Jesus said catholics will all go to hell (if you care aobout the "Jesus opinion". 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone who supported it will get eternal damnation. That means every single catholic. It's that simple.

What? Obviously there is a variety of beliefs, but generally protestants don't believe that sinning means they were never saved.

@@ChristopherNeedham-sx5ut But isn't this point you make the very problem in protestantism? Depending on your particular community, the answer to this question will be different. Where is the assurance? There isn't any real assurance. unless you subject yourself to fideism. How many alter-calls/ meetings with different pastors does it take until you drive yourself nuts with this issue?

Catholics have to deal with the possibility they'll go to hell forever because they masturbated, or used birth control because they already have too many kids. And you have no idea if your act met the requirement to be "mortal" so you have to race back and forth between confession just to be sure. I see it all the time on catholic discussion boards and in person. If you are not scrupulous as catholic, you're not taking the formulaic route to salvation as presented by the catholic church seriously enough.

Who told you that? Have you read 1 Jn 2:1-6? It addresses this entire issue about being sure of your salvation because of your works versus being/not being saved period. Protestants that feel the way you describe do not know about grace - that was me once. I saw grace as an excuse for sin and worried that every bad action or thought threw me out out salvation.

From what peril is salvation offered?

John 6 disagrees with that description

@@cosstefan7682 How does John 6 show that justification & spiritual regeneration are not a free gift?

@@soulosxpiotov7280 John 6 refute the idea that one can "refuse" this gift. John 6:36-37, 6:43-45. " **ALL** that the Fathe gives Me *WILL* come to Me." Emphasis on all, and not some.

@@cosstefan7682 "John 6 refute the idea that one can "refuse" this gift. John 6:36-37, 6:43-45. " *ALL* that the Fathe gives Me WILL come to Me." Emphasis on all, and not some." Wait, so John does NOT show that justification & spiritual regeneration are NOT free gifts? Well, I believe that. Now, concerning "all," are you saying "all" as in the whole world, all human beings who ever lived, or, "all that the Father GIVES ME ....WILL come to Me" - that is, those whom the Father had elected and predestined before the foundation of the world, and These - these will not refuse the gift? Which one is your understanding?

John, I'd love to connect you with some folks that can answer any questions about Catholicism that you may have. Check out the folks over at crossthetiber.org if you're interested. - Kyle

Look into Orthodoxy. It's catholicism minus the pagan influences of early Rome.

Today is a good day 🥰🥰🥰

@@belindamorris8340have you told Mike winger what you told Trent, when Mike bashes catholics? I'm a protestant, but so many of protestant doctrines are not biblical and I won't sit there and allow false doctrine just because someone is a protestant.

​​@@belindamorris8340 Belinda pointing out error and wrong doesn't equal hate if you are bothered and feel attacked that is something you can look into about yourself.

Catholic adage: "Catholics think God is a creepy dirtbag who loves pedophiles more than children". 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone who supported it will get eternal damnation. That means every single catholic. Thank God.

it continually confuses me how orthodoxy evades the conversation. It's everything good about catholicism, minus the pagan influences of early Rome. Catholics actually believe the Pope has the power to make statements of equal validity as Christ himself...

@@deerlow1851 No we don't. I'm sure you can find some text somewhere defending papal authority and pull it out of context to argue Catholics put the pope above Christ, but that's decidedly not what Catholicism teaches or believes. The pope's authority is one of interpretation and application, not creation, of Christian teachings. He cannot contradict Scripture, and if he does or tries to, the Church will come back to the Truth. I mean, we have of course had terrible popes in the past, but as Christ promised the gates of Hell will not overcome the Church. And they haven't, even if the enemy has scored some major victories at different times over the past 2000 years (the Schism, the Reformation, the sex abuse). Think of his authority like the US Supreme Court's authority alongside the Constitution. Interpretation and application, yes, but changing the Constitution or blatantly contradicting the Constitution, absolutely not.

@@deerlow1851 You’re correct! You’re truly confused! And not only confused, but also ignorant and clueless. You’ve been infected by anti-Catholic lies and falsehoods you’ve been indoctrinated with. What you know about the Catholic faith is made up of caricatures and misrepresentations out of narrow minded antagonism. If you are truly sincere to get out of the darkness of your confusion and ignorance learn from Trent Horn. Watch his various videos in this channel. Search for any topic you’re confused about and you’ll be pleasantly surprised to be lead into the light of the truth of the Catholic faith and I assure you the Holy Spirit will bring you back (depending on your openness and generosity) to the original, true, and full Christian church founded by Jesus himself, the Catholic Church.

​@@joshj3787Well put 👍

Because she's true, clear and simple!!!

So you apostatized.

​​​@@belindamorris8340 You just made an assertion. Why does any one feel the need to defend themselves to someone insulting them? If you want to understand try being less combative. 😊

​@@belindamorris8340 lashing out is definitely and using appeals to emotion is not a way to prove your argument. Present some logical claims if you are correct.

I reject the second premise. Just bc one is not baptized it doesn’t follow one is disobeying Christ. Think of arid regions where there is no water for miles, etc. The conclusion then doesn’t follow. Trent’s arguments are so exegetically flimsily: Faith alone in Christ alone acquits sinners of eternal condemnation and not without water baptism. (If P, then Q) The thief on the cross was granted paradise apart from water baptism. (Not Q) Therefore, one can be saved apart from water baptism. (Not P) If water baptism is identical to the gospel, then one must be water baptized to get saved. (If P, then Q) Christ send Paul not to baptize but to preach the gospel (1 Cor 1:17; Not Q) Therefore, baptism is not the gospel. (Not P)

@@belindamorris8340 You outright dismiss OP’s discernment as ridiculous and based on nothing, but you get upset by something as simple as “Don’t get triggered” and even see that as unkind and lacking of empathy. Btw, look at the post just below yours. That’s a typical hateful Protestant view of Catholics, that we’re apostates. But I’m sure you’ll just overlook that.

I commented this earlier, but isn't it strange that they believe that all sins are automatically forgiven and you go to Heaven, so long as you believe in Jesus, EXCEPT for the apparent sins that Catholics commit? By their very logic, even if we were committing idolatry and such, our belief in Jesus should automatically atone for it (unless their one of those who think that if people still sin at all, they aren't really saved, which I imagine causes sooo much scrupulosity). So do we have to truly believe that we are saved just by believing in Jesus, in order to be saved by just believing in Jesus..? That's just absurd.

That's false as a wood coin. Christ says pretty clear in John 14 verses 15,21,23-24: “If you love me, you will KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. [...] He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me; and he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” [...] Jesus answered him, “If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE ME DOES NOT KEEP MY WORDS; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me." So Christ requires a lot more than believe in Him. He demands to keep his commandments. Your protestant friend is awfully wrong because he's falsifying and cheaping Christ's gospel

@@OrthoLou : Yes, I agree. You nailed it. I never thought of it the way you stated it.

Wonderfully said, yes we have to walk in His ways:♥️

I'm a Protestant and agree that line of reasoning makes no sense.

So you have no faith in God's saving grace. What you have is experience of physical acts such as confession and mass.

What I tried to convey is that the Sacraments led me to greater faith, going beyond their merely physical aspects. The Sacramental signs (like Eucharist and Confession) are not merely physical but are connected to a greater spiritual reality. This understanding gave me confidence in the heart of Jesus- I didn’t find solace in the merely physical aspects, but in the greater reality they are linked to, which is Jesus’ saving love.

@@belindamorris8340 None teach that, it was just my personal reaction to the Protestant teaching of salvation due to an insecurity that rose from the lack of internal consistency on the topic. There are many areas where I was left to my own judgement of sin (a judgement I knew to be imperfect). I have been Catholic for 19 years now and grow deeper in understanding each day. I don’t find Catholicism to be nonsense by any means, and I have many reasons for not being high church Anglican, Lutheran, etc. I appreciate the sentiment, regardless.

@@belindamorris8340 I don’t judge Protestantism based on an experience. I have made my determination in favor of Catholicism on primarily logical grounds, which in turn has led me to a deeper sacramental and Supra logical (beyond human reason/logic but not contrary to it) understanding. I have also been exposed to many different Protestant / Evangelical / Anabaptist denominations and services and cultures and have plenty of varying experiences with them. There are indications in your comments that you are likely missing some context and/or misunderstanding key elements of Catholicism (e.g. sacramental worldview or difference between official doctrine and dissenting individuals/parishes) that may make it more difficult for us to have this conversation on KZfaq. Wish you the best and have a nice day!

@@geordiewishart1683 no what it is, is following Christ’s covenants and what he called a life following in the steps of Christ which he demonstrated and spoke of. You may say you believe in Christ … but if you don’t even show a fraction of the love Christ did to others, if you commit sins and never reconcile with those you hurt or even with God … how can you even claim that you believe in him if all you have to show for it is saying “I believe” while hurting others and saying you pray to God and follow his teachings when you ignore his church and completely ignore everything Jesus said in his sermon on the mount as though everything he said is a waste of words because you only have to say you believe yet have almost all of your actions show you are not following Christ

Sorry you had such a bad experience with Protestants. The reality is that the Reformers sought to return to the faith of those Church Fathers. Read, for instance, the 95 theses to see why they were opposed to the Catholic church, and then look to see if the Catholics have fixed any of those issues. (The answer is no. Rome is bound by their claims of perfection and so cannot reform even obviously false claims. This is why for example Catholic apologists are still required to defend indulgences.)

You mention the devotion and sincerity of protestants, I've felt the same. I'm not a believer yet but coming from atheism through to agnosticism and then visiting different churches and speaking to people of different denominations, I found the fervor and dedication of the pentecostals really impressive, but their theology was weak/underdeveloped and I had to move along

@@Leraje241 This was a real problem to me until I discovered that the deepest and most effective devotion is in the heart. Once the heart is correctly disposed towards God, He comes in to fellowship with you. No experience surpasses it. However, it is not attained by seeking an experience. Do your part - regular and disciplined - and in time you will realise He is there - just like the Emmaus men only recognised his presence during the meal. I still visit Pentecostal churches because I enjoy the enthusiasm and zeal but I find it difficult to focus because of the loud sounds and distractions. I love them but also feel sorry for them because their spiritual growth is usually arrested. Because their services are emotionally charged they usually come away satisfied and so imagine the have it all. They often can only sustain their enthusiasm by recreating the atmosphere that gives them 'the lift'. Howerver, the danger is 'How do you sustain it when persecution comes and you may no longer worship in that manner?' In the Catholic faith it doesn't matter what happens, because what you experience does not require an external stimulus. Thats my view.

@@CK-ub7jf Yea I realized pretty quick that 'picking' a church based on the experience was not gonna be sustainable or lead to the full truth. Long story short I'm pretty sure its either Catholic Church or nothing; I've been ramping up Catholic 'practice' for a few months now in an attempt to take up the offer in Matthew 7:7-8. Tbh its kinda hard and exhausting doing it all without actually 'believing'; I get we're meant to give 'everything' and the promise of Christianity is worth more than anything anyone could give, but... practically speaking its like there's no end in sight. It would seem that if I knowingly reject the sacraments and don't enter full communion with the Church, I'm damned - but I also can't recite the creed without lying (I insert 'wish to' before 'believe' when doing the Rosary personally, and stay quiet communally) or receive sacraments as an unbeliever. I was baptized as a baby by my atheist parents to please my grandparents so at least I have that going for me. I go to mass most days of the week, go to an evening Rosary session almost every night, learning prayers, reading books (Bible and Catechism via podcast too), tithe, etc... technically I could do more and more and more still of all these things, but its like the last piece is the grace of faith and not anything I have control over, which maybe will come when I feel like giving up but decide not to... just stuck in circles. Just ranting now so I'll stop there, but if you had a specific conversion moment or key thing you did I'd be grateful to hear.

@@Leraje241 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! Romans 10:13-15 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. Mark 9:23,24 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. John 6:37 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:16,17 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:8-10 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; Colossians 1:9-11 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke 23:39-43

Amen!! 🙏

HA. Jesus said catholics will all go to hell (if you care aobout the "Jesus opinion". 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone who supported it will get eternal damnation. That means every single catholic. It's that simple.

Well said sister! Welcome home, I am a new Catholoc myself (about 3 years now) but I come from a back ground of wokism and atheism, so the Catholic Church when she found me was like finding ice cold water after wondering in a desert my whole life. I sometimes wonder which is harder to break away from: wokism or protestantism 🤔

@@jd3jefferson556 that’s beautiful. Jesus is the Living Water and we will never go thirsty again with Him.

​@@bernardevillaw3410 Jesus said no such thing. Your comment is disgusting. Abuse is disgusting as well - and it happens everywhere and in every time. No one is cheering on abusive people. Take your anti Catholic comments elsewhere.

Awesome!!! Congratulations and welcome home. Stay true to the faith ✝️🇻🇦

@@oliveri9407 Thank you! Prayers are welcome!

Abraham *DENMOSTRATED* his Faith, when he's willing to offer his son Isaac to God.

Terrifying? Jesus - “Narrow is the gate and hard is the way that leads to eternal life and few find it.” Jesus - “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself, pick up his cross, and follow me.” Jesus - “And on that day they will come to me and say ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we cast out demons in your name? Didn’t we do mighty works in your name? And I will say to them I never knew you be gone workers of iniquity.” Jesus talks a lot more about hell than heaven! What’s missing in most religions including Catholicism is a profound fear (awe and reverence) for God. If you you find all this terrifying maybe that’s a good thing, I’m guessing that’s why Jesus warns us about it.

Beautiful! What an amazing story!

The saints with heroic virtues and holiness are witnesses to the truth of Catholicism.

Actually the death of the martyrs only proves the point that they truly believe in Jesus Christ. “To live is Christ and to die is gain” so it wasn’t in vain. They could not and would not in their good conscience renounce Christ even if it means death.

Purgatory isn’t found in the Bible once.

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs This was a very catholic response lol. Christians in the Bible had the Torah. The whole Tanak.

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs Why are you against the word of God? I’ve literally had a catholic say “we don’t read the Bible because we are dumb and will misinterpret it, that’s why priests do the reading for us.” I’m a former Catholic. It’s nice to leave the brainwashing and read the Bible in the Hebrew and Greek with my own eyes.

@@PredestinedNewCreationlmao you don’t speak Hebrew or Greek.

​@@PredestinedNewCreationi dont trust you lol.. HAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 WE ALL KNOW PROTESTANTS ARENT WORTHY OF TRUST. i. Still feel protestanty. I feel condemned and i honestly havent liived my liife with. Chhrist. I searched and watched too much. Fear mongering "christian" protestant KZfaq video content and ive believed much. Too naively. To my Dismay and disappointment. Protestants are all wrong on everything they hold strongly wrongly.. being. A protestant is likr atheism makes you complacent and protestantism has more rage angry God formationn of attitude. Catholicism and Orthodoxy christianity are better because they provide purgatory wether you like it or not hell and heaven exists correct? God does.pay attention to us when we think that as he converts us with his knowledge and mysterious influences but He does not necessarily feel offended when we humans. Dont believe in heaven or hell . You havent searched the Bible completely for purgatory. Thats obviously true. So is purgatory existence. It the place in spiritual realm doesnt give a penny what you think of it not existing or existing. It simply is and does exist and thats all matters or dont matters since you cant touch. Id desire heaven which is ideal. But if i comitted mortal sin such fornicating or pedophile or homosexuality or adultery literally any sin that i can think of any sin but only one out of many i wouldnt choose neither right now because i hate them all but if i do fall in one i hope purgatory exists and christ saves my burning soul away from. Hell and shows me mercy not allowing my soul to escape purgatory but enter purgatory to cleanse my soul of my stupid human sinns. Amen God is mercy Catholicism shows that wether you arrive there purely intellectually or emotionally.

I keep trying to drop a heart on this comment, but you keep editing it haha! -Kyle

I believe this touches on the heart of the issue. Is it not the mostly-held Protestant view that you cannot lose your salvation? The only way to explain someone walking away from the Faith would be to say that he/she never had true faith in the first place.

I'd definitely agree with this formulation as a Protestant. I think most Catholic and Protestant theologians would agree with it as well, and it seems consistent with magisterial Protestant confessions. Afaik, what separates traditional Protestant and Catholic understanding is whether works done under faith merit grace. Both positions understand that mere intellectual assent devoid of any good works is insufficient (as St. James writes in his letter), they just use different terminology to express it.

@@daliborbenes5025 I was baptized into a Lutheran church. So, I was raised as a protestant and spent my youth in pentecostal- and lutheran circles. Then I hit the wall that led me into atheism-phase because of theological- and biblical issues. Eventually I researched what kind of answers catholics had to those. That changed everything for me. I'll be confirmed as catholic in couple of weeks! Trent, Catholic Answers, and my local priest have been an enormous source for the knowledge that led me to this point. Beyond grateful and excited!

@@TheCounselofTrent Trent is one of the reasons why I'm now in a state where I'll be confirmed as *catholic* in couple of weeks! At the Day of Pentecost. Thank you!

Did God ever punish the chosen Hebrews and Jews? What are the 12 commandments? Obey and do all that God commands us to DO, COMMANDS not something else

When Dad tells you something, I recommend you obey. Or I wish you luck

@@joseperez8862 thanks for the inane warning.

@stevendouglas3781it is not a warning, it's a fact. Honor your Father and your Mother.

Love God with all your heart and all your strength and thy neighbor. What is the number one commandment? God is Love, He disciplines his sons and daughters to adhere, teaching us how to Love one another

It’s so bad 😂

It's not just the plunge. The fact that venial sins sink you down a little bit while mortal sins sink you down a lot implies that a lot of venial sins could add up to one mortal sin (which is not what Catholics believe), but also has the person climbing back up out of unrighteousness through sacraments and works, which isn't an accurate representation of Catholic teaching either. A single reconciliation puts you all the way back up as justified, and none of your other works are meritorious to make it up there on your own.

I love the animation. The little guy walking along is pretty cute.

"And so to just “Trust” is itself a work!" Faith is a work, but is a work of God (John 6:29). It was produced by Christ, who is the Author and Finisher. True believers exercise faith, but they didn't produce the saving faith to get justified and regenerated.

@@soulosxpiotov7280 If you say Faith is a work of God then I don’t have any free will and then I don’t need a savior.

@@PatrickSteil You have the free will to sin, you don't have the free will to trust in Christ, since God grants repentance and produces saving faith. If you don't come to faith in Christ, however, you're still culpable, you're still guilty, you're not innocent, you'd still go to the Lake of Fire if you die in an unsaved state. You do need a Savior.

@@soulosxpiotov7280 This makes no logical or Biblical sense. No where does the Bible teach this. This is Calvinism- a heretical doctrine of a man that has led many to denounce Christianity completely. Here’s why. If you say that God causes us to Trust Him - against our will- then he is automatically NOT a loving God. Love is acting toward the good of another - for the sake of the other and without and selfish desire. This is why we are called to love our enemies as a “test” of our love. Why would we need to do this if he is the one that forces our enemies to trust him or not? Do you believe we should pray to our God for an increase in love/trust? Should we evangelize? Should we hold Church services? Should we have Bible studies? Should we call people to repentance? To be consistent - if our Trust is a “work of God” and then we don’t need to do any of those things, correct??? What if the first century Disciples acted this way and never went out baptizing, teaching, planting churches, ordaining Bishops and Priests? Would you even know if Christianity today?

Yes I just want to add that I, too, would love to see that response video

@@macroglossumstellatarum3068 I watched their discussion, I’m not sure how worth a response it is. I was, frankly, disappointed in Stuckey. She interrupted frequently, threw out red herrings and distractions that were not relevant to the topic like indulgences, and, even worse, baldly mischaracterized Catholic teachings! She said that indulgences were “paying your way into Heaven”, which is ugly and ridiculously false. But the cardinal sin of hers was that SHE picked the topic (papal infallibility) but then admitted she didn’t really know BASIC THINGS about it, like when and how often it had been invoked in Church history, what the mechanisms for its employment are, etc. She came off needlessly argumentative and uninformed about the topic which, again, she herself picked. It was not a great look. Farmer seemed nice, and overall was enormously patient.

​@@nathangraham2189 she has said false things about the Church before and has been corrected hundreds of times if she reads any comments on videos. I will no longer give her views or ad money bc of how she lies about the Catholic belief/theology.

I don't know if Allie is prepared to debate Trent 😂

@@macroglossumstellatarum3068 he already did

Can you expand the anglican view.

How does your "denomination" (you are anglo-catholic right?) regard salvation? Do you have any specific videos about it, or are you aware of an article/video properly articulating your position?

Jesus said catholics will all go to hell. 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone who supported it will get eternal damnation. That means every single catholic. It's that simple.

@@sotem3608I think, though barelyprotestant can definitely correct me if I’m wrong here, that Anglo-Catholics and liturgical Anglicans generally have much the same view as Catholics and Orthodox here. That salvation is a life-long walk with Christ, the goal of which is to cooperate with God’s grace given to us to grow in sanctity and love, and is a walk which we can turn away from and destroy that grace within us if we chose to do so. Is this overall correct? And as a former Baptist I’ll agree here: I was MUCH more anxious about my salvation as a Baptist than as a Catholic. I know very intimately what it’s like to have sinned and then felt like “Uh oh, I must not have MEANT it or felt it or said it the right way before and so I’m maybe not saved. I’d better pray the “sinner’s prayer” again to be sure!” Pax Christi.

@@nathangraham2189 thanks for sharing! :D I always had the same anxiousness back when I was non-denominational. I had the precise questions, have I been saved? I sin, so what is the threshold? Was I never saved in the first place? Kept coming back at times. Though in honesty, the "anxiousness" still plays a role, just in different things now. A good reminder, to not be distracted by the storm (fear/anxiousness), but to keep my eyes on Jesus! I always get reminded of the part where Peter actually walks on water towards Jesus, but the moment he gets distracted and looks at the storm he becomes scared and starts to sink. God bless!

Facts. - Kyle

In what way is it circular reasoning?

@@soulosxpiotov7280I’m every way. The claim is that if you are saved then you won’t sin, and if you DO sin then you were never really saved. That’s circular reasoning.

@@phylocybe_ Who said that? There is a difference between sinning and confessing and getting back up, and continually sinning with no change of lifestyle to begin with. These are not the same. This isn't circular, this is biblical, read 1st John for yourself, I didn't write it, the Holy Spirit wrote it through John. And besides, when do you know when you HAVEN'T committed a mortal sin? For just lusting after someone is equal to committing the actual act of sexual immorality.

Then come home!

​@@OrthoLou salvation isn't the only issue a protestant can disagree with the Church on

I’ve seen some that say He was talking about Catholics and other “false” gospels.

@@landrypierce9942 I considered that, as well. Geez...

@@getrit3007 What is the standard by which you can judge that?

@@getrit3007 I forgot about that context. Thanks for that. It seems to refute some of the tenets of Protestantism though.

@@getrit3007 Believing in God without doing his will is not enough. Most Protestants don’t agree with that.

Seems like a lot more than just faith. [CU]Believing In Christ [C]John 3:16 [C]For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten so . So that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. [C]Acts 16:31 [C]And they said believe in the lord Jesus and your whole household will be saved. [CU]Repentance [C]Acts 2:38 [C]Repent and he baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of The Holy Spirit. [C]2 Peter 3:9 [C]The lord does not delay his promise as some regard delay. But he is patient with you. Not wishing that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance. [CU]Baptism [C]John 3:5 [C]Jesus answered. Amen, amen I say to you. No one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of Water and the spirit. [C]1 Peter 3:21 [C]This prefigured baptism which saves you now. It is not a removal of dirt from the body, but an appeal to God for a clear conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. [CU]Work Of The Spirit [C]2 Corinthians 3:6 [C]who has indeed qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of letter but of spirit;(D) for the letter brings death, but the Spirit gives life. [CU]Declaring With Our Mouths [C]Luke 12:8 [C] I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others the Son of Man will acknowledge before the angels of God. [C]Romans 10:9 [C] for, if you confess[e] with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved [CU]Truth Knowledge [C]1 Timothy 2:4 [C] who wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth. [C]Hebrews 10:26 [C] If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins. [CU]Maintaining The Faith [C]Colossians 1:22-23 [C] he has now reconciled in his fleshly body through his death, to present you holy, without blemish, and irreproachable before him. provided that you persevere in the faith, firmly grounded, stable, and not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, am a minister. [C]Matthew 24:13 [C]But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved [CU]Continuing To Do Sanctifying Good Works [C]Romans 2:6 [C] who will repay everyone according to his works: [C]John 5:28-29 [C] Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice(S) 29 and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation. [C]James 2:24 [C] See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. [CU]Grace [C]Ephesians 2:8 [C] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God; [C]Acts 15:11 [C] On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus,(G) in the same way as they [CU]Christs Blood [C]Romans 5:9 [C] How much more then, since we are now justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath. [C]Hebrews 9:22 [C] According to the law almost everything is purified by blood,(P) and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. [CU]His Righteousness [C]Romans 5:17 [C] For if, by the transgression of one person, death came to reign through that one, how much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of justification come to reign in life through the one person Jesus Christ. [C]2 Peter 1:1 [C] Symeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of equal value to ours through the righteousness of our God and savior Jesus Christ: [CU] His Cross [C]Ephesians 2:16 [C] and might reconcile both with God, in one body, through the cross, putting that enmity to death by it. [CU]The Eucharist [C]John 6: 30-40 [C]35 [a]Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.(A) 36 But I told you that although you have seen [me], you do not believe.(B) 37 Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, 38 because I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the one who sent me.(C) 39 And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it [on] the last day.(D) 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day.”(E) Our 4:09 view of salvation is more of a process. We aren’t truly saved until judgement. It’s why St Paul talks about running the race and working out our salvation with fear and trembling. So if a Protestant asks say you are saved, being saved, and hopefully will stay saved.

​@@lukebrown5395 Thank you brother! ❤❤❤ May God bless you and protect you.

You don't even listen to Jesus. Jesus said catholics will all go to hell (if you care aobout the "Jesus opinion"). 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was UNFORGIVABLE (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone who supported it will get eternal damnation. That means every single catholic. It's that simple.

@@_ready__ Since you do not believe the verses Luke Brown cited you should redact them from your Bible.

​@@_ready__ He did rightly divide the word, though. How do you say he is mixing up law and grace, Israel and the Church? He quoted entirely from the New Testament, not from the Law at all. These words are for the Church, not just for Israel.

Yep. His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

@@HarrisonTheGrey ....don't think that's what she was getting at. Being a Protestant is much easier because they believe they are automatically going to Heaven. I think that's rather dangerous.

It’s funny how many Protestants say, “atheists are atheists because they don’t want to give up their sin”. When I wonder how many of them remain Protestant because there’s mortal sins they regularly commit but don’t think loses them their salvation, and which they wouldn’t dare want to tell a priest about.

​@@OrthoLou The correct protestant view I would say isn't automatic. Jesus death and resurrection wasn't "automatic". It was very costly in a sober minded protestant's view. The acceptance of the one true Christ in one's life causes a real spiritual transformation of that person. That's how we see the epistles laying it out.

What do you mean? Majority of Christians are catholic, and majority of "everyone" do not declare themselves as Christians at all, so please clarify.

😂😂😂are both the same??

Thank you for watching! -Vanessa

It's not noticeable by statistics yet....for every 6 that leave the church, 1 joins 💀

Actually, the thief on the cross did **MORE** than just believe/have faith - HE did several good works **BEFORE** Jesus promised him to be in paradise: - for example: 1. he **rebuked** his peer, the other thief on the cross ('have you no fear of God'). 2. he **confessed** out loud his guilt ( 'We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve.' ). 3. he **proclaimed** out loud Jesus's innocence ('But this man has done nothing wrong') . 4. he **asked** (uttered with his mouth) for Jesus to remember him ('Jesus, remember me ..').. 5. he **acknowledged** publicly Jesus Kingdom ('..when you come into your kingdom).

@@_ready__ "Follow Jesus; Do whatever He tells you "

@@_ready__ You die and are in a state of holiness, or sanctification. You recieve that holiness either on Earth or in purgatory. You get to purgatory by dying in a state of grace You get grace ordinarily through the sacraments.

All protestants don't do the breaking of bread every Lord's Day? Is that what you claim?

I’m Catholic but they do communion it’s not the real presence but Lutheran are closer in thought of communion than other Protestants

That chart is dirty pool on many levels. Calling it strawman is an insult to strawmen.

In a way that is true, but you must realize that although your sin is completely forgiven, the effect of your sin still remains - you don't all of a sudden become a perfect person. Therefore, after confession a person should do works and try to earn God's grace so that he may become "spiritually healthy". "Raised up from sin, the sinner must still recover his full spiritual health by doing something more" (Catechism, #1459)

@@user-rw1oe8zd6k Sure, that is where indulgences and penances can come in, and the teaching of Purgatory. However, that is not what the Protestants making the chart were trying to communicate.

@@Catholicsquirrel Totally agree with you :)

I am trying to get the context of that verse. It seems to be tied to the struggle of the desire to serve God while the flesh still sins? The next verse is something about the "law of the Spirit of life." When Paul makes those kinds of statements, I have a hard time understanding exactly what he is talking about.

@Chris Dotson From what I know, this passage has to do with juxtaposing the Law with Christ. As in, there was condemnation under the Law but now under Christ we can obtain freedom from sin. Specifically, that we cannot keep the Commandments without the grace of God through Christ.

@@john-el9636 It seems he is trying to make sense of why he keeps sinning in some way. The previous verses seem to be saying that since he has been enlightened by the Spirit, he can see the warring natures within himself. Will he be condemned for the sins that he continues to commit, even though, in his heart, he desires not to? The answer to that seems to be something to do with the work of Christ and how that relates to this "law of the Spirit."

@Carl Poppe - He did more than just 'believe' - for example: 1. he **rebuked** his peer, the other thief on the cross ('have you no fear of God'). 2. he **confessed** out loud his guilt ( 'We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve.' ). 3. he **proclaimed** out loud Jesus's innocence ('But this man has done nothing wrong') 4. he **asked** (uttered with his mouth) for Jesus to remember him ('Jesus, remember me ..').. 5. he **acknowledged** publicly Jesus Kingdom ('..when you come into your kingdom).

He learned about Jesus, His Kingdom and His teachings at some point prior to that moment. Furthermore, all of it would have taken place before he was apprehended and condemned to be crucified. Jail ministry would not have been yet functioning nor possible. That means that he might have even been baptized and repented of his previous life days, weeks or even months before that moment.

Sounds like you've got a good approach. Remember that the Holy Spirit is the one who does the heavy lifting in conversions. Be sure you're praying for your best friend throughout all of this. - Kyle

As a Protestant, I can say that our position is that our view of salvation is not that ours is simple and yours is complicated. It's that yours (the Catholics) is wrong. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly demonstrates this: “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast.”

@@thebeatnumber Should christians be baptized?

@@thebeatnumber Ephesians 2:8-9 is talking about not being saved by works of the Law of Moses only (circumcision, Sabbath keeping, etc) as you would know if you read in context of verses 10-17. That’s the same topic of Romans and Galatians and Acts chapter 15, the judaizer controversy. It has nothing to do with no being justified by works of the law of Christ, as Paul himself makes clear in Romans 2:4-13 and Galatians 6:1-10, saying weare only judged worthy of eternal life by persevering in good works by the Holy Spirit (not Mosaic law works).

@@knuttyse7883 The most important baptism for a Christian is baptism of the Holy Spirit. Not every Christian can experience a water baptism.

@@_ready__ believe and obey Jesus!

@@_ready__ love God and neighbor!

I suppose the only pushback I'd offer on this is that final perseverance is a gift that you cannot be 100% confident that you will receive. It's incredibly important to pray for that grace so that you will ultimately be saved. - Kyle

I should add, it’s not just being a “practicing Catholic” that gives me confidence. I have a close personal relationship with Jesus. I love Him with all my heart and soul. I strive daily to imitate Him. I fail miserably most days but Jesus knows my heart. I have eschewed the world and made God the center of my life. So I don’t think about any “saved” formula.

@@TheCounselofTrent Ok. So it’s possible between now and my death I completely reject God and I go to hell. But I don’t think the Saints thought like that. Jesus asks that we Trust In Him.

@@TheCounselofTrent Yes. That is called presumption. Of course we can’t assume. But I don’t think we can live in fear either.

The dead don't go to heaven. Show me from scripture where it states that man has an immortal soul and that on death, it goes to heaven.

Describe these made up sacraments. Sounds like you just made this up

@@geordiewishart1683 Sure “baby dedications”, sacrificing works, speaking in tongues, rigorous Bible studying, “altar calls”, “feeling the spirit” etc. Especially, the Calvinist/Reformed with the false teachings of “once saved always saved” and “limited atonement” nonsense. Most low church Protestants are gnostic.

He's talked about this subject already.

@@djo-dji6018 Yeah.. I know ...

Go Stars - Kyle

Catholics can be on board with basically everything you just articulated. So, we're really not that far off from each other. - Kyle

Yes it does seem (from my limited experience) that its Calvinists who seem to have a more dogmatic antiCatholic stance then non-Calvinists

Agree with this...seems like he is talking about Calvinists which are a small proportion of Protestants

@@TheCounselofTrent Kyle, I guess we can enjoy a brief kumbaya moment as long as the conversation goes no further than an inch deep. The devil is in the details however.

Faith and ultimately includes obedience, which ultimately includes specific required and forbidden behaviors - be like this, don't be like that. If it doesn't include attempts at obedience, it is not faith.

I listen to Evangelical Protestant radio almost every day. Face it, it's only a step up from secular heathen radio at best, and are equal to it when the preachers say exactly those things in the clips that were _not_ taken out of context. I've heard exactly those words.

Protestantism was started by Marty Luther, an addicted heretic who broke his vows to God , shacked up with a nun, was anti semitic and died by hanging after a night of binge drinking

@@kimfleury Then maybe you should stop listening to it and do a little bit of research.