The Philodendron that thinks it's an Anthurium!? | Importation, Tissue Culture, Aussie Extinctions

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Pete vs Plants

Pete vs Plants

Жыл бұрын

G'day, guys! In today's video, I do an unboxing of a Philodendron that thinks it's an Anthurium. When I say that, I mean the strappy long-leafed Anthuriums like Anthurium wendlingeri, Anthurium vittarifolium, and Anthurium pallidiflorum. This Philodendron puts those Anthuriums to shame!
Connect with me on Instagram - / petevsplants
We also have a bit of a chat about importation of plants in Australia and how it comes with importing tissue culture plants Down Under. And also why Australia has such strict importation laws when it comes to live organisms like plants and animals. Spoiler: we've got a back track record of introducing species that force Australia's beautiful endemic species to extinction.
For those who want to know which Philodendron it is, it's Philodendron patriciae, which is like those Anthuriums and like Philodendron esmeraldense and Philodendron sharoniae but on steroids.

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@jamesparadigm
@jamesparadigm Жыл бұрын
🐸🧦 I don't know what it is about plants named after people, but they seem like the most thoughtful gift. "Here you go Patricia, enjoy your new Philodendron". 💚💚💚💚 I'm glad to hear you talking about non-native/invasive species, and the problems that arise... it was almost a couple years ago that Marimo moss balls (though technically an Algae) had been found contaminated with invasive Zebra mussels and likely thousands; if not millions, of them had to be destroyed. Currently there are only a few companies permitted to import them and still they must be inspected at only a handful of airports upon entry.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a bit of a shame how much introduction of invasive species goes on around the world. The US and their lax rules always blow my mind
@amelise
@amelise Жыл бұрын
Honestly the satisfaction of growing out a tiny TC plantlet into a glorious monster of a plant is one of my favourite things ever. That story about customs chucking plants that looked dead but were almost certainly salvageable.... the horror. The sheer horror. I was wondering why so few people bother importing and why some plants are so cheap here whereas others are ridiculous or even just not available. At all. Your experience or at least your friends experience explains a lot. I was kind of hoping to import and maybe set up a little nursery. I made the mistake of telling the other half and he's started shopping for commercial sized greenhouses he said we have 75 acres and it needs to start making us money LOL But yeah the last thing we want to do is import something that's going to f up the ecosystem or agriculture, we have politicians doing that already.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd do something like uprooted then and focus more on TC :D
@alicelarez4311
@alicelarez4311 Жыл бұрын
My husband laughs when I show him the prices for some of the plants..Thank you for sharing and spending time with us.Cant wait for an update.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, mate! Yeah, prices are pretty insane here lol
@chronicmonkey
@chronicmonkey Жыл бұрын
The mature form of the patriciae is stunning. Not heard of it before now but I must have one. The price of mature specimens is wild, to me. I've not bought anything over $20 yet! I'm in the same position as you. I want to grow out some large specimens for my personal collection but I also want to grow a mum for prop, chop, and cost recovery. I've intentionally bought over planted or multiple specimens of plants I want to do that with. Still very early days for me though. I'm glad I found your channel, not just because you're a fellow Aussie, but you've got similar desires and goals for your hobby. You're just farther along than I am. lol Your attitude, character, and sense of humour also makes my day. I consider you one of my kind. 😅 You'd think customs would have people who know what they are doing with plants in the "flora department" as it were. The countless horror stories I've heard about importing plants is enough to out me off ever taking the risk. I understand and respect biosec. It's hugely important to protect our very unique isolated ecosystem. They've got the right sort of staff for dealing with fauna. Plants are just as freaking expensive, and they don't need as many resources. A knowledgeable person would have known to put the wet sticks in a prop box. 😔 Also like animals, not giving the right care to imported flora can really mess with a person's livelihood. 😠 The "prominent" fella you mention has the right idea. He's playing the numbers game. Like as you said one does with props. Makes sense. Definitely the way to go if you have the capital. Oh? You have a deflasking video? I'ma go find it. I love TC, it means plants I really want to get will eventually be within my budget. 😁 Sorry for leaving long comments on your videos. Plants are such a passion I can't help but ramble. I'm sure my housemate is sick of it being all he hears about from me! 🤣 I was starting to lose motivation before I happened across your channel. Finding your channel has renewed my motivation to keep plugging along towards my goals. Thank you for the time and effort you've put in to making content. 🥰
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Far out. Nothing over $20? That's some self control right there haha :D Good work! Haha I do exactly the same re: finding specimens that have multiple plants in them. Great stuff hehe Nawww, thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoy my antics haha glad to have you as a viewer then :D Where are you in Aus? Re: importation and them throwing them out, I think they're not allowed to prop them whether that's an Australian legal thing or the business saying "We're not taking specific processes from clients". Cheers for dropping by, mate! Leave a long comment any time :)
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 Жыл бұрын
Yeah great video, I'm glad you got into all that! A lot of people even here don't realize what it takes to import plants or animals or even biological material like raw wool into the country. I've had SO many Indonesian sellers try to convince me to smuggle plants in - oh no its fine, we'll give you a phyto certificate, we won't write on the box what's in it...um NO!!! I even let AQIS know about one very persistent one who wrote out his plan in fb messages, including that he's done it before, and how the Australian guy he sold to laughed about how easy it was... It makes me angry because apart from the legal and financial risk I'd be taking (not him), it's SO horrendously destructive. I saw in a plant group that there's a new pest up north (so far); guava root nematode (it affects a wide range of plants, not just guavas) and my first thought was smugglers. I used to breed a few rare chooks, and the breed I was into, brahmas, were first imported in 2016. They started at $1400 trio, because it took a very persistent group of breeders who pooled resources 10 years and a million dollars (!!!!) to import them. First there were issues with fertility of eggs (they could only import eggs, not live birds) in the UK where they were sourcing them, then after the first 5 years they got a batch of eggs through but they were destroyed here in Australia because a disease that we already have here was found on them!! I also spin wool and people well meaningly set up international swaps that result in raw wool being sent to people here - also illegal and dangerous. So your point about tc is interetesting, in that its a sterile way to import plants. I am personally not a huge fan of tc overall but I actually hadn't considered that angle, thank you! :) :)
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
I've had one of those Indonesian people harassing me recently relentlessly. Every time I simply viewed their messages, they'd send more. And they kept assuring me they could smuggle without it ever being detected. I told them no worries, as long as I can send them cannabis and cocaine smuggled in to their home address. They didn't reply.
@juliashearer7842
@juliashearer7842 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating chat
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Cheers, mate!
@zrzekmane5116
@zrzekmane5116 Жыл бұрын
Excited to see those Patriciae grow bigger! As a mother, I have say, you made me a nervous wreck waving around those scissors! I was ready for you to take off running with them! 😂
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
LOL... And bad news is both had root rot. Chucked them into the aeroponics unit and they're still holding on so I'm hoping they don't die.
@zrzekmane5116
@zrzekmane5116 Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 Oh noooo! Wow, what a bummer. Hopefully you can get them back healthier than ever! Good luck!
@litlbeck
@litlbeck Жыл бұрын
You'd think that customs / border control (or whichever department it is) would take more care (though I'm not surprised). But it's just ridiculous that their first instinct is to chuck something away, when I'm sure they had documentation stating the value. Would it be so much of a stretch for whoever is in that role to get a clue about plant care? This grinds me gears on your behalf!
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no idea... It's not customs and boarder control that ultimately deal with it. You have other companies that do the quarantining for you, and they must have strict guidelines about what they can and can't do ultimately.
@SuperUsername147
@SuperUsername147 Жыл бұрын
Omg I want a patriciae so badly! Will be buying one with Christmas money.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yay! Good work! They're pretty awesome when they get large :D
@PlantVisionz
@PlantVisionz Жыл бұрын
You can actually import seed so long as its labelled properly same as palm seeds.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm getting mixed messages from people. Some saying it's fine, others saying it's now illegal...
@wyattbashinski6320
@wyattbashinski6320 Жыл бұрын
Red leaf exotic did not do tissue culture for their variegated spiritus, it was self pollination they have a video on it. They are amazingly beautiful though and I hope they do go through TC eventually!
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that, I have seen the progress of his seeds on an aroid group, and know he grew them out from selfed seeds from his own plant, I thought, oh wow, he put them in tc after all that?! lol!
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you might be right, but they're in TC now in that people in south east asia are now selling PSS and variegated PSS as TC plants.
@wyattbashinski6320
@wyattbashinski6320 Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 yay! Thanks for letting me know
@gracewithnature
@gracewithnature Жыл бұрын
We can legally import seeds in Australia. A lot of people in desert roses community import seeds from Asia and grow them here.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Ah nice, I wonder though if they're only certain plants or if they still need to go through quarantine of some kind.
@gracewithnature
@gracewithnature Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 I’m pretty sure it’s for all plants. Still need to get import permit but it doesn’t have to go through the extensive 3 months quarantine. It was last year I did some research and managed to find Gov’t website that has all the import categories and I believe as long as your import fits within the category (allowed species) it is allowed.
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 Жыл бұрын
@@gracewithnature You'd still have to go through a pretty lengthy process :)
@AbiSarav
@AbiSarav Жыл бұрын
It's strange that the plant care facility didn't even consider letting a node grow out for the imported plants. Also poor form that they didn't check with you guys prior to binning them.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yep... bit of a shame
@mhzplantingaroids
@mhzplantingaroids Жыл бұрын
Hey I got one! It is definitely a must have for Philo lovers. Mine literally shot out TWO leaves in one shoot. Like literally TWO leaves. I don't want to be baiting you or what, but you can see in my latest video and there's a timestamp for Patriciae(please let me know if this is baiting so I can immediately delete this part). Both are growing and unfurling. Seriously what an amazing and interesting thing that two leaves coming out from one shoot. Can'ttttt wait for it to get matured!
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Haha not at all, mate. Bait away :P I'll try to go check it out shortly. Very jealous as I'd love a big one :D
@mhzplantingaroids
@mhzplantingaroids Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 Haha thanks! And yup, each time I see a mature Patriciae, I get butterflies 😂
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
@@mhzplantingaroids hehe totally want!
@mhzplantingaroids
@mhzplantingaroids Жыл бұрын
spiritus sancti can grow that huge?!?!??!?! I thought it was just a normal sized Philo! 😍😍😍 And, wow, you can't even import seeds? 😱 Edit: Understood the reasoning near the end of the video. Thanks!
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 Жыл бұрын
We can't import any biological material, not seeds, plant matter, eggs, raw wool...we're a geologically isolated continent and are protected from many diseases and pests the rest of the world struggles with. We don't have rabies, for example, or a lot of things that if imported could destroy our ecology or agriculture 🙂
@mhzplantingaroids
@mhzplantingaroids Жыл бұрын
@@sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 Ahhh I see. That makes so much sense. For this hobby though, the only downside is like mentioned, prices get real high and accidents like disposing “dying” plants. But that’s awesome that the strictness is preventing all you mentioned! 💪🏼 Thank you ☺️
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, things are very strict here for the reasons Sunflower Hill mentioned. Export is also pretty hard apparently.
@susiesmith2543
@susiesmith2543 Жыл бұрын
You can import from equagernara (spelling). I do.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
In Australia?
@susiesmith2543
@susiesmith2543 Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 not sure check it out they are in Asia
@mi_waylive1656
@mi_waylive1656 Жыл бұрын
Where do you source TC specimens from? I'm in Australia
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
I've got contacts in Thailand, Indo, and elsewhere that sort it out for me.
@dnnbsc
@dnnbsc Жыл бұрын
Ooooof I got my first spiritus seedling in may for $500 and I just got a second one which is TC on a black Friday sale for $250 and I couldn't pass that up. Don't think I'm just rolling in money I'm not, I got a payment plan set up for both them. Ps. Mind you I'm not flexing just sharing my experience with obtaining them.
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Wow, crazy! Is that in the US?
@alicelarez4311
@alicelarez4311 Жыл бұрын
Etsy from Florida Patricie wwi4hv4 leaves appr. 6 inches long in a 4 inch pot for 115.00
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Importation is a nightmare.
@richardr5878
@richardr5878 Жыл бұрын
Wait, a PSS and BMF got tossed! I’m sick to my stomach right now. You’d think they would contact the importer and see what they want to do. After that experience, I think they would turn me into a smuggler. Damn!
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah pretty much... 7k in the bin
@wrimzy100x4
@wrimzy100x4 Жыл бұрын
I have big specimen of Patriciae
@wrimzy100x4
@wrimzy100x4 Жыл бұрын
I have sent you pics on instagram have you seen it?
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Will check shortly, mate :) Thanks!
@russellyoung1
@russellyoung1 Жыл бұрын
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IN AUSTRALIA??? I NEED TO KNOW!!!
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
Facebook groups :D People auction them off
@russellyoung1
@russellyoung1 Жыл бұрын
@@petevsplants7516 Oh sad.. I can't order off Facebook or eBay
@justanotherfaceinthecrowd
@justanotherfaceinthecrowd Жыл бұрын
Are you not allowed to send parcels in “any old box” in Oz? Seems every package you have is in an Australia post box 📦
@petevsplants7516
@petevsplants7516 Жыл бұрын
I think you can, it's just that these are easy, cheap, and do the job.
@alicelarez4311
@alicelarez4311 Жыл бұрын
With 34 leaves
@alicelarez4311
@alicelarez4311 Жыл бұрын
No 4 leaves
@alicelarez4311
@alicelarez4311 Жыл бұрын
No 4
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