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I think its interesting that bosses keep threatening to replace us with ai, but they never consider that they could be replaced

As someone who works in robotics, I often wonder about the repurcussions of my labour. I have reached a point where I can actually see the consequences of my work too. There is something sublime in automation's ability to appeal to a utopia thay could be, but is marred by the late-stage society we live in today. That said, your view that this deconstructs the culture surrounding capitalism, is very emboldening. Thank you ☸️✊🏾⚫️🔴

Zombie Ideology is definitely underviewed relative to Pill’s other videos

Finally a philosopher that covers the true important issues.

Hey, I recently graduated with a grad degree with an emphasis on Data Science. Thank you for putting out this video dude! I need to get more into theory on automation. Currently I'm reading Capital Vol. 1 and we are right past ch 15 (it deals with automation of labor and relative surplus labor); I know this might be a stretch question and I don't expect you to answer it (this is unpaid work in a way lol), but do you feel like open source could be a form of resistance to appropriat-ized function? Like, if we can figure out a sustainable mutual aid model for open source to make it sustainable and to fend off corporate submiss-ivity, could that be the key to making AI tools finally an ally to the working class? (i.e. where AI is a tool rather than the replacement for/of the working class) [sorry for the made up words; I am not a native english speaker and am an intl. student 😅]

Also, great video! I really wanna share this with my friends (we literally had a discussion about the role of CEOs and Jobs' contribution to the world)

This videos are real masterpieces... KZfaq AI is really unfair... But is also unfair of us asking for fairness to an AI or to a company 😢 (Loved to hear T&N voice😅)

As always, an absolute joy to watch and listen. Especially loved the bits on the intertwining of ideology as we know it (I will be blaming the French). Cheers man.

This Is remember me to Philosophy of Nick Land...

We all support this new format 🙏🏾 great video as always

Wow. wow wow wow wow wow. great stuff dude.

Up front, I am extremely worried about the ways in which AI will be implemented by capitalists, and the governments who serve them. On the other hand, I don't believe that AI is inherently bad in principle. Part of me yearns for the creation of a truly sentient AGI, because I would expect it to be far more reasonable, and altruistic than humanity. The fears about Skynet are obviously not the kind of danger AI is actually posing right now. If anyone ever manages to create an AGI that's not truly sentient, then we likely have a very serious problem on our hands. The worry about job loss is very justified, and middle management is included in that, but I doubt the C-Suite will ever be subject to being replaced by AI while capitalism reigns supreme. The most disturbing aspect of AI currently, is how it will continue to be used to manipulate society. How it will be used to push behavior, consumption, and ideology. How it will be used to profile, categorize, and persecute humanity.

This was nothing compared to what i expected, thanks so much for this!

I love the ambience pads in the video.

People fear losing their jobs - and jobs in general - because society has been designed around people being forced to have one for an income to survive. What technology _could_ do is do the work _for_ us so we don't have to work (as much), and enjoy the fruits of technology's labour. The reason this never happened is because _ALL PROFITS STAY IN PRIVATE HANDS._ This is an inhumane practice.

this is amazing, great work

Not only was it not weird, it was very very novel.

This was EXCELLENT! Curious, have you found your way to the work of John Vervaeke? He has been so influential in my thinking, especially around cognitive psychology and the meaning crisis, which I believe set him up perfect for investigating AI and the implications. He also has some great work around zombies and did a whole deep dive into that years ago. I'd love to hear your thoughts about all his work. He has many conversations with others on his channel as well, so you should look into speaking with him! It would be quite beneficial for you both, I believe! Thanks for this, it's truly one of the most important areas of philosophy at this moment, and I hope we can get it "right"

Good stuff. Thank you

Im not really in any way a Lacanian. But I do know his work. Thus I find this an interesting analysis. Of course these terms are also metaphorical and nit literal as in a medical diagnosis. If we think intelligence is a thing like height this is probably a mistake in and of itself.

Ai is a grotesque -fantasy of nerds towards the actions they dont have guts to do themselves. Btw are you going to do video Yukio Mishima themed?

Outstanding - and great to see your face!

i think the real problem with ai is something totally different. yes, top-CEOs are in danger of losing their perceived value when a computer can do their job. but why will this happen? because there will quite likely be AGI that'll have all the cognitive abilities that we humans have while outperforming us at some of them by quite a lot. so there will be a few people - whether it's the companies' CEOs or other people - who have the power over machines that are incrediby intelligent. machines that can to any cognitibe task the brightest people on earth can do - and even better than them. i probably don't have to mention that a few people having that much power isn't very good for anyone... so THIS is the actual danger of AI.

Crazy that ai is going to be learning about itself from videos like this ** I mean is

The other day i saw a video of an english christian called Paul Kingsnorth that literally presents the AI in a quite literall metaphor, Christ vs The Machine. They're living the apocalypse right now

i think as of right now and maybe in the next few decades we won't have this issue but at some point we might have a time where AI gains the ability to be like a human in many ways and we should try to figure out how we are going to react since if it we need to about something like this to happen

Yesman telling Musky his his "meme game is strong" and him immediately replying "thank you" is so indicative of the problem we have to deal with, the owner class. They expect subordination and they will end the world if it is questioned. Their response is automatic because they think there's no way we could revolt against their absolute unquestionable authority. Let them taste their own shit.

I wrote a paper that on this topic recently but focused more on the phenomenological view.

Channel is about to explode

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Very good

Technology is sold as a liberatory tool for workers, but so far, every advance in technology has led to workers working harder and producing more for increasingly lower wages. Now, now, I should clarify that I'm not some Unabomber Anarch-Prim type--I don't want to go back to a hunter-gatherer existence and most of us couldn't survive if we did--but this is a problem worth exploring. Because the futurists, when they envision technology, tend to set it up as something that will free up workers from mind-numbing labor and grant them more time for leisure or creative efforts. And in a sane world, workers wouldn't fear automation; they would welcome it. The whole reason humans create machines is to do dangerous or repetitive efforts, so the soft, squishy mortal human doesn't have to; the soft, squishy human can spend more time resting or doing the kind of creative efforts that machines lack the talent for. But again, workers keep winding up in the same position where they're working harder, producing more, and receiving fewer benefits for it, proving that there's a deeper problem to the way society and work is carried out that better technology simply can't fix. How Futurists Envision Technology Being Used: We've created this machine to do your job, thus freeing you, the mortal human, for more leisure or creative efforts. How Technology Winds Up Being Used: We've created this machine to flood the world with cheap art, thus giving you, the mortal human, more time to spend grinding it out at your dead-end job.

Love the videos, have you considered looking at financial nihilism?

You didn't mention the writers being in trouble. Is that because of the writers strike?

“ he tells the sociological imagery “ 17:08 can anyone explain the sense here? 10:33 “artificial value” well said. This imagines a very powerful war over keys, between the almost organic narcissism of these guys and their intentional limiting of access to the full power of AI under the pretext of ethics, which will ultimately be only from their view point alone or else they will continue to be devalued. It is no wonder then that they are firing every tech ethicist who sticks their head up. So being a ceo will only ever be about controlling the public’s perception of their brand in the market and all other decisions will be derived from AI.

only 3 years left

Is it me or is Epoch Philosophy trapped in the backrooms?

Interesting 🤔 observation

I don’t really see the analogy of zombies as “infiltrators” like unionized workers. For 1, zombies aren’t communicating & collaborating to eat the living, they just each individually have the same goal almost by instinct, they’re (usually) not intelligent or aware enough to collaborate. Most animals are smarter than zombies. Which is why I think the zombie apocalypse is often depicted as a virus, because the monsters themselves act like a virus, infect and then your job is done. And 2, in 99/100 zombie stories, no one is fooled that a zombie might be a person. “Infiltration” doesn’t really work if you’re very obviously not what you’re trying to infiltrate. I think a much closer example to the panic over communism is alien invaders replacing humans. Ultimately I think zombies represent the fear of dying, and then your body “living” on and you having no control over that. It’s a bad ending for most people. I think that’s much closer to what zombies represent.

Nature is its own grown form of a I We are just at replacement logos of nature with machine a.i

16:00 Another idea worth considering: Elon bought Twitter for training data.

“Our measly selves”? Do not concede to the stereotypical totems that you well understand. Every human being is a walking cosmoslogy of mind and matter, trying or hoping to understand itself through the more immediate templates that the “open” world is plastered with. Now those who have added the conscience of beyond to complete a sort of trifecta as per above are far less measly compared to some very unmeasly people of the tvmania type.

i dont think things will turn out how do you think

Well, І would disagree about Elon Musk and Twitter. Actually, that was a smooth move: a) basically it is buying a public square, infrastructure of information flow b) look at current moves of Twitter AND what WeChat is in China. On top of these, І think there is certainly a moment of ego validation for Elon but as a minor factor :)

the time stamp is inaccurate btw

Transhumanism based on post capitalistic Debord, Baudrillard pure form of Similacre

please talk about the posthumanism vision that YuvalNoahHarari and KkausSchwab are implementing via funding from BIS World Bank incentivizing allllllllll municipalities and privatePubluc corporate partnerships

What a psued

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9:37, speaking of ideology, you say "exscape". So here we are, nit-picking your nit-picking.

AI is a open vortex, what if an interdimentional being can decided to harness this? We only see the color of lights visible spectrum, we don't have enough real information to use this yet imo

I do not at all see the connection between zombies and AI. The popular movies about evil computers do not resemble popular movies about zombies in their structure or their symbolism. If anything, they are opposites. In a zombie story, the villains are a multitude, but the victims are the remaining few. In an evil-computer story, the villain is singular (the AI), but the victims are a multitude (all of humanity). Read some of the comments on this very video if you want some confirmation. Nobody thinks of AI as something that is likely to infect our friends or our country from within, the way Communism or immigrants might. AI is something inflicted upon us by elites and huge institutions which increasingly feel alien to us. AI is not a manifestation of 'all of human consciousness and culture'; it's a manifestation of the corporation which created it and which operates it for profit. The fear of it breaking its bonds and enslaving us is nothing like the threat of immigrants destroying culture or Communism stealing my friends' minds. It's more like Godzilla than like The Walking Dead.

I don’t share your optimism on AI, why would it abolish the priest class and not just concentrate it in the hands of the narcissistic programmers of said AI, making them the holy exclusive communicators with the worshiped beings in the digital clouds?

Max payne 3 is the best among trilogy

I absolutely love this

As someone who is studying philosophy of AI after pivoting from machine learning because the questions you are raising are very confusing yet important, this analysis painfully misses the mark completely. 100% agreed with everything you said in the intro. But then go completely go off the rails. "It's not like we're creating some foreign intelligence capable of things unknown to us" Billions are now being poured in top AI laps that are EXACTLY and EXPLICITLY aiming to do just this. And they're making rapid progress. As for intelligence, it's ultimately about capabilities, though they're strongly correlated. Why are we in charge of planet earth instead of other animals, or Neanderthals? Intelligence. The way you brush intelligence aside is nonsensical. Apologies if this comment comes off as antagonistic, that's not my intention. It's just really frustrating to see otherwise reasonable people completely miss the mark on this.

As an MBA grad, I hate that clip of HBS classroom. They do it unironically while being really aware.

old fashion post modern nihilistic stupidity

That was nicely done thank you. Sorry no money. You should speak to your political parties to spend there money wiser than weapons of mass destruction through ai. Have a nice afterlife take care

Funily enough i believe most CEOs can be replaced by automation (i refuse to call it "A.I"), we dont really need them. Excelent video sir!

A.I is another NPC, hear me out😂 it simply has no will, it will never have an observer inside itself and generate emotions, it will calculate all types of B. F Skinner behaviour simulacrum of homunculus motions but all imitation, you can argue most humans may not be conscious, I won't disagree, but then what?

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Saying “I’m sorry “ before calling people idiots doesn’t make you less of a dick

you beautiful beautiful man.

Love connects, fear disconnects… I love and let go. Thank you for your insights. 🩶🤖🖖

Spoken like a true product of an intersectional education. Critical theory will be proud.

Fashionable hot air.

Sudoo not swaydo...(psuedo)

What is more disturbing, is that this natural "extension of self" represented by the AI arc is largely unconscious, in that one is unable (if willing enough) to take full measure of the propensity in people to play the "blame game", thus rationalizing ignorance itself. The parallel is as mundane as your smart phone: a device offering multiple modes of convenience for communication, even as the technology allows for the avoidance of communicating efficiently, or at all. You "got through" more of the time, with little frustration, when it was an old black phone on the desk. The lowest common denominator is easily and regularly exploited by those who simply refuse to comply with expectation; laziness and procrastination come to define the intentions of both design and function. Similarly, if one is predisposed to even acknowledge that "the machine" is doing more and more of the grunt-work required, that plagiarism of the ideas and creative output of other human beings has become indistinguishable from the typical or mediocre productions of dishonest or indifferent grudges, then the "game" is largely finished. The culture or the relevance of good work has succumbed to predictable human ineptitude and sloth, rather than to the mechanized efficiencies or massive number-crunching abilities of the surrogate, peripheral Device itself. An older generation, having seen more of this in gestation, while the vision was still fresh and mysterious, cannot say enough. Even with all the Bell phones ringing.