your grandma should be a rally driver

Based Grandma

They do have a hard-core damage option. Whatever that means exactly. I will definitely be playing with that on. But even that mode was pretty forgiving in dirt rally 2. I hope they amped it up some in this game. We will see.

Not worth the investment for them.

@jendabekCZ maybe not. Seems like it would be easy to just turn that stuff up though. But I'm no game developer.

@@werdpc A game must be developed differently from the very beginning if you want it to be a simulation.

@jendabekCZ absolutely. I'm just speaking in terms of the damage. Like still using the same damage physics/model. Just turning up the sensitivity, So it would take less of an impact to accrue that damage. Thus making it more realistic.

Please let it be a bug lord.

After playing some RBR, it's now painful for me to see people rallying in this game. All this snap-oversteers (especially, on loss surfaces) just look wrong, especially if driver didn't pressed brake pedal at all. It seems like cars have very little inertion from side view.

Sounds to me like EA slapped you on the wrist for telling the truth lol the game looks good but its not your fault if it doesnt feel good.

@@mgrib3594 Then go back to the "realistic" RBR that is perfect due to your professional opinion about how a rally car should feel and rally in those horrific graphics... meanwhile we'll have fun in a fantastic 2023 game with licensed WRC cars and a great career mode to win the WRC championship... ok hipster??? Leave us in our pain... we fucking love it!!!!

@@Trench_Rock I can say whatever I want tbf. There's a human at EA, they're not just some mindless mega corporation drones 🤣 If they believe the physics are simulation, so much that they themselves would write it in the marketing materials, I'm gonna take that seriously 🤷‍♂

Aim inbetween. Modern WRC gravel grip, or 2000's with the active diffs might be a lot in comparison to default RBR sliding on ice. However, judging by IRL footage, these cars can grip laterally pretty well, BUT ground irl gives in, hence the wall of the tire does more work. Gravel in RBR feels pretty same-y, except the shape and contour of the road itself, but that is another matter. Both games have similar issues, but devs decided to approach it from different angles. Not until a game calculates physics on the fly at least like LFS or more appropriately - BeamNG (rip CPU), and the road surface is meticulously handmade with potholes of different materials, softness, weather effects etc. to mimic real roads, will we get something like a realistic rally simulation. In the end it depends on what you want from the game. I would buy WRC for the F2 cars, but since I don't like the way physics work, I am completely content with a 24 year old Rally Championship 2000. Same cars, long tracks and the physics are also whack. But the atmosphere is there, even more intimate and focused compared to WRC which has everything but in bite size shunks, spread out thin.

Make sure if they are sponsered or not. This guy is not sponsered. It's honesty

He literally explained why it was worse than dirt rally 2.0 in the first two minutes. So ig is absolutely not dirt rally 3.0 with wrc cars. It's more like an easier more accessible dirt rally. So a dirt rally 0.5 with wrc cars would be more accurate.

​@@socks2441it looks like all they've done over DR2 is make the suspension more compliant (read actually doing something) and boost the graphics a smidge and add the latest WRC cars. It still seems to have the terrible steering from DR2, the infuriating yawing cars when you turn in and the one size fits all grip that seems to only change with speed and not terrain let alone within a stage.

@@socks2441 it's probably closer to the main DiRT games than Rally

This is worse than Dirt Rally 2.0 in pretty much everyway, it's like you didn't even watched the video.

Ahh yes, straight line 150 km/h yaw, because we loved it in CMR1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc., we will love it today. Suspension being softer does jack shit when the tires have their own dimension of physics. Jesus fk. @@PPC4

Funny how the original DiRT series before DiRT Rally had a much more detailed damage models even the glass can't be shattered into pieces in DR1

I have lost actual wheels in the original dirt rally

He meant older DiRT games in general. The series is about 20 years old, predating even Richard Burns Rally. DiRT was actually Colin McCrae's Dirt originally (I think, idk if McCrae was added later, it's literally been 20 years), though they changed the name a while after he died (iirc, it wasn't immediate).

Sim racer discovers game marketed as sim*

@@TheCaffeinatedDriveother sim racer discovers marketing is a glass house of lies and has an existential crises .

yeah we dont want games... there are plenty of them, the option was always there, just wanted to make a sim

no it's boring. when you play a rally game you expect rally physics. also they advertised it as a simulation

if its too easy it wont be engaging enough to sim players. I enjoy the challenge that is the main reason I play rally sims. The higher the skill ceiling the more progress you feel as you get better. This looks like dirt 2.0. It looks good but i would prob play all the tracks a couple times then get bored of the way the driving feels.

When they market it as a simulation... It's going to grab the attention of sim players. When it doesn't live up to those standards, people get pissed and disappointed.

@@krohnberg That isnt anyones fault other than the game devs if they market a game as a sim and dont deliver on it. If they want to make a game for people to play with a controller then fine, but if they are marketing a game that is meant to use a steering wheel and pedals then why half-ass the physics? I want the car to feel like a car because that is the entire "experience" the game has to offer.

Its a sim just not a full blown one like you guys always expect from a big dev 😂 theyre trying to sell games not please you 😆

Might as well use a playstation 2 controller for this lmao Whats the point of using the wheel when u get no ffb for slips ect

@@Trench_Rock Ι have watched many reviews including Jardier and Jimmy Broadbent.. The game definitely has proper feedback, at least as good as DR2. What he said about FFB is BS.

@@m4dalex478 There's proper force feedback, just not great feedback for suspension or tyres. Everything else is spot on and very immersive, as I said later on in the video.

@@Trench_Rock You sound like someone who cant afford a wheel and pedals. If you have an option to race a car with a controller or a wheel is pretty much a no brainer

@@m4dalex478 I find Jimmy to be pretty reliable. He seldom sugar coats things.

He is talking BS. I do not understand why he chose to "trash" this game like that. The FFB, the tarmac and the damage model are going to be better than DR2. If that is not a sim in his eyes then he is the most biased reviewer I have watched so far. Get lost in RBR for another decade I guess.

This is a preview that with the steering wheel is a bug For example

​@@m4dalex478Lol did it hurt your feelings? Just look at the replays and compare RBR to any Codemaster game. It's pretty obvious RBR is far more realistic and has proper weight/inertia and movement unlike the Codemaster games. That doesn't mean their games can't be fun, but RBR is still the best and most advanced rally sim.

@@Skumtomten1 I also consider RBR to offer the best simulation, that was not my point. Trashing this title on purpose for 2 minutes, is biased and dishonest. This is the only review that has done so and I do not believe it was an honest review, so I called it out. Everyone is saying that this is better than DR, yet here we are watching a video comparing physics and FFB to Forza Horizon...

maybe, just maybe he's being honest and the mass "influencers" are just going through the motions of bigging it up? RallyTechnical has been the most blatant so far with his comments when asked if its more a sim or arcade/simcade: @RALLYTechnical "Sim! RBR modded ain't got nothing on EA Sports WRC. It's way better than DR2.0. Light years ahead of KT's WRC games. It's the game we have all been waiting for."@@m4dalex478 make of that what you will, i certainly dont buy it until i try it. however, i think it will still be fun but honesty is hard to come by today

I like when commenters that have never played the game make massive, baseless assumptions

If it looks wrong, it is wrong. That's how physics works.

@@TSRB you never played dirt rally 1 or 2, and if you did you have a verry narrow understanding of the physics or how to drive the cars ingame

You don’t need to ya muppet

"next one"....i would expect this to be milked for at least 5 years

They won't, it's an ea, they will milk this one the same as fifa

I would agree if we were still getting a seperate dirt rally 3 along with a generic easy wrc game for the masses. But we are not. So if this game doesn't at least match dr2 in physics, then it's a damn tragedy with no future for semi realistic rally games.

Right that's what people don't get, it needs to feel real within the constraints of what your playing on. Full realism while missing the necessary sensory inputs is just punishing. The g-force, the movement, etc. There's a joke in Hollywood that applies here, Someone once asked a director why they were painting horses to look like cows? The answer was, simple, cows don't look like cows on screen.

@@socks2441 theres gonna be new dirt rallies whether ppl like it or not in long. DR2 did too well to not be attempted again.

dirt rally was replaced with the wrc games now that they have the license. there is not much reason for them to try and make the same game twice, one with the license and one without. .@@afdelta0120

@@afdelta0120 Dirt Rally's existence was because Codemasters never had the official WRC licence. Now that they have it I very much doubt they'll go away from it.

This is that game, just with stutters and worse graphics xD

It has been cancelled by EA for this game sadly

​@@ussassuand worse physics

Enought with this arcade bullshit

Do you mean power steering? That won't straighten the wheels, just make it easier to spin the wheel

the visuals dont come close to DR2 sadly praying the next one can be like DR2

please don't make any assumptions when you don't know what games I've played

​@@TSRB Well if you played the games, as you insinuate. you would have formed a different opinion. going on your words alone tells me you either have not thought this through properly or you have not played the games at all.

@@portableportal You said you need to keep the revs high, I said I do that by staying on the throttle a lot. I'm sorry I drive the car differently to you.

@@TSRB well your answer proves my point, you have no clue what you are doing or talking about.

It looks more like wrc to me. It has way too much grip to be taken seriously as a successor to dirt rally

Removed Automatic car reset when you fall down a cliff and preventing all the damage would be a first start. That was bs in DR

I think the biggest issue is thinking that wasting that extra time and putting more dev cost to making sure it’s a hardcore simulation with proper damage and physics is justified when there are only a subset of people that even cared for them, vs the most people that don’t even care how the window glass break or how the grip is too much. Doesn’t make sense to cater to then niche and putting more dev time and cost when most people don’t even care about that.

I hear you, but I think it could be feasible to add a hardcore mode. Not a physics overhaul, but rather more like cranking a damage slider all the way to the max, and disabling car resets, and of course any driving aids. I may end up getting this anyways. It does look like great fun, and the stages look amazing.

@@ZX3000GT1 People don't even care... yet there's a 20 year old game fans love so much they mod it themselves and it's superior to this 'new' game?

@@bigglyguy8429 Fans doesn't mean most people lol. Sales revenue of RBR was much lower than much less realistic but much more popular rally games like Colin McRae or PS2 WRC games. Hell, I'm sure Sega Rally Revo sells more than RBR and that's literally a pure arcade rally game. I think you missed my point - it's not about how is it still having a following decades after release. It's about revenue, popularity, sales figures - basically what for profit companies care for. It's great to dream, but the reality is most publishers would never put money into a game that will only attract a subset of players. That's why we're seeing this and not Dirt Rally 3.0 or something like that.

.......This game has stage degradation.......which means the roads get worse as the event goes on. So if your car 90 out of 150 then youll be racing on a rutted course, if your car 1 then youll be racing on a fresh course! Do some research!

​@@BamaMike7187it's only phisical like in dirt rally 2.0 not visual and still far from truth of actual depth of tracks in gravel

Try richard burns rally and you will know how awesome of a rally sim it is

@@codeonion I have trivd it. Rally Sim Fans versjon ofc :)

RBR has become a religion. Believe it or not, modern rally cars are designed to be responsive. Anything that feels "different" is deemed to be "wrong". Btw, even "full on sims" like iRacing and Asseto Corsa gamify many of the physics. Games will never be pure simulators.

@@waltlock8805 True sometimes I feel like we are the problem constantly chasing realism. I used to have a blast in CMR 2.0 on PS1 with a gamepad and it was amazing :D I've tried to ignore RBR until today when I installed it and immediately felt like this is right it should feel like this. I watch a lot of real rally god bless the hungarians who fill the stages with amazingly built Ladas. I used to drift my swaped E30 and learned to drive in a trabant and later got a lada when I was like 11 I drove only on dirt roads my whole childhood. I'm saving up for another car but it's so expensive to do rally even on amateur level for my own pleasure. So I've assembled a cheapo sim rig till I get into a proper car but this sim racing is so amazing it taught me a lot about car handling. I'm looking for a piece of land to buy to make something like a stage if I won't be able to build a car with homologation parts and race. I wrote to kunos if they could finally beat this 20yo RBR and set a new standard for rally sim after they released AC2 this could be a nice challenge for them.

well said. why would i pay 300bucks plus for a sim set up just to drive an arcade game... i dont get this, "you dont really want a sim" ... YES! ! DO!

He's the first one being honest, but basically all the others implied the same things if you listen carefully to their word choice.

Yip If this had decent physics, that is true. But ig clearly doesn't work in this game. From watching videos ig appears the damn things on rails

Right. Dude was just slamming the throttle into a turn. No movement.

enjoy it for what it is... arcade? well since i dont enjoy arcade how am i supposed to enjoy it for what it is? especially since its the sequel of dirt rally 2, it advertises itself as a simulation. so i am not supposed to be bothered by that? this was going to be dirt rally 3, now it is an ea sports arcade game for the masses.

@wotever99ninynine It's all "arcade". !!!! I racing, Assetto Corsa, whatever, it's all arcade. Just your interpretation of what feels fun to you.

it cannot all be equally arcade. i get your point that its open to interpretation.. but no, the more realistic it is, the more it veers on the side of simulation, the less realistic the more it veers on the side of arcade. these terms already exist and have a definition, you cannot redefine them.if you wanted to argue that they are all just 'games' i can see your point. they are irrefutably all just games. but games are not all arcade.@@markrigg6623

It is trash

It’s a rally game. Wrc. Not wrx. Wouldn’t mind it tho, been having some fun with it on dr2

@@nollienick1121 Yeah, WRX is in a soggy state right now, but Rallycross has been a little side mode sense Dirt 1 and Rallisport. I'd love to see how it would work in a game like this.

and us RBR modded fans still get to play RBR modded and EA WRC :)

It's a very bad thing for dirt rally or rbr fans. A good thing for casual wrc players

@@socks2441 lmao in what world is that a bad thing ? It's not like those games suddenly disappear as soon as this one releases.

he is right actually. if you didnt know dirt rally 3 was cancelled and renamed ea sports wrc after codemasters obtained the wrc license and ea obtained codemasters. there likely wont be another dirt rally game at least until their license contract expires. if ever. you are correct that rbr will still exist though of course.@@W4ZEL

@@wotever99ninynine It's just a name ... This is literally what Dirt Rally 3 would have been, except it has official WRC cars and stages. Is that such a bad thing ?

They're not going to let you kill people in a rally game...

​@waltlock8805 what are you talking about dude

Already a respectable number for such niche hobby, but I agree this was the best WRC preview so far.