It's like poetry. Each stanza kind of rhymes with the last.

+Harry S. Plinkett review episode 7 you fat shit

+Darran Kern It's up on my webzone now, and available to watch for the low, low price of one pizza roll... or one butchered hooker. Just be careful! You may not agree with my ppinion...

+Harry S. Plinkett first of all, you send pizza rolls, not receive them. Second of all, I just checked redletermedia, and there's no episode 7 there. And third? WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?

+Darran Kern What's RedLetterMedia? I said to check my webzone, you hack.

Awesome quote. What's that a reference to?

Franz Sanders see "Red vs Blue".

Specifically it's from season 6 of Red Vs Blue.

Especially communism

dhdkfjskfj i automatically read it with a southern accent...

I want the philosophy of the bee movie

Idk man, probably too complex

bruh. cory awaken my mind in reality

Wow that is deep

Samuel Bird wow

"predisposed to self loathing" Oh boy, I smell a snowflake. "These days we are constantly told how worthless, evil or corrupt..." Give me a break. Who's telling you you're corrupt/evil often enough that you're actually beginning to believe them ? And what.the.fuck. You do know there's nothing natural OR harmonious about sleeping on factory-made cotton, pissing in a porcelain toilet, or eating processed food products, right ?

Timothy Spence By self loathing I meant as a species - not individuals - and special snowflakes with their constant whining of "eerrh people suck because they don't accept us" are among most annoying of the people i was speaking against. The theme "humanity sucks, humanity is a virus, humanity is violent and selfish etc" is virtually everywhere, INCLUDING in the games that are the subject of this video, (though in this case they also highlight some of the good points too). We are flawed, yet awesome, and the *whole point* of the comment was that I *don't* believe that humans suck. And your last argument clearly shows a misunderstanding. I sit there saying that our primal behaviors/flaws (violence, greed, selfishness) are the products of nature, and you then start talking about the artificial products of our higher functions? What? Furthermore, why are any of those "unnatural" things inharmonious? Humans are in strife by making textiles? Taking a poo on the ground is more peaceful than in a ceramic bowl made from the ground? I have the ability to create beds rather than just sleep in the dirt and that makes me antagonistic? Animals make constructions or adaptations to things they find all the time, like termite mounds or bird's nests or ants farming fungus. What exactly were you trying to say? Seriously, I tried to make a post about humanity's capacity for self improvement, and you have tried to criticize it, yet not really made it clear if you disagreed. Do you actually have a problem with people not despising humanity or seeking its improvement? (in which case I would be happy to discuss the subject) Or were you simply being a standard KZfaq comments contradictarian? Please be more clear.

+Sam Page lmao 😭 Sorry, I wrote that comment when I was drunk... But to be fair, plants DO require nitrogen for fertilization. Something which they get less-of if us humans take to disposing our waste in a man-made sewage system, just to later get burnt into harmful chemicals in our atmosphere. Basically, I retract all arguments except for the one where I stated it wasn't harmonious to shit on your own throne: that was awesome.

I think vaccinations is a clear indication of evolution going backwards. How is that for logic? Or the fact that, if your kid isn't smarter than you were at that age> well then you have failed as a parent. Logic.

rosenti Being able to become more resistant to diseases without even needing to catch them and risk death, thus increasing the viability of yourself and the species? You just made a statement without any support and called it logic? What logic? .... good grief you're not anti-vaccine are you? And whats this about kids being dumber? I would agree that kids are coddled too much these days, and the education system is too focused on being "positive" or "encouraging", but a different skill set is not the same as stupid, and most of the scientists that ever lived are alive now. Bad parents have existed since the dawn of time, as have stupid people, so nothing you have said has made any impact here. Please back up your statements instead of just making them and acting like you have said something earth shattering.

Zach Arbogast I somehow knew someone would say this and already mentally prepared a comment. The Walking Dead explores social issues, the difference between right and wrong, whether or not actions are justifiable in survival situations, loss of innocence, pacifism, human nature and a lot of subjects that would be great to her Wisecrack delve into. Even politics at times. It's had it's bad points but is overall a pretty great show.

Zach Arbogast I expected it because it gets a lot of hate. Are there really that many other shows that have touched on these themes in an apocalyptic setting? I don't think I've seen many. I honestly don't think you've properly watched the show. People's biggest complaint throughout season two was 'not enough zombies' since they'd chosen to focus almost entirely on character development, and they do it pretty well. Just look at Rick's transformation from Sheriff Every-man to homicidal dictator. Or Daryl's from aggressive loner to reliable group member who lays down his life for his friends. Or Carol's from battered wife to borderline psychopathic killer. Or Shane's from lonely cop to crazed murderer. Or Carl's from scared child to sociopath. Morgan's from Christian father to PTSD ridden maniac to pacifist. Need anymore? This show's focus is character development, to the point where some people complain. At times the show definitely fell down in it's writing. Parts of season five frustrated me, especially with Beth. Some ways they handled the Governor/Andrea story line should have been different. Season two had it's issues. But as a whole, the good outweighs the bad. Just watch the first four episodes of season six to see the show bringing it's A game.

Zach Arbogast In all fairness, those subjects are pretty hard to avoid in post apocalyptic media. And we're not comparing this with movies or books. Let's stay in one form of media here. And I can't say I've seen many post-apocalyptic television shows that follow the same themes. I really don't see the character development as being lazy. Not most of the time, at least. I'm not defending everything the show's ever done. But the way they played Shane's descent into madness, Rick's shifting ideologies and Carol's violent empowerment was pretty nuanced and subtle for the most part. I find it hard to believe you frequently watch the show. Most of what you're saying could be said around parts of the third and second seasons, but the last three have taken a great step forward.

Zach Arbogast Lets think about the themes we're talking about here. Social have been explored in so many mediums in so many ways because they're always changing. There's new things to talk about and new ways for it to be done. The same goes for human nature, it's such an expansive subject there's always new ways to look at it. Pacifism and the loss of innocence aren't things I see often explored, not today at least. What makes violent actions justifiable, however, is. That I agree on. Have you actually consistently watched the show for an extended period of time? And if so, when. This show has gone through about four different show-runners in it's time on air that you could say season two and season five seem like different series. But I'm not sure if, at any point, you could look at Rick's character and say 'that was too unbelievable' or 'that was handled really poorly'. The same could be said for Daryl and Shane. Carol didn't really come into her own until season four but when she did, it was handled really well. I have issues with Carl but I don't think he's that bad. I really think you're underrating it's use of subtlety and nuanced characters. It's really not fair to equate it to Breaking Bad, which is honestly the best drama I know of. If you compare everything to Breaking Bad, you're not going to like anything. I don't quite understand your last paragraph, sorry. But really, watch the last four episodes of season six. Honestly some of the best the show has ever done, especially Here's Not Here.

Zach Arbogast Seem like different series, I meant to say. I'll admit, there were times in season three where I agreed. The were serious problems with the Governor/Andrea story-line, Carl had issues, Carol was barely heard from and the focus seemed less on character development. But that doesn't mean it wasn't there. I mean, what about Rick in season three? Everything that happened in season two had completely shifted his ideology and psychological state in a totally believable way and his reaction to Lori's death was written really well. We saw Daryl deciding where his loyalties were and a deeper look at his relationship with his brother. Morgan had an episode dedicated to his descend into PTSD. Michonne was introduced and almost completely changed by the end of the season. And very little of this was shown in a ham-handed or over the top way. I'm not sure it is fair. Partly because of the specific genres we're talking about. You can't expect Rick's transformation to be the same as Walter White's due to the wildly different situations they're in. But mainly because if everything was judged so harshly against Breaking Bad, there would only really be one good show on TV. I think you need to carry on and finish the show to properly engage in this discussion in a detailed way.

I don't get how anybody could hate him. Sure, he looks down his nose at you but if you were a self-made billionaire genius inventor who has survived for centuries because of your own ingenuity, you'd look down on a random deliver boy/girl too.

Seven Billion lul, literally not what I said at all but whatever

+Seven Billion No, but it's ok if you're literally rebuilding civilization.

Brian Sebor You said "you'd look down on a random deliver boy/girl too" as if you wanted to justify it.

Harry S. Plinkett Too bad he isn't and is only rebuilding one city.

Not enough Fallout 1 and 2 in this video.

i wish interplay would still make fallout games instead of bethesda

I think that turnbased gameplay is pretty boring to watch. Great games tho.

Mack Ridym Say what you want. In Classics any bullet can change outcome of the battle. For me boring is getting Power Armor after 15 minutes of gameplay and smashing deathclaws with it. You respect your equipment more when you earn it... not give it for free.

Franciszek Rychlewicz Did I say that new games are better? Or vice versa. Nope.

I like House, but... isn't taking control for yourself way more fun >:D

"he does say that he has no faith in democracy, but his "dictatorship" only goes as far as security" False. First of all, having a dictator is bad, you have no way to prevent him from doing something crazy (are we just supposed to believe his words for faith? Will he always be a good and sane guy?), you have no representation, it's basically an imposed king that we didn't choose. Also, House actually is imperialist too, just like the NCR. He interferes with other settlements outside the Strip and their politics, if they are against his "Personal view of the world". "He also very explicitly states he has no interest in legislating what people do in their spare time" Which is very bad when you are the only person that has political power. A leader than only cares about security, and nothing else, is pitiful to be gentle and a disaster to be realistic. What about Social Justice? what about jobs, work opportunities, equality? He is the "Free Market Dictator", Ayn Rand style (Bioshock, if you remember) that will let society crumble. Rich people will retain true power, poor people will simply die, and if you oppose his rule you will be silenced. "he has done almost nothing but good for Vegas; giving jobs to once lawless tribals, providing them with food, water, and medicine for those tribals, he singlehandedly saved Vegas from total annihilation by way of nuclear fire when the war first started, and his own mission is to re-ignite the technological sector and take mankind into space and search for a new planet unsullied by nuclear war." 1) He didn't "Give jobs" to lawless tribals. He hired guards for his empire. Also, they are still lawless. The Omertas are a Mafia-like organization, there are freaking CANNIBALS, and he is totally cool with them. 2) The true re-igniters of technology are the NCR (that is actually using technology for the common good) and the Brotherhood of Steel. House only cares about security. 3) He rarely mentions space at all, he just wants to keep his little empire. "there have been actual kings and Queens who put the needs of their country above all and made their country a measurably better place to live" But the actual MAJORITY of kins and queens did a shitty job, since they only cared about power, expanding land, keeping the rule for the upper class, religion wars and so on. The "good" kings are rare, and most of them were actually good because they were aided by a Constitutional and Democratic Congress/Parliament. Your entire speech is kinda Barbaric, you talk about Democracy as if it was some kind of Cancer, and Dictatorship as an heavenly place where the "good" (how do we know he is good?) King (Why him, and not another one?) will take care of people (even tho he has no obligation to do so, and most of the time in History actually didn't). Democracy is the best form of government, because we actually choose the best candidates, because we can take the power from them if they screw up, because they have to do what the majority says (or they won't be elected at all), and because the powers are differentiated and equilibrated, there is not too much power in the hands of few. Dictatorship is Adolf Hitler. Democracy is not perfect, but it has checking ways. "that democracy is always the best system of governance ever, even when that's been proven wrong historically many times" oh yeah, really? Did History teach us that Monarchy is better? (Nope), Dictatorship is better? (Nope), Fascism is better? (Nope). History teaches us that democracy is actually THE best form of governance. It is the lasting one, it is the one that most successful nations and rich nations on earth have, and it is the one that makes stability and freedom a priority. Wanna see how Dictatorship works? Look at Syria. Wanna see Democracy? look at Norway. If you want to live in a system where you can be killed just for speaking against the bully that has absolute power, you are more than welcome to go to Syria or North Korea and live the "Non-Westerner (WTF does that even mean? Japan is not West, but it's a Democracy, and kicks ass) dream" I honestly don't know why I bothered typing this out. In 2016 there are still some idiots claiming that Democracy sucks more than the alternatives? The good thing about democracy is that you can express this belief of yours freely, and even propose it. Not as much in other forms. You either agree, or Die/Won't be listened.

[False. First of all, having a dictator is bad, you have no way to prevent him from doing something crazy (are we just supposed to believe his words for faith? Will he always be a good and sane guy?), you have no representation, it's basically an imposed king that we didn't choose. Also, House actually is imperialist too, just like the NCR. He interferes with other settlements outside the Strip and their politics, if they are against his "Personal view of the world".] You criticize common dictators and not the Mr. House as portrayed in New Vegas. He’s proven he is true to his word by saving New Vegas from destruction and supplying the local populace with jobs, food, and medicine thus preventing them from preying on innocent people and each other, like they used to before they met House. The player is given no factual reason to doubt House does what he says he does. The only reason they would is because of their own prejudiced worldview that states democracy is the best governing system ever, which it isn’t, but more on that later. Also, House is not an imperialist, not in slightest. Imperialism is the expansion of one’s own territory into the territory of others and imposing their will onto the native populace. House has erected that gate at Freeside and has never tried to expand beyond that border. His only interference outside of the strip deals with the NCR and Caesar’s Legion, who he knows is plotting to kill him and take New Vegas for themselves. So essentially, he wants to stop strangers from coming to him and taking his life and his land away. [Which is very bad when you are the only person that has political power. A leader than only cares about security, and nothing else, is pitiful to be gentle and a disaster to be realistic. What about Social Justice? what about jobs, work opportunities, equality? He is the "Free Market Dictator", Ayn Rand style (Bioshock, if you remember) that will let society crumble. Rich people will retain true power, poor people will simply die, and if you oppose his rule you will be silenced.] All citizens of the strip are gainfully employed by him, and again, they have access to food, water, medicine, and shelter and total safety from raiders. There are no poor people in New Vegas, because of the 2000 cap entrance fee that must be paid for entry. Tourists who have no more money left to live there must leave or be tossed out. The woman selling food items on the strip is good example of this. She lives in NV and pays half her income in tax. In return, she’s allowed to live there peacefully. Only NCR tourists who don’t live in Vegas worry about being kicked out. So employment in Vegas is a non-issue. The reason the rich people of New Vegas have no power is precisely because they have absolutely zero say in what goes on in government, and can only run their hotels in a way that prevents any violence or theft. Granted, the Omertas were problematic for a time period; scheming to kill everyone in Vegas, but they were stopped by House’s good judgement and interference, that is, hiring you the player to find out what was going on and put an end to it. You could mistakenly argue that that’s just luck, but before you, House had Benny, and stated himself he is in constant need of a good human agent. In the world of New Vegas, social issues are long gone, though this is likely due to the political atmosphere of their world. Perhaps racism and sexism persisted in the days immediately following the great war, but they’ve long since gone. Also, House welcomes your ghoul and Super Mutant companion in the Lucky 38, and bears no prejudice against them. As such, no laws are passed discriminating against them. [He didn't "Give jobs" to lawless tribals. He hired guards for his empire.] Yes he did. Those tribals were hired to renovate the strip, provide security in the casinos, and manage the economics of the place, and were compensated for their work. [Also, they are still lawless. The Omertas are a Mafia-like organization, there are freaking CANNIBALS, and he is totally cool with them.] Omertas are only reminiscent of the mafia in that they employ prostitutes and talk in that accent. They’re clearly subjected to House’s rule of law, as they were terminated for conspiring to commit violence on the strip. He is not “totally cool” with cannibalism. If you select the right dialogue with Marjorie, she’ll tell you it’s written in their charter that the White Glove Society is not to take part in cannibalism, and House was unaware one of their members was planning to return to cannibalism, and if told, he will respond in disgust. [The true re-igniters of technology are the NCR (that is actually using technology for the common good) and the Brotherhood of Steel. House only cares about security.] This is actually one of less accurate comments you’ve made. The NCR doesn’t have the capabilities to advance technology the way House does, and he has. He invented the Securitrons, and the life preserving technology that he uses, which he said he’d make available to others for a price in the distant future. The Mojave chapter of the brotherhood of steel is morally reprehensible. They hoard all technological findings for themselves, don’t allow the admittance of new members because they perceive themselves as ideologically pure, and better than everyone else. They lock themselves in their bunkers and when they did go on patrol, they’d attack NCR troops without provocation. In Veronica’s companion quest, they murder the Followers of the Apocalypse members in cold blood out of fear that someone might discover their technology. They also refuse to help any of the people of the wasteland and seek to take away their technology, a stark contrast to the brotherhood of steel chapter as seen in Fallout 3. [He rarely mentions space at all; he just wants to keep his little empire.] House doesn’t often repeat himself, much like most characters in the game, without the players prodding. He mentions it in the beginning of his speech as one of his primary motivations as a character. [But the actual MAJORITY of kings and queens did a shitty job, since they only cared about power, expanding land, keeping the rule for the upper class, religion wars and so on. The "good" kings are rare, and most of them were actually good because they were aided by a Constitutional and Democratic Congress/Parliament.] I’m not referring to the majority at all. I’m referring to the few who did what’s right, and potentially allowing them to continue doing what’s right indefinitely. [Your entire speech is kinda Barbaric, you talk about Democracy as if it was some kind of Cancer, and Dictatorship as an heavenly place where the "good" (how do we know he is good?) King (Why him, and not another one?) will take care of people (even tho he has no obligation to do so, and most of the time in History actually didn't).] To answer these questions, see my above comments. Also, democracy is the idea that whatever or whoever is most popular is correct, which is not true in the slightest. People look out for their own interests, not the interests of each other. And again, House has proven himself to be morally sound and capable of rational judgement, see above. [Democracy is the best form of government, because we actually choose the best candidates, because we can take the power from them if they screw up, because they have to do what the majority says (or they won't be elected at all), and because the powers are differentiated and equilibrated, there is not too much power in the hands of few.] Democracy does not get the best candidates in power, just the most popular ones. Also, in the term based system of democracies, most rulers are never kicked out of office no matter what decisions their leaders make. Power is put into the hands of people acting in their own interest and the interests of those who fund their campaigns, not the people who elected them. [oh yeah, really? Did History teach us that Monarchy is better? (Nope), Dictatorship is better? (Nope), Fascism is better? (Nope). History teaches us that democracy is actually THE best form of governance. It is the lasting one, it is the one that most successful nations and rich nations on earth have, and it is the one that makes stability and freedom a priority.] [If you want to live in a system where you can be killed just for speaking against the bully that has absolute power, you are more than welcome to go to Syria or North Korea and live the "Non-Westerner (WTF does that even mean? Japan is not West, but it's a Democracy, and kicks ass) dream"] I will concede that dictatorships have often been used by power-hungry maniacs, but can be really positive if morally sound people are put in charge. And there haven’t been that many, and the ones I can think of, I’ve almost forgotten their names. But democracy puts power in the hands of the masses, who have been easily swayed and are generally uninformed. Democracy is tyranny by the masses. And whoever shepherds the masses, is in control. [Not as much in other forms. You either agree, or Die/Won't be listened.] Censorship is not inherent to autocracy. There is no governmental cure-all. Dictators can be definitely be awful, but so can a democratic nation. It doesn’t really matter in fact. I’m not saying Autocracy is perfect, nor is democracy. But the right person in charge, like House, is all that matters.

Where I put brackets is your post. [Like this]

Snow "He’s proven he is true to his word by saving New Vegas from destruction and supplying the local populace with jobs, food, and medicine thus preventing them from preying on innocent people and each other, like they used to before they met House. The player is given no factual reason to doubt House does what he says he does." False, House did not "freely" give anyone Food or Medicine, and there is no evidence of that. In fact, you can clearly see poor people getting kicked off from the Strip. House wants clients, not citizens to take care. And false, House did in fact lie on multiple occasions. First of all he violated the Pact he signed with the NCR (by attacking them first, if you go for House ending). Second, he lies in his own last will (which was redacted). Third, how do you know that everything else he says is true? I only have his word for that. Again, am I supposed to believe in him for faith? Common problem for Dictators. No argument here. "Also, House is not an imperialist, not in slightest. Imperialism is the expansion of one’s own territory into the territory of others and imposing their will onto the native populace. House has erected that gate at Freeside and has never tried to expand beyond that border. His only interference outside of the strip deals with the NCR and Caesar’s Legion, who he knows is plotting to kill him and take New Vegas for themselves. So essentially, he wants to stop strangers from coming to him and taking his life and his land away." False, again. He did attack the NCR first (1), he did influence (in his interest) other factions such as the BOS, the Boomers and so forth (2), he did make Imperialistic mooves (such as securing and conquering the Dam, even tho he was not the owner and it was actually the NCR that repaired it) (3), and finally his actions led to the actual conquest of the whole Vegas territory (and nobody wanted that, did they vote or choose in any way? No? Then it's conquest). The only legitimate conquests he did were the Vauylt 21 (cause he gambled) and the 3 Casinos. "All citizens of the strip are gainfully employed by him, and again, they have access to food, water, medicine, and shelter and total safety from raiders. There are no poor people in New Vegas, because of the 2000 cap entrance fee that must be paid for entry. Tourists who have no more money left to live there must leave or be tossed out. The woman selling food items on the strip is good example of this. She lives in NV and pays half her income in tax. In return, she’s allowed to live there peacefully. Only NCR tourists who don’t live in Vegas worry about being kicked out. So employment in Vegas is a non-issue." 1) False, he does not employ citizens. In fact there is no evidence that Casinos are owned by Mr House. In fact, they are owned by the Families (and each family gets the gaings, not Mr House). Also, Mr House is a Libertarian, he would never create a state in which the Government (Himself) owns the means of productions. 2) See my point above: he did not give free food, he does not employ. In Vegas you have to buy stuff. 3) Yes there are poor people, that are unjustly kicked out of th Strip just because they have no money to spend in those casinos. 4) And By the way, what a nice dictator: Cannibalism, Mafia-like organizations, bargaining, prostitution and slavery? Nothing wrong with that, that's cool. But you dare to be poor? GET OUT OF MY KINGDOM! Dictators: irrational, short-lasting, and crazy. "The reason the rich people of New Vegas have no power is precisely because they have absolutely zero say in what goes on in government, and can only run their hotels in a way that prevents any violence or theft" WTF? Dude, have youy even played New Vegas? they have ABSOLUTE POWER in their casinos. The Omertas did so many shady and shitty and immoral things, and he let them do it. Same goes with the other families. He only cares when they go against him (benny), even if they are rightly doing so. This is the worst form of government: the Dictator allows Evil (if it favours him), and only cares about his power. "Granted, the Omertas were problematic for a time period; scheming to kill everyone in Vegas, but they were stopped by House’s good judgement and interference, that is, hiring you the player to find out what was going on and put an end to it" "problematic"? CANNIBALISM and MAFIA and Forced Prostitution are "problematic"? And such issues, to Mr House, were less important than "poor people on the strip". Also, he didn't solve the problem. The Player does. And the player doesn't need House. You can solve that for Yes Men, for the NCR, for Ceasar. And even if you do that for Mr House, you could side with the evil guys nonetheless. Mr House doesn't care if you are evil, he just wants his power stable. "Perhaps racism and sexism persisted in the days immediately following the great war, but they’ve long since gone. Also, House welcomes your ghoul and Super Mutant companion in the Lucky 38, and bears no prejudice against them. As such, no laws are passed discriminating against them" Oh Yeah, if you just ignore how women are forced into prostitution in his casinos against their will, it's a perfect utopia! Also, he only lets YOUR ghoul and supermutant friends into the Strip, cause he needs you. Can you name me a single other Supermutant in the strip? EXACTLY. "Omertas are only reminiscent of the mafia in that they employ prostitutes and talk in that accent. They’re clearly subjected to House’s rule of law" False, see above: they are a true mafia organization (they are not just mimicking the accent or something), and House does nothing against them. "He is not “totally cool” with cannibalism" Oh, he is such a saint! He is not 100% cool with Cannibalism, he is only 99% cool with that! *Sarcasm alert* "If you select the right dialogue with Marjorie, she’ll tell you it’s written in their charter that the White Glove Society is not to take part in cannibalism, and House was unaware one of their members was planning to return to cannibalism, and if told, he will respond in disgust" Famous public officials lost their parents because of the WGS's cannibalism, a great fuss was in front of the Extra Luxury Casino, it WAS a huge mess. So either Mr House was so stupid that he failed to notice something that THE PLAYER (an outsider) noticed, or he simply didn't care. Don't know which one is worse. And again, even if you inform him, he won't strictly tell you to stop them. "This is actually one of less accurate comments you’ve made" Coming from you, that's a compliment! "The NCR doesn’t have the capabilities to advance technology the way House does, and he has. He invented the Securitrons, and the life preserving technology that he uses, which he said he’d make available to others for a price in the distant future" Are you seriously comparing a single man's capacities over an entire civilization? And you call this accurate? In the NRr there are some scientists capable of BRAIN TRANSPLANT, to make the Wasteland green again, and so on. Also, while Mr House doesn't really care what happens outside of the Strip, the NCR is actually providing Energy, Water and Food for citizens. "The Mojave chapter of the brotherhood of steel is morally reprehensible" Straw Man fallacy. I said BOS, you only talk about one chapter. generally speaking the BOS actually does employ technology for the greater good, in Fallout 1 they helped defeating the Supermutants, in Fallout 2 they helped defeating the Enclave, in Fallout Tactics they civilized Chicago, and do I even need to talk about Fallout 3? Compared to them, Mr House is a drop of rain in the desert. The NCR is actually putting seeds of technology and civilization in the wasteland, whil the BOS (much much more technologically advanced than Mr House will ever dream to be) has the greatest pieces of tech, and sometimes oses them for the greater good. "He mentions it in the beginning of his speech as one of his primary motivations as a character" Yeah, Bush also claimed we was never going to put a single tax. But here we are. Two centuries and counting, Mr House hasn't made a single step for Space Programs (the Enclave did, however). "I’m not referring to the majority at all. I’m referring to the few who did what’s right, and potentially allowing them to continue doing what’s right indefinitely" Which is a bad argument for kings if you base that argument on few good people, in a giant mass of bad/incompetent people. "Also, democracy is the idea that whatever or whoever is most popular is correct, which is not true in the slightest. People look out for their own interests, not the interests of each other. And again, House has proven himself to be morally sound and capable of rational judgement, see above." 1) For House, see above: totally false. 2) You are not talking about Democracy, you talk about Oclocracy, where the "mass" rules according to what they feel like and emotions. In a Constitutional Democracy there are limits to what the people can vote for, and the distribution of power, and minorities interests are saveguarded. Also, how ironic to claim that "the many" only have their interests at heart, and propose instead a single dude who will obviously NEVER want that. Despite History teaches us that they always do eventually. "Democracy does not get the best candidates in power, just the most popular ones. Also, in the term based system of democracies, most rulers are never kicked out of office no matter what decisions their leaders make. Power is put into the hands of people acting in their own interest and the interests of those who fund their campaigns, not the people who elected them" 1) False. In Constitutional Democracies you have to get some degrees to be elected, you have to be "clean" (no crimes), you have severe limits of time for your programs, and you are kept in check by many ministers. 2) False, in most democracy bad rulers can be kicked out. It's called "impeachment". Of course you have to have a good Constitution first. Also, it's Dictatorships that do have a leader that can't be removed no matter what, so it's ironic. 3) False again, there are laws preventing that, it's called "Conflict of Interest". Again, you need a good constitution. "I will concede that dictatorships have often been used by power-hungry maniacs" *More often than not, if not always. "but can be really positive if morally sound people are put in charge" *Since you don't vote for them, they put themselves in charge, and you are in no way capable of stopping bad people from doing that. "And there haven’t been that many, and the ones I can think of, I’ve almost forgotten their names. But democracy puts power in the hands of the masses, who have been easily swayed and are generally uninformed. Democracy is tyranny by the masses. And whoever shepherds the masses, is in control" Debunked above. Also, how ironic to claim that in Democracy a single dude can direct the masses and have total power, while in dictatorship that's even easier. "Censorship is not inherent to autocracy" Oh yes it is, especially historically. "Dictators can be definitely be awful, but so can a democratic nation" The difference is that: -Historically, dictators are FAR MORE OFTEN shitty than democratically elected leaders. -You have no way of stopping a bad dictator, you can stop a bad president. -You don't choose the leader (even if he is a really bad one, you are stuck with him cause he seized power). "I’m not saying Autocracy is perfect, nor is democracy. But the right person in charge, like House, is all that matters." Yeah, a megalomaniac that violated his own tracts, doesn't care about Mafia and cannibalism, has a dictatorial view of politics, leaves poor to die out, only cares about securing his power and extending his own life (like, seriously, that's the definition of "Final Evil Boss"), and doesn't really give a shait about everyone outside of New Vegas. Perfect example of a Dictator. And like all dictators he was defeated in the end by a Democratic force. And in his last will he INSULTED the people he wanted to protect. How ironic.

Tinnitusthenight not to mention they’re crucial for establishing the lore of the series.

Unfortunately I doubt a majority of the newer playerbase plays the Interplay games although at least they consider Fallout New Vegas (considered to be the spiritual sequel to 1 and 2 by many) to be the best FO game

The 3d games are more popular

@@Royinszki yeah but this is a video about philosophy, its like discussing the ideation of Aristotle idea with no mention of the influence of Plato or Socrates, to make an obvious comparison.

Tinnitusthenight Well they’re quite old, and most people dislike isometric style games. Thus most gamers haven’t played them.

+notoriouswhitemoth His name is John Henry Eden

Winter Song My mistake - that makes the symbolism even more pronounced.

notoriouswhitemoth John Henry Eden was also a U.S. General.

Natasel on one hand i see the best case scenario and on the other i see a rotten version of the brotherhood of steel (who in hte long run will have a negative impact) having him live for his plans is not that bad of a deal he is functioning as a biological server with data and knowledge of the past mistakes that could be dangerous if they were to be repeated as well as posessing the knowledge to build and maintain high tech that could rebuild society comperable to what big mt. has

Natasel thequestion is that would you even need the securitrons to manipulate or take over the fools of big mt. after you get your brain back (and retain the rest of the cybernetic augmentations) also i would not worry about house taking you out after he is done heck he scolds you if you kill benny saying that killing him was a primitive action of revenge

Natasel he only removed liabilities (brotherhood of steel and the kings are a good example) that would destabilise new vegas during a phase of an economic volitile state therefore unless you wanted to take out his plan you were safe as he said himself " if it was money or resources he would gladly provide all needed" on the other hand the anarchy route makes new vegas a volitile mess the caesar route is SHIT and the ncr route will fall flat on it's face because of it's inflexibility in other words house is the option that has the highest chance of a stable future on top of that if it is survival you seek after the events of big mt you are somewhere 50% robot so it is possible to upgrade yourself with the tech house produced into a full on cyborg (i bet he could even hook you up to a synth esque body) so yea you could be a century old unaging baron/baroness of a technological empire sounds sweet

Natasel yea it does play out on how we crafted our characters i started mine out as an "old world science enthusiast" high intelligence and combat was focused on a combination of energy weapons and good planning beforehand with mines while any abandonned building was searched not only for supplies but for documents and data (generally im a lore maniac in any game) to say it differently when presented with the options to restore the old parts back after the events of old world blues the option was scrapped and instead went straight to my autodock to add the big mt modules however always played as a lone wolf for a lone roaming sholar should not be attached to individuals but instead hunt down knowledge to refine and spread well this is obviously influenced by me being a biologist and a transhumanist i did see it as the optimal route to minimise suffering and rebuild

Natasel never talked bout a metal exterior id say something like a skin like substance you see synths have ( or what you will see on the next generation of prosthetics) as for the inside it is of no consiquence so long as you have the same sences the fhuman body is after all mothing more than a carbon based mashine however i will say you have done some crazy detailed headcannon on your playthrough :P

We appreciate the input! We're experimenting with some new formats, and that includes a combination of more 8-Bit episodes like "Is Kanye Crazy?" which uses 8-Bit graphics to illustrate a point mixed with episodes like this and Bioshock.

+John Smith Agreed. It's good material, but I love the ability to sort of "catch up" on more traditional philosophical concerns in a modern context. Though I do still like the new material. Maybe try mixing it up a bit between the old and new styles?

+Wisecrack I prefer this kind of videos. I like it better when you explain the philosophy behind already existing games, I end uo learning not only about philosophy, but also about games I otherwise wouldn't pay attention to.

+hanson666999 Yes, yes - we just had a bunch of these special episodes we wanted to make before game release season. The original 8-Bit guy actually has a video coming out next week.

+Wisecrack While I like these more modern game analysis of Bioshock and Fallout, I was beginning to miss the style of the Philosophy "cliff notes" from before. I would like to see one on race theory, especially the philosophy of Franz Fanon.

Ok thanks for the answer Wisecrack. Maybe you could give the current guy who analyses video games his own seperate show on your channel? Otherwise all your content is excellent! Please keep up the good work ^_^

+hanson666999 It's quite strange seeing someone with the same profile picture, watching the same video.

Don't worry, the Russian form of the Marines had the same philosophy on American capitalism.

Actually, no. The US was portrayed by Soviet propaganda as a country of corporations abusing the working class, racial discrimination and warmongering, where americans themselves were the victims. While most of the regular people thought capitalism was "kind of bad", they didn't really trust the propaganda. In fact no one cared about America or capitalism that much because the was no war paranoia in the USSR (believe me or not). No nuclear war themed movies were filmed, people didn't dig up the bunkers in their backyards, there were no "duck-and-cover" drills in Soviet schools. People just lived their lives.

0fg4 Shows how the American corporations and government are willing to go far in order to create mass hysteria

0fg4 That isn't exactly true.. I am curious as to where you got that idea from. I am not arguing with the fact that American propaganda against the Soviet Union was ridiculous during the Cold War.. Because the USA paranoia and propaganda was indeed quite ridiculous. But saying that the same wasn't going on in Russia just simply isn't true according to my research.

Nice try trump we know you love Putin

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+Wisecrack ة

+Wisecrack I wanna know the philosophy or hidden meaning behind it

+dante marshall 42

+dante marshall Easy. The world was created for a bizarre science experiment, humans are irrelevant, evolved from the cretins of a society, and the universe doesn't care in the slightest that our speck was removed in the name of an obsolete traffic system. Also, does anyone here like the fourth book?

Their other videos aren't that much better

Your human

The tutorial kinda is a philosophical statement, why isnt it?

+YumLemmingKebabs I mean...I don't think it would changed a lot of it

+Sharles Davis Kendy Also Fallout New Vegas.

+Sharles Davis Kendy Not really. Very similar themes. Fallout 1 (and 2ish) leans heavily on the phrase War Never Changes, with conflicts in the game mimicking US conflicts. The only thing different between these videos and the original 2 games is that the Enclave was genocidal only towards mutants in the same way the US has a history of genocide towards "mixed" and "lesser races". I forgot what their deal was in 3, but I remember them being more villainous for the sake of it.

+Sean Bishop No The first 2, New Vegas and Fallout 3 have very different themes.

I was talking about the first two.

+Sean Bishop I know

Chaos, not Anarchy.

Crisis of Democracy Same diff.

Jebbtube No, it isn't. As Proudhon said, Anarchy is the mother of Order.

Crisis of Democracy ...The whole point of anarchy is to have no established order or government. If that isn't chaos, I don't know what is.

Jebbtube That's not true; there's still government, it just organized in a different way.

Michał Piskorski and New Vegas, the best of them all

yup, thats correct:)

Fallout 3 is pretty shite as well on that departmant

Fallout 3 was far more linear than Fallout 4 you rose tinted glasses moron

I ain't crazy bout fallout 4. Fo 3 was better

+Josh Sancho Thanks, Josh. Amen.

That's a good point. Maybe they should be just "The Philosophies of Video Games: _____."

not even that, in one gameplay i liked how he didn't give a shit for earth and wanted to use the resources for an space program. Then for some reason in other gameplay that frustrate me and killed him in the name of Caesar

Liberal autocrat, stop making up terms

How is anarcho capitalism a contradiction? Explain

It's a fun thought experiment: is an ideology, uncontested in a vacuum (House's off-earth colony goal for example) a good ideology? Is it superior to others for having reached an environment where it is the sole contender? Has that ideology reached a pinnacle, the highest and ultimate perfect form of any ideology, and if so, would stagnation, a lack of change in part due a lack of competition be good, okay, fine, bad, or terrible? Objectively, or subjectively?

"House never impedes on the market." According to a street vendor in New Vegas, House restricts the sale of somethings to certain places, like alcohol can only be sold in casinos. Mr. House feels very Andrew Ryan/Ayn Rand like.

We wouldn't be able to get all the editions straight.

NO, PHILOSOPHY IS HERESY!

Even though warhammer canon is a minefield of stuff that got retconned , Horus being delayed by Ollanius Pious but then Pious was immortal then it was a Space Marine then a Terminator then a Custodian and rumored to be changed again, theres a lot). or stuff that is canon, but the fanbase hates and doesn't want to be canon (Matt Ward, C.S Goto for a start) You don't need to know specifics to tell us philosophy behind it all it would be really interesting to hear a in-depth philosophical look at the meanings of the warp and the primarchs etc, apart from hearing about it from that perspective it would be interesting simply because its not been done very much if at all.

Graham Post I feel that would pretty much sum up to: 1) mankind NEEDS a strict order and code to adhere to BUT..... 2) Religion is a short term solution to holding mankind together. Followed by that ever so spiteful sprinkling of a classic theme: 3) Religion will make us weaker through dogma.

Interesting analysis. I mostly agree. I do think it's a little shortsighted to say democracy resulted in the nuclear devastation of the wasteland. If you read about the history leading up to the Great War, it seems like democracy was breaking down all over the world. It wasn't the people who voted to nearly destroy humanity. Likely prewar United States and PRC were even more flawed democratically than their modern day equivalents. Which leads to irrational actions like nuclear holocaust. No democratic system has really been engineered very well. That's the problem. Similarly, no autocratic system has worked very well either. I'd rather choose democracy and freedom because I see that as more in line with the soul of humanity. If the system is engineered to be as democratic as possible (no system in the modern world is really like this) I would have faith in it.

No but it was the people who voted in corrupt leaders into postition through democracy tho

Yes, but House's goal is that he alone is the one in control. No matter how much freedom he promises, his ruthless and dedicated approach to his own ideas are the flip side to the Democracy coin. Instead of Democracy, you get something resembling a dictatorship. You give it perfume and make it feel nice, but everything is still being controlled by a singular entity who decides what's good for everyone. It's an inherently flawed system. And by the way, Democracy didn't destroy the world like he claims. The evil tests in various vaults around the country wasn't the fault of Democracy. That was hubris, and a lack of respect for human life. Democracy didn't cause companies like Med-Tek to become greedy, corrupt corporations. The old world sealed its fate by taking science, tech, and resources and abusing them never considering the consequences until it was too late. They destroyed Democracy (and everything else) themselves. The idea look similar to our approach with banks: they can't fail, because they're too big to fail! When everyone was so consumed by power and advanced technology, they failed to notice that their souls were dying. People were becoming more and more selfish, proud, and artificial. When you listen to old recordings and read from terminals, you get a glimpse into the lives of those people, and basically.. They were awful. In a way, the war was the best thing that could've happened to them a corrupt world was wiped out by the exact power they used to live their daily lives.

@@albinoshamrock8871 Dictatorship isn't inherently evil and democracy isn't inherently good, you fucking pleb. And, yes, it is the fault of democracy that prewar America was such a mess

Fluffy, The Destroyer of Worlds i could have sworn it was capitalism gone wild that causes all the problems.

+Mark G It sounds like you might also like "This War of Mine".

+JePPeL Or The Stanley Parable.

Bioshock series is amazing, a must play and all three games from start to finish are amazing and provokes very deep thinking about a lot of philosophical, scientific and historical aspects in the real world. Please play or check out a review and if you do, I hope you like them!

+Galaxy Bound I found the games boring from a gameplay stance.

+Galaxy Bound honestly, i only liked the first bioshock. it had depth that the other two were just... lacking

Lol they completely forgot

This is 360-but philosophy but they suck at titles apparently.

+ElephantPenisJr happens every time im stoned the fuck out

+ElephantPenisJr Right?

I think they had a falling out or they are taking a break

I love undertale unless you are America

What's "right" is decided by us, the majority. If you do something that enough people think is wrong, it's evil.

I love undertale what about isis

I've always wondered about that. God is on every major conflict in the world? And he's on both sides at the same time? Shit, at least he's *winning!*

Until the flat Earth society takes up arms to institute their belief... Hypothetically, haha

+Samuel Walker I really want that.

+Samuel Walker I really want that.

They covered that one in Thug Notes. Look up "The Heart of Darkness."

Matte Green and the Chroma Keys I've already seen that vid. And besides Apocalypse Now and Heart of Darkness are pretty different

Hell yeah

That's going to be sweet

We are sorry that you are in great pain. We hope that our episode helps.

+Wisecrack I almost c...completely l- *urp* -lost it wh-when Wisecrack actually *urp* replied

best fallout game ngk

It has New Vegas

NOT E NUFF.

+Drew Thompson I think its because people are more familiar with the latest installments over the the older games. Would have been nice to hear what lessons could have been taught from those games.

+Drew Thompson Yeah, I was frustrated that they spent so much time on the NCR while only looking shallowly at the NCR as it was in NV and nothing about its development.

Yeah. Fallout 3 was terribly written. The first ever Fallout is where it's at. God, the writing was great in that game.

Amerie! Had no idea you play fallout!

Way to expose that you didn't play it.

I have played it many times

TheGothicSora I played it many times too like Jack,it literally forgot what a fallout game should be and just became a streamlined less complex,ineffective shooter with rpg elements

Except that it poses the same kinds of moral questions, like when A.I. reaches identity and self awareness, are they still not human, and how you choose to answer that question affects your choices in the game. Fallout 4 was loaded with these kinds of questions, and that's just one example that came to mind immediately, but if you looked at what the story says you could find many more

Christofer Phisher But the thing is, is it just stated those questions. It didn't really illustrate those questions in a meaningfully personal or effective way.

Because Bethesda games are fun

When most people didnt play first 2 as they werent very good.. The 2nd was by far better the first.. But most people only like the old because its their childhood. Aka the morrowind trolls.

Thats because they know what an actual RPG is. Most games after Morrowind stopped being the complex, fun DnD style, stat-based Rpg and started turning into fps with Rpg elements. It started with oblivion and we can see its effects all the way to the shell of a fallout game that is fallout 4.

ZhinZhaw Gourneau take off the nostalgia goggles buddy

Nostalgia card is a low hanging fruit. Criticism should be backed by examples from the material. Like comparison of Strong to Fox to Markus, and explanation of why one is superior or inferior to the others, for example. You can use commercial success as a metric, of course, but then you'll be isolating yourself from the actual contents of the games.

Did you check back

+evilcam Thanks, dude. Don't you bail on us!!! haha

Hmm, I kind of oversold that. I did not mean I was not gonna watch Wisecrack anymore. I have to get my fix of Sweets and Wormuloid every week, or I go into withdraw. I just meant I was considering ignoring the 8-bit episodes about new games. Though, now I certainly won't, because this episode was the same quality I expect from this channel, and it reinvigorated my interest in your analysis of modern games.

not on this channel lol

We've thought about it! No promises, but it's on our minds.

Thanks! You guys are one of my favorite channels regardless.

+Wisecrack morrowind? or lost odyssey.. ff7 with the similar topic to deus ex (altho there would be more possibilities I guess, like about trauma and how memory works) do bloodborne :>

yissss! a million times yes!

MisterTalkingMachine can't wait for those swatters.

tl:dr "I didn't play fallout, but I know everything about it."

tl;dr autocracy = mustachioed leader

Am I the only one dying for a peek at how China turned out after the Great War? They developers must have thought it through

@@bhope13 it would have been amazing if they made the fallout that shall not be named based in post war China.

Andrew D YES

+Jim Smith LMAO

fallout wasn't 8bit

Right, but the title suggests retrospectives.

Yes, yes, YES!!

it's simple..... GRIFFITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's a horrible philosophy...

+Seven Billion Why? Are you some sort of pacifist, do you think "violence doesn't solve anything" ? Well wake up because you can't talk yourself out of getting mugged or beat up. You can't fight an inherently negative personality through pacifism. You fight back with the same medicine

+Myhologram : This applies the most in the wasteland

Myhologram : yes because the NCR don't have guns or anything... war is nerisary but mass slavery and genocide is not. Maybe its just me but I prefer a democracy over an oppressive dictatorship

It is clear that the player character is OP. The player can defeat all the armies single handedly, Mr. House's securitrons being an exception. So, I decided to ally with the only one having more power than me, Mr. House. And later I nuked the Legion but spared the NCR. With Boomers, kings, the 2 families and securitrons under my command, I am the ruler of the New Vegas and the wasteland. I still had yes man so it's safe to assume Mr. House could be taken down by me after the battle of Hoover Dam. In fallout 4, I decided to side with the Institute. So after becoming the director of the Institute and leader of the minutemen and destroying every other faction I can say that I am in control of the boston wasteland. So, in those 2 fallout games, the player character can become the ruler of the wasteland. So why follow some dumb factions when you can have all the power for yourself?

Mustache Power That's what I meant by saying "Why am I not suprised" x)