The ONE Lord of the Rings Episode to RULE Them All! w/ Ben Reinhard

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The ONE Lord of the Rings Episode to RULE Them All! w/ Ben Reinhard

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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
1:09 Introduction to Tolkien
5:20 The Unknown Tolkien
8:20 Inspiration for LOTR
17:50 Invented Languages
22:57 Elves and Orcs Origins
25:12 The Silmarillion
27:10 What if Gandalf Took the Ring?
29:09 Wisdom from Gandalf
32:50 What Does the Ring Represent?
35:30 Smart Phone Dangers
40:41 Resisting Technology’s Influence
45:02 Colonizing Our Humanity
48:40 Which Character Wrote LOTR?
50:10 WhY eAgLe No FlY?!?!
51:46 What is Gandalf?
54:30 Facing Death
59:40 Gandalf vs Sauron
1:05:22 Practical Despair
1:06:41 All’s Well that Ends Better
1:07:44 Lust for Power
1:11:24 Bilbo’s Pity of Gollum
1:13:30 Allure of Sin
1:19:22 Thursday Likes Chesterton
1:21:27 Who is THE Hero of LOTR?
1:26:22 Ireland Hates Fireplaces
1:28:45 Advice for First-time LOTR Readers
1:31:42 Worst Change in the Movies
1:34:22 Dislike for George MacDonald
1:35:15 Tolkien Conference and Party
1:36:32 Separation of Church and State
1:40:32 Favorite Tolkien Language
1:41:13 Silly Questions
1:42:40 Tolkien’s Relationship w/ Lewis
1:48:25 Favorite Book About Tolkien
1:50:00 Can LOTR Continue?
1:51:45 Rings of Power Series
1:52:54 Leaf by Niggle
1:55:39 Changed Characters in Films
1:56:39 Tom Bombadil
2:01:15 Favorite Class to Teach
2:02:50 Galadriel in Rings of Power
2:04:54 SciFi vs Fantasy
2:08:27 Why did Tolkien Not Like Dune?
2:09:58 Magic: The Gathering is Irrelevant
2:10:12 Redemption of Boromir
2:15:25 Blurring Lines of Good and Evil
2:18:27 Elvish Morality w/ Iluvatar
2:21:03 Canonization of Tolkien
2:22:30 Parting Thoughts

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@TheJmlew11 11 ай бұрын

1 minute in and it’s already more faithful to Toilken than the entirety of Rings of Power.

@TrveLatinCel 11 ай бұрын

Real

@lostcauselancer333 11 ай бұрын

I’ve taken dumps that were more faithful to Tolkien than ROP.

@christinacanto3740 11 ай бұрын

😂😂

@davidrojas6457 11 ай бұрын

RIGHT?

@AS-fu1kd 11 ай бұрын

Shhh. We don't talk about that anymore. It's the name you don't say.

@runcandy3 11 ай бұрын

Fradd blowing his nose during the interview was more faithful to Tolkien than Rings of Power.

@MichaelGlowacki 11 ай бұрын

😂 lol, if true, you have the best comment

@emilymg1 11 ай бұрын

Love it

@KittOtter 11 ай бұрын

Re Tolkien being canonized: Integrating his writings and their messages into my early life is what kept me Catholic after my turbulent teens and twenties. I rebelled against everything except my respect for him. My "identity" as a Tolkien nerd was one thing I never could cast off. Now I owe him everything for bringing me home. I really do believe he is among the Saints in heaven.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

Saints don’t exist. Good people do. Tolkien was a good person and helped you help yourself. You’ve diminished your part in healing yourself.

@loraleeellen4555 11 ай бұрын

I was raised Protestant, but Tolkien gave me hope in the midst of spiritual despair. When I was staring into the nihilistic abyss, I kept thinking to myself, "But Tolkien..." Now that I've become Catholic, the richness of his imagination has become clear. He felt different than anything else I had access to, including evangelical Christian fiction. His stories are truly works of spiritual healing and consolation, a gift from God.

@rivereuphrates8103 11 ай бұрын

Not like my opinion matters in the least, but I think it's a wonderful thing. I was already born Catholic by the time I began reading Tolkien as a teenager but later in life, I have to say, the fact that he was Catholic, and a devout one at that (and not to flex but the fact that I was born exactly 100 years to the day that he was lol) definitely kept me from leaving. There's something very powerful about this man who could conjure up such a potent and disarmingly realistic world also being a faithful, some would say strict (which can be a great thing), Catholic. Not to mention that his mythos communicates so much of the Catholic worldview in a way that maintains a respect for its complexity and beauty with absolutely no dilution. I think Tolkien has either kept many a Catholic in the fold and brought a great many more to it, and that's a great indirect service he'd be happy to learn about, I think.

@Fiona2254 11 ай бұрын

I was away from church but never away from Middle Earth. Tolkien did keep me catholic enough to make my journey back a bit more easy.

@boomct8569 7 ай бұрын

Is it just me or does anyone else’s heaven include sitting with Tolkien and Chesterton and the like whilst they smoke a pipe?

@leovanhorn3303 11 ай бұрын

This wasn’t nearly long enough. Please bring this professor back for a round 2 asap! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Awesome job.

@cornelia4427 7 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more - I enjoyed every minute of the interview. And I'd like to recommend two "must reads" about the Lord of the Rings: Craig Bernthal's "Tolkien's Sacramental Vision" and Fleming Rutledge's "The Battle for Middle Earth". These books are really mind blowing.

@aonati2856 11 ай бұрын

I highly recommend the Andy Serkis Audiobook reading. It's an immersive experience and his Tom Bombadil is literally perfect.

@Sunshine.Sister 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reminder just got his reading The Hobbit

@daveyjoneslocker4703 11 ай бұрын

MANN I bought fellowship and towers last year with the other narrator. He’s good but Andy Serkis reading The Hobbit was fantastic. Maybe if I listen to them yet again I’ll rebuy them.

@melissaamyx2196 10 ай бұрын

I have the Hobbit and all 3 LOTR audiobooks with A dy Serkis, they are INCREDIBLE!!!

@thossi09 11 ай бұрын

I love that quote at around 1:05:50 - although I'm used to a slightly different wording: "Despair is for people who know beyond any doubt what the future is going to be like. Nobody is in that position. So despair is not only a kind of sin, theologically, it's also a simple mistake because nobody actually knows. In that sense, there always is hope."

@Louisianabayou 11 ай бұрын

I actually live very close to where Tolkien used to live and I live literally a 10 minute walk away from where he would regularly go on walks. I will say it is easy to see in parts where he got his ideas from.

@benjaminwellinger1416 11 ай бұрын

You need to have Dean Koontz on your show. He is the greatest catholic writer of our time. Through Koontz's work I got interested in Catholicism. His novels, although on the surface mere suspense novels, have deep catholic symbolism, imagery and morals woven into them. His series about Odd Thomas is the story of how young man becomes a saint. Koontz talked about his Catholicism in three longform interviews on EWTN. I think Koontz could be especially interesting for Matt as an interview partner since Matt writes horror stories too (Koontz is also referred to as the best horror author besides Stephen King). Would love to see that conversation happening!

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

I’m gonna watch that. Thanks.

@krrrzzzzzz 9 ай бұрын

Dean Koontz is catholic?? So you’re telling me ever amazing person is catholic? Cool

@sandraelder1101 11 ай бұрын

I loved how Howard Shore incorporated the different languages in his film score, even using different types of voices for each people group. Seeing it performed with a live symphony and choirs while the films played behind them was truly magical.

@theflyingdutchman1432 11 ай бұрын

I had Dr. Rienhard for English class and let me tell you, I almost majored In English. Love seeing him on the show keep up the great work Matt

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

Probably for the best that you didn't major "I'm" English.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

Oops

@pveazey2951 11 ай бұрын

He’s such an awesome professor!

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

Nice try on the edit, but "In" shouldn't be capitalized before "English". Again, you did right not to declare as an English major.

@theflyingdutchman1432 11 ай бұрын

Wow didn’t expect people to kinda be jerks in a Pints with Aquinas comment section lol Enjoy the little laughs you get from people misspelling things

@herbertcrawford1392 11 ай бұрын

My dad always read Tolkien to my brother and I when we were small children so we became obsessed with all of it.

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

Yay!

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

*to my brother and me. To know when to use a subject or object pronoun, remove the other person's name: you wouldn't say "My dad read to I."

@yomama5645 10 ай бұрын

I have old memories of dad reading the Hobbit and the trilogy to my brothers and I as youngsters. Truly formative, for all of us I think. One of my most treasured memories.

@jameshayes211 10 ай бұрын

@@yomama5645 *to my brothers and me. To know when to use a subject or object pronoun, remove the other noun: it's incorrect to say "I have memories of my dad reading to I."

@christianmadore7574 11 ай бұрын

When Dr. Ben disclosed his second worst Peter Jackson screwup I literally jumped out of my chair, threw my fists in the air and yelled "Yes!!!!" I've felt this way about what Jackson did to poor Faramir for 20 years...thank you Dr. Ben.

@karenglenn2329 11 ай бұрын

Silmarillion is worth reading. Great precursor to LOTR.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

I tried to read it but I just couldn’t get plugged in.

@taramoon4822 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3i I tried and failed miserably. A new audio book narrated by Andy Serkis came out recently and I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

@IrishWriter 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3itry the audio book, if you haven't. It's exceptional.

@karenglenn2329 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3i That is how it is for some. It is not a once you are done. There is a KZfaq The Tolkien Road. The Silmarillion is broken down chapter by chapter. Tolkien is meant to be enjoyed. Take what you like and leave the rest.

@Blissfulnessence 11 ай бұрын

I read The Silmarillion after LOTR, and found that satisfying.

@maryannbautista3998 11 ай бұрын

My first time reading Lord of the Rings felt like reconnecting with an old friend.

@funandmental 11 ай бұрын

Matt’s Gandalf voice is amazing!😅

@Sunshine.Sister 11 ай бұрын

Right! When he did the Gandalf voice I was like can he do a reading of the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings? Can we do a book club??

@placebo5466 Ай бұрын

One of the best conversations I've heard in a long time. I've always chuckled to myself since I was about 13 about 'What would Gandalf do?" Now, in my 30's, I find myself grasping the deeper meanings of Tolkien's work and no longer chuckle at the thought. Many times the lessons in these stories have pulled me out of such dark places. "No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it. White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise."

@sarahnichols2744 11 ай бұрын

A parallel I can bring between several of Matt's interviews: several excorsists have made statements about how the darkness is kept at bay by the simple every day things. Or " it is the small everyday deed of ordinary folks that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love". Loved this and many interviews. Huge LOTR fan.

@jms6483 11 ай бұрын

My father read LOTR out loud to us when I was a kid. That winter provided some of the best memories of of my childhood. LOTR is still my favorite work of fiction. It is beautifully written, and is philosophically and theologically deep, and so thoroughly Catholic. Three minutes in, and I’m already loving this discussion!

@grunt12394 11 ай бұрын

I always tend to read Tolkien in the fall. My feelings of enchantment start to grow in New England that time of year. Tolkien breathes wonder back into our lives as modern nihilistic people.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

Yes, laying on the sofa in front of an open fire, reading lotr as it gets dark outside. I always imagine New England looking a lot like the English countryside. Am I right?

@professorcorrente6023 11 ай бұрын

Also in New England and was thinking the same!

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

Yay! It’s almost time to hit that road that goes on and on…👍

@arng111 3 ай бұрын

CT here, same

@elizabethj6534 11 ай бұрын

FINALLY, EVERYTHING IVE BEEN WAITING FOR. LOTR AND CATHOLICISM, THE TWO BEST THINGS ON THE PLANET

@Ignats75 11 ай бұрын

Matt has had previous shows about LOTR.

@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

LOTR is certainly one of the best things invented. Catholicism is certainly one of the worst things invented. At least something good came out of something evil. IMO.

@Ignats75 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3i Wait. You're on a Catholic apologetics channel and you make a comment like that? That says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about anyone else.

@MaaFreddy 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3iyou would have to explain your thought process. Maybe you have a distorted view. At least you don’t seem lukewarm this is a start . And who knows where the Holy Spirit brings you St Paul and St Augustin also started that way .

@bobjoneswof 11 ай бұрын

@@user-fq8rs7rz3iEvil cannot create it can only corrupt.

@jamesmerone 11 ай бұрын

Would love an episode like this for CS Lewis or GK Chestersen.

@MO51MARRIED6yrAISHA 11 ай бұрын

This video must circulate Globally 🌍!!

@kd7440 11 ай бұрын

I long for something I can't maintain . . . I hear you brother!

@Fiona2254 11 ай бұрын

Cradle catholic here who came back home 6/7 years ago. Dad gave me The Hobbit the summer I was almost 13, I only started reading when things got boring at the end of summer. I was hooked in the first chapter. I’m turning 59 this October ‘23 and have been a faithful JRR Tolkien fan even when I was away from the church. I always understood that it was very catholic but this conversation pretty much allowed me to see why I’ve always loved the books that I read every other year. Time for my next re read 😊 Blessings to both of you and everyone watching this video.

@elizabethj6534 11 ай бұрын

I AM HERE FOR THIS

@PintsWithJack 11 ай бұрын

You should interview Dr. Holly Ordway about her book "Tolkien's Faith" from Word on Fire.

@florencen4884 11 ай бұрын

Werd. Waiting on my copy!

@benulfers6861 11 ай бұрын

This is an amazingly timed episode. I was just thinking to myself earlier today I wonder if Pints with Aquinas has an episode about Tolkien or Lord of the Rings.

@McAfeeStudios 11 ай бұрын

what about this? Tom Bombadil is man fully alive; Adam that never fell. The ring is akin to the forbidden fruit. Tom has no interest in the fallen projects of men. He sings because every word from his mouth is prayer and he prays without ceasing. He has true stewardship over the garden because he is full of sanctifying grace... Or maybe he's just the spirit of the English Countryside.

@j2muw667 11 ай бұрын

Love this view!

@Toad-SG7 11 ай бұрын

I can't not tear up at Tom's song to free the Hobbits from the Wight's spell. Pure eucatastrophe. The view that every song is a prayer is wonderful. "Wake now my merry lads! Wake and hear me calling! Warm now be heart and limb! The cold stone is fallen; Dark door is standing wide; dead hand is broken. Night under Night is flown, and the Gate is open!"

@McAfeeStudios 11 ай бұрын

good stuff!@@Toad-SG7

@helenapalma2392 11 ай бұрын

I haven’t read Lewis’ space trilogy but Till We Have Faces is his absolute best work. It’s truly beautiful.

@keepclimbing2015 11 ай бұрын

Just listened to Out of the Silent Planet, really interesting book. If Mere Christianity and HG Wells had a book baby. Waiting for Perelandra and That hideous strength to be available on Libby audiobook.

@victoriabourkfrazier5043 11 ай бұрын

Perelandra is fantastic!!

@tanodrea 11 ай бұрын

When I read the books in high school there was a day where I had a few minutes of time waiting for the final bell to ring. I was mentally in Middle Earth and didn’t even hear the bell, and sat there absorbed in the story for about 15 mins and the teacher had been out of the room and came back and asked why I was still there.

@NiallMor 11 ай бұрын

I read Lord of the Rings for the first time in 7th grade. I’m now 60 years old. I had heard my older brothers talk about it, but I had no idea what it was about. I thought perhaps it had something to do with the circus. I found it in the stacks at my Catholic grade school library. I checked out the Fellowship of the Ring and brought it home. After I plowed through the extended introduction which found somewhat dry, I got into the story itself and was absolutely hooked. I couldn’t put it down. Since then I’ve read the books, listened to audio versions, and seen the films more times I can count. It is my favorite work of fiction.

@briancarroll1917 11 ай бұрын

I’d very much love to read Tolkiens depiction of Purgatory. I had no idea he did that

@ThatKenpoGuy 11 ай бұрын

If you are looking for another great Catholic epic, I'd recommend "With Fire and Sword" and "The Deluge" by Henryk Sienkewicz. It was recommended to me by my adopted Polish Babcia after I told her how disappointed I was by the lack of character in the Three Musketeers. Truly one of the most poignant and beautiful novels I have read, right up there with the work of Professor Tolkien. I'd say it had a place on every Catholic's bookshelf!

@2thirds 11 ай бұрын

You are probably well aware of that, but there is a third part to the trilogy, called Colonel Wolodyjowski

@thisisjeff9845 11 ай бұрын

I first read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings when I was 7, loved it, and have read it multiple times since then. I haven't read them since I became Catholic though, so I should do that soon. I don't have a smart phone anymore, just a flip phone. I also deleted my facebook, instagram, twitter, and a few other accounts. I kept KZfaq, but it'll probably go next if I can help it. It's been about 4 years since I got the flip phone and then started quitting most social media. It's been very freeing.

@j2muw667 11 ай бұрын

Goals! Really all I need is phone. Texting You tube- (or mode to listen at work, to solid catholic talks and info) And music… mostly gregorian chant while I sleep. Read LOTR in my 30’s as a young single mom.. need to reread them.

@headweasel93 11 ай бұрын

I remember learning some Old English in a lunchtime extracurricular class with Dr. Reinhard. Great professor!

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

Does he say "right" every other sentence in class like he did in this interview?

@clelia8885 11 ай бұрын

Very very excited to listen to this one! I have very high expectations as someone whose entire childhood was spent reading/watching/playing LOTR, and later years reading lore and biographies and such (maybe I’ll learn something new from this podcast?).

@lennny2218 11 ай бұрын

How funny, I just got into my yearly Lord of the Rings fase so this episode came out just in time for me 😂 Thanks for the work you do, this will be a good listen.

@entwifey 7 ай бұрын

The moment he said character assassination I immediately knew he was going to talk about Faramir. I agree with his characterization and disappointment how the cinema portrayed him. By far my favorite character.

@eduardogardin879 11 ай бұрын

I met you at Smoke on the Water in Greenville, SC after Mass in St Mary’s Sunday. You have a lovely family. Your oldest daughter obviously loves you very much. I home I did not bother you. It was an honor to meet you and your family. God bless you

@LinaSis9 11 ай бұрын

Talking about how we’d all be gollum reminded me of a sermon I heard about Adam and Eve. Father said, before you blame Adam and Eve know that you’d do the exact same thing. Mic drop

@CatholicMashedPotats-vv8zf 11 ай бұрын

Definitely one of my favorite episodes. I love this stuff!!!! Listening to people talk about Tolkien is so fun, especially if it’s Fradd, Rainhard, or Kreeft. God bless you!!!

@rfg3149 11 ай бұрын

Great interview! Dr. Reinhard was one of my favorite professors when I was a student at Christendom. 100% agree with his assessment of smart phones and Faramir's treatment in Peter Jackson's films. Thank you for having him on Matt! Such a lovely surprise to see a familiar face.

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, you just scored a lifetime fan here, Matt, for your comment on Ireland’s fireplace policy. Of course in California this has been the law for over a decade.

@katherineneville5304 11 ай бұрын

September 24, 1914 - the original Earendil poem was written. He let his TCBS friends read it and G. B. Smith said it was great, but ‘what does it mean?’ To which Tolkien replied, I don’t know, but I shall have to find out.

@artzbinden7172 11 ай бұрын

Matt speaks of weeping after reading TLOR. About 55 minutes into this discussion, and I feel the tears starting just hearing Gandalfs tale. Brilliantly entertaining and illuminating episode. We’ll done!

@clipdown4514 11 ай бұрын

Highly recommend checking out Dr. Corey Olsen’s takes on anything Tolkien. E.g. Tolkien was constantly revising and rethinking characters, stories, concepts throughout his life, sometimes drastically. Galadriel is actually a fascinating example of this.

@Zeero3846 11 ай бұрын

That bit about the photo album being precious made me think a bit. These days we aren't so worried about losing such things in a fire because there's always backups, but certainly, we'd care for these things more if there wasn't. That kind of reminded me of the saying that nothing is sacred anymore, but I think that's in part because we aren't in the habit of making things holy anymore. Everything is a commodity. There's always a backup. There's always another, or perhaps, one could always become what one needs at a later time. If holiness is being set aside for a special purpose, it stands to reason that there isn't a lot of it ... on purpose. Holy things are deliberately rare, and they cannot just change their purpose on a whim. What if we let go of the security of a backup? What if we remembered our previous memories ourselves or explicitly set aside one thing to keep it for us? We'd certainly have to be a lot more intentional and thoughtful in our every action. Could it be more stressful? Probably, but at the same time, we should ask ourselves if the work is worth of our devotion. What things do we make holy?

@j2muw667 11 ай бұрын

Even Amish have begun to have ‘phones’ so they can operate with the regular world. I recently had meat chickens ‘processed’ by an Amish family. They have the phone in a small outhouse like building, and they check messages once or twice a day for scheduling. I didn’t ask if it’s a smart phone or a landline. (If those still exist?) Driving to their place was so beautiful. Little kids driving little pony carts to school. All the kids barefoot! (I prefer to be barefoot) All smiling! Those children have a blessing many children are now missing. Simplicity. The kids were about 5, 6, 7, 8 driving the pony wagons.

@lahair5751 11 ай бұрын

I envy the Amish for the reasons you mentioned, and more. I joke with my husband that in the future, instead of coming to stay with the Amish for a getaway at a bed and breakfast, people will come to stay with a nuclear family to remember old times. Macabre joke, but places like Steubenville will become idyllic for the large catholic families with a mom and dad.

@ThoinFrostaxe 11 ай бұрын

To be fair, this isn’t new. My parents and I would head down to Lancaster to buy horse tack at least once a year (we’re from CT). My dad saw a poster hanging on a wall, the Amish store owner took it down, went into the back room, and made a copy for my day with a big office style copier/fax machine. This would have been in the late 90s. That being said, they still don’t use technology in their family life or their worship, and that’s incredible.

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

I remember being crushed to tears when Sam witnessed the destruction of the Shire.

@laraluna9365 11 ай бұрын

We need Catholics to come together and do a tv series of The Lord of the Rings. Maybe all our homeschool Catholic kids can come together and be the generation who gets it done right. Just have to add that I don’t understand how some people, especially if they’re catholic, not like Tom Bombadil!

@richardrobertson1886 11 ай бұрын

From a storytelling perspective I found Tom to be an unnecessary segue.

@laraluna9365 9 ай бұрын

@@richardrobertson1886 I think at first it seemed that way to me then after becoming Catholic, knowing there are many mysteries to life, I think Tom is perfect fit for a story. Without him they could not have continued on.

@VPortho 6 ай бұрын

@@laraluna9365 Tom Bombadil is perhaps the most fascinating character. He's been there from the very beginning of the world according to what he said to the Hobbits. The One Ring doesn't have an effect on him whatsoever and he has undefined powers. He has knowledge of the outside world. People have speculated that he represents the reader or is even an incarnation of Iluvatar, yet Tolkien has said that neither are true. I think Tolkien deliberately left him to remain a mystery.

@Aelrandir 11 ай бұрын

I’ve been making my way through the books again recently and am almost finished with The Return of the King. Unlike some other stories, with every single reading I do I enjoy it more than the last. I find myself pondering on various themes and deeper meanings, and I continue appreciating the work more and more. I’m thinking of going the Christopher Lee route and making an effort to read the books once a year.

@nicost72 11 ай бұрын

I read LOTR when i was 12, in 6 days. At the end I cried just like you Matt. I still do when I think about it or re-read the last lines, so you're not alone!!! Thanks for this great interview!!! (And Rings of power SUUUCKSS!!!! ;-) )

@RJKYEG 11 ай бұрын

I could go for a kinda Miyazaki style animated LotR kept faithful to the books.

@acuerdox 11 ай бұрын

the reason why the eagles can't take frodo to mt. doom is because sauron has a giant host of ravens that will see them and a bunch of nazguls on flying lizards, and if he knows they're coming then they can just put a bunch of orcs at mt doom so when they touch down they'll be waiting for them.

@jeffdavidson3975 11 ай бұрын

This has been a fantastic conversation! Thanks for providing it. I’m going to reread LOTR again now.

@maddywadsworth4312 11 ай бұрын

I am thoroughly enjoying this. I could listen to people talk about LOTR all day.

@EasrterRising1fan 11 ай бұрын

I like Tom, he provides a relief at the beginning of the novel when they begin out on their journey. He also helps world build. I think he provide a lot of value to the stories.

@ClintZold 11 ай бұрын

Brilliant, Matt. Thanks for putting this one together

@stephencotter538 11 ай бұрын

At 1:55 reminds me of The Magicians and how Fillory, a fictional place/story becomes real, and people from our realm are able to dwell there

@DDickinson458 11 ай бұрын

I'm doing my yearly read of LOTR and I'm really trying to take my time and take everything in as you said.

@Simpleandslowliving 11 ай бұрын

Only saw the films, tried to read "the hobbit" when I was about 12 years old, but never got far. After this episode I can't wait to start giving it a real try!

@cornelia4427 7 ай бұрын

I loved every minute of this interview. And I'd like to recommend two "must reads" about the Lord of the Rings: Craig Bernthal's "Tolkien's Sacramental Vision" and Fleming Rutledge's "The Battle for Middle Earth". These books are really mind blowing.

@Aarongorn 11 ай бұрын

Love this! My daughter’s middle name is Elanor, after the flowers of Lothlorien, seeds of which Sam planted in the Shire.

@johnk5001 11 ай бұрын

@1:57:37 The ring doesn't effect Bombadil. Bombadil makes the ring disappear... That's Chuck Norris level stuff.

@oldervermonter7396 11 ай бұрын

More thought: 3 - Tom Bombadil. Too much focus on what he is, represents, etc. You have to focus his role. He allows a miraculous intercession, without which the quest is over. The Black Riders are just too close. However, the source of the miraculous escape must not be able to continue in the story or the problem is gone. Tom is just a literary trick, unique and necessary, to allow the story to go on.

@mikeconlon3493 11 ай бұрын

If I didn’t have my iPhone I wouldn’t be able to listen to pints with Aquinas.

@sarahloffler 10 ай бұрын

This was by FAR the best episode so far on Pints. Matt, you were wonderfully passionate and sharp, and Ben Reinhard is so eloquent and charming and insightful. I long for discussions like this. Thank you for lighting a lantern for me.

@ozkii95 11 ай бұрын

This is legitimately my favourite video on KZfaq right now.

@oldervermonter7396 11 ай бұрын

Thoughts: 1 - Eagles taking Frodo to the Mountain would not mean Frodo would have been able to destroy the Ring. 2 - Can't read it slowly. Once you are trapped - there goes your sleep!

@jackcoyle3397 6 ай бұрын

Dr Reinhard was my thesis director at Christendom College! Brilliant interview with a brilliant man.

@jennamorganbooks 11 ай бұрын

Please please please more LOTR content!!! 🧝🏻‍♂️🏹💚

@katherinemcmillan5228 11 ай бұрын

I look forward to hearing these interviews - SO WONDERFUL

@abhcoat 11 ай бұрын

Talking about my favorite author and book series. Excellent interview and I love to learn more about Tolkien's Catholicism.

@orangesox915 11 ай бұрын

Great discussion!!!

@erikw3105 11 ай бұрын

On the section about Tom Bombadil (1:57:00), not being a Tolkien scholar, I wonder if Tom could be a higher ordered Maia. Essentially what Sauron could've been if he didn't fall, as Dr Reinhard mentions that Sauron was a higher ordered Maia than Gandalf. Idk if this works in the mythology but I like the idea. Almost like how Dr Reinhard said the wizards are almost taking a vow of povert,y and servitude, I wonder if Tom did something similar and therefore is incredibly powerful but not concerned with *using* that power for his own means

@erikw3105 11 ай бұрын

Aaaaand a little bit later Dr Reinhard acknowledges that's a theory lol I should wait before commenting 😂

@lucyrubach4970 11 ай бұрын

This is the best Pints episode ever made.

@milkeywilkie 11 ай бұрын

definitely either as good as or better than the Shroud of Turin one!

@lucyrubach4970 11 ай бұрын

I loved that one too! @@milkeywilkie

@catkat740 8 ай бұрын

1:19:45 - 1:21:00 Same sort of logic in Orthodoxy. Love this❤️❤️❤️

@thebosky23 11 ай бұрын

1 tidbit I’ve been waiting to hear someone talk about and they were SO CLOSE when discussing cellphones… the Palantir is basically a cell phone that the enemy uses to control and corrupt and sow seeds of despair. Denathor is the prime example. BUT it can also be used for good if one has the strength of character to wield it (Aragorn). Pretty sure I heard somewhere that Tolkien got the inspiration for it from the invention of the television but that could be nonsense

@mafbanks 11 ай бұрын

Had to look it up: According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, a nerd is someone who is “unstylish, unattractive or socially inept person” and one who is devoted to “intellectual or academic pursuits” and some technology, while a geek is someone who is an “enthusiast or expert, especially in a technological field or activity”

@Anyone690 11 ай бұрын

Wow Dr. Reinhard I agree with everything you said except for the fact of Tolkien being a saint. There is no doubt in my mind that him Chesterton and Belloc are among the Valar singing the praises of Illuvator in heaven

@theresamc4578 11 ай бұрын

Saints for our time. God is good.

@AranelEruvyreth 11 ай бұрын

As a hobbyist writer who has been deeply inspired by Tolkien, I find this talk a great resource as I move forward with my own works.

@echails7900 11 ай бұрын

Ol' Tom jolly Tom, Tom bombadillo!💪

@heatherjaracz 8 ай бұрын

I love this episode!!! Good family board games: "Ticket to Ride." There's a first journey version for younger kids (5-9 depending on attention levels). There's the regular one (family favorite--we have played it with 3 generations of the family many times), and there are even European and several other versions once you become a super-fan of this game. Also, we love "Catan Jr." for the younger age group (7-10ish). We haven't got into the regular version of Catan...I wish I would someday, it would be good to learn from a group that already plays it. My kids play "Stratego" amongst themselves (2 player game ages 8+).

@samwestley5631 11 ай бұрын

I know I'm walking into this one, but I liked the Peter Jackson movies and faramir was one of my favorites. I was introduced to the movies before the books though😂

@keepclimbing2015 11 ай бұрын

2:15:56 Shrek is a children's book published in 1990, 11 years before the movie. Jonathan Pageau does an good break down of why Shrek is not a good story.

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

Omg….what a great convo, boys. Btw I LOVE bombadil….I live for this stuff.

@laraluna9365 11 ай бұрын

On a comment on a KZfaq video, a priest said that Tom Bombadil was similar to Melchizedek. Think the video was from The Nerd of the Rings or Men of the West. Wish I could find the comment again because it was interesting. I’ll probably try to find it again now.

@causalaetitiae 11 ай бұрын

I LOVE TOLKIEN SO MUCH!

@MichaelvanderGalien 10 ай бұрын

Great talk! One thing: I think that Joseph Pearce does prove that Tom Bombadil is Adam, the first man before the Fall

@rynoviking 11 ай бұрын

Went in expecting a nice catholic take on LOTR, now looking at flip phones

@justforrfunnn 11 ай бұрын

😂

@Llyrin 11 ай бұрын

And Sam, it turns out, is the real hero of the story. I guess you could say this of every character, because they are all integral, but without Sam, Frodo would have failed.

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

Gollum too! Remember when Gandalf said he may yet have a part to play?

@theresamc4578 11 ай бұрын

Sam tugs at my heartstrings. So long in both book and movie he struggles with understanding, being understood, but is always brave and loyal. Real heroism. Sean Astin was spot on in the movie.

@Llyrin 11 ай бұрын

@@theresamc4578 absolutely!

@gertrudisd1333 11 ай бұрын

I don’t think there would be much difference if Tolkien was Orthodox. There’s actually an Orthodox podcast all about Tolkien called Amon Sul. You should get Richard Rohlin on.

@cristiancaiola9588 11 ай бұрын

We've gotta have Dr. Reinhard and Brandon Vogt on to talk more about Tolkien and the faith.

@Stark3Mad 11 ай бұрын

Love this episode

@pulsar403 11 ай бұрын

The one ring makes you liberal.

@laraluna9365 11 ай бұрын

I will be using this saying 😂

@j2muw667 11 ай бұрын

🤣

@Trivico 11 ай бұрын

😂😂

@esterhudson5104 11 ай бұрын

🤣🤣👏👏

@rivereuphrates8103 11 ай бұрын

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@user-fq8rs7rz3i 11 ай бұрын

I hope he talks about the elf Haldir. He was my favourite elf, and when he died I cried. That was in the film.

@antonmeemana1261 11 ай бұрын

Even for Asians, Tolkien is indispensable. If one has not read him, one is going to miss a lot about the meaning of life.

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

That's because Tolkien's work is relevant to the human condition and universally applicable.

@j2muw667 11 ай бұрын

Matt, your son Peter sounds like he has a beautiful pure innocent soul. And lives in Gods beauty simply! Outside of busy egotistical human relationships…

@fake_name841 11 ай бұрын

I have 2 disagreements: iPhones/smartphones are just a tool that us fallen humans abuse; the ring is inherently evil so they aren't equal. In our world we can make anything a ring and find parallels. If we rid ourselves of evil (or do our best) our phone won't be evil and we can continue to use it. In middle earth the ring is the evil so you have to get rid of both. Also, the elves showing up at Helm's Deep was the worst change in the movies. Jackson missed on characters plenty of times in the movies, but with Helms Deep he misses logic (where did the elves come from), the larger story (can man take responsibility for their own world without the elves), and character development (Aragorn leading men not elves).

@GinnyShilliday 11 ай бұрын

You would enjoy reading Jacques Ellul’s book The Technological Society. It shows how technological tools are NOT neutral, as popular opinion holds.

@jameshayes211 11 ай бұрын

Excellent critique. A smartphone would be more properly analogized to a palantir, a morally neutral tool that is put to a corrupt purpose.

@pizzadohpaz 4 ай бұрын

I don't think including the Elves at Helm's Deep means that Men cannot take responsibility for their own world, nor that Aragorn is diminished. The Battle of Pelennor Fields proves that Men can defend the world on their own, and the Battle at the Black Gate shows Aragorn's character development in leading Men. The point of bringing in the Elves at Helm's Deep is to show that the Peoples of Middle-Earth are banding against evil together, and to show on screen that the Elves were fighting (something which happens "off-screen" in the books). Honestly most of the time something in the movie trilogy is different from the books, the writers had a good reason. That doesn't mean book fanatics have to enjoy it or accept it, but I disagree with Reinhard that Jackson misunderstood Tolkien's vision. He (and Walsh and Boyens) just made different choices in a few areas rather than putting exactly what was on the page. This was a very good choice sometimes (excluding Bombadil and sending Frodo over the edge at Mount Doom both come to mind). No one seems upset by the fact that they skip over 20 years in the beginning either. And they simply couldn't put the Scouring at the end of Return of the King. How can you have a three-hour movie end with the destruction of the main villain, then bring back the villain from film two once everyone gets back home just to have him killed in the same movie? It just doesn't work. But I suppose that one is more opinion-based.