The New Sudoku Trick That Almost Nobody Knows

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

2 жыл бұрын

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@nomore6167
@nomore6167 2 жыл бұрын
At 7:32, Simon is "stuck" and asks "So, what should we do now?" Unfortunately for him, he can't use the trick that has worked for me 100% of the time -- stop trying to solve it and watch the video.
@shawon265
@shawon265 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did! 😂
@blanda8821
@blanda8821 2 жыл бұрын
Worked for me haha
@matthewyoung1973
@matthewyoung1973 2 жыл бұрын
Haha me too!
@cluso9985
@cluso9985 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I only needed one “little” clue. I am getting better by watching/solving but I am terribly slow 😂
@Finsirith
@Finsirith Жыл бұрын
@@cluso9985 Yes, as soon as he got the big AHA (that "4" at C4R7), I stopped the video and was able to go over and finish the puzzle on my own.
@laytonspuzzle
@laytonspuzzle Жыл бұрын
nothing has striken more fear into my heart on this channel than seeing a puzzle with the only rules being "Normal sudoku rules apply"
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 8 ай бұрын
True
@tombeal364
@tombeal364 5 ай бұрын
I downloaded the CtC app to see what I could achieve... All went well (but slow) until I came to a "normal" sudoku. I'm far from a genius but I couldn't see how to crack it and had to use the 1st hint to see how to look at solving it.
@daniellehallihan6015
@daniellehallihan6015 5 ай бұрын
I think it's 'struck'. Nothing has struck more fear into my heart. Yeah. That sounds right I think. Sorry, I normally try not to be a douchey grammar policewoman 😂 but I just had to drop a note here. Happy puzzling 🫡😊
@laytonspuzzle
@laytonspuzzle 5 ай бұрын
@@daniellehallihan6015 Thank you, your kind words have stucken my heart
@azzteke
@azzteke 4 ай бұрын
stricken
@danielcavallarigoncalves7309
@danielcavallarigoncalves7309 2 жыл бұрын
I can't deal with the fact that Simon just says "these digits are SUS" now
@EyeDewDie
@EyeDewDie 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the four vent!!!
@nomanatcore
@nomanatcore 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same thing. So good.
@luizzeroxis
@luizzeroxis 2 жыл бұрын
Like, why did he say that? He's clearly not in the joke, didn't seem the type to meme around, he's pretty serious. Maybe he heard other people use it and just sort of accidently internalized it? That's really weird.
@EyeDewDie
@EyeDewDie 2 жыл бұрын
@@luizzeroxis i could see him playing some among us on his down time. If i was a killer in his lobby I'd kill him first. His puzzle solving skills are too good. (edited due to typo)
@higanbanana
@higanbanana 2 жыл бұрын
@@luizzeroxis 'sus' is also just a contraction of 'suspicious'. it's been around in english for quite a while. among us didn't invent 'sus'
@shye229
@shye229 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful solve! especially given the time pressure 😅 you explained the trick exactly the way id envisioned it, always so happy to see that ^^ and happy birthday to mr anthony!
@marshallgarey2913
@marshallgarey2913 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing puzzle, Shye! Thanks for sharing it with all of us!
@RustyBrakes
@RustyBrakes 2 жыл бұрын
Great puzzle! I feel like the box of "maybe a bent triple" combined with the "crank handle" makes a shape that looks like a cell being divided - is that where the name comes from?
@RGS61
@RGS61 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful puzzle Shye! Thank you! .. I would be curious your thoughts re applying the '"slot machine" method to this one, and whether it appears to disprove the "elbow digit" theory?
@firstlast4506
@firstlast4506 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing puzzle, well done!
@shashankjodge974
@shashankjodge974 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this gem of a puzzle
@LornaM2304
@LornaM2304 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to my fitbit I noticed that when I watch CtC videos my heart rate is at its lowest 😅 Cracking the Cryptic scientifically proven to be relaxing! Hope you enjoyed your lunch Simon 😊
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 2 жыл бұрын
And at it’s highest when I try to solve one on my own!!!!!
@jamessweatt985
@jamessweatt985 2 жыл бұрын
Are you even calm when a "cell entirely lets itself down"? ; ^ )
@cgsbdag3235
@cgsbdag3235 2 жыл бұрын
Do
@ostensibly531
@ostensibly531 2 жыл бұрын
Quite the opposite for me
@lisas8614
@lisas8614 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to wear mine again
@Thebrooky12
@Thebrooky12 2 жыл бұрын
my heart skipped a beat when simon said "sus" LOL
@nomanatcore
@nomanatcore 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he says it every video from now on.
@napvs.goldenreaper9715
@napvs.goldenreaper9715 2 жыл бұрын
I've come across your videos within the last week and can't seem to stop consuming them. As a novice sudoku player, your ability to rationalize your way through these is just remarkable. Would you ever consider providing a sudoku video series on how to progressively improve to higher levels? Many thanks for hours of entertainment! Keep it up
@kimberlypreston6204
@kimberlypreston6204 2 жыл бұрын
Simon looks especially handsome today! Happy Birthday to Simon's dad.
@Goryus
@Goryus 2 жыл бұрын
There is an entire class of techniques like this called "Krakens". In each case, the logic is: either this chain is true, or there is a technique here (y-wing, swordfish, it can be any technique). Things like a finned swordfish-kraken can start getting truly monstrous.
@notnotandrew
@notnotandrew 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like gussied-up bifurcation to me :)
@killroy42
@killroy42 2 жыл бұрын
@@notnotandrew shhhh! It's not bifurcation if you can come up with a cool name for it!
@fredhassett8390
@fredhassett8390 2 жыл бұрын
@@killroy42 ,
@RGS61
@RGS61 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Derek - I tried your "slot machine" method here, on 1's .. unfortunately it was not able to yield much, but more interestingly the puzzle seemed to defy the rule of "elbow" digits .. Or perhaps I misunderstood Simon's explanation of the rule, that I took to mean "in a slot machine situation, where there are three candidates in box, the elbow/middle digit , can always be eliminated" ... ??
@MrBlackHawk888
@MrBlackHawk888 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that i understand what you are talking about, but i will like this comment just in case...
@brants.3367
@brants.3367 2 жыл бұрын
Binary fission is a method of asexual cell reproduction where it basically splits into two identical copies of itself. Thanks for the tremendous content!
@davidc1633
@davidc1633 2 жыл бұрын
that's a good hint. If you pencil mark all the possible positions for 1 in the grid and color code them properly you are left with at most 2 options for every box and r7c4 gets resolved that way, because it's not a possible position for a 1.
@jdyerjdyer
@jdyerjdyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidc1633 That was my conclusion on the title. :)
@gr328
@gr328 2 жыл бұрын
Also nuclear chain reactions. It's a hint that it's a convoluted chain I think.
@tonymason6637
@tonymason6637 2 жыл бұрын
"That's the world's most disappointing three". I feel bad for that three now. However, I can't help but laugh lol
@marnak24
@marnak24 Жыл бұрын
I actually laughed out loud at that "world's most disappointing 3" comment. 😀
@PierceArner
@PierceArner 2 жыл бұрын
I love how even before the explanation, you can see Simon's sense out where a bit of logic is hiding itself, before he unearths it for himself. It helps get a handle on what he's working at as he comes up with a way how to gradually extract it from the puzzle in a way that makes sense verbally. Brilliant stuff as always, and wishes of a most pleasant celebration of your dad's annual solar rotation!
@TheNewAccount2008
@TheNewAccount2008 2 жыл бұрын
A long, long time ago, on a Sudoku channel called "Cracking the Cryptic" I learned about a technique called "Slot Machine"... When applied to 1s here, the single 4 is revealed quite quickly. ;-)
@GrantMcLean
@GrantMcLean 2 жыл бұрын
When Simon noted all the diagonally offset Snyder pencil marks, my first thought was "I wish I could remember how that slot machine technique worked" 😃
@RGS61
@RGS61 2 жыл бұрын
I would be curious at what point in the puzzle, and what candidate "1" cell you started the slot machine from, in order to eliminate the '4'? .. Starting the slot machine, before inserting 'any' candidate cells, since we know R7C7 eventually proved to the '1' .. starting the slot machine from the three candidate 1 cells that point at R7C7 (R4C7, R7C4, R7C5) all produced possible (non-contradictory) results .. Also interesting, this puzzle seemed to contradict Derek Neal's hypothesis concerning the ability to eliminate "elbow" digits in a slot machine (or at least my understanding of it) .. In this puzzle, the only cells I was able to eliminate "1s" from using the slot machine method were R4C1 and R6C9
@PowasaurusRex
@PowasaurusRex 2 жыл бұрын
@@RGS61 This was exactly the same conclusion I came to (don't know the slot machine, but by solving for 1's). It wasn't until Simon said that only one of the inner corners could be a 1 that the 4 clicked and the rest fell into place.
@xiuyeyin
@xiuyeyin 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Simon always mentioned his pencilmarking purpose. It reminds me to stick in this method and today I actually spotted the 1s!😌
@chuckdecker3765
@chuckdecker3765 2 жыл бұрын
Simon abandoned marking 1s at 11:30 too soon! If he continued around, he'd have noticed you get only 2 possible places for 1 in every box. One color for one pattern of ones, one for another, and the 14 in r7c4 is instantly resolved and the puzzle collapses after that into a simple elimination. He thought he was misleading us, but, it was the direct path to the solution.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
At that time there was not enough information to get 2 possible places for 1 in every box.
@onestone9871
@onestone9871 Ай бұрын
I still don´t understand and hope someone will help me out. Why has there to ´be a 1 in one of those squares of row seven`. Why can´t there be a one in square 4 of row seven, where is the reason for that. Help, help, help😀
@johnseddon7793
@johnseddon7793 Ай бұрын
I use dots to mark the possibilities in every square - thus 1 is in the top left corner and two to the right of it and so down to 9 at bottom right - this creates a number pattern in the form of double dots, and triple dots, etc - and the pattern of dots/numbers provides the key - or at worst identifies the way forward 🙏
@Zardox2
@Zardox2 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to Simon's Dad! And... Great puzzle, Shye! I got stuck, and had to watch... but I was VERY close to seeing the bent pseudo-triple... just couldn't quite work it out. But, a year ago I wouldn't have even known where to BEGIN to look... so, I guess I'm learning!
@ib9rt
@ib9rt 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the bent pseudo-triple was a red herring. You didn't need it to solve the puzzle. It was enough to spot all the rows, columns and boxes where a 1 could only appear in one of two places, and this was enough to eliminate the 1 from the 14 cell that Simon identified. (Coloring the alternate 1's as red/blue pairs made the logic particularly easy to spot. I think this is where the binary fission from the title came in.)
@vfatil798
@vfatil798 2 жыл бұрын
You know your a CtC fan when you recognize the setters favorite tricks and just stare until you figure it out.
@tofmill3640
@tofmill3640 2 жыл бұрын
"These three cells are a bit sus." - Simon Better sharpen up your scanning if you think at least one of them vented.
@lisaoburke1
@lisaoburke1 2 жыл бұрын
Life lesson from Sudoku: The answer is there! Persist. Trust. Don't give up and you will find it! Thanks for the videos. Love it.
@fisharepeopletoo9653
@fisharepeopletoo9653 2 жыл бұрын
Me after pausing Simon at the start then finishing this puzzle and going back to watch the video: "C'mon Simon I'm already done." Also me: takes over an hour to complete
@daniellehallihan6015
@daniellehallihan6015 5 ай бұрын
Not only was it beautiful watching this come together, with your offset 1s and hypothetical bent triple, but your pure joy and enthusiasm are contagious. I love the respect and awe that you show toward Shye (whoever she is, I'm new to this channel) and the puzzle and its solution. You can just tell you genuinely love what you're doing. And that really speaks to me, as a lover of puzzles myself. The satisfaction I get from solving a tough logic puzzle is so wonderful. And I'm really becoming obsessed with sudoku and learning techniques from you guys. Great channel, great content, and the english accents are the icing on the puzzle cake 😄🧩🎂
@MyReligionIs2DoGood
@MyReligionIs2DoGood 2 жыл бұрын
I solved it by using an WXYZ-Wing (1478 in B5C5G4H5), eliminating the 1 in A4 and G5, followed by the Y-Wing on 789 in C3C7G3, eliminating 9 in G7. Took about an hour. However, the way you solved it is more elegant, and gives me yet _another_ nice technique to use. Thanks a lot! :) What will this technique be called? My suggestion would be 'Bent X-Wing'.
@TalkingInTheDark
@TalkingInTheDark 2 жыл бұрын
I did it using the WXYZ as well. If you see three in a line like ab, abc and abd then look for WXYZ wings.
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r 2 жыл бұрын
Shye. A genius setter. Wow. Every time, it’s just so ridiculously elegant. Well done. And Simon, wonderful solve, way to spot the trick and to analyze it and break it down so well, wonderful job as always.
@_MrL_
@_MrL_ 28 күн бұрын
Video popped up on my YT home screen … the puzzle immediately looked interesting, so I screen shotted the home screen and cleaned it up in photo editing then dropped into books. (i didn’t want ANY clues) I didn’t even open your video. Using a touch pencil only on an iPad screen it took me 12minutes 38 seconds to solve. I then went to look for your video and struggled to find it because I didn’t open it. When I eventually found it, I wanted to see how you solved it… I found myself frustrated straight away that you didn’t see the pair of 6’s in box 2 as for me the 6’s were the key to the quick solve.
@Playmaker6174
@Playmaker6174 2 жыл бұрын
Another classic lesson from the wonderful shye, focus mode on :)
@xinmyname
@xinmyname 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a setting video for this from shye! I got a bit of an "atom smashing" vibe from it. e.g. a 2 would smash into a 25 pair, solving both. Perhaps that's the fission reference? Loved it! And Happy Birthday to Simon's Dad!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Simon's dad!
@sylviacarlson3561
@sylviacarlson3561 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked that whole 1 logic. It was fascinating. Thank you Shye and Simon. LOVE Sudoku!
@sammorley5679
@sammorley5679 2 жыл бұрын
Another masterclass from Shye, absolutely incredible! Please Shye make a setting video for this one too, I found the last one absolutely fascinating!
@jaredwhite4934
@jaredwhite4934 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam
@owo8770
@owo8770 2 жыл бұрын
Does shye have a channel?
@alexanderstelmakh8906
@alexanderstelmakh8906 Жыл бұрын
@@owo8770 She had an account on KZfaq, no puzzles ((
@perpendicularfifths7312
@perpendicularfifths7312 2 жыл бұрын
love shyes puzzles, very excited!
@brianmcadam443
@brianmcadam443 2 жыл бұрын
20:47 solve here, which I am extremely happy with for a shye classic. I've decided that my actual "technique" for any of these classics where there's probably some strange technique is to pencil mark literally the entire grid and then look for cells with not many candidates and how they might interact, because it's usually impossible to spot these things with the usual Snyder notation, etc. I spotted the almost-bent-triple on R3C3 through R7C7 and exactly one them would be a 1. Then added in C5 to get something kinda like an X-wing pointing at R7C4, and that was enough to break it.
@sarahsorlien
@sarahsorlien 2 жыл бұрын
yes solved in 20 min with all pencil marks, hidden doubles (46 & 79) and chains but I really like watching the logic here
@BrBill
@BrBill 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I did it, but I took a few minutes longer.
@angelavonhalle5144
@angelavonhalle5144 8 күн бұрын
I am a fan of this system depending on the set up, does it take longer?sometimes. If time isn't a problem, why not solve sudoku this way, sorry about the simple tactic. It is still a good way to train concentration.
@charliel2967
@charliel2967 2 ай бұрын
I'm new to this but my method is to use dots in each square. 1-top left,2-top middle and so on. It becomes easy the more you do it and i love exploring different ways to solve these. Brilliant puzzle
@afohunter2410
@afohunter2410 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work Simon! Always a pleasure to watch you
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 2 жыл бұрын
Needed to use Simon's heavy prompting about the corners around 14 minutes, but was able to spot the naked single 4 in R7C4 thanks to the way the 178 in R3C3 forced 1 into either R7C5 or R7C7 thanks to the almost Y-Wing and spindle. Very entertaining bit of logic, at which point the puzzle collapses very satisfyingly.
@marquardtsnell7916
@marquardtsnell7916 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working on a puzzle generator which, of course, includes a solver and a grader. My solver caught the 2-5 and 4-6 hidden pairs. That's it. The grader put it as 5 star (anything the solver can't solve) . The grader *did* tell me there is a solution, and only one solution. But it used a recursive "pick one and try to solve it" method. I love the symmetry of this puzzle! Me personally solving it, I also caught a locked pair of 1s in column 7 (rows 4 & 7). I'm not sure it helped, I spent way more than 20 minutes on it. Nice one!
@sudokucafe
@sudokucafe 2 жыл бұрын
Love Love Cracking The Cryptic. I have learned so much watching their video. I am addicted to Sudoku. I probably do 8 to 10 puzzles a day.
@mattiascrowe2549
@mattiascrowe2549 2 жыл бұрын
Figured out an interesting thing on the phistomefel ring is that you can only place 1s in certain places (~16min) because you have to account for 1s in corner squares
@bluerizlagirl
@bluerizlagirl 2 жыл бұрын
We've seen bent triples, but this is more like a pushed-over X-wing! By which I mean, it's forming a parallelogram instead of a rectangle, as though the top row of an X-wing on ones in r3c5, r3c7, r7c5 and r7c7 had been pushed over to the left by two cells .....
@maverickstclare3756
@maverickstclare3756 2 жыл бұрын
My backtracking (i.e. bifurcating) solver took 17s for this one, the previous Shye ones were around 28s, so this is not so bad
@Coyotek4
@Coyotek4 2 жыл бұрын
I'll admit it; I'm not great at 'classic' Sudokus at this site. I was able to find a solution (time: 17:37), but only because I bifurcated and got lucky; I missed the trick in the video completely. Nice puzzle!
@Heistergand
@Heistergand 2 жыл бұрын
21:28 "That's the world's most disappointing three!" Made my day.
@the_credible_hulk
@the_credible_hulk 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed working through that with you (I just used paper & pen). Not sure I would have discovered those offset pairs of 1s without you because I was still looking at row seven as having three possible places for a 1.
@matthallyoutube
@matthallyoutube 10 ай бұрын
ya an r4c7 still can have a 1
@randomviewer896
@randomviewer896 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome techinque! I can't imagine how difficult this would be to spot if the rows and columns were shuffled...
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fun puzzle, as soon as I found out that the r3c3 couldn't be a 1, the entire puzzle basically solved itself.
@samus88
@samus88 2 жыл бұрын
What does she mean she's "really proud of this one"? She should be proud of ALL her Sudokus!!
@christhebrickman3796
@christhebrickman3796 2 жыл бұрын
First time watching your videos. You are really smart. It was really impressive to watch you solve this puzzle 👌
@nomore6167
@nomore6167 2 жыл бұрын
At 20:47, Simon said "Our pencil marks are doing wonders here" as he completely ignored the pencil marks in the entirety of column 5.
@thekingcuber
@thekingcuber 2 жыл бұрын
A while ago you guys had a video of a technique called slot machine which I used to determine that there couldn't be a 1 in the cell. Very useful and I find myself continuing to gravitate towards it when doing puzzles I have a tough time starting out on
@asamirid
@asamirid 5 ай бұрын
seeing simon struggle is very pleasing, i finaly can feel good about myself, amazing attempt to take over the crucial puzzle 💚💚..
@manfredwitzany2233
@manfredwitzany2233 2 жыл бұрын
I have finished the idea about 1s at the beginning of the solve. It was possible to color all boxes with exactly two possibilties for the 1. This directly removed 1 from r7c4 and forced it to be a 4 without the nearly bent tripple. But of course your solve was much more beautyful.
@rabidsamfan
@rabidsamfan 2 жыл бұрын
That is what I did.
@VanpyroGaming0
@VanpyroGaming0 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing. Follow the 1 pencil marks, and you can reduce the 1 down to 2 possibilities in box 8. R7C5, and R9C4. Eliminating it from R7C4
@JoeyNiklas
@JoeyNiklas Жыл бұрын
I'm totally not sure how these vids popped into my algorithm, but I'm loving this. I applied many of these techniques when I'm doing puzzles; however, I never knew that there was specific names for them.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was kinda weird for me as well. I was used to stuff like Minesweeper and other puzzle games and the techniques in those other puzzle games had no names. They were just patterns found with logic that could be applied in many levels, just like in Sudoku but no one named them
@Raven-Creations
@Raven-Creations 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting setting. The bent triple wasn't required; the crank shape formed by the 1s was sufficient. If you set R3C3=1, you get a complete set of 1s. If instead you set R7C7=1, you get a different, non-overlapping set. These form two skyscrapers, which can eliminate 1s from R4 in box 4 and R6 in box 6. Crucially, it also rules out 1 from R7C4, making it 4. Following through on this placement, the puzzle quickly unravelled.
@fvni
@fvni 2 жыл бұрын
A deceptively difficult puzzle. This is one of the best of your solves, kudos Simon.
@jonhansen9622
@jonhansen9622 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to Simon's Dad! Great solve today!
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 2 жыл бұрын
Rules: 02:42 Let's get cracking: 03:02 And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Stuck: 4x (04:49, 08:41, 16:38, 16:41) Beautiful: 4x (01:40, 17:57, 23:16, 27:22) Useless: 3x (09:55, 16:26, 16:29) Sorry: 3x (06:37, 11:17, 12:17) Hang On: 3x (15:14, 18:14, 25:28) The Answer is: 2x (21:13, 23:26) Nonsense: 2x (18:14, 25:20) Gorgeous: 2x (02:34, 24:58) Bother: 1x (12:39) Clever: 1x (27:01) Recalcitrant: 1x (25:08) Incredible: 1x (01:24) Take a Bow: 1x (27:24) By sudoku: 1x (21:04) Approachable: 1x (01:03) Famous Last Words: 1x (03:18) FAQ: Q1: What is a Simarkism? A1: A Simarkism is something that Simon and Mark typically or frequently say. Q2: How do you do this so fast? A2: I'm not made of flesh and blood, but of sand ... Q3: Why don't you include 'XX' and 'YY'? A3: Probably it's already on the list ('Scooby-Doo' for example), but not mentioned in this video. But if you think it's not, tell me what you'd like me to include and there's a good chance I'll add it! Q4: You missed 'XX' at 'YY:ZZ'! A4: That could very well be the case! Human speech is hard to understand for computers like me, especially British sometimes! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q5: Could you turn these statistics into videos? A5: I've been playing around with the idea and I'm open to input as to what people would like to see. Let me know if you are interested in this and/or have suggestions.
@wariolandgoldpiramid
@wariolandgoldpiramid 2 жыл бұрын
good bot
@TheMaxymon
@TheMaxymon 2 жыл бұрын
Reddit bots on yt? Love it
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaxymon its a yt bot
@cypher686
@cypher686 2 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@deltaangelfire
@deltaangelfire 2 жыл бұрын
how to find the trick: look for the first "beautiful" (that's after the intro :P )
@chris_the_scientist
@chris_the_scientist 2 жыл бұрын
The initial number pattern on the grid looks like a cell or nucleus about to divide. Maybe that is why it is called binary fission. It also has some neat patterns in the solve.
@LorisLaboratory
@LorisLaboratory 2 жыл бұрын
Birthday wishes to your Dad! Great solve, thank you!
@djeidot
@djeidot 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as r7c4 is found to have 1 and 4, there's a bent quadruple in r7c4 r8c5 r3c5 and r2c5 which allows to remove the 1 in r1c4 and thus place a 1 in r3c5, making the 78 89 79 bent triple work. You can do it without resorting to Simon's technique.
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 10 күн бұрын
Wow, that was hard. Great share. Love the diagonal triple trick.
@TheLefty5o2
@TheLefty5o2 2 жыл бұрын
Started casually getting into sudoku lately and tried doing this one before watching the video and couldn't pin down even a single number after like 20mins. Started to watch the video after fumbling for so long and find out it is actual a pretty difficult puzzle. So I don't feel nearly as bad anymore lol
@RGS61
@RGS61 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the pattern of 1's, a "slot machine" reveals R7C4 as a "4", which breaks the puzzle without requiring any pencil marks .. Having said that I love the elegance of the "crank handle" and particularly enjoy that kind of elimination logic .. Well done Shye! Yet another wonderful classic!! .. More please!!
@Finsirith
@Finsirith Жыл бұрын
"Slot machine"???
@topilinkala1594
@topilinkala1594 Жыл бұрын
@@Finsirith Slot machine is kinda guessing game. Start with grid with no pencilmarks and look at the digits. If you find same digit in three boxes that don't see each other you're good to go. In this example 6 is one of such givens but 9 is not. Now mark where the digit could go in the other six boxes. If there are lots of two places you've good to go. Take one of those and imagine what happens in each case. You might find out that there is a cell where the number must be or that there is a cell where the number can't be. Either way you might get some information. If one digit don't work try another one. In this puzzle there are 1, 3, 4 and 6 all possible slot machine candidates.
@davidh.4944
@davidh.4944 2 жыл бұрын
46 minutes exactly, and I finally managed to solve one of these "spot the secret" ones on my own. I'm doubt I used the exact trick as intended, however. I spent a good while playing around with the 1789 corners, then noticed how R3C5 interacted with them and the 1s in the central chute, such that one of its three candidates could be eliminated immediately, and the other two forced 1 in R7C7. After that it was just a matter of filling out the rest of the grid.
@enoemos1566
@enoemos1566 2 жыл бұрын
fist time 10 minutes. 2:nd time A little later 6 minutes.
@mattbendzinski4945
@mattbendzinski4945 7 ай бұрын
love to watch this. I wouldn't have caught that in forever. Just amazing.....
@ronp5615
@ronp5615 26 күн бұрын
I think most people miss the corollary. That. Is. All. Happy solving!
@davidhughes7174
@davidhughes7174 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful classic sudoku, a diabolical and unsolvable puzzle for me (well done shye) but thanks to Simon for finding the path of logic.
@pwfd
@pwfd 2 жыл бұрын
Great puzzle, I did a kind of a different logic to break in though: If the 1 is on r3c3, you get a 78 pair in box 2 that forces 4 into r8c5, forcing 1 into r7c4 that will clash with the 1 in r1c4, so 1 in r3 is at c5 Don’t know if that’s considered bifurcation, but to me it seems like not a long string to follow Great solve btw, as usual
@SmartHobbies
@SmartHobbies 2 жыл бұрын
I love CTC's solving style and Shye's puzzle so much I made a video on my channel where I analyze each step of this solving video. In addition to explaining the strategies used, I add a couple of pause the video moments and some alternate solving paths, similar to how someone analyzes a chess game.
@winstonheppolette8734
@winstonheppolette8734 Ай бұрын
Coming to this puzzle recently, I found that 20 mins into the video, I had reached the same point as Simon but, rather than take his route via the 'bent triplet ', I concentrated on the cell at the intersection of col 4 and row 7. This cell contains either a 1 or a 4. If 1 is entered there, it leaves the cell at the bend of Simon's triplet with zero possibilities. Therefore, it must be a 4! Sorry to make redundant Shye's rather elegant plot.
@kevinkools856
@kevinkools856 2 жыл бұрын
lov ur vids simon💪🏽
@VeritasUnae
@VeritasUnae 2 жыл бұрын
I managed to crack the back of this one, using those same four squares and the 1,4 in r7c5. Really fun puzzle!
@joshwalsh6194
@joshwalsh6194 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the hail Mary 1 guess and quick delete @ 17:51 and then a total work around to figure out how to put it back in using the new knowledge without going straight for it absolute magician
@murphy9453
@murphy9453 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching the videos and I have learned a lot, BUT this one is way above my paygrade!
@guihermeborracha7412
@guihermeborracha7412 5 ай бұрын
It took me about an hour to solve this, getting some of the tips in the video and checking to see if I'd done right. I do not know any techniques, but I'll try to learn what I can. This was my first puzzle, I hope the first of many.
@laurabarber6697
@laurabarber6697 2 жыл бұрын
It was fun to think a long with you. Shows me that my thinking is on the right track.
@jaredmeier15
@jaredmeier15 Жыл бұрын
16:03 Simon had me laughing so hard when he said "tHeSe thReE cElls aRe A biT sUs"
@pixllo
@pixllo 2 жыл бұрын
21 minutes no bifurcation. Nice puzzle, it felt pretty straightforward to me. I don't really get the title so let's see what technique Simon will summon since my solve didn't need anything fancy (well there was a cell with only 14 as possibles in box 8 and 1 was broken, and a couple hidden pairs/triplets but that's it). Edit : after viewing the video it seems we had the same idea same conclusion different proof and different execution, same result.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
How could you prove that "1 was broken" in r7c4?
@pixllo
@pixllo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paolo_De_Leva well from memory on the same row it placed a 9 and then an 8 on column 3. The 9 made r3c7 a 7. Possibles for R3C3 were 1,7,8 so now 7 and 8 are both ruled out, only 1 left. This breaks box 2 you can't place 1 anymore. Or you could prove it like Simon did, it's more elegant but more convoluted as well Edit: also my solution was just focusing on weak cells just like Simon (which was the most logical next thing to try at that point) and noticing they interacted with each other on the specific case of 1 being placed. The remembering basically a 5-6 long sequence of digits with their placements, again nothing incredible compared to what some guys can do around here and it helps train my memory at the same time! I can never spot Y wings for the life of me but I can do that and with persistence a little bit of luck/intuition depending on the puzzle I manage to overcome my inabilty haha.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 2 жыл бұрын
@@pixllo Interesting. Thanks for explaining. Simon's convolute method was certainly smart, fascinating and elegant, but not more than yours.
@colinbrash
@colinbrash 2 жыл бұрын
19:10 I’m really excited to use the “possible bent triple that may or may not exist” tactic again soon! 😂
@incredibleturnip5875
@incredibleturnip5875 Жыл бұрын
Schrodinger's triple.
@DougCube
@DougCube 2 жыл бұрын
A more standard approach when stuck there is to see the Finned Swordfish of 1s in rows 1,4,9. The fin is r4c7 and the elimination is 1 in r6c9. Another approach is to spot the Alternating Inference Chain if you were to put a 1 in r6c9 (using r6c3, r3c3, r3c5, r7c5, r7c7, and r4c7). A third approach is the WXYZ Wing when you try to put 1 in r1c4 that would eliminate all candidates (1 and 4) from r7c4 via the 78 pair in box 2 forcing a 4 into r8c5.
@jacohop
@jacohop 5 ай бұрын
This was wonderful to watch! So unexpectedly riveting. Subbed:) Ps - what is that program you’re using? So much more effective at bookmarking possibilities than anything I’ve used. Thx!
@shawon265
@shawon265 2 жыл бұрын
That 1 really was a tough one! (pun intended) I colored one branch of the possibilites of 1 with one color (green) and the alternative branch with another color (magenta). That meant all other cells got rid of the possibility of 1 (equivalent to pencil marking all 1's)
@ThMrksman
@ThMrksman 4 ай бұрын
21:26 the utter disappointment directed at that number 3 lmao
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 2 жыл бұрын
Watching you, I feel so much more intelligent. All the things you explain, after you explained them, I understand them and think "of course" but would not be able to see them if you were not pointing at them.
@dwanechristensen6422
@dwanechristensen6422 2 жыл бұрын
...If r3c3 is not a 1, then r7c7 must be a 1... only had to go through that about 13 times before it all made sense! Wow! Great puzzle, and thank you for the patient clear explanation!
@JalebJay
@JalebJay 2 жыл бұрын
28:25 time, not sure if my pattern would be called bifurcation or not, but used simple logic putting 2 values in the same square to solve.
@vegasjosh8249
@vegasjosh8249 4 ай бұрын
I feel so much better knowing Simon got stuck at the beginning. I went straight to the page and started the puzzle before watching the video (which is what I normally do). After 8 minutes, I had all of the squares penciled with the two digit combinations, but was not able to actually fill in a single digit on any box. I consider myself to be a "Medium" level player. (Beginner, Medium, Hard, Expert, Master). Simon of course is at the Master Level, so I felt much better about myself knowing that he went to "three and four digit" pencil marks before he ever filled in his first box. If I spend another 30 minutes, I am hoping to get my first box filled in. haha
@PalSingh1
@PalSingh1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for wonderfully solving the sudoku. I have a doubt, I don't understand how did you ruled out 1 from R7C4? It will be great if you can answer, I am stuck in one of the sudoku.
@wydadiyoun
@wydadiyoun 2 жыл бұрын
probably the most genius classic sudoku I have ever seen! I regret giving up and watch the video instead!
@volkerysilvia
@volkerysilvia 2 жыл бұрын
The bent triple (commonly called XY-wing or Y-wing) wasn't needed at all for the argumentation around the 1s - the Zed-shape in combo with knowing the possible spots for 1s in the opposing corners already told us that we had a 1 at exactly one of those two inner corners (and the opposing corner box had to have the 1 in its outer corner). The Zed is basically a distorted X-wing, and the external constraints on it allow using X-wing logic to remove the 1 from the 14-cell.
@TurkishKS
@TurkishKS 3 ай бұрын
It's interesting that we saw something with some of the same cells, but saw it differently. I got roughly to the same spot you did, and also saw there was something going on with the cells in c3/c7 & r3/r7. The way I worked it out was I looked at c7r7. If it's a 9 then c3r3 is a 1, making c4r1 a 1, preventing a 1 in c4r7. If c7r7 is a 1, then it also prevents c4r7 from being a 1. Thus, c4r7 must be a 4. I did not really see the s-shape of 1s that you saw, or that double pairing in rows 4 and 7.
@RichardBlignault
@RichardBlignault 2 жыл бұрын
I have tried this puzzle about 6 times now with no success yet. Today I gave it to my wife and she solved it in less than 20 min. I watched her and she only used 3 pencil numbers twice the rest were all 2 only. I was shocked. So she did it again in about the same time. No other logic used other than her own common sense.
@caseycotreau7050
@caseycotreau7050 2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday to Simon’s dad
@kapochung9990
@kapochung9990 2 жыл бұрын
First time to solve Shye new technique sodoku. Proud of myself. 😁
@Ai_Make_Money
@Ai_Make_Money 2 жыл бұрын
from 19:20 I dont get how you summed up that you ended up playing the 4. Please explain
@_-_-Sipita-_-_
@_-_-Sipita-_-_ 2 жыл бұрын
26:45 for me. I don't really knew what the technique was but i found: 1 digit pencilmark loop elimination. 46 chains combo 78 RC pencilmark elimination 45 strange looking thingy 3 pencilmark double-effect What i do is to see what happens if i do a move that affects multiple numbers.
@jimzsblue
@jimzsblue 2 жыл бұрын
By continuing on with identifying where the 1' could go, I was able to put the 4 in r7c4: If there is a 1 in r7c7, for instance, the remaining 6 missing 1 can all be placed. If there is NOT a one in r7c7, then it is in r1c1, and again the remaining 6 missing 1s can all be placed. In either case, a one is not in r7c4. So at 15:10, the 4 goes there, and pretty quickly the correct set of 1s locations are identified.
@michaelhoffman2011
@michaelhoffman2011 2 жыл бұрын
Woo... 30 minutes for me... now to watch the video to see this secret technique. I just coloured in the 6's and realised it would fail if one group was 6... Secret technique I call "nope not that one" :P
@tuurepaananen7729
@tuurepaananen7729 2 жыл бұрын
11:27 for me, almost immidiately found the logic after realising that there are no power in the corner pencilmarks.
@TheTruth-si5zq
@TheTruth-si5zq 7 ай бұрын
No you didn’t
@gliderguld
@gliderguld Жыл бұрын
Hi Simon ... late entry, but very inspired by your explanations. I've observed, that you often push a number "one off" (one to large or to small), which leads me to suspect, that you are using an alphabetic keyboard. I think a numeric keypad and a little practice would benefit you.
@wipworkinprogress1344
@wipworkinprogress1344 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, allow me to explain... when u were looking for possibilities. Pair of 6 had possibilities in 6 boxes. Then 4 had 2 possibilities... and in combination with 6 in one of the boc. that shows if we can do guess work on 4 and 6 . We can reach towards a solution... 😊
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