The Norton Commando Arrives

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Freddie Dobbs

Freddie Dobbs

26 күн бұрын

The Norton Commando arrives!
I take collection of this British made, 961cc and 77hp bike, and have a first ride and walk around.
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Пікірлер: 816
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 23 күн бұрын
You showed the Norton in its natural environment. Round the block for a coffee and a pose.
@superleggenda
@superleggenda 21 күн бұрын
What do you expect from a bike that costs 17k and only has 77HP?
@theislerider9513
@theislerider9513 21 күн бұрын
​ 78..brought me from Germany.. trough Canada and USA and back in 1988..with a cb 750 HONDA..!!
@jeffmullinix7916
@jeffmullinix7916 19 күн бұрын
No not Coffee but a danty cup of tea with your pinky sticking out in the wind as your riding the bike .
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 13 күн бұрын
@@jeffmullinix7916 You aren't British are you?
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 8 күн бұрын
It’s not only a motorcycle. It’s a piece of history. The aluminum parts that are becoming tainted or signed with corrosion can be protected, better, they must get some protection, silicone spray or something like that. The problem is that in general people don’t want an old bike. People want a retro style bike but with all the modern features inside, so, this is a product only for the collectors or for the big spenders that want to show off this specialty. Looking forward to your in deep review of the bike. Thanks 👌🏻
@clydedettor7080
@clydedettor7080 21 күн бұрын
There is a 1973, 750 Commando sitting in my Dads garage. He rode it at least once a week until about a month before he passed at the age of 92. My brother-in-law rides it now and smirks when he sends me pictures. He's 71.
@Hipporider
@Hipporider 21 күн бұрын
That's so great to hear your dad rode his bike to that age. Inspiring indeed 🇦🇺
@kaisersoze5236
@kaisersoze5236 19 күн бұрын
amazing 🤟
@G58
@G58 19 күн бұрын
You’re in a waiting game bro.
@Barrrt
@Barrrt 10 күн бұрын
Dude, the way you talk is just a pleasure on its own, regardless of the content. (But we all know the way you talk is _because_ of the content)
@kajnatok
@kajnatok 23 күн бұрын
Everyone forgets about the Triumph Thruxton, another great modern classic bike
@jamesschneider3828
@jamesschneider3828 23 күн бұрын
And they quit making them because there is no reasonable market for an uncomfortable bike.
@andrewhayes4246
@andrewhayes4246 23 күн бұрын
@@jamesschneider3828 yes, the main market for retro cafe racers is people who now struggle to ride them for more than a few miles.👍
@Irfan87
@Irfan87 23 күн бұрын
@@jamesschneider3828 I just checked Triumph's website. They still sell em?
@Sinshiro917
@Sinshiro917 23 күн бұрын
The Thruxton really isn't that uncomfortable with it's raised clip-ons. In my opinion it's more a rider issue than a bike issue, as you do need some level of fitness and willingness to adapt the proper riding style for any sports bike. If you're a healthy individual with no conditions or injuries, there is no reason you couldn't live comfortably with a sports bike/cafe racer as your daily machine.
@RorySeanWainer
@RorySeanWainer 23 күн бұрын
@@andrewhayes4246 Many people say that but I have no problem riding the Thruxton R for several hours at a time ... guess I must be one of the lucky 5'9" 64-year-olds it was designed for :)
@artistonamotorbike
@artistonamotorbike 23 күн бұрын
Its not even got an led headlight but my goodness its utterly beautiful.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 23 күн бұрын
I can't bring myself to buy anything that hasn't got led lighting now car or bike. Headlights that are not led in 2024 is ridiculous. Besides most cars now you can't even get to change the Headlight bulbs without removing the entire front bumper
@hgm8337
@hgm8337 23 күн бұрын
@@chrishart8548 This is the one area I wouldn't criticise Norton for. LED headlights are damn dangerous as they frequently blind oncoming traffic, especially older drivers, I have an H4 yellow bulb in my RnineT.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 23 күн бұрын
@@hgm8337 I do agree with the yellow it helps stand out now 99% of cars have DRL's now
@robertknight6383
@robertknight6383 21 күн бұрын
I love that they didn’t go LED! I think the old yellow ones have a charming look.
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 13 күн бұрын
@@chrishart8548 I don't think it has cup holders either, count me out
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine 23 күн бұрын
I'm sorry: that thing is simply gorgeous. Gorgeous looking. Gorgeous sounding. Screw the flashers. Glorious.
@wetpaint46
@wetpaint46 12 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing…so beautiful 😮
@charlesedenfield8947
@charlesedenfield8947 19 күн бұрын
I was blessed to own and enjoy 5 Nortons. An ES2 single made in 1955, an Atlas model from 1965, 3 Commandos -1970, ‘73 and a very short term stent with a ‘75 electric start. Overall, a wonderful experience that cemented my loyalty and fondness for this iconic marque. Memories are hinted on each ride on my substantially modified Royal Enfield Interceptor.
@heleti0000
@heleti0000 23 күн бұрын
Another great video. One comment - (I grew up in London during the 50’s and 60’s and started riding bikes long before I was legally allowed to 🤫) - I never met anyone during that time who rode a Norton because of the comfort factor. They “suffered” riding a Norton because it was a Norton. 😁🇦🇺👍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 23 күн бұрын
Very interesting! So the new Commando’s stayed true to form from a comfort point
@miketownsend927
@miketownsend927 22 күн бұрын
The roads were smoother in those days and the Norton Featherbed bikes were as comfortable as any others despite the short roadholders damping.
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 22 күн бұрын
My 74 Commando 850 was as comfortable as most other bikes of the time.
@packhams4
@packhams4 20 күн бұрын
@@splodge5714 Bikes of the 70s up till the early 80s were made to be comfortable touring bikes.
@savingclassicmotorcycles
@savingclassicmotorcycles 13 күн бұрын
Hi Freddie interesting video, always enjoy watching your videos, 97 years on my 1927 Norton 16h flat tanker is still here still being ridden I rode her through last winter an same for my 1967 Norton 650SS (one of the finest British twins ever made as Phil Reed said in the 1964 brochure handling from the featherbed frame as good as a Manx! when he won production races on the 650ss) I'm also restoring a ww2 Norton 16h and a 1968 Commando. I daily rode for 4 years n 4 winters the Norton 650SS through thunderstorms an winter's which outlasted alot of modern bikes, an provided total reliability until a nerve injury stopped me kickstarting for a while (none bike related). Just sticking a few videos up filmed on that over the past 7 years or so. I'm actually restoring one of the first 70 Norton Commando's at the moment from 1968 an it has to be said they are so so so smooth to ride when the Iso's are set right an that was with mine having an engine fault when I bought it due to a mistake by the previous owner. The original concept of the Norton Commando was to make it super smooth via the revolutionary Isolastic system, it actually won Motorcycle of the year for 5 years on the run by Motorcycle News in the 60s and 70s. A design that Harley went on to riff off with the Electra Glides, a former Norton employee was inoled with that. The First Norton Commando was actually made by Norton as Norton Villiers LTD an the later by Norton Villiers Triumph. Then they had amazing success with the F1 Rotaries later on which is often forgotten about. For something marketed at 17k it's a shame they are still fitting such low end bits like the indicators an still making the mistake with the infils, an seat it's a shame that they still are not thinking about those of us that use bikes regularly, the seat on the 650ss and Commando are all day comfortable something that's missing from alot of bikes, I think that's something that's really missing from the current Norton range proper all day comfort an bikes for being ridden year round not just looked at. I nearly bought a 961 in the SG era one of the sport models an luckily I didn't alot of people were absolutely exploited both on bikes that never turned up or bikes that were stripped for parts one of my friends only ended up with his frame back, and the pensions (which you got a details wrong on) an were then left high an dry by TVS one of the largest companies in the world to produce motorcycles. A company of there size although there was no obligation to could have been sorted out for me these things shouldn't be brushed under the carpet as I know who were truly left with no help. Luckily theres a great independent specialist in the 961's by Stu Motorvated who got left with no support. Leaves a bitter taste in alot of peoples mouths and would stop me from buying one as it stands. I do hope they make a go of it, One worry recently was a V4SS that was a current build bike delivered 23/24 that went at a well known auction house for 22k an hadn't been ridden. For me it's hard to move away from the original Commando's absolutely epic sound from a 360 degree engine and so so easy to work on with great parts availability. I really really hope as someone you cut in half would say Norton that they don't forget the ethos from Pa Norton, to paraphrase, from one of the 1920s brochures although we have the high performance ohv models these will remain a low production bike, The Norton although for the expert always had a bike like the Big4 in the range Pa Norton's favourite for the everyday rider as Norton termed it in the period, which people would use to take the family out on the weekend or go to work on. For me the core of the Norton Brand was a 360 degree twin an a good long stroke sporting single. I hope they don't forget that or the newer younger riders alot of my friends are riding Royal Enfields. I think it's important to capture the riders earlier on.
@narayangauda1533
@narayangauda1533 11 күн бұрын
I can't belive this is a KZfaq comment. You sir, are certainly passionate about motorcycles.
@savingclassicmotorcycles
@savingclassicmotorcycles 10 күн бұрын
@@narayangauda1533 thank you Narayan :) hope you are having a good weekend.
@OFallons
@OFallons 4 күн бұрын
The foot pegs are the same as the Beautiful Red Commando 850 I rode back in the day, 1969.
@paulyflyer8154
@paulyflyer8154 23 күн бұрын
To me it looks like a home made parts bin special. My friend called it a "crashed satellite" 😂
@gazzertrn
@gazzertrn 23 күн бұрын
Supposed to be harsh on longer journeys . Too many flaws for that price .
@kevinmurtagh3434
@kevinmurtagh3434 23 күн бұрын
Homemade, never
@bfarm44
@bfarm44 23 күн бұрын
Now that’s accurate
@NoToBigBro
@NoToBigBro 23 күн бұрын
It's British made! What does that really mean? When workers are done assembling it, there are parts leftover. 😁
@paulyflyer8154
@paulyflyer8154 22 күн бұрын
@NoToBigBro What I mean is, it looks like someone's made it out of parts from 5 written-off bikes. Gold forks, carbon mudguard, 1990's suzuki lights etc. The tank is a work of art though and it sounds amazing. Norton aren't the only manufacturer who's fallen into this trap though. Bmw and Triumph spring to mind straight away. They get so close very often and then make a schoolboy error with one detail like the wrong display or forks, and instantly lose 40% of people who may have otherwise pulled the trigger. My Triumph Speedmaster is a good example. Lovely bike to ride and look at but instead of using the same gorgeous clocks as the Bonneville, they go and put a cheap black plastic speedo on which looks like something from a 1990's 125. It's a first world problem I know but it's like they hit the post with the last kick of the match. I just wish they'd employ designers and engineers who had at least some knowledge and affection for the heritage of bikes.
@TheBikerFormerlyKnownAs
@TheBikerFormerlyKnownAs 23 күн бұрын
I knew you would be grinning ear to ear with this one, Freddie. The exhaust note is superb. Real character.
@sallhame
@sallhame 18 күн бұрын
But does it sound better that the original Commando with peashooters? I've got a MKIII 850 Roadster, and it looks and sounds like nothing else. And rides pretty well too, if I may add. I hope this new Norton will be a success. And, I wish I had those brakes, and those Öhlin parts on my old bike, that would have been something... 😊
@norriemasson4080
@norriemasson4080 21 күн бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think it’s a stunning looking bike
@DISTINGUISHED.GENTLEMAN.
@DISTINGUISHED.GENTLEMAN. 17 күн бұрын
There is no beauty without flaws
@LesterSuarezGonzalez-dz9ns
@LesterSuarezGonzalez-dz9ns Күн бұрын
Truly love The Amazing Norton❤, so it's a real Master Piece on wheels 🥇!!!, No doubt one of my favorite Motorcycles ❤️!!!, Great video, Thanks for sharing 👊👍✌️!!!
@countycricklewood
@countycricklewood 4 күн бұрын
Beautiful!
@bankruptpensioner
@bankruptpensioner 23 күн бұрын
Very special bike, you are very lucky to get your hands on such a machine. Well done ❤
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 23 күн бұрын
I feel extremely lucky, thank you😀🙌🏻
@PhilRounds
@PhilRounds 23 күн бұрын
That is quite likely the best sounding bike engine i've ever heard. The pegs are rearset because it's a cafe' racer. That also explains the seating position. It's a retro performance bike, that's all it's 'sposed to do. This one isn't for 2 up riding, or touring. It's for riding to work on nice days and going for a ride to the cafe' on warm, sunny Sunday mornings.
@knottytoob
@knottytoob 21 күн бұрын
Thank you TVS for steadying the reins, but letting the ride be and the rider exalt.
@TheArchmage100
@TheArchmage100 18 күн бұрын
Indeed.
@brucewalker5890
@brucewalker5890 18 күн бұрын
Looks beautiful. British made - excellent. Nortons ruled in the 20s and 30s. A lot of fuss was made of the Commando in the 70s ans 80s. Triumphs ruled in the 50s and 60s. Lot of money for a name.
@vincesacca5025
@vincesacca5025 23 күн бұрын
That is what I like about you, Freddie. You tell it like it is... Cool looking bike.
@os6219
@os6219 23 күн бұрын
I grew up in a small village in a small western european country. At the far end of this village, on the edge of everything, almost in the fields, was a little bike shop. The small and most simple showroom was full of beautiful bikes. I cannot count how many times we stopped in front of the showroom or the open repair shop to spend time there with the other boys. At age 8, I fell in love with Norton. The most beautiful mechanic constructions there are. The shop still exists today and has not changed a bit for the last 40 years. It is not in England. I cannot afford one of this old beauties. Maybe I should try and get one of those?
@RobWhittlestone
@RobWhittlestone 20 күн бұрын
Sounds like you're describing Fritz Egli's place in Bettwiil, Canton Aargau, Switzerland! His place is still full of desirable bikes and he has a museum that's worth a visit. All the best, Rob in Switzerland
@os6219
@os6219 20 күн бұрын
@@RobWhittlestone​​⁠Good country, wrong village. Isn’t Fritz’s place in the heart of the village? Other guess? 😉
@johnalleman1134
@johnalleman1134 23 күн бұрын
Are they quirks - or are they faults? They are faults. I’ve always wanted to like the “new” Nortons, but I can’t help thinking the company is taking the “P” out of us! A great example Freddie…. Yes - they look like Ali Express indicators. £3 a pair! The bike definitely has flashes of beauty but….. we are constantly being reminded of the history of a completely different company that has long gone. I want to like it, but sadly I just can’t.
@eddiegallagher1572
@eddiegallagher1572 22 күн бұрын
I agree. You might as well put handlebars on the Mona Lisa. Looks great but unrideable
@verlinswarey507
@verlinswarey507 17 күн бұрын
Sad but true!
@CharlesStettler-kp4ot
@CharlesStettler-kp4ot 7 күн бұрын
c'est trop tard....les gars qui en revaient en 1970 sont morts ou ne peuvent plus rouler.....😂😂
@luckyluc03
@luckyluc03 23 күн бұрын
I'd take a Triumph Thruxton over this. But, that Norton is gorgeous!
@ballaservices9275
@ballaservices9275 22 күн бұрын
I rode pillion on a Norton 650 (not sure what the model name was now), back in the 1970's. At that stage I'd only ever ridden 250's so it was a extraordinarily exhilarating. I was determined to get one when I passed my test, but I stopped riding altogether for quite a while afterwards. Thenj decided to go back to biking in the '90's and Norton was no more. But I've always been very happy with Trumpy's.
@mrbxv
@mrbxv 22 күн бұрын
This bike looks and sounds so good.
@stevenjonestriumpht1207
@stevenjonestriumpht1207 23 күн бұрын
I borrowed one from Krazy Horse BSE last year. Best looking Retro and the sound of. So uncomfortable though. Loved every second riding it.
@TheJWC56RSA
@TheJWC56RSA 23 күн бұрын
Reading between the lines: A 17000 B/pound bike made from all the remaining bits and pieces that are left over from "other" bikes, that should be halve the price made in a country that is as far from British as you can get with a seat made of stone, has 1$ indicators, home made light fittings, a tank sculptured for a very short legged person and about zero turning circle with an engine that sounds like it needs an overall. Great Bike!! Remember to take your phone with when you go on that trip... and make sure the tow truck's number is stored... And when you get back... just buy a Triumph - also not made in Britten!
@jd6549
@jd6549 19 күн бұрын
Its a nice bike, I too found that tank shape strange and not too comfortable. You should try an original Commando, I think you would be pleasantly surprised. I bought one 42 years ago and still ride it regularly. I used to commute to work on it as did another colleague of mine and somebody a friend was talking to didn't believe they could be used as commuter bikes as he believed they were too unreliable. Mine now has a 100,000 miles on it😂
@JB-up4pm
@JB-up4pm 3 күн бұрын
Awesome bike. Great perspective.
@MentatOfDune
@MentatOfDune 23 күн бұрын
Would be great to see a Norton history deep-dive like your BSA one
@SheepDogNumber6
@SheepDogNumber6 22 күн бұрын
Norton styling is so amazing.
@hughmac7423
@hughmac7423 18 күн бұрын
Oh there are quirks with my 2022 HD Pan Am and a lot of character since I fitted the V&H muffler. I've had it for just over 1 year and I love it. I ride practically everyday. I do wish Norton would sell the Commando in Australia again.
@andyaptc2907
@andyaptc2907 23 күн бұрын
The leg on tank fit is no small issue regarding your comfort; only! my shorter leg would fit this beauty no problem!
@stevehunt7044
@stevehunt7044 20 күн бұрын
There's even an orchestra that plays as you go along, so you can't hear what it sounds like!
@medler2110
@medler2110 23 күн бұрын
I sort of get garage special build vibes from that, looks beautiful, sounds great, not quite finished, but when you're riding it none of that matters.
@TheOutdoorFun
@TheOutdoorFun 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. What gorgeous bike. Amazing craftsmanship. Bravo ❤
@josephdonzanti7966
@josephdonzanti7966 4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@billellis6538
@billellis6538 23 күн бұрын
For a warm bike it seemed remarkably reluctant to start immediately. Given you can smell fuel I would suggest it is not set up very well. A tune would probably be of immense benefit.
@kevindown1592
@kevindown1592 21 күн бұрын
My brother owns a fully restored Norton Commander. He is also rebuilding another one into a cafe racer. The bike is still amazing to ride.
@sallhame
@sallhame 18 күн бұрын
Commander or Commando?
@kevindown1592
@kevindown1592 18 күн бұрын
@@sallhame Sorry for not being specific enough. The bike is a Red 850 Commando. He has another one partially restored to a cafe racer. Has all the part but hasn’t finished the work. Last time I counted he had part of 19 motorcycles in his garage.
@sallhame
@sallhame 6 күн бұрын
@@kevindown1592 You know, there is also a Norton Commander, that's why I asked. But nothing beats a Commando :-)
@kevindown1592
@kevindown1592 6 күн бұрын
@@sallhame Yes, I was using my faulty memory in my first post. I looked at a picture I took of the bike and discovered my error. I had a Kawasaki Mach III during the Norton’s heyday. They were always wanting me to race.
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 23 күн бұрын
I remember my Uncle Brian had a die cast model of the original on his mantle piece back in the early 80's. I loved the model, this reissue hits the spot. Beautiful.
@andeanrider6355
@andeanrider6355 23 күн бұрын
A proper bike. I would have one. Thanks Freddie.
@freedomfighter8614
@freedomfighter8614 23 күн бұрын
I'd like to Norton and Triumph get together and make a modern Triton.
@Ian-bq7gp
@Ian-bq7gp 11 күн бұрын
The crankshaft, QC has been sorted out since TVS bought Norton. Well done to the owner of TVS, a rare breed of person who has been so honourable and good in bringing in help for those ripped off by that villain Stuart Garner. Now I believe its the best commando ever made with TVS improving the quality and reliability of parts, machining and better value than any bike made even at 17K quid. Ohlins forks, brembos and the superb fit, finish doesnt come cheap but its a great bike to ride, proper, real old school bike and a beautiful parallel twin just as the 1950s BSA twins.
@baricho4771
@baricho4771 23 күн бұрын
Love your delivery Freddie, and your enthusiasm for quality bikes.. this is a fantastic video and for sure Norton are back and will make a huge impression
@tejasborse2643
@tejasborse2643 23 күн бұрын
Norton is now owned by TVS which is an Indian two wheeler brand who manufactures fuel efficient bikes , mopeds , auto rickshaws ,also they make some performance bikes like TVS RTR 310 . TVS motors have collaboration with BMW also and now they have Norton as one of the feather in the Hat
@ceeyum
@ceeyum 23 күн бұрын
TVS took over Norton back in 2020, but it doesn't seem like they're in any hurry to get Norton bikes made or sold here in India. If the Norton buy-out is anything like when they collab'ed up with BMW, then they began that partnership in 2012-13, it took them ages to finally get the Apache RR 310 which is exactly the BMW GS 310 out in 2023. And TVS further made cool tweaks to the Apache RR 310 engine, turning it into the Apache RTR 310 with slightly better engine performance and a cheaper price tag; and despite that, it's still not flying off the shelves like they hoped. So, don't expect an Indian version of TVS Norton before 2030. And let's be real, by then, India might have moved on from gas-guzzlers to fully electric anyway. TVS's investment in Norton is possibly their worst ever decision; but I am willing to be proven wrong in time.
@Amory98
@Amory98 22 күн бұрын
Ah look a tvs salesman. 😂 bhai take it easy you're looking cringe here. BMW is a partnership, and BMW DESIGNED that 310 engine that tvs is using in their "performance" bikes like the rr310 and now the rtr 310 (both of those bikes I can smoke on my gen 1 Duke 390 though, very easily 😂). So stop with your natinalisatic vomit here and just enjoy bikes man.
@paulstokes393
@paulstokes393 23 күн бұрын
Cheers Freddie. Thanks for helping me decide......I'm definately sticking with my '02 Guzzi California 😂
@larrywade9041
@larrywade9041 23 күн бұрын
I'm right there with you pal. I feel the same about my 2 Guzzi's. Cheers!!
@joshuabahirvani2488
@joshuabahirvani2488 21 күн бұрын
Freddie checking the fume aroma like a master chef
@Bob-xc2us
@Bob-xc2us 23 күн бұрын
That's a beautiful bike but it is a far cry from my 1968 750 Commando fast back. The 820th production Commando ever made. She's still in bits in the garage but it will come back to running condition and sit proudly beside my 2022 Kawasaki W800. Cheers form Canada.
@apacherider7110
@apacherider7110 23 күн бұрын
The bike isn't type approved like all vehicles for CE [UKCA] approval but individually approved, I think its called, hence why its loud and you smell fumes from the exhaust
@zedd165
@zedd165 23 күн бұрын
Beautiful
@TTrider2024
@TTrider2024 23 күн бұрын
I grew up riding bikes in the 60’s , we did not buy Norton Commandos (maybe the 650 SS), we bought Triumph T120 Bonneville, BSA Gold Star, BSA Rocket Gold Star .
@husqami
@husqami 20 күн бұрын
Looks great - like a love child between a thruxton and nine T. And this is its competing market, which presents an opportunity with the thruxton discontinued and the nine T losing its DNA and becoming cheaper. Also, you are sitting on the bike wrong. Once you slide your butt back and assume a sports bike position, the knees will likely fit. You don’t ride this like a cruiser.
@fabienponchard2220
@fabienponchard2220 22 күн бұрын
the sound is just stunning
@aarshjeet
@aarshjeet 23 күн бұрын
Beautiful bike!! I've been binge watching your videos, truly a fan of your style and content.Great work!! Pure Class💯💯
@05gt99
@05gt99 23 күн бұрын
I saw one at the Norton stand at London Excel show and thought it looked stunning .
@peterjones2845
@peterjones2845 23 күн бұрын
The key looks like my motorhome water tank lock.
@simonlangmead7
@simonlangmead7 22 күн бұрын
In Canada it’s 3 times more expensive then a current Triumph Bonnie 900. The Triumph will likely be far more reliable despite him emphasizing it being made in England. Wasn’t that the reason past British bikes left countess riders on the side of the road. Triumph unlike Norton, has learned its lesson and isn’t living in the past with a one trick pony bike. They have a nice lineup of classic bikes, but also make modern looking and high functional abilities to appeal to other riders. Oh, and Triumph has realistic price tags as well, and Japanese levels of reliability. Hinckley Triumph waited over 10 years to bring back the Bonnie bike, because they wanted to show they can build sophisticated 3 and 4 cylinder bikes with Japanese reliability and functionality. It would have been a disaster if the Bonnie came back first even with great reliability, because people would have said, just the same old same old. They’re stuck in the past, will they ever learn anything. Are you listening Norton?
@atish4523
@atish4523 16 күн бұрын
I think Norton has or are still working on v2/v4 engines?
@dontuno
@dontuno 19 күн бұрын
It's been almost to the day 50 years since I last rode a bike daily, but that looks stunning, and I almost feel I should go out and buy one! One of my pals had the 750 and chopped it in for the 850 and both those (as I recall) were stunners with performance to match. I love your passion for bikes and it's great to see we can still produce something of real merit.
@michaelkruck-weimuller31
@michaelkruck-weimuller31 23 күн бұрын
Quote: “it accentuates the pain of the seat” Freddie makes it sound as if it was the best one could hope for.
@Phaedra808
@Phaedra808 19 күн бұрын
Nice bike, but the original Commando came out in 67 . As you probably know they suffered terribly with reliability issues. And when the CB 750 arrived it was game over.
@dennismccarthy7032
@dennismccarthy7032 23 күн бұрын
Cracking review Freddie! Norton is back and tugging at the heartstrings ❤
@howardmann5634
@howardmann5634 23 күн бұрын
That is perfection I could look at that all day hope it rides as good as it looks
@alantrott871
@alantrott871 23 күн бұрын
A couple of people in these comments have said it’s a café racer - but this is not correct. This particular bike Freddie is testing/reviewing is a ‘961 SP’ ie a Sport, as can be seen in the video on the side covers. The cafe racer variant with the lower handlebars is marked ‘961 CR’ on the side covers. I had long admired Nortons since the 1970s and thought I might buy a 961 SP at some point to upgrade from my (excellent) 2020 Triumph T100. I have seen a few 961s at the Ace Cafe in recent years and overall like them a lot. However I sat on a brand new SP at the Excel (London) motorcycle show in early 2023 and immediately noticed how it was not as comfortable as my T100. I had somehow thought it would be better at nearly double the price. So, I agree with others who say you just have to accept it for what it is if you want to ride a 961 (and I have not totally given up getting one but do not think it would be as suitable as a Triumph Bonneville if you live, and mostly ride, in a big city like London). Definitely more noticeable and impressive looking and sounding than a Bonny but big bucks to buy one. And they don’t even have a fuel gauge
@davehawes8177
@davehawes8177 19 күн бұрын
Now that old son, would put a horn on a jellyfish!!!! 😊
@colinhailey830
@colinhailey830 23 күн бұрын
Sorry, quality hand made should not have quirks. We were taught to make it right or don't make it. Even screw head slots had to align. A lock that is not centred is not a quirk it is bad workmanship. To be honest I find the bike less than impressive and certainly not up to the original's standard. A good way to start and argument would be to ask which bike ruled the road in the fifties and sixties, it wasn't the Norton Commando.
@joedimaggio3146
@joedimaggio3146 21 күн бұрын
What was it then?
@colinhailey830
@colinhailey830 21 күн бұрын
@@joedimaggio3146 Whatever bike I was riding at the time.🙂
@colinhailey830
@colinhailey830 18 күн бұрын
@@Brink109 It is a joke, Everyone in the 50s and 60s considered their own machine the best. I was no exception to that. My Goldie was tops.
@fidelio9301
@fidelio9301 16 күн бұрын
Hand made things are imperfect. That’s the point. Perfection is an illusion.
@vichy7661
@vichy7661 12 күн бұрын
Honda Cub outsold every bike ever made, started in the 50's.
@Ian-bq7gp
@Ian-bq7gp 11 күн бұрын
Kawasaki w800 and W650, yamaha XS650 and royal enfield mk2A interceptor are great bikes. Norton commando and BSA A10 650 pre unit are wonderful machines. Even the single carb BSA A65 is a great bike and rolling chassis. Only the timing side bush was a weakness but with todays superb oil tech theyre far more reliable crankshafts.
@mikepopelka2349
@mikepopelka2349 23 күн бұрын
Beautiful bike and wonderful sound, much as I hate to admit it, it does outdo both my Thruxton and my T120!
@mikes_channel
@mikes_channel 21 күн бұрын
Absolutely filmmaking art. What I love about your videos Freddie is that you never fail to capture the ethos of the bike itself! Lovely.
@patrickallen5781
@patrickallen5781 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous!
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 23 күн бұрын
What a marvelous bike!!!
@seanheadley7090
@seanheadley7090 23 күн бұрын
Loved it that much, bought one, one of a few bikes i have owned that makes you feel ur riding something special.
@UKPete
@UKPete 23 күн бұрын
Nice looking bike, its good that you point out the flaws!. hopefully Norton will take on what you have pointed out, cheap indicators, the ignition key barrel alignment and and the fuel tank and seat.
@neilurquhart8622
@neilurquhart8622 23 күн бұрын
This post certainly generated a lot of comments….Marmite bike obviously! Personally I liked the overall looks….apart from the indicators, reservoirs, gold forks, alum alloy beginning to corrode (easy to resolve with decent anodising). A bit of history: I had two Nortons in the 60’s, a 350cc Navigator (lot of noise but not much go!). I changed it in ‘63 for a 650ss (£343!), loved that bike (fast, comfortable & stunning looker). They won several 24 hour races beating Bonnevilles. I was never able to fix oil leaks though! Also had to return it to the factory (Bracebridge Street Birmingham) as the tappets went out of adjustment constantly; the complete cylinder head was replaced. STILL LOVED IT THOUGH). Freddie…..would be great to see you do a review on a 650ss!
@rogerparis
@rogerparis 20 күн бұрын
Great review!!
@motomitch
@motomitch 20 күн бұрын
Kinda wild they pride themselves on using only premium parts and a 17k pound bike, but the indicators AND the key ignition. Seeing that key thing every time I'd look down would infuriate me.
@Ayresy_83
@Ayresy_83 22 күн бұрын
It looks how a motorcycle should look, great video Freddie 👌🏻
@verlinswarey507
@verlinswarey507 17 күн бұрын
Very cool shot of you starting the bike,circling around and riding out of the garage. Good editing!
@JamesReilly-en4di
@JamesReilly-en4di 23 күн бұрын
Perfect for costuming, forward controls and ape hangers, cool bike freddie😮
@jannerfox9292
@jannerfox9292 23 күн бұрын
Lovely bike but comfort is so important, enjoy the bike.
@fozinwozz9738
@fozinwozz9738 23 күн бұрын
Love it I will have one one day to go with my Enfield & BSA the good thing is the cheap indicators etc can be swapped out and customised which also I enjoy to do👍
@ruso9660
@ruso9660 23 күн бұрын
Morning Freddie! Beautiful tank and crank case, and sounds great. But the forks and rear fork gas cylinders... should be silver or black imho.
@rickd955
@rickd955 15 күн бұрын
Greetings from Germany Freddie, stumbled upon this video and utterly loved your Britishness (new word) way of presenting this great looking bike 😃
@andrewmcconnochie8155
@andrewmcconnochie8155 22 күн бұрын
Love the tool roll on the front.
@cpkay33
@cpkay33 22 күн бұрын
wow what an amazing bike. gorgeous.
@Labgorilla
@Labgorilla 20 күн бұрын
British made horsepower. It is a stunning bike. Looks perfect for you. You need a different helmet though. The seating position will hurt. The price is too high. Just needs a British Indian flag perhaps on the plastic indicators or on the off centre key slot.
@louisgara8754
@louisgara8754 23 күн бұрын
Norton Commando - now you’re talking, Freddie. I’ll be very interested in your videos on this bike. Unfortunately, they’re not available in the USA.
@user-cx8ek4qk8x
@user-cx8ek4qk8x 23 күн бұрын
Then what am I watching?
@plattenschielerlp7796
@plattenschielerlp7796 23 күн бұрын
Ohh boy, its that sunday again. My bike is waiting for me but first I need to watch this video for a real good start into this day.
@thetrainingcoop
@thetrainingcoop 6 күн бұрын
Gorgeous. Norton may however have built a bike with worse steering lock than my Ducati S2R1000 :) Still digging it tho.
@lfoggy3061
@lfoggy3061 23 күн бұрын
I toured the factory, test rode a bike and purchased a Cafe Racer. Its brilliant. After careful running in, it runs really well, better than the test bikes i tried. Vibrations are not that big a deal and are part of the charm. Braking and handling are modern, and the 80 odd horsepower is enough to get around quite briskly. With bar end mirrors, the Cafe Racer looks really cool. I rarely go out for a ride without someone commenting on it. Off to IoM TT on it in a few weeks.
@songkok7hitam
@songkok7hitam 21 күн бұрын
Thats one beautiful bike.
@Ninj1959
@Ninj1959 21 күн бұрын
If you agree that this bike adheres to the Norton tradition, all the bits will fade and discolour, rust and eventually either fall off or rust away to dust. For me, when I rode the same model as you test here, the pegs are so far back after a while, with the vibration and acute leg angle, it became properly uncomfortable!!
@peterfong1556
@peterfong1556 21 күн бұрын
I had a 1972 commando,at the time love of my life . We went coast to coast living in North Carolina
@open_water2411
@open_water2411 23 күн бұрын
Stunner.
@rodgersmith3215
@rodgersmith3215 23 күн бұрын
Sounds and looks super 👌 Another fab video 👍 thank you 😊 🙏
@hurcansayar1392
@hurcansayar1392 23 күн бұрын
Very lovely jacket and feeling a little jealous.
@officialwildcardadventures
@officialwildcardadventures 22 күн бұрын
Snorton Norton. I've loved these since I was three years old. Sounds soooooo good.
@christophertyacke6019
@christophertyacke6019 23 күн бұрын
This is a form over function bike. 30 mins of riding, tops.
@mum-0217
@mum-0217 23 күн бұрын
What an elegant looking bike. The detail on the tank and around that lower engine cover is second to none! When I was a kid, I used to long to own one of these and I am sure I had one that looks quite similar. Only issue was that it was matchbox size. 😂👍
@CraigJohnBoylan
@CraigJohnBoylan 20 күн бұрын
I would fit some Motogadget Blaze Ice indicators and also paint that carbon mudguard black and gold to match the bodywork. Then it would be perfect!
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