The NEW SU-27SM Ended Up Being Disappointing...

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The NEW SU-27SM Ended Up Being Disappointing...

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Күн бұрын

The new SU-27SM Isn't bad, its just that other nations have caught up to the su-27 meta and surpassed it... so it doesnt feel as good as the OG SU-27 when it got released that had the nº1 spot
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@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

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@GeneralArmchair Ай бұрын

Su-27 meta? The Flanker was never meta. The F-16C and Grippen dominated the previous patch and the Flanker was so bad that not a single person flew it during gaijin's twitch tournament when prizes were on the line.

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

The su-27 was by far the best for air rb battles; hands down... idk about tournaments with actual dogfights... but in a 16v16 it was simply better

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

@@GeneralArmchair How big were the tournament maps? Probably not room for BVR...if they were you would see 27ER every where, 5.8M vs 4M AIM-7M is not even close! AND the multipathing back then was at 100m, now it's at 60m!

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

@acdfg3 don’t forget the fact it had 10 missiles total including the only IR long range In game (r27et) with gatewidgh IRCCM

@altacc0604 Ай бұрын

@@D4nger_CLO5EThe Er is much faster than the sparrow, but it can achieve mach 5.8. However in game, it will not hit mach 5 normally. It will only be hypersonic when you fire it over mach 1 at 12km altitude. So usually when u face it its like mach 4.5

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

@@altacc0604 I agree, and this applies to the 7M and it's even slower!

@anabolti682 Ай бұрын

Honestly I got the plane and Im struggling so bad. In 24 games I got 4 kills. Being stock of makes it harder, but nobody is playing the su27s anymore, and everyone is just in f15s spamming aim120as, it's retarded, as the su27 is just complete underpowered shit. Idk what to do lol.

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

@@anabolti682 just don’t play it lol🫡

@lequipu7777 3 күн бұрын

The only thing that I heard was : "pirivytit ugo atakia"

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

The problem is it seems they nerffed the radar refresh rate on both of the Flankers. So now in a head on it can at times take multiple seconds to lock or even pick them up on radar. VS a 16 or 15 this will get you killed 90% of the time as their radars refresh almost instantly, maybe 1 second max vs your multiple second refresh, some times up to 4 or 5 seconds ☠️ RIP

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

@@D4nger_CLO5E radar takes 8 seconds to do a full 60x10° scan

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

@@BiasedThunder was it that long last patch??? I have over 2k games in my first Flanker it's refresh rate did not feel this slow last patch!

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

@@D4nger_CLO5E yep! Doing a full vertical scan has always taken 8 seconds, and su27 doesn’t have any other src angles to fasten it… however between left-right cycles it covers some part of the vertical angle so it’s possible to refresh instantaneous

@endeavourxj Ай бұрын

the way I play su-27sm is 4xr73, 4xr77, 2xr27et, I launch 1 or 2 missiles at 9-10km altitude from 35-45km, sometimes I hit the target but most of the times I don't. I then turn away and wait for my team and enemies to engage and then I sneak above and launch 2 r-27et and 80% of the time I score 2 kills with this missile, its still S tier for its mach 6 speed and range and enemies don't get missile warning because its IR missile then I finish the rest of the enemies with r-77 from 10-25km range imo we need r-77-1 but only new flankers can carry it such as su-30, su-35 and su-57

@kurou_Uw Ай бұрын

we basically already have R-77-1

@user-qn3xu5ee3t Ай бұрын

@@kurou_Uw wut

@FutureGohanGlazer Ай бұрын

@@user-qn3xu5ee3the means thst because R-77 doesnt irl loft but in game it does which is something only R-77-1 does

@others1dee 5 күн бұрын

Now imagine what J11A players feel..

@BiasedThunder 5 күн бұрын

@@others1dee pain… unending pain… I’m still 410k rp points away (since day 1)

@BEAFBOOF Ай бұрын

Hey man just wanted to comment and say that you have a great format going on for these videos. your videos are really short and easy to watch, they have a great informative balance between guide and review and overall the video and production quality is great. I also got some suggestions for ya, if you wanted to reach a greater audience with these kinda videos perhaps doing some lower tier (3.7 to early jets is probably what I would do) videos that newer players can relate to. anyway keep it up what your doing here is great. (ps) keep up advertising the channel at the start of games because thats where i came from.

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

thx a lot for the time and effort! im very happy you like them. For now i think im going to stick to upper vehicles since its what I enjoy most❤

@albinoalpaca1059 Ай бұрын

4:03 So when your HMD gets chaffed like this example, keep your radar lock on the chaff. The radar cone is pretty large and its worth it to keep it on even if its not locked on your enemy directly. If you werent using a FOX3 here, the missile may have missed due to dropping the lock

@goliath3413 Ай бұрын

its funny when all f16s, mirages and grippens got a buff so that their radar doesn't lock chaff, but ussr china and germany got left out.

@dsawf4317 Ай бұрын

MAH BOI BEEN COOKING 🔥🔥🔥

@SukhoiWolf Ай бұрын

Just another reason to check out the R-77 in DCS 😉

@MeanHereAT Ай бұрын

A sim with dice-roll CM's, no Mig-23, no modern MiG-29 or modern Flanker, no RCS or ground clutter not actually existing on most non PD radars.😘

@SukhoiWolf Ай бұрын

@@MeanHereAT Compare that to Cringethunder mechanics

@MeanHereAT Ай бұрын

@@SukhoiWolf Lmao there is no comparison, glazing like no tomorrow isn't going to make you right.🤣 Can you even come up with a counter-argument?

@SukhoiWolf Ай бұрын

@MeanHereAT never said I was right about anything, all I said was to check out the R-77 in dcs, you're the one who started the comparison. 🤷‍♂️

@MeanHereAT Ай бұрын

@@SukhoiWolf"Compare that to Cringethunder mechanics"

@raahimcheema9834 Ай бұрын

Im the guy who lost his wing mid match, you get a sub tho

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

ty man

@MARVEL_And_DC222 Ай бұрын

Hi its me played with you now in wt. Remember me? From the game vs the last f5c... just wanted to let you know that Your vids are really good bro

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

thx a lot man😁that game was close

@MeanHereAT Ай бұрын

Meanwhile J-11A being sad

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

fr... J-11A is even worse.... like at least you get MAWS but not having a good RWR is such a pain

@bigmemer4398 24 күн бұрын

@@BiasedThunder one datalink channel is the WORST

@FM-hw8yv Ай бұрын

And the f4f ICE wasnt ruined by this meta?

@velvetthunder96 Ай бұрын

it has the 120A which is a great plus, its the airframe that's really sad on that

@anonymous63332 24 күн бұрын

Where is the super maneuverable ?

@shahbaz6741 Ай бұрын

Reddit wont tell me so ill take to youtube, whats better in speed,missiles, maneuvers and canons mig29 or su27

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

@@shahbaz6741 the 27 is better at all of it...except the 29SMT has a better radar then the Flankers. Maneuvers, Missile count, Speed. The 29SMT and the 27SM both get the R77, the 27 can take 10 missiles total, the 29SMT 6 total. They both have the same 30mm cannon, no difference there.

@shahbaz6741 Ай бұрын

@D4nger_CLO5E I'm on rank 5 got there in 1 week , wondering what I should dogfight in the su27 or mig29 HOWEVER I keep hearing the su27 has a bad flight model and is a bad plane compared to the mig 29 is this true?

@Boris_The_Turtle Ай бұрын

Su-27 Still you will get rinsed by the NATO stuff because they are that much better.

@D4nger_CLO5E Ай бұрын

@@Boris_The_Turtle Well I don't play SB Air but I do play ARB and yes the 16 and 15 hold energy better, with the high off bore 73 you can get very nice kills in close. I also don't find it hard to force an over shoot when using the Flanker....Guns only though the Flanker gets smoked though.

@Boris_The_Turtle Ай бұрын

@@D4nger_CLO5E Yeah, most players don’t bother slowing down or properly reacting to you, so you can use the speed loss to fire an R-73 and win. The F-16s, F-15s, etc should win every time but I guess they don’t want to lol. If they show signs of brain activity you may end up toast though.

@DucksRCool2 Ай бұрын

I swear i saw u in a viggen but u crashed so u didnt really be able to do anything :(

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

@@DucksRCool2 😭😭😭 never text drive

@luyithunder Ай бұрын

Por la voz se nota que eres español

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

Es lo que hay… (yo creo que la escarapela de la foto de perfil también ayuda)

@afixd.0 Ай бұрын

i fw u

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

fw?

@kerotomas1 Ай бұрын

"other nations have caught up to the su-27 meta and surpassed it" Noo how is that possible that not something russian is the best? Seriously Gaijin how?

@Elturbo157 Ай бұрын

Surprisingly 😮😲😱🤯

@BiasedThunder Ай бұрын

Even if they were in favour of Russian equipment I believe they are interested in making more money… forcing players to grind another nation to have the best plane

@rakamakaffo Ай бұрын

@@BiasedThunderЭто ты точно сказал. Чтобы больше привлечь прозападную аудиторию

@ZLEEP2324 25 күн бұрын

Damn so are we gonna forget how the f14 terrorized top tier for half a year with literally no competition added to face up to it?

@kerotomas1 24 күн бұрын

@@ZLEEP2324 And are you going to forget that while that at the exact same time happened in Air RB in Ground RB the Tunguska had no western counterparts and was smashing CAS left and right while the Ka-50 was dominating the ground. So even at that point the US only had some advantage.