for the new one or the previous one.

What about rev 1171?

Not many people know more! Would be nice to learn more about the movement - some pretty big changes! Now might finally be the day a Speedy makes it into the collection...

@0:09 what ref# and bracelet is that? wow

I winced when you placed your Speedmaster onto the table. I personally can’t bear scratches.

What is that astronaut figure/statue in the background?

Good review. Suggestion: dump the grating background music.

I love the durability of the sapphire but the bracelet, full brushed, on the hesalite is much more appealing.... need input from the community... I can't decide...

So the Hesalite is the one to go for?

Prefer the leather strap with deployment clasp on the old with the new hesalite.

Speedmaster 101... I thought that was somebody else ;)

Bracelet on the Omega 3861 looks really nice!! The pointed crown brand messed it up on the NEW Submariner with their 41mm and massive ugly bracelet.

Hey RJ, I found some information, you might be interested in, in the book about Omega Speedmaster („The Moonwatch“ years of production 1994 to 1996, Miller,Richon (in association with Omega-Museum), you also wrote about this book in your Article: „Speedy Tuesday - An Overview of Speedmaster Books“. On the page 107 it states that in preparation of Shuttle-Program NASA on September 1978 started to test the Speedmaster again. The same was stated by James Ragan himself in the video „Moonwatch Memories“ (time 03:30-04:00), namely that he had to do the tests (some of them) in preparation for Skylab and Shuttle Program again. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibqnibuj06evqWw.html

Omega price increase in the UK shows they are chasing Rolex figures. In the US there are equivalent increases are around £740 and £590 but the increase in the UK is £1,120 on both bracelet models. Feels like a chance to increase margin profit coming on top of an 8% price rise last summer.

I only want the saphire version because it's the most expensive version. Period Also it's the version that sells out so it's clearly the most desirable one.

why does the white gold cost 10 000euro more then the sedna gold?

If you are going for one moon watch go for saphire. If you are collecting moon watches get the hesalite.

Of course I can, for the same price I can get a Speedy Racing w column wheel, vertical clutch, automatic, ceramic bezel, full balance bridge, date complication, sturdier bracelet, micro adjustments and free of cheezy moon watch marketing.

The previous box was better imo because it contained a nato, a nasa strap and the tools to change it

Great review but please pay more attention to lighting and camera work

Awesome but not many closeups to illustrate your review

Why so far away from the cam? We don't bite. :)

The old bracelet is $810 The new bracelet is $650 The new sailcloth strap is $250

90 の件 👍️

People who watch your videos would love to see the details of the watches you talk about instead of seeing your face - no offence! So, please make sure your camera zooms in to the details of the watches when you show them to your audience. ✌🏻👍🏻

Are you wearing a gold version.... you never mentioned it.........

As a omega speedy owner. I get the price increase but I wish they would have hit a few notes on the new updated speedmaster like 200 m water resistance and a micro glide adjustment clasp. The two gold versions should have had a ceramic bezel. That’s just my 2 cents

3:22 thanks for the close up of your face and not the watches themselves

I want it lol

i can absolutely afford to miss it, considering for the insane price they're now charging, you can get an actual moonwatch (and not a pretend moonwatch) with a bit of patience...

Dutch?

Did you mention it has a hacking seconds? Big draw card for some.

A ceramic bezel would crack and fly all over the place in space. So that’s a stupid idea unless you want to make the Moonwatch anything except a Moonwatch. Sapphire glass and case back can be changed to hesalite and steel case back with relative ease while changing the bezel isn’t that easy, especially a ceramic one. So no, a ceramic bezel watch should be called something else. Earthwatch, maybe.

I love the channel but I hate the soundtrack

Please do more close up if you want to compare watches..

One comment, please show more watch close shots in the video and less of you. Dont get me wrong, great video, but I think the audience want to see more close up shots of the watches!

That Dial Recalibration from Fifths to Quarter-Seconds is just The Deal-Breaker for me. It ruins The Tooladelick look of the Precision Astronauts's Timing Instrument. It makes the Dial look like A KnockOff Fake. On my '57 Broad-Arrow " ReEdition" from 1998 i can easily time Fifths of A Second on the Chronograph. Such A Shame to see An Updated Speedmaster with Improved Movement & that Lovely new Bracelet, with A " Dumbed-Down" Dial! 😢

Whatever they didn't do they should have done.

In truth in the booklet of the previous reference (005) it was written: International Space Station: Today, the Speedmaster is still flight qualified by NASA for all piloted space missions. Since November 2nd, 2000, the International Space Station has been continually occupied by scientists, engineers and astronauts from all over the world. More than 200 visitors from 15 nations have made the trip. The Speedmaster has always been part of their standard equipment. I'm very confused.

They all look the same to me.

59 downvoters are stuck with their older version lol

I have a question... What was the thinking behind 'can you afford to miss it?' In the title? A little puzzling. Are you insinuating this will be difficult to get in the future? I hope not. I'm completely sick of the indignity of false scarcity and opaque waiting lists of other brands. I refuse to participate in that game. Hopefully Omega doesn't decide to join that party. P.s. couldn't agree more on the ceramic bezel on the sapphire. This generation with be around for a while and aluminium at that price point seems a bit outdated. It's a must on the hesalite, but sapphire should have been ceramic for me.

Just a tip SHOW THE WATCH MORE FGS

Your camera guys is not very professional. I clicked on the video to get a glimpse of the watch, but saw more of the host than the watch. Hopefully, next video the time pieces get more exposure.