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o.m.g. , using those magnetised tool trays to hold the chuck keys and stuff - what a brilliant idea !!! We'll be copying that straight away 😃

I'd advise against using the magnets to hold your cutters. You''ll get steel chips in the collets and then your cutters will exhibit runout.

This press has worked like a charm for my projects kzfaq.infoUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!

I haven’t watched you in a while. I was attracted to your channel because of your belt grinder series. Now it seems you are an advertiser for products. You’ll love a traditional Bridgeport or clone. Knee Mills are a requirement as is a medium sized lathe

A bridgport type knee mill takes a 6 by 7 foot spot. BUT, there is a knee mill that take a 4 by 5 foot spot. Often called a tool room mill , this knee mill can be found made by many MFG. The one I have is a Millrite, sold/made by Powermatic. grizzly sells one. If you are thinking about one of these mill/drills, don't . get a knee mill.

My former mill was a rf25, virtually the same as you have except mine had a morse 3 taper in the quill. The modifications I made to it, was to change the motor to three phase, so having a reverse, also variable speed on the motor, as well as the belt change. Power feed on the x axis. The reason I changed it, I wanted a DRO, and not to have to tram the head when lifting it. Bruce Witham from West Australia has since built a kit that stops that problem. I did have my mill for over 25 years... Good Luck with it....

Loved your closing comments! I feel exactly the same why. Just keep building.

Yes I agree, a milling machine is a must have in the shop. Nive Video!

Great video..thank you. Just got a g0760 grizzly mill drill machine

The machine shop I bought my ENCO 13x40 lathe from has a Bridgeport style MSC knee mill that they said they'd sell to me really cheap. I just don't have the room in my garage for this thing. We'd like to build a shop in the backyard but ya know...money. Great video. I'm having a blast with hobby machining so far.

Enjoyed the video. I got my mill drill in 1994 and still use it often I added DRO and power feed years ago, helps a lot. Later from Texas.

I can blame you and this video for the 790lb monstrosity in my shop! Found an old Jet 16 with a bunch of tooling right after watching this. Quite a challenge getting it home and off of the trailer. Now I gotta build a stand for it so I can start on my Revolution 2X72 belt grinder sitting in boxes in the shop! Thanks Brian!

Thank you for taking the time to impart such valuable knowledge. Very useful. Your video deserves more views.

HF for the win! It’s like there’s an art to knowing what tools to buy from there and which ones to get somewhere else

I’ve had the same machine for moe than 20 years. My unit is labeled CRAFTX. There is really only one major issue with these mills. Backlash. If you are new to the milling machine, it can take some time to hone your technique to the point where it is not issue. The best add on to the machine, by far, is a DRO. I purchased one a few years ago and don’t know why I waited so long. The unit I purchased was under $300.00. It provides accurate readings for 3 axis. Most importantly, it revealed a wear spot in the middle of one of my lead screws. If you can afford it, get one. Worth every penny.

I’ll buy myself a coffee but I’ll think about this video while enjoying it bro

Get some water soluble cutting fluid, mix it up and put it in a squirt bottle. It will keep your cutters a lot cooler than the oils, and won't smoke as much.

I have a similar machine I basically use as a fancy drill press. I have a big cnc mill so I don't do much milling in it anymore. My first mill was a harbor freight mini mill, and it is also a decent basic mill to have. I cnc co certed mune and made a crap ton of parts with it. It was awesome.

Fantastic review of the tool. Seriously need one of these in my life!

Thanks, I just picked up one of these mills and am researching it. Some good tips! New subby

Thanks for the feedback on the mill Brian. I can't imagine how satisfying it is to have such a versatile asset in your shop!

Just found your channel. Love your format. I just got my Grizzly G0704, never machined a thing in my life. Lots of learning, so thanks for making the beginners videos.

Just got the same mill and bunch of tooling. Having used knee mills this is for smaller parts. Subscribed!

Well, by now you've mastered the mill. Probably the lathe also. I went from owning a production woodshop full of CNC equipment to retired and hobby metalworking. It's a challenge to keep learning new things. Love being able to design and make things in metal. I repair things for friends and my past business. I buy things as needed (wanted) to expand my capabilities. Lots of tooling, attachments to make something easier. The cheap Chinese stuff makes it possible and if I find a repeating need I'll buy something better. A mill and lathe go together as one system. I bought a very used melt furnace, $45 and have had a good time learning to cast aluminum and then machine them into things that would be difficult to make from solid. I like your 2 x 72 belt grinder. Have fun!

Mine is identical but here in Australia, the brand is Hafco. Good tip on the lights - thanks.

Thanks for information definitely I’m going to buy the mill!

I just bought the exact same mill. Mine is Busy Bee branded, model B314. I think its from the late 80's. Nice solid machine and pretty much the biggest benchtop you can get.

Hey dude, get yourself a set of parallels for using in the vice, really useful.

Very useful, practical how to, thanks!

THANK YOU!!!!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

Thanks for the links!

Thanks for the clamp link bro!

thanks for sharing experience talks

Hi Brian,first happy new year,and thanks for sharing ....this video....

I’m just now shopping for one

Everything was going well with my new mill-drill until my mom broke up with a machinist. All the sudden "my" tools disappeared! I've been going through my head trying to think of all the tools I need to use this thing now that they are gone lol. I was really starting to wonder about what I would use for large and or flexible workholding, that fixture kit is exactly what I need. Thank you.

WD 40 is ideal for aluminum, and cheaper than tapping fluids, plus it's good for the machinery surfaces. Tap Magic or whatever you like best is good for everything else. I just picked up a used CNC mini mill yesterday.

These are made by Rung-Fu, a good manufacturer. Grizzly is pretty good on support. I bought mine from them in 1998. I still use it all the time, and have made some major modifications. There are a lot of excellent coolants. I usually use a water soluble cutting oil made for sawing, but at different concentrations for different work. Other coolants for different things. For example, the best, easily obtainable, and inexpensive coolant for aluminum, brass, bronze and magnesium is WD-40. No question. Also, with these not very rigid machines, always try to keep the head as low as possible. For drilling, it’s not important, but for milling, every inch the head is raised gives more vibration and chatter. So try to keep your setups as close to the table height as possible.

One thing we used in a machine shop I worked in was a fixture plate. We used a 1 inch plate with dowels in place for stops and the plate was threaded in places for hold down clamps. If you find yourself running a lot of parts and want speed and constancy you cannot beat it. A really good and cheap cutting fluid is water with a bit of Dawn dish detergent. Mix it. Don't shake it. It works great and you don't get oily residue all over the place. You want to wipe your parts dry immediately otherwise it will start to rust. I didn't believe it till I used it, but it really works.

Shopping around for a mill right now and this video was really informative. Didn't even think of the extra expenses I'd need to budget for until watching this. Thank you! Also, pro tip for you: instead of using a paint brush or vacuum, keep a large magnet on hand. Just swipe past the shavings and it's all set. Then clean that directly into the trash as needed. I did that with my grinder and saws. In fact, I have mine just stay right there as I'm using the machines, and 99% of what's generated just goes directly onto the magnet without me doing anything. Great channel, brother, I'm subscribing!

Thanks for the great video. I can do a little of everything else, but have never gotten into using a mini-mill. What would be good training to learn before you dive into before thinking of buying?

Great advice!

yes I need one

I just bought a second hand mill today and this video came up again (have previously watched it). Even more excited now. Just about finished my 2x72 HW grinder. It's bloody awesome! Tell me where you got your apron. It looks great

I recently had to mill and cut out some broken exhaust bolts out of two Ford FE Cylinder Heads using this machine. There would be no way I would have been able to accomplish said task using anything other than a milling machine. I had to be dead precise as to not damage the existing threads. End mills are very handy to cut or bore the center of a broke off bolt. Drill bits tend to walk, bend, or break unless it has some kind of dimple or bore to work with.

Hi Brian, nice video. I stumbled on to it because I'm looking at buying one of those mills you mentioned. Thanks for the tips and I'm going to check out more of your videos, I subscribed! and just started following you on Instagram.

Can’t beat a mill.

Fireball tools makes a base platon for work holding that would work great.

Great video. What model Enco mill do you have? Thanks, Paul

Hey .. that used to be mine! LOL So glad that we connected and you were the one that took ownership of the mill, lathe and other tools. I love being able to catch your videos and see the mill in use. When will you have the lathe up and going? Going to do a video on it too? That lathe has some history and I'm sure it will be another useful tool for you. Start getting used to the tools .. I have a couple of projects to discuss with you. :) Awesome video .. as always. Keep killin it man!

Very good video,objective and informative. Gives a solid perspective on past and present thinking and does influence a rational need. Thank you for your video.i am also now a new scriber too. Cheers Troy

It's funny. I have a mill and I am always fiddling getting projects secured in my vice! My mill is so much better holding materials down vs a drill. Starting today, I'll look at using the mill instead of the drill press!

There is a guy in Western Australia called Bruce Whitman who makes a simple, retro-fit mount for your mill that will allow you to keep the head lined up with your table when you unlock the head and raise your z access crankarm. I think it’s about $AU400... and he’ll deliver everywhere. One of the downsides of those column mills is loosing accuracy when you raise the head (say to fit a taller collet/tool). Fwiw: I have the Australuan hare&forbes model and I too love it!

I've got the same machine, ser. # 298. Nice machine.

Great video thank you! I just got an Rung Fu-30 given to me by a good friend. All appears to be working on it but the Fine Feed Engagement Control. Do you know if there is a drawing depicting the detail assembly for it or a video of someone taking it apart and servicing it? I think it is just not assembled correctly. Thank you.

Hey Brian it’s good to see you cutting steel most of the time the mill drill machines are being shown cutting aluminum. I’m a tool room machinist with 42 years experience I’m considering a mill drill for my garage I have some really cool projects to do and by the way what does anyone think about the harbor freight 1 1/2 horse mill drill I would like to know how it preforms.

I have a round column 30 series benchtop mill too. It is pretty handy. Not the most rigid mill ever made though.

Really good content as usual! Thanks for the work you put into this!

Umm yeah ive wanted one for a while 😂 i dont want to settle for a cheap one though. Looks like you got nice one👍

The phrase you need is called "work holding" :) It's an entire science around machining, as is "setup" I haven't been long on your channel, which was my loss I dig your latest belt grinder, and intend to build one

How does one learn how to use the mill. I’m a longtime woodworker. So I have somewhat of a background. I would love to learn how. I would need some type of coarse with the particular mill I would be using. Plus I now have a limited budget so I would probably have to start with a smaller mill. Thx.

could you please make a video on how to oil the machine uo like under the ways and the lead screws. thanks. it never occurred to use magnetic trays up top. great job on your content.

How about details on your shop apron. Also what was that bottle you use for tap magic tia

Your mill is legit! Love it... want one

Rong-fu make all these round pillar machines. Jet, enco, et la are rebrands...

Every half-ass machinist ( I’m not even that good) knows to NEVER use their hand to touch chips on rotating machinery. I knew too but had a case of the dumbs that resulted in trip to ER - luckily I still have fingers attached. Always use a brush or lightweight hook that will easily slide from your fingers.

I think I would add a coolant tank and pump to have a constant flow of lube/coolant

Thanks for the commentary. I've come across, and am considering, a "Speedway Series" mill similar to what you're showing here, but probably smaller. It's perhaps 10 years old and hardly used. So everything on these chinese machines is metric (well, except collets, marked as 1/2", etc.). Have you had trouble finding metric accessories such as the hold-down tooling and so forth? For instance, the t-nuts used with hold-downs are probably not going to be standard sizes.

Hello Bryan, Enjoy your videos. I just acquired a drill mill similar to yours. I am thinking about using ER collets. Have you had any experience using the ER Colets? I would like to know what you think? Thanks, Davie

Check out Winky's Workshop mods which include method to keep head the head aligned when raising or lowering and his power lift for the head.

I feel like I'm ready to become an expert Miller lol

Maaaaaaaan I have been eyeballing a small benchtop mill FOREVER.... just can't seem to pull the trigger on one!!!

Three years ago you praised your Enco Milling drilling machine model 105-1110. Now that three years have past do you still praise the machine? The reason I am asking is that I am looking to purchase one.

If you are happy with it then whatever you do DO NOT LOOK AT A INDUSTRIAL MILLING MACHINE!!!! It`s like the two foot disease thingy with boats and you will end up with a 4000 pounds milling machine made in Switzerland. Guess how i know.... On the other hand if you more and more often think that you really should upgrade, go big! The bigger they get the cheaper they are.

Once you have a mill watch some Joe joe Pieczynski and This Old Tony videos for inspiration. Even if you don't do machining, or other manly things you should check out their work.

You should avoid milling and drilling directly on the mill table. Support it on 123 blocks

What apron you rockin?

LED lights are dangerous if your machine is only lit by them, because of the strobe effect. Cutting tools appear stationary if the speed and power frequency are the same 3000 rpm for me in UK and 3600 for you.in US

any tips on mounting the machine? do you just keep it on its stand or bolt it to your concrete floor?

question : if you already have mill machine, why you still buying drill press?

Convert it to CNC and you'll find that it is infinitely more useful than a plain Mill. I'd never go back to a manual Mill, it's so limited.

wow, I have the same mill/drill, the Hobart mig welder in the background, the same blast cabinet and the same size drill press. But I don't have that same haircut. Who cut your hair Seargent Stadainco?(SP) "Gheech and Chong" , that being said I was trained on a Bridgeport and everything after that is...Well no as good. I liked your video, keep them coming.

What would you suggest I get first, can't decide a lathe or a mill?

if anyone know’s the answer it’s this guy..i asked this old engineering shop operator (50years+) what cutting fluid the cutting/cooling fluid he used he said milk/water mix not sure on the ratio but he had a shop FULL of these type of tools and he uses that on EVERYTHING

Fuuuuck LED'S. I have a bag FULL of the damn things that burned out. And when they DO WORK- they strobe. I stocked up on quarts bulb over the last q0+ years as they went on sale. I personally LOVE the little quartz halogen desk lamps.

the time has come for me as well to buy the milling machine, but my budget is very small, I can barely spend USD800 on it. do you often need the long work table or do you think 500mm or less would suffice? I really want the milling machine but it scares me, because I know that even IF I find a cheap one, I will keep adding stuff to it like DRO, auto feeder and whatever is out there, and I will end up spending 4 times the initial amount. that makes me think, maybe I should wait 1-2 years, save up the proper amount, and buy my "final" milling machine with 70mm, DRO, auto feed, powerful brushless motor etc. do you think it's better to start modest / small, and upgrade to the beast, or save the cash and go for the beast? it's the 1st time your channel was recommended to me, and it looks very interesting, I will explore it further.

How heavy is it? Light enough to be carried by one person from the bench to the store room? Incase there is confinement of space at the workshop

Mills and lathes are the best things invented since... Wait, there's no since. Ever. Period.

8:25 wait, fire is BAD??!?!? 😱 😂🤣

ever try putting the magnetic trays in a ziplock bag? That would allow you to take them out of the bag every now and then and the metal shaving should just fall off.

Hey there, sounds like your doing well with your new mill, however I strongly suggest taking a machine tool course to do it safely, having your tooling on a magnet above your head is a huge No,no, just thought I would throw a bone there. Have a blessed day.🙂

Shame its a round column, I think I have seen it in a square version that is much more accurate for milling. If I remember Winkys workshop channel did a few updates to improve his.

Looks like a nice little mill especially if you got a deal on it, but if you were spending 2-3K on one, I'd buy a used Bridgeport mill instead.

you need a metal lathe.

Does that bad boy run on 220v?

Interesting. I shy away from magnetizing my tools. Just so shavings don’t collect. Whatever works though.

known as a table and chairs,The clamp system.

Bad habit to keep the key in the chuck, just think how that key could grab your shirt. My Bridgeport would twist me into a pretzel. No gloves, short sleeves preferred. Cheers

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