I'm gonna go try HoN now. We shall honor it in its final times

*phantom assassin*

Phoenix

Electrician, Dampeer, and Deadwood, there are well design and my favorite back when I'm still playing HoN.

Cover Midas

Man that hits me in the feels.

>never have felt as good That basically sums up why I am addicted to HoN, it literally does feel good playing it.

google project kongor you can still play

I never played it but I heared the community was hardcore toxic ...even more than in LoL

Myrmidon, Ravenor, Bushwack, electrician, maliken, etc

Augagaagahagahgaha

Oh no satire

No arguments for you there

i miss my breaky cpk announcer

BIIIIIITCH SLAPPED

In what way did Maliken get greedy? So long ago, I can't remember anything greedy about HoN

@@snapphanen guess you didn't remember the terrible new heroes release scheme of S2, the greedy focus more on making shitty avatars than fixing the game, and that was just 2 of the things

@@snapphanen They would release heroes two weeks ahead of "public release" and players could buy early access for real money. Among other very slimy practices of theirs. Maliken also refused to give IceFrog any creative control over HoN, which is why he was so easily poached by Valve who was willing to put him in charge of the DotA Team. You know, being essentially the latest father of DotA and all.

@@snapphanen I don't know if you can recall, but remember when Hon's beta phase was extremely huge? Then they decided to make the game pay to play for 30$? Yeah, league capitalized on that and DotA came after. Also, the last 2 comments before me are a few of other things that made Maliken so shitty HoN was just so far ahead of its time. I swear, it's still my biggest gaming heartbreak of all time

He also charged 20 dollars to get an account instead of making it free like league of legends

I play hon now Project kongor

There was rumour that ice frog will include some of HoN heroes into dota 2 as sign of honour

There are actually unused voice lines referring to a future puppet master-like hero, though these have existed for a few years now kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qax7fNJzvNzcYac.html

@@ZurinArctus0 it would make me forgive them for this disgusting delay between patches but that is just being hopeful.

There is a Puppet Master in the ingame file of dota2.

@@yutuvefan4ever yes, hoodwink talks a lot about the pupper master in particular. She calls it durana

I wish those leaks are true!👍

How I wish. There are some HoN heroes that have sick mechanics I'd really love to see HoN's MK in dota

Dota at least needs to steal some concepts at the very least. Like myrmidon stun or puppets root tether.

Shadowblade is a hero I'd like to see in dota as well. Given how interesting his skills are.

But I heard there is some hon heroes that ported to aov too

I've had my friends yell at me so many times for pushing an enemy hero away from their autos. Also is one of the few heroes, that for some reason I remember the lore of. Flux was basically a legionnaire that got trapped in a cave escaping the hellbourne and pretty much Tony Starked himself out of it. There was also another guy with him called Titus, but I think he didn't make it. So Flux is basically HoN's Iron man. And considering he does have an Ironman alt avatar, it just fits.

Troll heroes🤣

I want him in dota so badly

It's faster than Dota 2 due to quicker turn rates

The history of hon in 1 comment. It was a holding place for dota 1 players

@@forte609 yeah that turn rate feel so good

Yeah i wasted hundreds of hours in HON at its peak during like 2012-2013. Love the game so much

Id have to disagree with Dota 2 but everyone has their taste i guess

Talk about going full circle if that was too happend tho

There are some unused hero responses referencing puppeteer, so who knows 🤔🤔🤔

Yo for real? Damn

@@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 Yeah, no idea if it's the same hero or just a code name. Other heroes who have been released had in-progress names and showed up in the files before their release. Puppet Master has been around in the files for a couple years now.

Empath is my fave support hero. Really works well with predator.

One more detail about madman, his barrel roll disjoints spells and makes him untargetable, so timing it correctly plus the use of a Shrunken head would provide him the protection he needed.

Servers wouldn't go longer than 1:45mins from memory.

@@TwistaCSS they would

i think fayde just way too similar too nyx

Well the company still has the servers and they are the ones shutting down

Will it still be possible to play the game in custom lobbies somehow? Maybe if you could have community run servers, the game would stay alive...

Gunblade is cool

Could you make a video covering all HON related stuff like new heroes and items in dedication to the server shutting down?

It was basically a joke to say "im a deadwood main", but i loved playing that dude

13 years for an indie online game isnt too bad :/

HoN also allows DPS mages/magic types due to 1 item. They also had the sange, yasha and Kaya before Dota 2 added it. Honestly they have a lot of great hero designs that I would to see on Dota 2.

@@forte609 you mean the harkon's blade? That was an awesome item that would really be great if it is in dota.

I was wondering about that as he explained the skills. Never played HoN, but that seemed like the logical intended use of PM's kit

Great selection but I'd also include pandamonium, engineer and bombadier

Played LoL a lot with my friends from 2011-2015, but also quit PC gaming forever, but now I've been more than happy that I can play a superior version of my favorite game in mobile! League of Legends: Wild Rift. It's everything I wish LoL PC was. Been playing it since day 1. I now only play mobile games, like 5 games 😊

indeed, midas is so agressive and different strg hero

Im actually suprised LoL doesnt have its own version of Aghs. Its just a conceptually fun item, paticularly since both Dota and Hon mostly moved away from just making them stat upgrades.

league has had a null stone equivalent for basically all of its life in banshee's veil, and had the nome's wisdom effect for quite a while on catalyst of the aeons and the items it built into with the added bonus of generating mana from damage taken. even with catalyst gone after the major item rework last season, the nome's effect can still be found on the current iteration of seraph's embrace as far as the staff and scepter go, i think i recall a rioter outright saying long ago that it was one of the aspects of dota they were heavily against including. it was something along the lines of how that sort of thing can become a balance nightmare, as the effect can easily end up being basically irrelevant for the amount of gold put into it, or basically essential for the character - at which point, you're basically locking them out of a core part of their kit until they give up a large chunk of gold and an item slot. plus there was the factor that at the time, a lot of upgrades were really just bonuses to damage or cooldown, so the ability power and cdr stats were effectively designed to be a replacement for the concept anyway that said, you could probably consider earlier versions of viktor's hex core to be league's exploration of the concept, anyway. he used to start with a item that basically just gave him some extra base stats and couldn't be removed, but could be upgraded to improve those stats and add an extra effect to one of his abilities. the first version had a different upgraded hex core for each basic ability that had their individual stat lines, while a later rework changed it to a linear upgrade tree where each upgrade gave him more ability power and mana plus a special "evolution" point that could be used to upgrade any ability, with the maxed out hex core resulting in all of his abilities being upgraded. nowadays the whole item aspect has been removed, with the evolution points instead being earned by farming and getting kills which really fits league's whole approach to the concept more, really. the whole evolution point system originated with another champion, kha'zix, who got 'em simply by ranking up his ultimate. similar mechanics have popped up from time to time. some like rengar's bonetooth necklace ( which, at one point in time, was in fact another champion-specific item, but you had to buy it and could sell it later ... both for a small amount of gold ) have been streamlined to stuff like a simple damage boost from killing unique enemies, but the earliest version stacked on kills and lost stacks on deaths, and certain stack thresholds granted bonuses to his abilities. others like kai'sa are still part of the game today, where each of her basic abilities get upgraded after she reaches certain stat thresholds and this even forms the basis for her alternative builds so, yeah. in a sense, all three of these things are things league already has, though it takes a _very_ different philosophical approach to what's perhaps the most iconic one

His E and R looks like Ursa

where can i read info about these case ?

Salomon is in dota basically. Half his kit is just alchemist really.