Yup. I was just thinking earlier today that "at least we have Peyton Manning's rookie season to point to as proof that Young did slightly better with less to work with." I hate this. This is The Channel that got me interested in the NFL again with a video Clearly Distinguishing Between play-calling & player talent. & the past few months they have reversed this. Like right here saying Young misses his mark on a play. You can't just shut off the part of your brain that has to occupy itself with the o-line missing pass rushers & make plays as if this is never a problem. It's the reactive part of your brain. It _looks FOR_ consistency on a subconscious level & when it starts looking for it if it doesn't _find it,_ that part of the brain *looks **_FOR it_** all the harder.* In fact, _not having_ to watch out for a defender now _upsets_ the expectation & will throw off his game more. Hopefully he can reset this season. New circumstances may mean he stops looking for it. But it's also possible he _doesn't_ reset or doesn't right away. They upgraded their o-line, not overhauled it.

@@choosecarefully408 You’re not saying Peyton had a worse rookie year than Bryce ate you?

@@chicagodude8888 Nnnooooo, only an insane person would say 26 INTs was worse than 10. Or are we doing that cherry-picking thing where we pretend their circumstances were 100% equal & therefore Bryce should have had the high TD count with this receiving corps, o-line & coaching?

It’s 100% true as one of the worst seasons from a #1 overall draft pick. The LSU dude who went to the raiders before Calvin Johnson is the only one who’s been worse in the past 25 years. Pretty rare for a team to draft a QB #1 and finish last.

​@choosecarefully408 Lol if you think Manning had a worse Rookie season than Young you must be mentally ill. Manning threw for 3700 yards and 26 TDs at a time where offenses weren't nearly as favored when it came to the rules. There Rookie seasons aren't even in the same realm.

It isn’t even remotely close to being the worst of all time even when looking at other Top 3 picked QBs. Alex Smith had a TD/INT ratio of 1/11 and Ryan Leaf had a slightly worse 2/15

more like the worst rookie situation in history lmao, bro was the only one on the offensive side of the ball

Hes has bro

Bad bro

Bryce Young is trash 🗑 🚮 gtfoh 😅😂

Tepper gonna Tepper. He hires his coaches with the intention of talking down to them the following Monday/Tuesday morning regardless of results. He hired Matt Rhule cuz he got hoodwinked with all the 'analytical' shit he sold him on. Hired Frank Reich because on the safe assumption that he's a 'good head coach and leader' which has not been the story for him in recent years. And since no proven vet coach with a rep wants to deal with Tepper's wack ass, he got a kid in Canales to take interview and offer the job.

he still was awful dude you can be a bad qb in a bad situation I don’t know why people don’t realize this and have to make excuses for everyone

2.new proven guards. 2.wr 1.TE 1.RB Bryce should have a huge leap this year

​@@patek9789just watch the tape lil bro

​@@patek9789nobody is making excuses for Bryce he does have some problems that are fixable, but the Panthers were genuinely a dumpster fire top to bottom

It wasn’t a problem when he has Philips Rivers and most importantly Andrew Luck 💯but with average QBs like Carson Wentz, Jacoby Brissett and ofc Bryce young they can’t elavate wants around him 💯If Frank Reich still has a healthy Andrew Luck at his disposal he problem would’ve had a Super Bowl in Indy rn they was on there way

Do you think that perhaps Reich is just an OC, and not a head coach?

@@co81385 To a degree. I think it worked in Philadelphia with Reich play calling but Pederson was probably the one to pump the players up emotionally, make strategic changes when necessary, keep Reich in check with the play calling. However, seeing Reich calling plays here in Indy, I even doubt his play calling ability now. Plus, he really lost the locker room and the players trust near the end there. Hard to come back from that. Not sure why he fell off a cliff in such ways, but, again, nice guy a Christian pastor I believe. Maybe he should be doing that.

I'm an Eagles fan, so I am familiar with Reich (and forever grateful for 2017). Could it be that his scheme can get "figured out", and that, once it does, things get ugly?

Reich wanted Stroud tho David Tepper is a horrible owner

The couple games I watched, he looked awful. His arm strength and accuracy were embarrassing at times

He does not have elite talent. Watched him at bama for two straight years..his arm strength is only good when his feet is set, and his footwork is backyard football style, so he cannot even maximize the bit of arm strength he has. If hes pressured, his arm strength is terrible. He can't read a blitz to save his life. He's not athletic enough to be an out of the pocket QB. He's just not that good.

He's stinks, that's a problem in my opinion.

Certainly doesn't help when he was the best player on offense. Running game wasn't working, receivers can't separate even tho some folks would prop up old ass Adam Thielen's numbers, O-line wasn't great and his passing game was ripped from the page of some 90s playbook. Also didn't help the defense sustained some bad injuries to key players so when they give up points, Bryce was in no position to win a shoot out.

No, we can't.

Y’all welcome 🤦🏿

Tepper always gets the spotlight on him because he thinks he wants people to believe he can make football decisions better than the guys he hires. Bears fans should never live it down that he was instrumental for revamping their franchise in 2024. It got as bad as the Nagy/Pace regime and Poles looked like his rebuild plans would take a lil longer while evaluating Fields for long term. But Tepper wanted his young QB for a steep price and followed with 'Say Less', did the trade and flew out DJ Moore as well. Real man of genius indeed.

@@t4d0W All against the better judgment of Frank Reich who had Stroud as his QB1, who he later fired thanks to Reich underachieving with the team Tepper assembled against the better judgement of his head coach and front office. I hope for the Bears sake he’s our next Jordan. Lol

While I understand dumping on a franchise to hype up yours I wouldn't be so quick to throw stones and take a victory lap Chicago. You are still the team that passed on Mahomes and are STILL paying the price for that. If Caleb Williams turns out to be a bust after all the hype than the Panthers trade and DJ Moore won't matter. I mean your still the same team that can't develop quarterbacks and you let a REBUILDING packers team sweep you. Good luck "taking the north" from the lions and Packers.

@@19EHF Wow. That was the most aggressive passive aggressive thing I’ve ever read. I think you need to familiarize yourself with the word “potentially”, as in it’s possible David Tepper could become an iconic sports figure. That’s a lot different than labeling him that before anything had happened. You can make the case 9 teams are still paying the price for passing on Mahomes. I’m not dumping on the Panthers anymore than I’d be dumping on the Broncos and Browns for giving away a kings ransom for Watson and Russell. I’m pointing out an observable fact, no matter if it works out or not. Bears don’t develop quarterbacks because they have a history of drafting bad ones. You can’t turn weeds into roses. The little snarky comment about the Packers you threw in at the end was weird when the spirit of my post was the stupidity of Tepper. Someone every Panthers fan in existence would agree with.

One goes out another comes in

Potential? He just hasn't had the time Snyder had to get a laundry list of mistakes, scandals, abuses, etc.

Did you watch the video? CJ would’ve sucked too in this situation.

So glad the Texans were able to draft Stroud!! 😎

He got shut out the final two games of the season. 😂

Yeah man, Reich built this broke system for a QB that’s a couple inches taller. Would’ve worked great then. The Oline would have been better too is Bryce was 6’3”

@@da0908 No my point is it didn’t AT ALL play into Bryce’s strengths which is slants and play fakes.. It was set for a taller QB to launch it if anyone’s open..

@@ktdagoat1289 so help me understand, Reich designed an offense centered around “launching it if anybody gets open”, but that only works if the QB is 6’3”?

@@da0908 Ima say it again brother.. It was built for CJs strengths (gunslinger/runner) not Bryce’s strengths (playmaker/precision).. For example Russell Wilson thrived as one of the elite QBs under Pete’s reign.. In Denver we seen him not even do bad stats wise, but he was called bad cause the system he was in didn’t play to HIS strengths it’s set for a more Drew Drees (Precision/High Usage) QB.. That’s why I’ll bet Bo Nix will look FANTASTIC in that system and even be called elite.. But if the system changes he’ll be called a bum.. Like Bryce or Russ when in bad systems..

You can be predictable when you have a stellar OL and WRs that can win

@@BigCook06 Yes, my point exactly.

I would say the coaches was more of the problem. Chubba is a good RB. One of the only bright spots. The WRs weren’t great but they were good enough to be better than we were. They ran more plays with Dalton started and the offense was somewhat successful. The Coaches changed the OLine scheme and it was a terrible fit for the players we had.

@@SomajDaGoat Panthers WRs group shared the same problems with the Pats WR group on offense: defenses will stick man defense on pass downs against Bryce all day because none of his receivers are threats to separate and make plays. Running the ball could help alleviate that but you need to be very efficient with it with the threat to rip 10~20 yrd run gains along the lines of the Lions who obviously have one of the top O-line groups in the league. Coaching was a problem but the roster on the offense didn't make things any easier.

Excuses, excuses

You just titled a video "The Panthers run ONE play on repeat." And you're asking if it's the QB or a product of the team's struggles? 🧐

How could you ask this question when you clearly outlined issues out of Bryce’s control. The name of the video shows how little competence the coaching had this past year

They were relatively equal in college. Stroud has a stronger arm, but Bryce was a better processor and threw with better anticipation.

Recency bias is crazy lmao

​​@@walter9243no, he literally was BELOW AVERAGE at processing. Y'all only say this because he's short. He literally failed to beat one of the easiest blitzes to beat time and time again. In his sophomore season, Texas A&M started to put all of the front on the line of scrimmage and left the middle of the field wide open. They would put two linebackers, or one linebacker and a slot back on the same edge. Both came in hot, nobody in the middle of the field, and he never found the open guy, because he can't see over the line. Multiple teams employed this same tactic, and he never adjusted. He never was on schedule. He never could hit timing throws. He's not a processor, quick decision making, type QB

TBF Stroud would struggle as well with the Panthers receiver group. Stroud did great work but his receiver group had tools to separate. He could grip and rip mid field laser shots to 6'4" Nico Collins or when Tank Dell could get an inch of breathing room with his speed. Where Stroud really showed off was when the Texans didn't have their O-line healthy for the first 7 weeks and he had to do a lot more to get the passes out.

Stroud wouldn’t have done any better with Bryce’s roster don’t kid yourself.

Wrong

ehh, Right

He actually did some of his best work over the middle.

You guys are gonna learn to stop dissing Kyler

That is literally the opposite of the problem he has.

The Panthers would not have been in position to take Caleb had they not given up so many assets for Young so I wouldn’t worry about it

You want a better scenario? Young gets injured, the Panthers trade for Fields in desperation, Fields out-does Caleb. It's not like he couldn't. *This channel **_USED_* to be able to distinguish between on-field talent, play-calling & end results. Now it seems they pick narratives then cherry-pick plays to support those. They got it right with Greg Roman in Baltimore. But how tf does a channel that does analysis miss this fact; Fields _ALWAYS_ hits his targets. Always. When you eliminate being backed up against your own end zone & you'd either have to throw the ball 10 yards in the air or risk throwing it right into the hands of a defender because the play-callers called for all the receivers to go 6 yards or less out (see, play-calling causes those), players not running their routes or falling down, even Aaron Rodgers misses his targets more than Fields. He kept hitting Mooney & Claypool in the hands for incompletions & INTs. He made the Bears the #1 offense 3 weeks straight *BEFORE* they acquired D.J. Moore then the Bears cancelled all those plays that did this. We have video footage of o-line plays where the instructions seem to have been "run away from from or ignore pass rushers." & again,l same problem with Young, how do you revert your brain to normal when you never know when your o-line effed up? To me, it's obvious they wanted to sabotage him to have an excuse to draft Caleb. So him getting the chance *&* resurrecting would be great. Doing it on the Panthers would drive home exactly how crappy the Bears' _HC & GM were towards him_ & that they made a Huge Mistake.

@@choosecarefully408 would be hilarious, lot gonna lie

@@LaborratteHH Yeah. I'll be happier if he gets a chance on a team whose starting QB no one would mind Fields replacing nor worry that they got injured. So, the Browns.

Yeah I saw it too he was practically Prime Randy Moss.

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