“Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

I liked that you mentioned that “ our guy won’t get corrupted” idea and how we can be complicit and blind even if we aren’t the active perpetrators.

"There is nothing more sacred, than saying no, to the cycle of hatred." This is great. How do I quote you from now on? The phrasing is perfect.

That was a fantastic analysis of the song. Good job. And I couldn't agree more, that if enough of us peacefully resist (or whatever you want to call it), we can actually put a stop to this cycle. Unfortunately far too many people believe in the cult of government and I don't think I will see real changes in my lifetime. But I won't stop trying.

One detail I'd like to add is that with the change in power, the terms used changed. The first cycle was Soldiers and Traitors, the next was comrades and facist. Different terms, but same effect.

Mans paid $400 to advertise this video so I might as well check it out haha

Having been a fan of Tim Pool for years, I can assure you that you nailed his message exactly.

Came from IRL tonight because of the super chat to see your video and i have to say.... not bad. i love your closing.

I saw your Super Chat on the Tim pool show and said that I had to come check out this video because this song is one of my favorites of all time really enjoyed it and look forward to seeing more of your stuff right after I go listen to Will of the people real quick

This break down of the song is probably just as important as the song itself. Good job.

Honestly I feel like the real lesson isn't that hate is bad in it of itself, it's that YOU don't know what the good of the people is. The sheer arrogance of these leaders justifies their actions, that those who "stray from the path" are evil and must be purged. A system needs to acknowledge that you can't decide what's for someone's own good, and that you cannot engineer a utopia. Build society under the assumption of freedom, if you can't then you need to give up before you destroy all we hold dear in pursuit of something only you want.

I love that you made an essay on this song. Awesome!

who else is here from timcast?

Making sure the “people” have content while on vacation, you’re a good man Charlie Brown.

thank you some much for reviewing this I'm more theological than philosophical so this helped me get a better grasp

Here from Timcast too. Great vid on this song. I have to wonder if this time the authoritarianism will be stopped or if I’m the cycle will continue on once again. So sad to see it happening across the west.

Been watching Tim since 2020, now I can barely imagine not tuning in at least a couple times a week for his 8pm show (6pm for me).

Absolutely the best breakdown I've ever seen of this song. You put into words what I have been trying to articulate for the past two years since this song was released.

Attack on titan does a good job of discussing the cycle of hatred as well.

That was well done! A wonderful explanation of Tim pool s great song. Thank you and best wishes.

Great Video & Subbed. Saw You on Tim Cast.

Here from Timcast. Love The Last Airbender and will deff be indulging in your overanalization later ✌✌

That building looks like Portland's big pink the US Bancorp Tower

Excellent video Late reply, but here from your superchat I hope Tim checked this out

I had no idea what to expect of this video but I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. 👍 Now that Tim is aware of your video, hopefully he'll comment.

Well said.

He can sing wow

Great timing on your super chat! You definitely got at least 1 viewer from it.

Just saw your super chat on IRL - had to pause to watch it. Wonderful, thank you!

Heard your superchat on Tim's show. Great breakdown keep up the good work!

The thing is sometimes when the state becomes so destructive of basic human rights, armed Revolution becomes inevitable.

Political discussion always reminds me of the one quote from the Goblin Slayer Anime. "The only good goblin is a dead goblin." With this motto it holds weight; for even if a single child is left alive it will learn, grow, and conquer.

I’m here from the superchat!

The wheel of hate is not broken, it works very efficiently. How to break the wheel is the question and what do you replace it with is the question.........

this is the exact thing that goes along my beliefs though ive started losing faith in humanity because i fear nothing will change as long as humanity continues to go down the path it is going down

What a beautiful video. 💙

I liked that song

Just saw your superchat on Timcast. Nice breakdown. Definitely a thumbs up.

Can't wait for Vaush to watch this music video.

Frankie: "I need that money, Tom" Tom: "Why? So other 8 Year olds can watch their fathers gunned down in front of them?" --The Devil' Own (1997)

Joining in on the timcast train as well. Great video!!

Tim linked your video on his Minds channel, so that's pretty cool. Hello from Minds.

I think a good comparison would be between the philosophy of this song and a song of the same name by the band Muse Muse has a different perspective and outlook on a revolution of the the people, and directly makes the point of avoiding a cycle of hatred in certain lyrics "So long as we all stay free" I think Tim Pool has a more cynical or pessimistic view of the subject matter where Muse have a more empowering and optimistic attitude.

We didn't start the fire it was always burning since the world been turning. As a famous song has taught me.

"If one comes to call vengeance justice, then such justice will only bring further vengeance. Triggering a vicious cycle of hatred. So Naruto, how would you confront this hatred in order to create peace?" - Nagato

Great video chat money well spent think u could do a breakdown of the offspring song divide by zero seems like it would up ur alley

A very good video and a great description of the songs meaning. As well as your thoughts on the subject.

Well done on the breakdown.

Moral of the story, check under the bed.

Dude, I love what you just said!

kind of frightening how he released the song like a day before the 2020 election. This song is becoming frighteningly prophetic.

This is…. Uh…….. definitely, interesting of a switch up in content. I’ll give u that man

This is pretty fucking good

the problem is that the wheel is working. it it was broken, it would do nothing

Excellent analysis! Subscribed!

This song makes me tear up.

Great video

great graphics my man.

great video, man!! much peace and love

Can you possibly make a character analysis or philosophy video about Naruto or Spider-Man I believe they are perfect for a video like these

The wheel must be broken!!

As long as Joe Rogan continues his podcast, the less crappy music we will have to deal with on Spotify.

Tim is short sighted at times. But he still has vision. I was short-sighted too, once. I was the guy kicking in the door...once...

It is truly one of the most difficult things to do as a human. That makes it one of the greatest things you can do as a human.

power doesn't corrupt everyone but no one is perfect and mistakes will be made

How did you get Werner Herzog to narrate your video?

Hate and violence are tools of the weak.

Awesome job!

Notice how the four groups depicted are colored as the four corners of the political spectrum.

I think there is a deeper theological premise here. The battle of the wills is always between good and evil as a state of dualism. Christianity is the only religion that makes sense of absolute good and absolute evil because it points at the authorities driving the forces for good and evil. All authority is given from a place of power (Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis). If a leaders power is given to them by some devil of hell than their power should be deemed illegitimate because that power is not given to them by God (Common Sense by Thomas Paine). This is why George Washington believed that the success of the American revolution was divine intervention. Hence why its different, because the power given to Washington is from God. Perhaps even so much so that an atheist like Thomas Paine recognized it as so. Therefore it depends on the driving force for power. Is it selfishness, greed, pride, disgust, and hatred? Then that is not a good leader, but someone who acts on the will of the serpent and if the society, or better yet "the people" are secular they will always be at the will of the serpent because they have no transient power to resist the temptation of murder and pride. They might as well all be Hitler in a secular society. Only God can save a poor wretched sinner, and thus the doctrine of total depravity is needed for a coherent understanding of the world (institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin). Every revolution in human history has come about through the temptations of Lucifer to indulge in pride except one. The American revolution.

The government is established to have a monopoly on violence and police its use. The government should always exercise the minimum level of violence necessary to keep the civilization intact. Humans and companies dislike competition, as it presents a risk of failure, though they enjoy the results competition brings. Such people or companies may seek to ossify their positions at the top, or prevent the naturalistic failing of those who fail to compete. In order to interfere with the natural competition of society force/violence is required, so that the government is burdened by not just governance but organization, provision, curtailing and parenting. The minimum level of violence has been exceeded, based on the will of the people, who can now grow complacent, as the government expands. It no longer is clear where the government should stop in its growth, its interference, growth in power, issuing of dictates, or in its role as a parent to its citizens. With the loss of fundamental principles corruption is allowed to sink in deep, without oversight. Once all that is Public is controlled the only place left to expand is into the Private, and the result is fostering hatred. [ Discussion about avoiding being hated ] " ... when neither their property nor honour is touched, the majority of men live content ..." - Nicolo Machiavelli, The Prince. Naturally in a democratic state animosity grows towards the government proportionally to the curtailing of liberties, as such openly antagonistic groups will start arising to lobby political will in opposition to the expanding government. It is still reversible at this point, as bloody violence hasn't yet become the only means of political discourse. When the tipping point occurs there is the creation of a new group who will compete against the government for the position of being the monopoly on violence, through the use of violence. A coup d'état if brief, a civil war if protracted. The victory of either, demanding the destruction of the other, inciting or propagating the cycle of hatred, unless the victor can be bring prosperity, liberty and return to exercising the minimum level of violence needed to keep civilization intact.

The song’s received criticism for only being surface level but I think not having the message buried in allegory makes the message easily understood and applicable to political ideologies across the spectrum. It’s a well-known phenomenon that people tend to become the thing they hate. But I also think having the song be so simple reaches people who aren’t super political and can make them at least think about how the people they vote for or are planning to vote for will affect their lives and society. It’s a song for the general population so it doesn’t need to be super deep and metaphorical.

I wholly disagree with your assessment of the song. Pool's "Will of the People" song is not about utilitarianism but of or authoritarianism. Your use of the word utilitarianism in you critique to explain the "cycle of hatred" appears to be incorrect here . It is clear that the boy protagonist of the beginning song is the representative of the "will of the people." An authoritarian leader over him explains he has the moral justification over the boy with no tangible reason given. Anger, hatred, and violence grows in the boy has his world is turn upside-down, his speech oppressed and his family murdered by the hand and decree of the authoritarian. When he becomes victorious, anger, and perhaps hatred, never left his heart as he grew up and grew old. He becomes the very authoritarian he sacrificed his life defeating and lost sight of what the "will of the people" really is and that it is not solely his. The cycle repeats itself. Tim Pool is not offering any kind of moral justifications to either the authoritarian or to the rebel. And the song does not in any way offer a solution to this cycle. In fact, I daresay, there is no solution to this age old problem. However, we as listeners can surmise a solution, perhaps, through such as utilitarianism of some kind.

Triumph of the will of the people?

From a critique level, I sincerely found this video difficult to follow for more than one reason. The voice of this video needs some vocal lessons and I just felt like there was many repetitive remarks. It was difficult to feel comfort in concentration on it, unlike the actual music video. Anyways, cheers for supporting Tim and cast! :D

Can you talk about Kaitou Joker?

are you zelda master?

Communism is siiiiick dude

Bloody hell man, maybe cut down on the cigs?

why is his voice like that

this voice...

TLDR; Good song, lays out an important issue unfortunately the authors take away is shallow and lacks nuance. Sorry man but this is a grade school logic process, violence does not equal hate, hate does not equal violence and talking your problems out only works when both sides are willing to talk. Nazi Germany would never peacefully surrender it's position without the war to force capitulation. The KKK would never willingly have a sit down with MLK. The same as the pen the sword is just as powerful and more so when applied correctly. The Red Revolution was never going to end peacefully, Lenin wanted power and even if the Czar had given it over immediately he would still have more than likely been killed along with his family. A country can have all the peace summits it wants and stay out of the world affairs, it will do nothing to change an aggressive opponent who wants a fight; China v. Tibet, China v. Phillipines, US v. Sioux Nation, US v. Russia, Austro-Hungarian Empire v. Serbia/Russia, history is littered with this lesson. So running out to start fights is as you point out correctly foolish but thinking that violence is never an option is just as foolish, an armed robber does not ignore an unarmed target. Paraphrasing King Charles of Sweden in the 1700s "I will not start an unjust war but I will not turn away from one unless my enemies are defeated".

I really hoped this was satire This is a great example of why video essays are made fun of