Its about the same face I make every time Otto opens his mouth....to say he is annoying is an understatement....I wonder how he will take being replaced as hand of the king by Aegon? Of course at this point what will it matter, he wrongly put Aegon on the throne along with a majority on the small council other than Lord Lyman Beesbury agreeing to usurping the throne--

😅😅😅

@@juliemiller3502 Otto is actually the good guy of this season not matter what shrewd and manipulative slouch he might be personally. This is a story about a conflict, not about good vs evil. Otto wants to avoid conflict and war and keep it all in the Red Keep and under his control which is better for the realm. The Blacks are charsimatic and sympathetic people, but they also give a fuck about the common people (Daemon cleansing King's Landing, Daemon murdering a servant to substitute Laenor and Rhaenyra being fine with it, Rhaenys crushing the Sept with her dragon), they give a fuck about the customs of the natives and instead dab in neovalyrianism and fire & blood and are out for war & conquest & glory, and they care a lot about their "special" blood. The Greens are shrewd and manipulative, but are the better option for the common people. Otto Hightower is responsible for the rule of two peaceful King, he didn't sell out his child spy, he agrees to stop the child fight arenas, Alicent pays out the girl raped by her son and gives her access to abortion and comforts her, they are natives well embedded in the customs and traditions of the realm such as the Faith of the Seven, which is basically the church, while the Fire & Blood stuff of the Targs, well what was Stannis daughter's name? Poor girl... And well Alicent's sons. have all the bad traits of Blacks and Greens but none of their good. But yeah the show wants to manipulate you into rooting Team Rhaenyra by highlighting what manipulative leech Otto is as a person, while downplaying his agenda that is more told in small scenes and symbolism (like the Faith symbols replacing the Targ iconography over the timeskip), while also downplaying stuff like all the murders Daemon does after the cleansing and besides Vaemund, like Craghas Drahar (hinted to have been brutal by his mutilated corpse, yet the actual fight is offscreened), his wife Rhea Royce (downplayed as in never gets mentionend again after the wedding/ consequences not yet played out), the Velaryon servant (so quick you are only supposed to catch what was actually going on when Laenor and Qarl are revealed to be on a boat at the end of the episode). This is far more intriguing than Thrones has ever been and is definitely worth a second watch before Season 2 releases. :)

Yesssss! He just wants to kill him every time!💪🏿😂

Otto is a talker. Listening to talkers makes me thirsty. And hungry.

Lol wtf does "legitimate" mean? They've made this point a hundred times in the game of thrones series. Aegon the CONQUEROR wasn't the "legitimate" king, he was the one who won the war. Yeah she doesn't need to accept their offer but if she doesn't it will mean war and whoever wins will be the king, "legitimacy" be damned.

@@davedavidson4548 Legitimacy means by law and blood. She's the heir. It's idiotic to compare this situation to the conqueror because he "conquerered" lands, he did not inherit them. It's just not the same case.

she gets the throne then what she seats bastards on the throne, and wen she did 'win' the war she was a horrible ruler who only had fancy parties and INSANLEY HIGH TAXES, then riots came which killed her son joffrey and half the dragons in the dragon pit.

Because the 2nd queen and her offspring took off with the gold if memory serves me right… so essentially stealing from the townsfolk what exactly were they supposed to🤔

@@cristinaguzman8554 The Targaryen LAW states the the eldest SON inherits the Iron Throne from his father. Daughters have NO right to the throne and never had. Rhaenyra is a USURPER and will die a usurper's death.

And they would call her hysterical at that point. There's no right way in misogynistic society

"Conspiring" is a rather strong word. Every single person person in the Red Keep is conspiring to one degree or another. From the time of its construction by Aegon to the time of its destruction by Dany. The Great Council proved that Westeros was/is in no way shape of form ready for any kind of female leadership. The only reason its ever entertained is due to their possession of dragons to stop dissent. It doesn't matter if its misogynistic, from antiquity to present day it was/is almost exclusively males who fought and died on the battlefield and thus male leaders had the loyalty of the armies. Crowns, oaths, and gold don't inherently give you power: soldiers, steel, and blood do. It's the same thing here. Even Dany would never have made it out of the Dothraki Sea without her dragons and thats a truth people just have to deal with. The ONLY time Daemon is right is when he says "Dreams didn't make us kings, Dragons did." The dream may have saved them from the doom but it was Balerion the Black Dread and its siblings that put the 7 kingdoms to heel.

@@cirilkiril dumb

Yeah and it makes me realize she really isn’t fit to be queen she relies on others to tell her

She will be in this new season…Aemond killed Lucerys remember? The ending scene to the last episode, spoke volumes

Otto is not really worse than Daemon, he is just more underhanded while Daemon is more flamboyant with his bad deeds. Both of them are power hungry evil people they hate each other because they are much alike. I think Daemon is worse since he is more impulsive and pettier( he tried to cripple Otto's son in the tournament by cheating and atacking his horse's legs just to spite Otto). Daemon is also more sadistic and enjoys using violence (when he slaughtered people in the streets and killed Vaemond) while Otto is more indiferent to its use, he prefers not to use it but when he does he has no empathy for his victims( when he executed the lords who stayed loyal to Rhaenyra).

@@masterplokoon8803 man these are true asf but this doesn't stop the deamon stan from he is an angel and otto is the devil himself

Was there any reason Aegon couldnt refuse the throne and for Aemond to take it? Exactly this happened generations later when Aemon refused

@@kvltofsobek90 the greens' arguement is that they are the suporters of the law and pass the throne to the eldest son. Bending the rules to give the throne to Aemond when Aegon already has kids of his own who are in front of Aemond in the line of sucession would destroy whatever image of legitimacy the greens had. They had to crown Aegon. Aemon was a maester and therefore could use his vows to refuse the throne and he had no children to follow him.

@@masterplokoon8803 if daemon stans could read they would be really upset about this

Agreed. Rhaenyra wouldn't have done anything to her half-siblings as long as they didn't openly contest her claim to the throne and even then, she'd probably have preferred to exile them to the Night's Watch or the Faith rather than kill them.

@@samalvey8168 She would have moved over time to merge the bloodlines. Her kids with her brothers or their grandkids together. Otto was gonna murder her legitimate sons and that is why he wanted them at KL instead of her sons by Strong since their reputation was tarnished enough through gossip. He may have had a hand in killing her grandfather Baelon as well. Otto is the most dangerous man on the chessboard.

​@@samalvey8168 she likely would put her siblings to the sword out of paranoia. She did demand one of them be tortured.

absolutely yes

@@umitencho BS Otto is kind for the smallfolk and wants to avoid war. He didn't sell out his child spy, he stopped the child fights when asked for, he wants to avoid war and is responsible for the rule of two peaceful Kings. Alicent paid out the girl raped by her son and gave her access to abortion. The Hightowers are unsympathetic people, shrewd and manipulative, probably not likeable, but they are kind to the smallfolk and not warmongers. Otto never murederd Viserys, despite all other Targ lines - Rhaenys', Rhaenyra's and Daemon's being out of the castle and Viserys being a walking corpse. The reason why Viserys doesn't voice out his suspicion of Otto murdering Baelon is because he knows it is BULLSHIT and Otto is his friend, but their trust has been destroyed and now the seeds of doubt are plagueing Viserys. Appendix infection is common cause of death for people of any age even nowadays if left untreated, we can treat it well now, but back then... Otto definitely didn't murder Baelon based on his behavior with Viserys, and I don't think he would have murdered Rhaenyra's babies either. Killing babies is a moral taboo in Westeros and the Hightowers are pious, they aren't the Cleganes lol nor do they dwell in fire and blood. Otto would have married them into more Hightower branches asap or send them into the Faith or the Citadel to become Septons or Maesters in which case they have to be celibate. The most dangerous man is Larys Strong. That guy has basically danger written on his forehead.

No, she is not. The eldest SON inherits.

​@@drdst27 The King named Rhaenyra the heir. The Lords recognized her as heir and made vows of loyalty towards her. When Aegon was born, Viserys still mantained Rhaenyra as heir. Going against that is treason.

@@juanlaise1059 having bastards and giving the throne and Driftmark to them is treason.

@@kenfresno5218 Having bastards isn't treason lol. How many bastards die King Robert have? Besides Laenor aknowledged them as his own. So did Lord Corlys and Rhaenys. And even then, since they would wed the daughters of Laena, the Velaryon blood would still own Driftmark.

@@juanlaise1059 Yeah but before Velaryon blood inherits, Strong blood will. See the issue?

And now the dragon landing behind them isn't their salvation, but the obstacle to their escape. Love it. Hell of a diplomatic move. "You're now surrounded, act accordingly."

Syrax is the least intimidating dragon😂😂

@@insultlktell that to Joffrey

​@@adb8003you wrong for this 💀

the show really didn’t manage to show the size of the dragons well

The book describes Syrax as spoilt and fat dragon that no longer hunts for food.

They have to play this out so it looks like they ahve been robbed of their rights which they have. In short they don't want to make the 1st move in the war. The greens need to do that and everyone will come running to help the heir whose throne has been stolen and now her family is under attack.

That would make Caraxes the Red Worm Red Noodle ill. Best not to.

In the books she never uses the dragon

@@Miuranger1 yup I know I read the Fire and Blood 3 times. But still I'll be very fine with it if they utilize Syrax in the show.

@@Miuranger1 She did not go to battle yes, but when she takes King's landing she arrives on dragonback and she and Laena spent a lot of time together riding their dragons.

​​@@siphiwokuhlekhumalo9835 yes even when she was younger she rode Syrax & would race with Daemon & Caraxes.

Admit it rhaenyra is as useless as aegon ain't no way she is fit to be the protector of realm.😅

Syrax is going to kill Joffrey strong and will be killed by the people of kingslanding

It is the only action syrax will get bloody useless dragon

@@hirushadilhara7097 that dragon killed her own riders last living bastard so it a great debt to relam 😁

@@debamlyabanerjee4067 I think syrax is secretly green

@@hirushadilhara7097 🤣🤣🤣

It’s giving “you are now one of my elite employees😯😬” lmfaooooo

HOSTAGES

No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart’..

Allah and god are the same. There are no multiple gods

@@adamkowalski8835 First off, I'm *clearly* talking about the gods in the show. Second, I'm an atheist, and you've just disregarded almost every religion on the planet that isn't Abrahamic - go preach elsewhere.

@@amany247 Jesus Christ is the only God. You speak of a god you do not know nor have a relationship with. Muhammad wasn't even born until 500 years after Jesus rose from the grave. The quran has fulfilled no prophecy, it has been rewritten so many times no one knows what the original even says. Their is no truth to islam and the only way to the Father is through the Son. I speak because of Christ because I know Him and have a relationship with Him and because He has healed me from disease. You may know Him too if you truly seek the Truth.

Bro made a comment about acting, yall out here trying to indoctrinate him into your cult. Classic internet

They're bastards. If it's wrong for Cersei Lannister to try to place her bastard son on the Iron Throne, Rhaenyra is equally wrong. In any case Rhaenyra has no right to the Iron Throne. Rhaenys should have been queen and it might have ended all of this nonsense..

@@gerardjagrooI mean it’s not really the same. In Cersei’s situation, the throne is usurped because it’s not the monarch’s offspring that’s named heir, that’s not the case for Rhaenyra’s bastards.

Bro, why are you spoiling?

​@@gerardjagroo It is wrong for a bastard to sit the throne by medieval rules only, and let's get real even then that didn't strictly apply. There's nothing that makes it morally wrong.

@@gerardjagroo In GoT Ned even searches for Roberts bastards, because they would be heirs. Rhaenyra is the heir, not Laenor, so her bastards are capable of being heirs as well, while cerceis arent.

and the tragedy is you spoiling things like that.

@@ricardoalcantaracampos4811 The outcome is already spoiled by Joffrey. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ac9peNx33M6UaYk.html&ab_channel=ShowsVideos

More importantly it was the blood of Daemon Targaryen and not Harwin Strong :)

​@@sou713nah, more importantly, it was the blood of Daemon, not Otto Hightower

​@@sou713Harwin didn't do shit to anybody so his bloodline continuing wouldn't hurt anybody. But Otto's bloodline continuing is another story.

@@TheMelodicDreams His bloodline could continue literally anywhere else except on the Iron Throne. His sons are bastards.

That's not how history remembers it

And without being a absolutely catastrophe for the smallfolk. Otto and the Hightowers might be shrewd and manipulative, but they are kind for the small folk, as shown by Otto being responsible for the rule of two peaceful Kings, him not selling out his child spy, him ending the child arena fights as requested, Alicent paying out the girl raped by her son and giving her access to abortion...Meanwhile Daemon performed a Cleansing chopping hands off, and murdered his wife, and the poor guy that substituted Laenor. Otto had Lord Caswell murdered to prevent a war. Cole murdered Lyman Beesbury, who was 76 years old and would have kicked the bucket next week anyways, granted Cole is a psycho. But Otto is certainly not Tywin Lannister, who annihilated House Castamere, who did the Red Wedding in cahoots with the Freys and Boltons, who had the Hound and the Mountain and various other lapdogs raze the country. Tywin was a Tyrant, Otto is a scheming dick who is very power-hungry for the standing of his house but is otherwise a leftist politically that wants to rule with peace and all bellys fed, and all conflicts under his control in the Red Keep. You have to watch the show again to understand it properly, this is not about villains vs heroes, it is about charismatic, progressive but ruthless Targs vs shrewd and conservative but kind Hightowers, who in their scheme accidently raise Targ children only inheriting the bad qualities from either side (poor Helaena aside), and then, well we see that play out in the show...

This otto and his pathetic drunken family

Aegon is the king's eldest born son

@@kngoepe4200 what of it?

@@Unknown-ux1uo hes the king

@@kngoepe4200 usurper king, he even knows viserys didn't want him to be his heir.. for now he is the king, but he is not her king.

Dracarys

It wasn’t really an accident he wanted to intimidate him and Vhagar took it farther because it’s a fucking dragon.

@@zacharyradford5552 That's what I call an accident

@@zacharyradford5552 Aemond is visibly shaken by the result of his foolish game.

@@zacharyradford5552 It definitely was. Aemond acts all tough and scary, but he is in reality a very poor guy trapped in the stories of glory and conquest he's been reading as a kid all while getting bullied for not having a dragon. Aemond is stuck in his own fantasy, that's why he dresses up like edgelord air pirate sky rider. He thinks he is a conqueror and has to intimidate others as that lies within his nature, but its actually just method acting gone wrong.

No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart’..

Well to be honest, taking the deal would ensure the survival of their House and their own lives (possibly). Neither the blacks, nor the greens understood that it's not really about yourself, it's about the survival of your house and the realm. How they could not see that the Hightowers were pitting them against each other is beyond me. It is obvious, even under Viserys' rule. Viserys even realized it himself, that's why he dismissed Otto. But it still was a pretty bad offer. One that doesn't even address the elephant in the room: the dragons. I think that no surrender would have ever worked if they didn't give up their dragons. Which Daemon certainly never would. If the surrendering side gets to keep their dragons, they are too much of a threat to the Iron Throne.

She is a breeding dragon who was kept indoors most her life. She is highly spoiled and never hunts aka it stunted her growth

That's a VFX model from episode 2 they still used. It was to save costs. Syrax will be bigger next season when they have more money. Cause She would have to be for the story to make sense.

Syrax was bred for speed over size and kept in confinement more often than she flew/hunted.

​@@aegonthedragon7303Syrax was a big dragon in the book. They did not make her bigger after the time-skip because the entire cgi budget was taken up by Vhagar vs Arrax in that episode

Those are high position considering they are fourth and fifth children of rhaenyra and have been sired by her uncle. Eventually they could have been used for marriages to stregthen the targaryens hold over westeros.they would be princes of the blood and dragon riders, any lord would be happy to have them as good sons.

I think you misheard friend. Otto says that Lucerys will inherit Driftmark and all the lands and holdings of house Velaryon. Aegon, the younger and Viserys are to be the king's squire and cupbearer. But yes, the way Otto says "Lucerys" sounds a little like "Viserys"

He's got more firepower, more money, way more church support, and better advisors than Aegon the Conqueror did so that's something. If you ripped off the crown from his head he probably would be happy or just not care. Sunfyre might eat you though. My point is that even the most pathetic Targaryens (Pretty much all of them after Aegon I) have something going for them: privilege. I'd mess with them after their dragons became dead.

@@user-ti5cw1ug6l not more firepower. sunfyre and tessarion are impressive dragons but they are not comparable at all to the original 3 conqueror dragons. balerion was about the same size as vhagar is now, and meraxes was massive too. the only thing the greens have in terms of real firepower is vhagar and she was one of the og conquerer dragons too

@@Funtimesuntime3 What I meant by that is more dragons. More dragons means you can reign fire down in different places. If you are an army and you go up against Balerion or Sunfyre the outcome will be the same. You are equally screwed as they are both adult dragons. At some point extra size doesn't add anything but more dragons always will. Dragons like Verrmax and Arrax are too small however and they certainly wouldn't be able to take out great armies by themselves.

@@user-ti5cw1ug6l yeah but I'm still a bit confused on your point? like the greens only had 3 dragons more or less since helaena was taken out of commission. all the other dragons belonged to the blacks or they were rogue. i guess technically both aegons had the same number of dragons on their side, but the first aegon's dragons were much bigger and more powerful, hence more firepower edit: and what i mean by firepower is destructive capability. i dont think any of the greens dragons with the exception of vhagar, who is also a conqueror dragon, would be capable of completely destroying dorne for instance as easily as meraxes and balerion could. sunfyre and tessarion are much smaller than them.

@@Funtimesuntime3 Balerion was bigger than Vhagar

APPARENTLY!!!!!! THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!!

Yes ❤

I wont so keep crying the targs come back strong in the books. seethe

and robert has targaryen blood which is the only reason why the great houses allowed him to be their king... the targs still never lost😂😂

​@@OreoCookie324the Targaryens came back strong in the books ? What 😂😂 a 16 year old girl 🤣🤣 and Robert didn't ask anyone about him being King , he just took the crown and the Throne becuse he could

​@@OreoCookie324The Targs don't leave for another 200 years..I don't know what you on abt

Lol and you’re proud to support a wife killer and mad queen who plots to kill her sister children? Really these black supporters lacks common sense

@@amandahiya8989 you make me feel a lot better about myself

Rhaenyra and Daemon conspire to murder children next season. They even murdered an innocent guy *this* season while finding someone to take the role of Laenor's corpse so he could leave to Pentos. This show has clearly demonstrated that both teams are not above evil acts to further their own goals. Sorry that's too much for your childlike mind to handle. Maybe stick to fairy-tales and babies' shows where good and evil are very clearly defined and never deviate. The whole point of this show is to explore the depths people will go to when they believe themselves infallible and right, and the lies they tell themselves so they can avoid the true horror of their actions. You've played right into that by actually being dumb enough to pick a "team", cause now you're gonna have to justify what they are going to do in this show in order to stay pure so much that the hypocrisy will twist you into pretzels and you're gonna end up sounding like a pretty bad person if you take it too seriously. You're going to have to simultaneously feign outrage over the killing of Lucerys while also hand-waving away the deliberate and calculated murder of an innocent, neuro-divergent Princess's/Queen's (Helaena's) toddler right in front of her by hired thugs. Yes these are spoilers. I don't care if you know what's coming or not. If you do that's arguably even worse. Numb-nuts, both teams do some evil stuff in this war. Also you're clearly a weirdo without a personality if you have to live vicariously through a character on a TV show and bring said conflict out into the real world to other people. There's a reason you have to make the effort to "feel better about [yourself]" - It's because you're a bad person with bad habits, and you know that deep down. And no, I haven't picked a team, I'm just laughing at the fact you have. Weak-minded.

If you feel dumb, remember there are people chosing teams in a show whose whole point is that no one is right and everyone is wrong.

@@morgumal When it comes to legitimacy, you're pretty dumb if you choose to be team green pal, that's the bottom line.

It's his sons from rhenera

@@-_--qn4mu yes I was referring to ryneryas son that was actually attacked by a dragon

The terms mentioned her sons by Daemon that is baby Aegon and Viserys to be Aegon's cupbearers

Yay offer up her six year old as a hostage instead of her toddlers.

I don't think so. It's just the way Rhys speaks

In the books they were more background characters. Lord Tyrell is married to a Hightower and mum to Loras and Marg

At the time of the books, the Hightowers are rich and powerful af. Margaery's mom is a Hightower.

Haha 😂😂 Rhaenyra will be burned alive by Aegon II , Rhaenys will get killed by Aegon II , Jace dies in battle , Joffrey gets killed by Rhaenyra's dragon , Daemon and Aemond will die in dragon battle , people of King's Landing kill almost every dragon and Otto will die too Only Alicent , Rhaena , Baela , Aegon II , Aegon III and Viserys II will survive the Dance

Not to forget the velaryons fleet and the riches of house velaryon at their disposal

That offer was an insult and they all knew it

Rhaenyra is about to get really hottie when Aegon roasts her with Sunfyre 😂😂😂😂😂

​@@gerardjagroo Aegon II is about... oh i forgot... he's about nothing. Just like his entire useless bloodline 😂😂😂😂😂

@@hereiam8he was remembered as the king after viserys and Rhaenyra has a shameful usurper

so would olenna, ned and caitlyn. tywin and stannis not so much

@@MeleysTessarion Stannis would have burned his own children and failed at everything lmao

Danny , jon , ned all the starks , Tyrion, olenna All would have supported her

Considering Rhaenyra was her ancestress it would be beyond weird if she didn't.

She would have supported herself and created a third faction

Because Otto came as a diplomat. It wouldn't be good for your side to kill a diplomat no? The damage it would do to the reputation of the blacks far outweighs the benefits of having Otto killed because even if they have won, they would have that stain on their name. That action might even detract support for the blacks from the houses that are still hesitant to pick a side.

@@soulblade3291 Yeah, can you imagine how well the Starks, for example, would respond to that?

Aegon was a drunk mass rapist who had hundreds of bastard children fighting in the pits. Not to mention he never even wanted to be King and he made that clear over and over again. Besides, the Kings word is law. Viserys wanted his daughter as Queen. All those that went against that oath are the real traitors plain and simple.

What do you mean?

Daenerys' dragons were wyverns as well