Today, we're going to take a quick look at a long-awaited knife, the Ontario RAT 2 in D2 steel. And we'll make a side note about the Carbon Fiber.
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@nickkazarian33346 жыл бұрын
I love the R2D2 joke!
@Knifeobsessions3576 жыл бұрын
Nick Kaz Now I have the Star Wars theme playing in my head...
@dude284055 жыл бұрын
I want to put white scales on mine with all blue hardware so it looks like R2D2
@johnmccomber83713 жыл бұрын
I got one 1.5 years ago cuz rhe R2D2 reference ability
@TheReligiousLeft6 жыл бұрын
“This R2D2 might be the droid you’ve been looking for” might be the best joke you’ve ever made
@lolynot26 жыл бұрын
You are completely right about the carbon fiber scales. I should have listened.
@Dale_Higgins6 жыл бұрын
Not increasing the price is a cool and interesting move. Seems like a bit of a challenge to all the knife makers who are marketing d2 as a super premium high dollar steel, and I'm really liking that. This is a knife that enough people know, that it could significantly impact what steels come at what price.
@souldude136 жыл бұрын
Joe Merritt think the reason why it didn't increase because there using the older version of D2 not cpm D2
@8BitQuasar6 жыл бұрын
souldude13 I hope you realize that there's almost no knife on the market using cpm-d2. Out of, the over, 10 thousand knives on bladehq there's only 9 using cpm-d2..
@jamesrodgers31326 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK, the D2 ones are around £10 dearer than the AUS-8 equivalents
@ccooper80406 жыл бұрын
Love my RAT2 in AUS8. Sharpening is not an issue. It's what I do every night when watching the idiot box. Why pay more for a slightly better steel? Busy hands are happy hands. Love your reviews Nick.
@georgemorley10294 жыл бұрын
Discovered something more to love about this knife last night. The spine is excellent at removing old compound from a strop by scraping. Cleaned a strop, re-spread it with compound, stropped again and cleaned dirty compound off again, all inside 5 mins. Happy.
@AdamasOldblade6 жыл бұрын
Ironically the first Ontario knife I ever purchased was the Rat 1 in G10/Carbon Fiber D2. I love that damn thing. Seriously. Fun fact. Let my brother borrow it and he lost it... I was angry beyond measure and ordered another one (black coated). Edge Pro'ed it to a mirror polish and held on to it... Weeks later I am at his apartment and find my original knife. So I technically bought two.
@dtester4 жыл бұрын
@Castle Bravo It's like raaaaaain on my wedding day!
@ephemeralnihilist2 жыл бұрын
lol he "lost" it .
@philharms23516 жыл бұрын
Got my R2D2 in coyote brown. Thanks for review Nick
@commandZee6 жыл бұрын
I want my R2D2 in blue.
@chessplayer10004 жыл бұрын
Ok man after a ton of reviews you won me over on this knife. Looking for an edc that wont freak out my coworkers. I also didnt want junk. You have great reviews well done.
@ansdguy16 жыл бұрын
I decided on the green Rat II D2 and blought it on Amazon about an hour ago. Then i decided to buy the CF model instead. AND THEN, I watched this review and cancelled the CF and reordered the green model. Thank you for the infor that saved me not only $10.00, but the regret for a poor choice. Nick, you rock!
@edwardkane19786 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting (and waiting etc.) for my beloved RAT 2 to come out in D2, and I'm not disappointed. Both RATs, 1 and 2, especially in D2, are among my favorite value folders. The AUS8 versions I own have nice polished edges that only take minimal ceramic honing and stropping to maintain.
@James-ke5sx5 жыл бұрын
I just bought one thanks to your info. I was sitting here all day long going through the internet trying to find the best price on this knife and then I saw your video about D2 Steel. I found it at Warriors and wonders here in Canada bought it right away and it's on the way thanks for the info
@devonmacdonald78074 жыл бұрын
i know this is a old video, if you have a d2 knife you can use gun blue to coat the blade to be rust proof. you can cold blue pretty much any metal and it gives a beautiful black ice look
@Eldofarmboy6 жыл бұрын
I have to get my hands on this. I recently got myself a RAT 1 in Aus 8 and am absolutely loving it and plan to get the D2 version. Now I want the RAT 2 in both versions as well
@45ACP_9mm4 жыл бұрын
Currently today February 7th, 2020 the R2 D2 is $37.68 satin with OD green scales and the R2 AUS 8 is $25.07 satin with black scales both at Amazon.
@kimcapone47914 жыл бұрын
Here in canada the rat 2 in aus 8 is 49.99 and the rat 2 in d2 is 69.99. We get so screwed in canada on knife prices. Our knife prices in canada are like doubled.
@Oldcoinsandstuff13 жыл бұрын
I just opened the box on my r2d2. I’ve always had spyderco knives but this may be my new favorite except my thumb slips off the stud most of the time but I’ll get used to it. Spyderco is always sooo easy to open . But this is very light and easier to carry. Maybe my new favorite...thanks for the recommendation nick.
@mt_baldwin6 жыл бұрын
Your original guess was correct, that's essentially a sticker of carbon fiber on g-10. Ganzo has the same two sided c.f. and g-10 scales made by sandwiching a layer of g-10 between two thin layers of c.f. I don't want to argue with people who say it's %100 carbon fiber, it's not, it says it right in the product description.
@NickShabazz6 жыл бұрын
Oh, cute. Well, that explains that. Well, whatever it is, it's crappy.
@pewtersporty6 жыл бұрын
Definitely fake. When you can't see the weave on the grinds you know it's fake.
@nitrorc4life16 жыл бұрын
For price, so what
@silashollis66305 жыл бұрын
My EDC is the Kershaw Leek. I work in an office setting. It's not big, not to small and always comes through in a clinch.
@PerceptionVsReality3336 жыл бұрын
The good thing about these CF handle scales is that the knife can be pulled out from denim pants easily. I have the RAT-1 in D2 & CF.
@jamesbonventre80725 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love when you show other knives in the videos to compare them so you can see other knives someone thinks is very cool without having to search in another video, very good reviewer. Awesome
@Greenmachine3057 ай бұрын
This wonderful little knife is so much a part of my life that I get a little anxious if I realize I'm not carrying it.
@stephaneboudreau10886 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick, been watching your channel for a while, now I'll be pulling the trigger on my first EDC knife with the RD2D2.
@kimcapone47914 жыл бұрын
The r2d2 in canada is 69.99 and the r2 in aus 8 is 49.99. Knife prices are so high in Canada. It's crazy.
@kimcapone47914 жыл бұрын
In canada they want 69.99 for the R2D2 that's like double the price in the usa. We get screwed in canada on knife prices.
@pop48036 жыл бұрын
This is one us budget guys have been waiting on.Thanks Harry
@tylerbeeecher6 жыл бұрын
I've had the CF Rat 1 in D2 for a year or so now, and I personally love the carbon fiber on it! Maybe my standards are too low...
@MotivatedMetalworks5 жыл бұрын
I like the CF too. It's got a nice zigzag pattern off-angle, and I don't find it too slick. I bought the R1D2cf4(4 layers :p) to toss in the toolbox on my tractor for opening seed and fertilizer bags, or stripping wires or whatever. Fertilizer is especially abrasive and works itself into the bag fibers. If I was gutting deer or working at a wharf covered in fish slime all day - I sure as hell wouldn't be using a folder, much less a knife with smooth scales. As for everyone's complaining about D2 being hard to sharpen - I've got a Ka-Bar branded white (very fine grit) stone (not sure if it's an India or Whetstone) and can take an edge from having cut soup cans open to shaving sharp in under 20 passes (dry). If that's too hard, maybe knife sharpening isn't your gig. ;)
@ozyrob16 жыл бұрын
I'll look forward to having this knife in my pocket. great news, it's big brother in D2 is one of my faves.
@tbird4evr6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Shabazz! I’m new to the knife game and I was sold on the Syderco Tenacious as my first EDC . That was until I subbed to your channel. With this great review you have sold me on this Ontario Rat 2 (D2). Keep em coming Sir! ~Tim~🙂
@JG542066 жыл бұрын
“There may well be some carbon in here... and it may be fiberous...” lol
@themawsjawz_94916 жыл бұрын
Just watched the proper review. And now I'm here. I like it when I'm having trouble keeping up with new uploads. I'm picking up two of these soon once I find the budget.
@davidrogers1826 жыл бұрын
I bought two of the Ontario rat 1 n I love the knife! Excellent Review n I think spot on , concise objective review on your part. Thank you for not playing stupid music or wasting time. I will become new subscriber. Dr Dave
@danielsmit35243 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I'm watching old Rat reviews since I'm considering ordering one in D2. Already have the Aus8. (Talking about the Rat1) I just had a thought....don't you think if they added a flipper at the bottom end of the 'choil-ish' area it would be great. To me the Rat has one of the best detents (for my preference.) I just think if they added a flipper it would turn this from one of the best budget knives to THE BEST. I know to some it may already be. That would give you so many opening options. And what I like about flippers, especially with a longer type flipper is that it takes away any fear I have about the liner lock. If you were to exert alot of forward pressure on a flipper knife and it failed, the flipper would close on your finger instead of the edge. This is hypothetical, but I believe a flipper might just prevent your finger from being cut badly.
@JediJunkie2476 жыл бұрын
I got mine today, plain black handle. I was flicking it open all afternoon. Great effortless action.
@cambarr6933 Жыл бұрын
I got an R2D2 in November and upgraded to Flytanium scales in December. I love this thing.
@yogililly16 жыл бұрын
BladeHQ and Knife Center both charge $10 more ($37.95) for D2 over the AUS8 ($27.95) for same models. This is basically same cost difference on Rat1 versions of D2 and Aux8 at both sites.
@NickShabazz6 жыл бұрын
Oh. Well, that's ugly.
@Joe-jj3oh5 жыл бұрын
Well then buy it off SMKW. I mean you don’t have to stay loyal to ONE website am I right.
@poisonousnut6 жыл бұрын
my CF R2D2 showed up damaged on one side of the scales. apparently most of these coming from Ontario have this issue. returned mine and awaiting a new one with plastic scales. love this knife tho!
@OLMmedic6 жыл бұрын
I know where my next 40 bucks is going. Awesome. Nice review Tricky Nicky.
@wvhunter19684 ай бұрын
I'm a recent budget knife afficionado. The RAT2 was hyped on several youtube channels as the best thing since sliced bread. At the best, was a let down.i cushion that by saying I probably woulda loved the knife if I didn't have some others I really love. It has good steel and overall construction, but thats where it ends for me. It'll end up in my car as a beater. I like the look, the thinness and construction but it is far from a one hand intuitive knife like my other flippers that I thoroughly enjoy. This one takes some finess and smaller hand apparently. The clip is short and SUPER stiff. I got frustrated taking it out and putting in my pocket it was so tight. I was doing a project and basically just kept in fully in my pocket til my next use. It feels like itll wear out the jean material as well if i used this one a lot. For a budget friendly knife I'll buy other models of the Honeybadger or anything by Ganzo. The Ganzo Firebird FH91AND 41 in D2 with amazing flip action is $25 to $30 currently!!! Both Cheaper and more fun than this.
@JohnRSrlie5 жыл бұрын
I have the R2D2 in Green and D2 steel ofc, its my EDC #1, i simply love the size, handling and feel of this cheap knife. And I do have a few other knifes, even much moore expencive ones like Benchmade 940. The Griptillian and The Freek This little knife is awesome, I carry him every day.
@adamrandall4760 Жыл бұрын
Took mine apart and did a little sanding on the scales. It made a HUGE difference. I recommend to try it. I just hit it with a 600 grit, took the gloss off. Try it.
@cloudcleaver236 жыл бұрын
Dammit, Nick, you just had to point out that the name is now a Star Wars reference. Now I want one more than I already did.
@djp2796 жыл бұрын
You confused the hell out of me. I've wanted a R2-D2 for as long as there was a R1D2, never able to find it as it didn't exist, I started this thinking it was an R1D2 but then saw this was posted 24hr ago and realized my prayers were answered.
@muffledstatue26 жыл бұрын
I have many more expensive Spyderco knives but I still think that my old aus 8 rat 2 may be my favorite little knife ever. I've had the d2 in my next shopping cart for a week now. Great video
@joshuanicolai47762 жыл бұрын
I love that he called it the r2-D2
@rammbostein4 жыл бұрын
I heard R2D2 and i subscribed, i really enjoy your enthusiastic voice. Looks like i gotta go buy me a droid now lol
@dustinh4175 Жыл бұрын
Onatario is a great company for not being greedy and making a great affordable knife for the middleclass outdoorsman. I would think they'll make up for loss with huge sales numbers. A rat 1 with a serrated d2 blade with g10 scales and ball bearings would be perfect.
@SliceyDicey6 жыл бұрын
I got one in carbon and one in coyote brown plastic. I do prefer "using" the plastic, but the carbon looks better, IMHO so I carry it when I don't expect to use it too hard. Maybe I'm just a sucker for any carbon fiber whatsoever.
@michaelsantana57814 жыл бұрын
Talon Grips work great for adding grip to the slippery plastic scales
@timchan86306 жыл бұрын
The carbon fiber could still be a laminate. Ganzo also has carbon fiber laminates on both side of the scale. They apparently do this so that they can save costs by only having to cut out one orientation/design for both sides.
@gerardopietrantoni64526 жыл бұрын
In Blade HQ it specifies it’s CF/G-10. I ordered one with the black blade and CF/G10 scales. Hasn’t arrived yet. We’ll see how it turns out. Wanted something different. Good review as always Nick.
@poisonousnut6 жыл бұрын
Gerardo Pietrantoni i ordered the same one. scales on the clip side came damaged. returned for a new one so make sure u check
@gerardopietrantoni64526 жыл бұрын
poisonousnut Thanks! I’ll check it out when it arrives.
@MatthewW7135 жыл бұрын
You saved me a few bucks for sticking with the nylon. Thanks!
@AverageDE6 жыл бұрын
It's g10 with a carbon fiber sticker on each side so they can do the initial cut on the handles in the same direction.
@jdschulz16 жыл бұрын
Give the scales a light sanding with a high grit paper and you'll get closer to the feel of that zt.
@dilley_esq6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I’ve been holding off on the RAT2, but now that the D2 model is out....I think now is the time to jump.
@ncode03 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up the R2D2 due to the company closing down. I got the last one in the store. It's a very good knife that deserves to be in the collection. Sad about OKC
@void19844 жыл бұрын
You can buy D2 version with FRN from factory. It's a pity you haven't mentioned if the black blade coating is any good.
@milesv53522 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reviews. Are there any high and clones of this knife made? (Under $200) I have this knife and its great, just wish it was more premium. The mini bugout is too small.
@rebdomine16 жыл бұрын
Great news, and great review. One thing that I was hoping you would do was a weight comparison between the carbon D2 and plastic Aus8. Weight would be the only mildly compelling reason to get the carbon. If it's not too much trouble for you, do you think you could bust out the scales for me? Love your work, especially your focus on the value end of the spectrum.
@winchestermodel70446 жыл бұрын
rebdomine1 the CF model actually weighs about .5 ounces more than the GFN model. LUV THEM KNIVES has a video where he weighed both.
@danielbrinson70226 жыл бұрын
I switched the handle scale on my rat 2 d2 to the plastic scales because the carbon fiber scales are too smooth for my liking
@brycewalts24446 жыл бұрын
It’s a peel ply CF like spyderco or ganzo most of it is g-10. Great vid love that you call yourself out
@SeanLiu8886 жыл бұрын
Peel ply CF and CF laminate are different things
@deanw06546 жыл бұрын
R2D2!!! Now I have to buy one!!!
@bradleyh80446 жыл бұрын
Now I need an R2D2 to go with the Sheaffer R2D2-themed fountain pen I just picked up...
@daveglarner21386 жыл бұрын
While they tend to look quite vanilla, these knives are just freakishly wonderful. I'm collecting all of the colors to satisfy my nerdism and unwavering love for them, but the regular Joe Shmoe black one is the one I beat up. I look at it like you look at the delica. Love other stuff. Get other stuff. Well aware that there is better stuff, but yet something in us needs to make sure that we never forget what truly works, and what deserves to be respected for it. Is that how you spell "Shmoe"? I feel like a C should be in there.
@ManS1ayr6 жыл бұрын
hey nick you could sand down the carbon a bit to give it a mat finish
@blitzbbffl6 жыл бұрын
Long time coming, and Ontario has kind of thrown the gauntlet down by not raising the price. I'd like to add that disassembling a Rat 2 - reveals an impressive build quality, especially in a $32 knife.
@zengru8096 жыл бұрын
I took apart my aus-8 rat 1 to clean it and was astonished by the build quality, ignoring of course the fact that the scales are crappy plastic instead of the preferable g10. everything is dirt simple and solid, and the full liners are perfect. if they make a D2 RAT 2 with black G10 scales I'd pay 50 bucks for it
@blitzbbffl6 жыл бұрын
Zengru I'm with you on that!
@grimflipz6 жыл бұрын
Finally... Thanks Nick...!!! Love your reviews...
@curtisfox49175 жыл бұрын
I bought the D2 Carbon Fiber Rat 2 and it came out of the box kind of stiff.and the liner lock is tight as well..blade is perfectly centered, and it came with the pocket clip in the tip down position.changing to the tip up now...what can I do to loosen up the action?
@neroknives18286 жыл бұрын
Aus8 is also much more responsive to a strop then D2. So u might actually need to go to stones a little more then aus8. Unless your really hard on the edge and chip it or roll it.
@RonBrumleve6 жыл бұрын
In the pic of the two Rat 2s, it looks like the Aus 8 one has a sharpening choil, but the D2 one has none or a smaller one.
@andysteele40566 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, is the handle thickness the same between the two handle scale options? The hole around the pivot on the plastic handle looks deeper in some shots.
@MrSlickRyder6 жыл бұрын
I shall use your word, Mr. Shabazz " Friggin Hallelujah!!!!"
@GOxHAM5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Nick, I bought the carbon fiber for my brother since he likes carbon fiber. He liked it because he's not super into knives. But Nick is correct, it straight up looks like a sticker, honestly, I've seen actual carbon fiber stickers that look more like carbon fiber than these handle scales. Ironically though, it actually is real carbon fiber xD.
@stephenbarone40536 жыл бұрын
Yes not the best cf, but for the price you shouldn't expect zt quality cf. I also think it makes the knife feel more substantial. Where as the frn on the cutjack feels cheap.
@Aaron-lx3gz4 жыл бұрын
"Whoa, freeze frame!" LOL. Nick for President.
@ariesfromhell16 жыл бұрын
sure wish theyed make the Joe Pardue series in a D2. Id buy em in a heartbeat
@Ondal16 жыл бұрын
Camera might be cheating, but did the D2 get a slight recurve?
@andyrichardson61886 жыл бұрын
Hoping this puts some pressure on companies like CRKT and Kershaw to start upgrading their steel.
@WalterW6 жыл бұрын
If there is no deal with Disney so there is an R2-D2 themed Rat 2 in D2 steel, Ontario is missing a huge opportunity.
@GustavoHernandez16 жыл бұрын
Walter W Or a custom scale maker
@WalterW6 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Hernandez yep
@grumpyoldwizard4 жыл бұрын
The carbon fiber scales are slippery too. I wish I had the original handles.
@Calvictus3606 жыл бұрын
Maybe its just me but i do a lot of physical labor in the sun at work and i find more often than not im sweating through my pocket. So i think i'll stick with AUS-8 for now. I carried a D2 blade once and it had light rust after the 1st week.
@HotBrass-Lead5 жыл бұрын
Wipe it down once a week ?
@robertharper50876 жыл бұрын
"The droid you've been looking for"......well played Sir!!!!
@76ajc4 жыл бұрын
You are crazy as hell, sir... many thanks for that. I love my R2D2 in green. I carry them shits everyday
@bobbybridges44086 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick I love your reviews and wish I had seen this one sooner. Last night I ordered mine with the carbon fiber. My bad
@HarveySpectre19 ай бұрын
Nick, I'm really can't decide between Rat 2 or Civivi Elementum 2, any advice ? thanks
@probablywatches7 ай бұрын
Civivi E2 just because of the fidget feature
@franksworld99223 жыл бұрын
R2d2. I like that well done good sir 👏.
@janbernad47294 жыл бұрын
Just one question about the D2 steel: Is it possible to sharpen it using regular whetstones? Ive heard some people say that there are some troubles with the vanadium particles in the steel, which make the edge chip once it gets really fine. Basically you cant get it hair popping without some special (most likely diamond) whetstones, which are hard enough to cut through those particles instead of chipping them out of the steel matrix (thats at least how i understood). Since Im considering getting one of those knives, Im deciding between the AUS 8 and D2. For most of my sharpening I use some silicon carbide whetstone (120 and 400 grit), Naniwa combination waterstone 1000/3000 (aluminium oxide and white aluminium oxide) and green polishing compound (probably also aluminium oxide, not sure) on a leather strop. Is it possible with this setup to get the D2 blade hair shaving? Thx for any answers in advance.
@jimmystyles6704 жыл бұрын
I know I'm a bit late, but from my experience I've never had that happen, if I remember correctly that used to happen with older knives with d2 because of heat treatment issues. I sharpen using a diamond plate and finish on a black Arkansas stone and it's never caused me issue even when sharpening s35vn, but with harder steel I don't know.
@joaquinmartinezjr8134 жыл бұрын
At what angle do I sharpen this knife?
@MH-zu3kg6 жыл бұрын
Personally I would take some sand paper and try and rough up the surface of that carbon fiber. Might improve it, definitely make it less shiny.
@albaker26676 жыл бұрын
Some White Person I
@valkyriesurvives51096 жыл бұрын
Some White Person or polish it
@bengalvin716 жыл бұрын
Rat2 with custom micarta scales with D2 me like a lot
@aray96286 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks Nick... 👊👍✌
@mountainhobo6 жыл бұрын
And.... ordered. Olive drab. Nick, you need to make another warning video.
@SkyBridgeRE6 жыл бұрын
mountainhobo that was a stellar and extremely on point video!
@austinhart20426 жыл бұрын
I think you should totally do a vs on the d2 cutback vs d2 rat2
@poisonousnut6 жыл бұрын
are we getting a disassembly video on the D2 version??
@barberboyz2 жыл бұрын
hello, what and the sharpening angle of the ontario rat 2 with the d2 steel?
@petergalione97046 жыл бұрын
I got the carbon fiber, but I don’t mind it for the price. It definitely is is a little cheesy. Maybe I can upgrade to some timascus.
@holdernewtshesrearin54714 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE my RAT-1 D2! Out of all my knives, many of them very high end, my R1-D2 is one of the hardest knives to leave at home. It finds its way into my pocket more often than not even when i have new, very nice knives to carry. Along with my go-to Spyderco manix-2 CPM S30V, the RAT-1 D2 goes much more than it stays. Its a fantastic knife and D2 elevates it to the entry level super steel class. Cant go wrong with that!
@shipmate35772 жыл бұрын
AUS8 Rat II should be called the "Swamp RAT" since it's does better around water.
@Josh-mj9yp6 жыл бұрын
In my pocket right now!
@sanghyunkim98646 жыл бұрын
Does this stay in your permanent collection and get carried regularly?
@igregmart5 жыл бұрын
I prefer easy to sharpen, so AUS 8 for me.
@bigsean24734 жыл бұрын
the d2 on the rats is not that good. the aus8 out performs it. and really how long does it take to ht your blade on the stone or strop 5-6 times and be back good?
@skyekingdom03 жыл бұрын
got this as my first knife, how does he flick it open so fast?