The New SPD-SX PRO Solves the SPD-SX's Biggest Problems

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The eDrum Workshop

The eDrum Workshop

Күн бұрын

Roland have just announced the SPD-SX Pro. Let's take a look at the new features and improvements of this flagship sample pad.
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@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Apologies for the awkward cut at 10:20 - I edited out the MP3 file format section as it was incorrect. The SPD-SX Pro can _import_ MP3 files, but they will be converted to 48kHz 16-bit samples for playback, so it won't save space as I previously suggested. Thanks to junak2003 for pointing it out!
@Agatonga
@Agatonga Жыл бұрын
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@jpcampos
@jpcampos Жыл бұрын
They removed the TEMPO SYNC that the original SPD-SX had. They need to bring that back as I use that feature a TON live.
@sonylizz
@sonylizz Жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I bought one last week . It is great.
@lukescipiortherockshow1975
@lukescipiortherockshow1975 Жыл бұрын
Great review, pre-ordered a while ago! Lots of great fixes
@cypressbartlett9083
@cypressbartlett9083 Жыл бұрын
Just got one and using it in a show. The capabilities are absolutely incredible and Roland has addressed many many functionality requests.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it! I've only had a brief test run but found some fun and useful features!
@thebandthatisDAVE
@thebandthatisDAVE Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Very Informative.
@SchwappSchwopp
@SchwappSchwopp Жыл бұрын
Oooh I‘m exited to watch this 👌🏻
@cristaples
@cristaples Жыл бұрын
My first though is that the menus and controls are a bit complicated after the other versions. I think it’s a great machine, I can use two samples per pad and have a crossfade point that makes a triggered snare more realistic, lower the attack transient to stop it sounding plasticky on the front end and it will get close to a v-drum or tm-6 pro. FX are expanded. Master FX have shrunk sadly, I liked master fx and used a lot of delay on hihats and ping ponged it between my left and right speakers and I can still do that with multifx but I just liked the 4 masterfx. Feedback on the master fx is controllable on the knob but I still only get one master fx. Audio over usb is great, multiple outs are great, click and midi clock wonderful. I like to trigger 4 toms, double kick and a dual zone snare on rock gigs, then on pop gigs I have single kick trigger, pad, dual zone hats and it’ll be nice to trigger dual zone snare and two toms, if I want to switch between those gigs I have to reprogram the triggers, I’d like to see trigger banks available, 8 or 16 wouldn’t go amiss for a journeyman drummer. That would be a pro feature. Even better would be individual trigger settings per kit. That’d really be cool. The onboard sounds are great, so much choice for snares and kicks, claps and percussion etc. couldn’t find any fingersnaps. I exported my sounds from my SX and then loaded them into the Pro tonight, took me an hour to set up the 6 kits I need for my next gig with Tom triggers, snare trigger and kick and hihat, all my sounds are set and I just need to test the levels on my speakers with my kit which I’ll do in rehearsal. I’ll set up some midi control kits another evening to control superior drummer, Ableton drum racks, breaktweeker and addictive drums. I want to find out how to set up the control foot switches and see if I can plug triggers into the input in some way. Set up the hihat pedal and make use of it, and the expression pedal. The click can be started when you hit any pad or trigger, so you can start with a sound and get the click in your in-ears, it’ll play, loop or start stop each time you hit the pad for that sound. There’s also sample delay. You can hit a pad and have it nit start until a note value has gone by, so you could have 2 pads start at the same time without using pad link by hitting them each consecutively on 8th notes with each pad delayed by a correct note value, or pad link them, hit one and gave 4,5 or however many start up later without having to build silence into the front of the sample, it does the maths for you. This might not seem useful but to someone out there this will save a lot of time. Pad sequencer is a cool tool, the alesis dm4 trigger module allowed you to hit a pad and it would cycle through 4 different timbale or bongo sounds, it was fun and allowed you to play a pad with broken 16ths that sounded like you were playing like an expert percussionist. This goes way further on this unit. Up to 16 steps of any sound in your kit patch, so you could have all the intro synth hits from Big in Japan by Alphaville for example in your kit, sequence them in the correct order and put them on a pad, each time you hit a pad it plays a synth sound in order, hit your snare at the same time and everyone thinks your a genius, even better map the snare trigger to the sequencer and do it with just the snare, change kit patch to the next kit to carry on with a snare sound. Instant cool. You could also do this with alternate hihat sounds and have an evolving hihat sound, my take would be then to put delay in the hihat, ping pong it and put it into a stereo field and it could sound amazing. Masterfx does effect audio in when going out through main outs, if audio in is only routed to headphones then masterfx doesn’t get passed to the signal. This is very important as if you’re receiving an in ear mix via that audio in, you definitely don’t want to add delay to it while you’re trying to listen to it, if you’re sending that audio in out through your master outs you do want masterfx to work, and then they work in your headphone mix as well. Cool feature and well thought out. Turns out the resampling and performance sampling i hadn't found was actually solved, the sampling mode has a choice of inputs, input from audio in jack or input from pads, or both, so if you want to record a performance, merge two samples or do anything that is not in the menu from the old one, you can actually do it this way. This also includes the masterfx as a sampling manipulation. It’s actually pretty awesome when you do it. Still annoyed that masterFX is global and doesn't change with kit, that'd be cool and losing 4 masterFX buttons when they could have given us 4 programmable ones is annoying. Trigger banks is also annoying but then the first update might change that. Sounds can be edited for pitch, and for decay very easily and can be blended with cross fade from velocity, switched from velocity too, all in all a much faster way to edit your sounds when you turn up at a gig and the sounds you thought were ok have too much bottom end through the ginormous PA speakers and with a turn of a knob you can change the sound. So my only real quibbles after playing with it and finding out what it’s about are no trigger banks, no global masterfx toggle global/kit., these could be addressed by a firmware upgrade, the loss of 4 masterfx knobs can’t really be changed so I might carry a seperate fx unit for slicing incoming audio and dj style fx if I ever need it.
@jarrahdrum
@jarrahdrum Жыл бұрын
hey hello, just to let you know, this coming Saturday Chris Whitten will be demonstrating this at The Drum Depot in Cardiff. Its a free event and its from 10 am till 5pm.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Great to know, thanks!
@gokcedayanc
@gokcedayanc Жыл бұрын
hi, biggest problem is can't change the loop tempo.
@paradiddle16
@paradiddle16 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you can pitch samples easily now just like any proper sampler does. The old way of resampling with pitchshift on the spd-sx was so crappy and clunky. Impossible on the fly. Complained so much to Roland about this. Definitely picking it up when it comes out.
@stefanvombruch5649
@stefanvombruch5649 Жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual! If Roland would have put in the pads and multisample capabilities of the SPD-30 we would have the dream multipad. But I guess they don‘t want to diminish revenue with a possible update to the SPD-30.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, I agree - having some fully playable VDrums style sounds would make this nearly perfect in playability terms. The TM-6 Pro sort of straddles the halfway point between "sample player" and "VDrums module", but of course that has no built in pads and much more limited sample memory. Roland definitely prefer to keep certain distinctions between products in place so that there's never one "perfect" solution.
@erikm5753
@erikm5753 Жыл бұрын
We just need to develop something that is open source and put Roland out of business or make them change.
@TheDigitalMD
@TheDigitalMD Жыл бұрын
@@erikm5753 Yeah good luck with that since consumers don't have any means of actually creating useful multi-layer samples, and of course Roland's market just continues to grow as they relegate the competition to has been status.
@Kreln1221
@Kreln1221 8 ай бұрын
*11:21** You'd think that after almost a decade and a half of being on the market, that Roland would release an updated model to replace the venerable SPD-30. Perhaps an Octopad SPD-30 Pro or SPD-40, or maybe even a new **_"DoDecapad"_** series, with four bar triggers allong the top, (like the three along the top of the SPD-SX Pro.)* *With a couple more dual trigger inputs, and a sound engine derived from current generation pro grade V-Drum Modules, with all the trigger inputs adaptable to any current or previous generation Roland trigger model. Basically, a pro level V-Drum brain, but with eight, (or twelve), built in pads.* *With six fully configurable dual trigger inputs, you could use a possible configuration such as this, (in addition to the eight or twelve pads already built in),...* *Input 1/2 - (split with Y-cable)* *Input 1 - V-Kick, w/ double pedals* *Input 2 - V Floor Tom* *Input 3/4 - Dual Zone V-Snare* *Input 5/6 - (split with Y-cable)* *Input 5 - Single Zone V-High Tom* *Input 6 - Single Zone V-Low Tom* *Inputs 7/8 & 9 - Triple Zone V-Ride* *(Y-cable used on input 9/10.)* *Input 10 - Single Zone V-Crash* *Input 11/12 - Dual Zone V-Hat, (plus additional Hat Control jack)* *You could start with just an SPD-30 Pro or SPD-40 and a KD-140 Kick Pad, and have a fully functional, (though slightly limited) kit. Then you can add a dual zone hat, (with Hat/Expression pedal), triple zone ride, and a single zone crash, as logistics permit Then just add three single zone mesh toms, and you'll end up with an extremely powerful and versatile mini-kit...*
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 8 ай бұрын
I'd certainly be up for an updated Octapad! The SPD-30 one of the few pieces of eDrum gear that I've sold and I often miss using it.
@AGNDJGaming
@AGNDJGaming Жыл бұрын
I’m new to electronic instruments. Should I get this along with a Fantom 07 & TD-07 kit, or is that overlapping instruments?
@lgovantes1
@lgovantes1 6 ай бұрын
Great video and synopsis of the SPD SX pro. I want to know how this compares with the HPD-20? Can you comment on this?
@mattryan6886
@mattryan6886 Жыл бұрын
The spd-sx pro is the pad the Alesis Strike Multipad could have been if Alesis would listen to its customers feed back. Alesis stop putting out firmware/feature updates, improvements 2 years ago. Roland’s new editing software is exactly what users have been wanting for past 5 years. Roland refuses to make iOS/android control apps like Yamaha’s dtx m-12. Putting the advanced sequencer feature back along with hihat control inputs!!!!!
@karlitosyeye
@karlitosyeye 24 күн бұрын
Great video! Where did you get that user manual? Can you provide the link?
@steevidrums
@steevidrums Жыл бұрын
This does look like and absolute beast of a machine, and yep, the price does reflect that. It will come down to whether in a gig to gig basis, would someone require all those features. I personally don't even have any kind of multi pad, but have considered it on occasions, but never have. The feature that appeals to me (apart from the obvious of just triggering loops/hitting samples) is the multi track stereo play back via direct outs and being able to have a custom click track to. the headphones, but seeing as I got that with the Mimic, I wouldn't be purchasing this anytime for that.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Yup, totally. Fair enough if you don't have use for one! Yeah, as you say, the extra pad link and "wave as click" abilities make this an even better backing track player than the previous version since you can separate things out as extra tracks. But whether it's worth the cash for that or if it's even necessary depends on the band/act.
@bradroulston5729
@bradroulston5729 Жыл бұрын
Lucky enough to have one already and like you a long time SPDSX user. It is definitely a massive improvement and I am really enjoying it. Great video mate
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, Brad! Glad you're enjoying it!
@junak2003
@junak2003 Жыл бұрын
I may have understood this wrong, but for the formats, they're listed as input formats, from the Roland video I saw I took this to mean while you could import, for example an mp3, it would convert it to WAV for use in the SPD-SX Pro. I'd double check that.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Ahh, you could be right there. Will check and add a correction if necessary.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
You were absolutely right, I'd somehow missed that everything appears to get converted to 48Khz 16-bit format on import. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I'm trimming it out so that it doesn't mislead people!
@rajeshdjmixteenmaar6714
@rajeshdjmixteenmaar6714 Жыл бұрын
Super sir thanks for information
@ggockma20
@ggockma20 Жыл бұрын
I’ve played a few gigs with this pad and I noticed some glitches. One is when I would launch a backing track on one drum set and then switch drum sets to play over, occasionally the backing track just stops playing (def did not hit the all sound off button) as well as during the last set the volume just shit out entirely. Had to reset the device, pull out the output jacks and then plugged them back in. Only after that did it work, and they weren’t pulled out. Only have had the pad for 6 months but I noticed this tends to happen when the volume is turned all the way up. Essentially never happens when I play at moderate volumes. I was so happy to use this live but now reconsidering. Has anyone else had these issues??
@bandwagon7178
@bandwagon7178 Ай бұрын
Oh ok I feel better that I’m not the only one with pad sensitivity issues on top row. But at the same time I feels frustrated that this is a known thing so I guess I just need to get on wit it? Anyway great video
@patrickjones247
@patrickjones247 Жыл бұрын
If I am using a click track or a backing track, or a loop do I now have the ability to speed it up or slow it down?
@Drum2
@Drum2 Жыл бұрын
Looks great, I loved my SPD-SX SE. But I would be very worried about hitting that screen with a stick. Plus, seeing as its the flagship latest model, that is does not support any of Roland's digital elements, snare, ride or HiHat. So I could not use it as a mini kit build for example as I have all three digital elements. Still a lovely add-on for any drummer/kit though.
@LocaliLLocano
@LocaliLLocano Жыл бұрын
I have been using my Alesis strike multipad for the past two years and the odds of you hitting the screen are rare. Your stick lands outside of the screen area just in case you fumble
@ChrisBealsNashville
@ChrisBealsNashville Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned MANY Alternate Mode, KAT, Hart Dynamics, YAMAHA, ROLAND and ALESIS products. I actually suggested to ALESIS that the lights be added for function purposes to differentiate the assigned sounds(for both type and duration of playback). Not even 6 months later I was thrilled to see those features implemented. The next step(where pads and lights are concerned)??? Backlit pads with the name of the sound assigned showing through. ;) Not sure why it took Roland so long to ‘catch up’ to what ALESIS brought to the table with the Strike MultiPad…but they have listened to the requests by users for the live/touring and midi-conscious end users/programmers. It would seem that they’ve sort of ‘justified’ this unit by adding more features than what most drummers/percussionists would need. YAMAHA did this for years and were WAY ahead of the curve in functionality even in the mid 90’s!!! Yamaha basically gave drummer keyboard functionality in their DTX lines back THEN but many drummer didn’t know how to implement it. @Tony Verderosa and @Akira Jimbo toured and performed clinics to demonstrate those features(on steroids IMHO) to gain interest/sales/end user creative juices flowing. I mean…9 SAMPLE LAYERS PER PAD dynamically?!?! That was available in 1996!!! Wow! I’ll have to play one of these to justify the purchase. I know most of my editing happens on my computer with studio headsets or monitors to get the sounds just right before importing. Although with the ALESIS Strike MultiPad I DO alter samples (start/end points) ONboard all too often. For NOW?….ALESIS is fine for me. ;) cb
@keithcrupi5810
@keithcrupi5810 Жыл бұрын
So happy you mentioned Tony Verderosa 👍🥁 a pioneer
@SurgeOn1972
@SurgeOn1972 Жыл бұрын
Greetings. Ive still yet to get my stereo TRS cable that splits into 2 monos out to respond to any two triggers. Only one of the 2 works on any given 4 trigger outputs.. Any help at all would be greatness. Thank you! Still experimenting with all the cables I have and this split method from one trigger to two trigger outputs is yet to occur.
@JEsho
@JEsho Жыл бұрын
Great Video! one question, does it have Pad "TEMPO MATCH" like the spd-sx? I'm trying to sync the tempo of the loop/Pad with the tempo of the Kit, so that way I could adjust the tempo of the kit live and have all the 9 pads sync to Kit Tempo. Thanks
@rom-tb8dp
@rom-tb8dp 8 ай бұрын
No tempo match on spd sx pro
@TheDigitalMD
@TheDigitalMD Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Hope the Pro will move from the early adopters pricing to more attractive "street" pricing soon.
@GeorgeFalconer
@GeorgeFalconer 5 ай бұрын
...that doesn't seem to be happening! :(
@gunrugger
@gunrugger Жыл бұрын
I have a td-11kv and I want to eventually upgrade to a td-50kv2 The thing is, it's a LOT of money, and it's gonna take some time to save up all that cheddar. Is it possible to go midi out from the td-11 into the SPD-SX/SPD-SX pro and get sounds from triggering from all the pads/zones? Basically, I want to replace the sound bank from the td-11 with whatever I load onto the SPD-SX, but still use the entire kit, and hopefully still get the cool features that you get from the SPD-SX. I'm okay with losing the "stepping" samples for now. I just hate the cheesy 11 sounds at this point, but don't want to buy short term gear either. And the SX seems like it would add a lot of cool new tools into my playing surface.
@lucpomfret3364
@lucpomfret3364 10 ай бұрын
Hey man, what was the third party plug-in you mentioned when using the original SPD-sx?
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Жыл бұрын
It’s ROLAND!! Everyone should know that it was going to be expensive…and….I’m going to purchase this model!!!!!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I did expect it to be expensive, but I think I was thrown a bit because they've not gone up to this price band for a sample pad before, as far as I'm aware. Of course I'm pretty likely to get it though 😂 it solves the bulk of my issues with the SPD-SX.
@grooveincorporated
@grooveincorporated Жыл бұрын
Great video. So much better than the Roland comparison
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@482jpsquared
@482jpsquared Жыл бұрын
It does seem to add a lot more functionality, but are the onboard sounds improved? Perhaps that's not as big an issue for this type of device, as it is for modules. Some day, I hope, The SPD range will also have multi-layered sounds or at least something beyond one-shot and two-layered sounds.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I didn't even think to talk about them as I personally rarely use any onboard sounds with my SPD-SX! There are a LOT more sounds, so at least there's plenty of choice. I believe a lot of the acoustic sounds recorded for the TM-6 Pro have been put in. But yes, single layer or 2 layer only, unfortunately. If they come out with a new Octapad, having it be as playable as the newer Roland drum modules would be great.
@TheDigitalMD
@TheDigitalMD Жыл бұрын
The sounds are great as long as you remember that sample pads are for accessory percussion and sound and not intended to replace drum kits. The sound engine is completely different and it must be that way to allow for adding your own samples, which is the main purpose.
@Guitarkungfu
@Guitarkungfu 11 ай бұрын
Uh oh, I got one to be a mini kit with sampling.
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic Жыл бұрын
Good video 👍🏻
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!
@DrumGun76
@DrumGun76 Жыл бұрын
Any idea if you can have different click subdivisions for each kit? That was the most annoying thing about previous versions. Universal subdivisions forced me to sample clicks into the machine. Would love to just use the internal click.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'm not sure! I've not dived into that section of the manual too heavily yet and I've not used one so I can't confirm. Personally I tend to just make my own click tracks, but I can see why using the internal click would be advantageous for some uses.
@StefanKampe-bm5jj
@StefanKampe-bm5jj 11 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for your video. I've got a question about the MIDI clock. Our drummer wants to by a SPD-SX pro, is it possible that the Roland sends MIDI clock signals to my Nord stage to sync it with the Roland? I understand that the old SX can't do that. Didn't find info online...
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 11 ай бұрын
Hi. I've not used it myself, so I can't confirm it myself but apparently the Pro does transmit and receive MIDI clock. From what I've read might be a couple of cases where it doesn't work perfectly with certain devices. This thread on the VDrums Forum is where I got this info, so might be best to have a look and see if anything in there helps - www.vdrums.com/forum/general/products/1275892-roland-spd-sx-pro-midi-bpm-out
@francornejo8497
@francornejo8497 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see/hear that hihat controler working.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
There's a short clip of it on Roland's "Introducing" video here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rc6KntOc0dXSXX0.html It's going to be reasonably limited as you'll only have one sample for closed and one for open, but it could work well for certain sounds!
@Y8S
@Y8S Жыл бұрын
What about the internal click? I’ve been waiting for years to hit a pad which triggers your backing track and simultaneously starts the internal click which you can control the volume. Does anyone know if that’s possible? The idea is to have control of your click volume on the unit without effecting the backing track volume. Cheers
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I've not fully explored the metronome functions yet and I'm about to go away for a week so I'm not sure I'll have the chance to have a look at that soon. However, from looking at the Reference Manual (page 107), you can set up a pad to trigger the click when it is hit (this is system-wide, so that pad/trigger will always be the metronome on every kit). I'm assuming you can then use this in tandem with the Pad Link function so that this pad triggers at the same time as your backing track or vice versa. There are a few different modes that you can use for the way it plays - starts when you hit the pad, restarts from beat one every time you hit it or alternate. I don't know if it works as smoothly as that in practice until I get the time to try it though.
@Hansenfutz
@Hansenfutz Жыл бұрын
Does adjusting the tempo also change the tempo of the pattern/sample?
@rom-tb8dp
@rom-tb8dp 8 ай бұрын
no it doesn't
@cristaples
@cristaples Жыл бұрын
It could do with trigger banks too. Having to change settings for different types of gigs is annoying. If I go from triggering 4 toms, kick and snare then go to a gig needing a trigger pedal and some bar triggers I need time to program it. If I have trigger banks I can set it up for changing kit configurations. That would be a pro feature.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! I didn't think about this before getting it but now that it's arrived, it's such an obvious omission.
@cristaples
@cristaples Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop it’d be nice if masterfx could be changed with the kit as well as an option. All could be done with firmware update. Surprised stereo delay doesn’t get a ping pong option as standard, I have to use two tap delay and it’s not as cool as the old one.
@TheDigitalMD
@TheDigitalMD Жыл бұрын
You can do this by doing a full backup with the settings you need. When you backup the entire unit or save/load data, all data from the kits, system and waves is saved and can be restored as needed. If you have multiple configurations you simply need multiple backups with the different settings.
@Guitarkungfu
@Guitarkungfu 11 ай бұрын
Have you figured out a way to create a dynamic hi hat? I've noticed I can't create a hi hat splash sound or halfopen.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
I've managed to create a pad chain where you can kind of round-robin the hi-hats to make them more varied (though at the expense of using up other pads on the unit). However it's not possible to make splashes or variations in open sound from the pedal, as far as I'm aware. For something like that you might be better off looking at a full module or possibly the SPD-30 (I *think* it can do those.)
@Guitarkungfu
@Guitarkungfu 10 ай бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I know that the spd sx pro detects the pedal pad pressure very accurately. It was a weird design choice by roland to exclude that feature. Especially since the function is really just a dynamic fade between open and closed. I just sold my spd 20 pro, which could do it. I'm hoping that a software update will address this. It's kind of a kick in the nuts to suggest buying another octapad for that very simple function.
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I literally just unboxed my Alesis strike multipad I got 2 days ago and mounted on my drum rack....any thoughts on this vs the Alesis version? Thinking I should box it back up and return it now even though this is far more expensive.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 Жыл бұрын
Box it back up dude. No sample management software and really crappy hi hat control. If those 2 things don't bother you, keep it.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I've not used the Alesis Strike Multipad to any extent myself so I really couldn't say. I've seen a few complaints (as pointed out by Arbogast), including some SD card corruptions. I've personally found Alesis hardware to be a little unreliable at times (Strike module and their pads), but then any time it's brought up there are a big wave of responses of people with reportedly no issues and who love it. Roland have a generally great track record of reliability and this is based on previous tech, but it's also incredibly expensive for a sample pad.
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Cool, man thanks for the info!
@skirwan78
@skirwan78 Жыл бұрын
​@@arbogast4950 Yeah the lack of management software I think is alone enough for me to box it back up. Don't think I'll ever need the HH as I'm using it as a percussion pad and some extra inputs on my e-kit alongside a pearl mimic wanted something condense with a lot of pads close to one another and the SD-30 is wicked outdated with no sample loading and the SPD-SX didn't have enough ports for me and again, was pretty old with minor revisions. The lights and the screen were a big selling point but the new SPDSX Pro adds the things I wanted from the Strike Multipad
@mickwade9499
@mickwade9499 Жыл бұрын
Box it. And this is coming from a Strike Multipad user that just traded up to an SPD-SX Pro. Moving on to a company that gives a shit more than Alesis does.
@DevrajEvent
@DevrajEvent Жыл бұрын
Can I load Old Spdxs Back-Up in spd Sx pro ??
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I've not had a chance to test this yet unfortunately and I'm currently away. My guess is that they won't be compatible with the new software, based on past experience with Roland. It would be nice if I'm wrong though and hopefully I can confirm when I'm back.
@djashjones
@djashjones Жыл бұрын
Anyone found an instrument list document yet? spd-30 == 670, spd-sx == 210, sdp-sx pro == 1550
@3rdGen-Media
@3rdGen-Media Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the SPD-SX PRO have any v-drum sounds but the TM-6 pro does? If the TM-6 Pro is capable of v-drum sound generation using intermediate sounds generators to mix the articulations before sending to the generator's main output then surely they could provide updates like they do with the TD-17, no? Why do these devices support an additional sub sound generator/midi mapping for the hi-hat pedal foot-splash but are conspicuously missing for the ride bell trigger or snare x-stick? These are just buffers filled with samples and general purpose processing performed on them as dictated by the firmware. I would shell out $3K for a TD-50x and be done with it if i knew I could achieve 3D mixes with each line out treated as an individual mic'd piece without having to rely on any VSTs. I have similar gripes about SD3, its enormous cost, and the fact that only *some* pieces in the Decades + Hitmaker SDX upgrades are the only usable things about it -- there is no one stop shop for a full unprocessed kit worth of great acoustic articulations for all pieces that are tuned properly at time of recording when they hit the D/A and don't impart the ambience of the environment they were recorded in. Some pre-amp flavor is ok but you don't have to send everything or imo anything through a vintage Neve. I am so sick of Roland bogarting their best v-drum sounds for the more expensive modules when their trigger+sampling modules and non-flagship v-drum modules are capable of having and playing back the same best acoustic articulations. From a marketing perspective even if you are going to claim that a TD-50's hardware includes an upgraded processor to support the overhead of additional sound generators and unnecessary filters like 40" hi-hat modeling and half-baked digital environment ambience there is no reason why the complete v-drum software package for all of this could not be provided as standalone desktop software or a DAW plugin licensed to anyone that has purchased a Roland brand trigger + sound generation module that supports Roland v-drum triggers. I am fine with paying a premium for hardware features in a drum module which contains Roland stamp of approval trigger processing compatible with genuine Roland triggers but *not* for their software and especially not for software that is intentionally being limited on comparable hardware processors for profit. It's unethical. For owners of this and the TM-6 Pro waiting in vain for updates that will never come hoping for any droplet of v-drum style sound expansion at all it seems Roland may have intended going down this path in the past as evidenced by the discontinued Acoustic-One Drum Studio instrument for the Concerto DAW plugin available for free through Roland Cloud. I haven't been able to get it to work as a multi-output instrument in Logic and its maxing out my CPU on an M1 Max studio (a problem that seems to be commonly reported with Roland Cloud plugins) but the hi-hat alone seems pretty strong. I wonder if Luke has tried Acoustic-One before and might consider evaluating/comparing to the raw sounds across the current 2.0 updates to the TD-17, TD-27 and TD-50 modules.
@amarthalurinagaraju6283
@amarthalurinagaraju6283 Жыл бұрын
How mouch Roland SX pro pad price
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
The price in 3 different regions (UK, US and Europe) is mentioned within the first minute of the video.
@jamessullenriot
@jamessullenriot Жыл бұрын
More inputs and outputs - other than that it’s the strike multipad. Just my opinion of course
@mefrnetperron9176
@mefrnetperron9176 Жыл бұрын
with editing software, which will never be implemented on the Alesis, just from the firmware upgrade fiasco
@chriscuthbertson
@chriscuthbertson Жыл бұрын
Is it twice as good as a Strike?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends what you mean by that. I've seen a lot of complaints from people having problems with the Strike Multipad, ranging from minor bugs to complete corruptions of memory rendering it practically useless. So in that respect, if this Pro model is as reliable as the original generally was, it's probably going to be twice as good, if not more. Some people have reported no issues with their Strike Multipad, but inconsistency is a theme with Alesis products. If you're fortunate enough to have no problems with the Strike, whether or not you think the features and other elements of the SPD-SX Pro are twice as good is a completely different thing, though.
@chriscuthbertson
@chriscuthbertson Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I'm looking at options for my bands non tech savvy drummer, to play backing tracks and some one shots. Was looking at a Strike until the new SPD arrived. Is an original SPD-SX still a good option, I guess there maybe a few used ones for sale with the new one being released. Happy to spend around the £500 mark but £1000 will be a stretch for just dipping our toes in to backing tracks. Any suggestions welcomed.
@DrumRoody
@DrumRoody Жыл бұрын
I like it and will probably buy it, but a single usb digital pad input would have made this a take-my-money situation
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
What do you feel would be the benefit of being able to use a digital pad on it?
@TheDigitalMD
@TheDigitalMD Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop People keep trying to make a sample pad into something its not intended to be .... a replacement for a edrum module. That's a completely different function which requires a completely different sound engine. I would recommend if that's your primary application, Roland has several excellent drum modules that allow you to load user samples as well. Of course they are not sample pads, they are drum modules.
@dips455
@dips455 Жыл бұрын
Tempo synchronization is not there
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
So I hear. There are maybe 2 more features that I've noticed since that are also omitted, so the idea that it can "do everything the original can do" doesn't seem to be that accurate, unfortunately 😔
@AdrianLugo1967
@AdrianLugo1967 Жыл бұрын
I play an SPD SX at my church, and I was not aware of the hi hat expression capability. With that being said, I never was a fan of the bar pads, and the sounds. Now that they have DW kits installed, I guess I'll be fitting the stereotype of a musician who has all kinds of cool equipment, but no $$
@harmonicgraffiti
@harmonicgraffiti 4 ай бұрын
Rooooting
@ilvdico
@ilvdico Жыл бұрын
It's an awesome device, but I wish it had a lower price.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It's a big ask!
@djashjones
@djashjones Жыл бұрын
First and £999 pre orders in the UK at the moment
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Yep. Big ol' spenny Roland. I expected it to be pricey but I was still quite surprised, purely because they've not broached this price bracket for a sample pad (as far as I can recall).
@djashjones
@djashjones Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I was expecting £1200, since quite a few of their stuff have increased in price and still stock issues for pads and hardware. Looking forward to the review.
@eDrummerLife
@eDrummerLife Жыл бұрын
Really nice tool... now is this is the multipad to beat! But, 1200 euro... really?? It's really too much, in a few months maybe I'll find a used one, but it will be too expensive anyway!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree that the price is OTT for a Multipad. If it wasn't being sold as a Pro version and was a "sequel" instead, I think it would be a harder sell. They definitely planned that right!
@marinusjm
@marinusjm Жыл бұрын
Everything gets more expensive, unfortuntely 😢
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Very true!
@jimistixxdrums
@jimistixxdrums Жыл бұрын
Heads up: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLlifNmptbuqZo0.html
@TheeDrumWorkshop
@TheeDrumWorkshop Жыл бұрын
That's very weird.
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