Fellow Pentecostal here joining you in shouting “NO MORE!” Thanks for this doing this video and standing firm in the TRUE word of God!
@ericwithers27948 ай бұрын
As a reformed Baptist, we would disagree about much, but I am very thankful for this take. A desire to guard the integrity of God's Word and let it speak for itself...may your tribe increase!
@caseybyrd76718 ай бұрын
Even Joseph Smith and Muhammad was told and visit by a angels that corrupt scripture. I enjoy watching your videos. I also believe in the charismatic movement I was apart of a Non-Denominational church and the Assemblies of God. I wouldn't suggest this book to anybody from the reviews I heard about it as a inspired "word of god". I appreciate the review it needed to always be addressed.
@thomasshannon77938 ай бұрын
"God revealed it to me in a dream." I would not want to be that "translator" on Judgement Day! Another intelligent, informed commentary. Bravo, Tim, and amen. I am not Pentacostal in terms of the denomination, but would consider myself charismatic, in the sense of knowing experientially that what are commonly called the Gifts of the Spirit are "alive and well" today and will remain so until our Lord's return. Prophesy and interpretation of tongues, as you (and God) say, are for the edification of the Church in the church setting. I believe it to be a message right from God's heart to ours. Wish I could find a church where they are done decently and in order as is God's expressed will. I prefer to call them manifestations of the one gift of holy spirit within each of God's kids rather than separate individual gifts, because I don't know how else to read that section of Scripture. God definitely switches from gifts to manifestations with the list in 1 Cor. 12:7 so I do, too. Anyway, I have a few siblings in Christ who use that wonky "translation" and now I have this video to share with them. I've said much the same to them as you, but I'm "just Tom". Maybe they'll listen to Pastor Tim. This virtual part of your ministry is such a blessing to all of us. God bless you, my brother.
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@jeffawilliams18 ай бұрын
Amen. There are others trying to translate and it’s sad. This thing is really the TRASHion translation…
@freakylocz148 ай бұрын
AMEN!!! 🙌🙌🙌 Tampering with the Word of God in such a manner is wicked as Hell. Tell it like it is and call 'em out, Pastor Tim!
@glenn16118 ай бұрын
“The Bible doesn’t need anyone’s help to sound a certain way or say a certain thing … the Bible is the inspired word of God by itself.” Bottom line and end of story.
@enriquemata85588 ай бұрын
I am also Pentecostal and very disturbed about how quickly this has become so popular.
@KeithClick8 ай бұрын
We are blessed beyond belief with so many terrific options available - I can't imagine intentionally choosing The Passion.......
@PFAM58 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Saw Mike Winger talking about it too.
@sandracoombs22558 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Pastor Tim! Well done and good for you. 😊 This “translation” has crept into my Baptist church. I now know how to talk with friends considering buying it. In fact I wasn’t aware of the background to this until I saw you, Tim Frisch and Tim Wildsmith discussing it once. Many thanks and bless you for speaking out against error in the Church.
@antonella.mariee4 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this video, God bless you and your ministry!
@dloveofgod82698 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Tim! I've never seen a Passion bible remake; only heard a few people quote scripture in it. Oh my goodness this information needs to be passed on. 😢 Thank you!! God bless you 🙏!
@GloryQuest8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Tim! I've yet to hear a good thing about this so called "translation." Although I have many Bibles in many translations, TPT hasn't been one I've ever wanted to include.
@tony.biondi8 ай бұрын
AMEN! AMEN!... and AMEN! Bless you, Tim - spot on!
@e.m.809419 күн бұрын
I figured we'd have a similar opinion on this one. I don't understand how it's even allowed to be called a translation. Anytime someone says that they have "special" revelation from Jesus as far as interpreting the Scriptures, that's a major red flag. (Isn't Brian Simmons the one that said Jesus came in a vision to him playing a saxophone at the edge of his bed?) Also, I'm glad that you brought up some of the hyper charismatic stuff. I consider myself a "charismatic with a seatbelt" (I go to an AG church) , but I've seen some kooky stuff in other charismatic churches and meetings. There were definitely some "interesting" things that I saw/heard when I visited IHOPKC years ago as an example (before all the controversy started flying).
@JewandGreekАй бұрын
According to Bill Mounce (who was on both the ESV and NIV committees) a paraphrase is a rewording of an existing translation in the same language, and he used as an example The Living Bible which was a paraphrase of the American Standard. Since TPT is not based on an existing translation it's not a paraphrase by Bill Mounce's definition. Dr. Douglas Moo said that he has no issues with calling TPT a translation. Also, Brian Simmons never said that there's another chapter for the book of John. What he said was that he saw a *book* entitled John 22. Not an addition to the gospel of John (which he affirms is a sealed book), but a book called John 22, just like the church planting organization called Acts 29 (there's only 28 chapters in Acts). Third, he never said that an angel gave him insights into Hebrew and Greek. He said he named TPT after the angel of passion that he once saw in one of his services. He said that the insights were given by God.
@anickelsworthbiblereviewsАй бұрын
@@JewandGreek He said directly that an angel named Passion visited him and that Jesus promised him insights and secrets to the Hebrew and Greek. I don’t care how some dude defines a paraphrase. A paraphrase is to reword anything said or written and that is exactly what this translation does. Not only that, it is a poor one. There are mountains of evidence that Simmons wasn’t even qualified to “translate” a bible. Regardless, it’s nuts. It needs to be avoided.
@JewandGreekАй бұрын
@@anickelsworthbiblereviews When did he say that an angel named Passion visited him? In the story I heard him tell he saw an angel in one of his services and the Lord told him it's the angel of passion, so he took that as the name for the translation. Angelic visitations are biblical. And Bill Mounce isn't "dome dude". He's a highly respected Greek scholar and biblical linguist. If you don't like TPT that's fine, but you shouldn't be spreading false information about Brian Simmons in your effort to oppose it.
@biblecornerreviews8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this critique Tim. I haven’t looked into this version too deeply but this was very helpful. I knew it was crazy but didn’t realize all the background.
@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Brother Tim. Well-warned.⭐🌹⭐
@joshwitt14758 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the passion translation and warning others. I agree with what you said and have heard Brian Simmons say himself the very same things you reported him having said in an interview on the show “it’s supernatural”.
@ThecrosseyedTexan8 ай бұрын
Pentecostal or Baptist one thing we can all agree on is the integrity of God's word.
@ADFulghum8 ай бұрын
From another Pentecostal, I totally agree!
@caseybyrd76718 ай бұрын
I do still believe that prophecy is still available today. And I believe everyone has it today and can speak it. Jesus is the "Spirit of Prophecy" and we all can testified by the Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ died and rose again on the last day and he sitting on the right side of the Father. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy Revelation 19:10 NKJV. God doesn't give prophecy corrupt scripture using angelical beings.
@drewmoorehead31568 ай бұрын
Great video Tim! Thank you for bringing awareness to this!
@blazers11777 ай бұрын
Sounds more like a new age translation to me ”“Therefore behold, I am against the prophets,” says the Lord, “who steal My words every one from his neighbor. Behold, I am against the prophets,” says the Lord, “who use their tongues and say, ‘He says.’ Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,” says the Lord, “and tell them, and cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them; therefore they shall not profit this people at all,” says the Lord.“ Jeremiah 23:30-32 NKJV
@iloveNgany8 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of paraphrases, especially when such massive magnificent claims are made by the author. The Bible does not need to be made more powerful, it already is. Just write a book if you have a revelation to share, not an entire Bible. I know people that read the Passion almost exclusively…I just can’t imagine why.
@gerritgeurs60938 ай бұрын
100 percent spot-on!
@jamesideloach20868 ай бұрын
And that's how you get a cult.......
@KevinSavedByGrace8 ай бұрын
AMEN !! 🙏🏾
@LeaningTowerOfBible8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@lupemauldin11548 ай бұрын
What a great word .. thank you for speaking out
@sandersdca8 ай бұрын
For starts, I prescribe a good dose of Leonard Ravenhill.
@MrIshmael818 ай бұрын
Hmm… “secret knowledge.” Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, the section in Church History I about early church heresies.
@DEADCATHEDRALS4 ай бұрын
we truly are seeing the after-effects of gnosticism.
@christinawynkoop40278 ай бұрын
Fully agree
@WontonDisciple8 ай бұрын
I pray for Brian Simmons...I believe he is most likely deceived and therefore deceiving others. If this was a simple paraphrase and advertised as such, it wouldn't be such a problem, but Brian seems to suggest it's an inspired English bible with a higher level of divine authority. Very dangerous stuff to be teaching.
@jonasaras8 ай бұрын
If you think the TPT is bad, you should see “The Clear Word”. It’s an SDA paraphrase that’s loaded with Ellen White’s abhorent doctrines.
@donellgray92728 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I too have issues with this "translation ".
@djlclopez1288 ай бұрын
I wish you could have spent more time on this - this and the Message "translation" are freaky about how much they alter the Word....it's nowhere near the Word!
@hey123h8 ай бұрын
Where in the bible does it say someone is Pentecostal or this or what? No where, people add things to the bible who is not there, we are not putting a label on ourselves. Jesus said to follow him not to call urself a Pentecostal. We are disciples of Christ. The sum of Gods Word is truth. Labels added on themself. Why is it so many denominations? Because someone took a scripture and made a whole theology out of it. Look at the early church, they didnt say they were Pentecostal or baptist this or that, they only follow Jesus.-
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment.
@redeemed-gen-z8 ай бұрын
Hello, wow thanks for this informative video! I find it sad and am a bit anxious because I'm a teen currently attending a Fundamentalist-Charismatic church which is similar to Calvary Chapel. However we have a sunday school teacher who came back after moving to a different place years ago and recommended us the Passion Translation few months back. He also does seem to support the 7 mountains view and the astral projections judging by some of the contents of some of his lessons. I thought it was weird. Is there anything I can do? I'm concerned but also I don't think I'm in the position to say things..
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
It’s a tough position. The only thing you can really do is talk with the teacher and express your concerns to see if they are merited.
@rloseth6568 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking thr truth about the passion
@rcschafer22818 ай бұрын
Good stuff Tim. Thank you.
@CLoftis098 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining!
@christinawynkoop40278 ай бұрын
It's a highly questionable version of the Bible.
@rebeccamartin37448 ай бұрын
I have the TPT and although I love the "poetry" in it, I would never study out of it. I agree it can go too far. I have a friend that's the only thing she'll read out of. Me? I'll stick to the ESV, NASB, NKJV and my new love the CSB.
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
While it may be nice to read, it’s simply not accurate and presses an agenda.
@cpcourtney65708 ай бұрын
Yes indeed, Bethel church has lost their way.
@caseydbell8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@JBD-cx9sf8 ай бұрын
This is why I have issues with paraphrases of the Bible.
@christinawynkoop40278 ай бұрын
I personally wouldn't buy this Bible.
@anthonym.76538 ай бұрын
I appreciate your honest assessment of TPT and respectfully disagree with some of what you mention. I do agree with you that this is a paraphrase and not a translation. I see it as a pentacostal version of The Message. I read it sometimes in my morning devotions but I don't use it as a primary Bible for daily reading and studying. I also wouldn't recommend it to a new believer. But I also would not recommend The Message either. I see them in the same category. Simmons can be a bit nutty which brings much of the negative attention to it. Now, I await for the Mike Winger mob to go off on my post.
@fnjesusfreak8 ай бұрын
At least the author of The Message intended it to be used as a commentary, not as a primary Bible.
@anthonyortiviz32298 ай бұрын
the passion & message are just terrible and i bought a nlt didnt really care for it.I bought a11niv to update my 1990 NIV and lets just say the 11niv sits on my shelf along with the nlt.The ESV,NASB95 & NKJV gets the most use
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
The Message is honest about what it is at least.
@anthonyortiviz32298 ай бұрын
ya...i think; it should be read as a commentary ??? rather than a bible from some of the passages i read @@anickelsworthbiblereviews
@cindybrown92818 ай бұрын
How he received this translation sounds an awful lot like how Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. This “translation” should be avoided. Thanks for speaking out about it!
@anickelsworthbiblereviews8 ай бұрын
While it’s not an identical situation, it should still sound very similar alarms.
@DK-nq9wv8 күн бұрын
I would be in Fear of God as bible translator, to alter God’s words to a paraphrase that may not be accurately representing the truth about the Living God and his words.