The Pioneers - Black and Coloured Rugby Players in South Africa (1983

The Pioneers - Black and Coloured Rugby Players in South Africa (1983 - 1993)

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Ай бұрын

During the isolation years there were very few black and coloured rugby players who got the opportunity to play first class rugby in South Africa. Rugby was segregated and there were 3 different governing bodies running the game in South Africa.
But there were some players who were able to break through and even represent the Springboks during this period, most notably Errol Tobias, Avril Williams and Chester Williams. There were other players of colour who played provincial rugby at the highest level, like Wilfred Cupido, Solly Geduld, Christie Noble, China Bell, Thinus Linee and Jerome Paarwater to name a few.
This is a part of South African rugby history that does not often get told and we hope we could pay tribute to some great players who had to defy the odds to make a name for themselves.
Enjoy and thanks for watching!

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@stephenconeglan1173 Ай бұрын

I met Errol Tobias - and, in fact, every member of the touring team - when the Springboks visited New Zealand on that tumultuous tour of 1981. That was the best Springbok team I have ever seen in my lifetime, and better than the team that I saw last year in Auckland, even though that fine team won the World Cup. If not for the endless protests, I think that the 1981 Springbok team would have beaten us at home. For context, the All Blacks had an outstanding team in 1981. That third test at Eden Park was unforgettable, a tale of two halves, with a Cessna dropping flour bombs on the field throughout. Obviously, Errol was never going to play in the 1981 test series as Naas Botha was the man with a mortgage on the number 10 shirt, and Naas was easily the best player in the world in his position at that time. I also saw Errol play for the President's XV against England at Twickenham in 1984. He was in superb form. The Springbok players in that team were in their pomp, none more so than Danie Gerber, the best center I ever saw play rugby. Errol played well when Danie was alongside him. Great to see some footage of that match on here. My brother and I met Rob Louw in the Twickenham carpark after the match. My brother regularly corresponded with Rob in those days after Rob gave him a Springbok jersey on the 1981 tour. One can only wonder how untouchable the Springboks would have been had they allowed players who were not white to play for them throughout their history. Scary thought!

@nazeem6401 Ай бұрын

It's a pity we didn't have the video technology in the 60's to the 80's that we have today. You would've seen the brilliant SARU rugby players of that era play. The '76 All Blacks went to watch the WP Saru team at the time and Sid Going said Cassiem Jabaar, WP and SARU scrumhalf was World Class. Too many of that era's SARU players' talent was overlooked by the mainstream media, which is a pity. Even today, we haven't even levelled the playing field yet (economically) and look at the talent that has been unearthed. Back to back world cup champs! We should be dominating World Rugby!! We have the numbers, rugby in SA is alsmost classless, we have alsmost no overseas imports (Unlike European national teams, who are invaded by all nations, including Saffas, who dominate as well. During Apartheid there were so many Rugby Unions and Sub-Unions - on a Saturday morning we had hundreds of games being played from Junior at 09h00 to 1st team at 17h00. In WP we had WPRU, WPRB, Tygerberg, City and Suburban, Somerset-West and Boland! Each sub union had about 20 - 30 clubs with juniors and seniors! Then you add schools rugby Coloured, Indian and Black schools had hundreds of rugby players playing every week!! When unification took place everything disappeared!!The new SARB could not control or were unable to control such a big organisation. Thousands of talented rugby talent just disappeared. WORLD RUGBY DOMINATION !!

@abuzakariyya2727 Ай бұрын

With all due respect. The real heroes are those SARU players who boycotted the system and refused to be used as window dressing. Because of them our players today have opportunity. Sport was used as a serious form of boycott and the above players that was not affiliated to SaRU were not allowed to play for their colored schools back then.

@RiaanLouw Ай бұрын

Thanks for the names! Too young too have seen these players, now I can go look them up.

@Bennusan1 Ай бұрын

Rugbyyyyyy!

@mogamatismaeeldavids664 Ай бұрын

Strange that black players who accepted the old rugby board names get mentioned .while others suffered.eg. salie lippe ,cassiem jabaar,napoleon ,majola etc ..

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Well, you just mentioned them

@deansisqoxv20 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this vid. Another excellent showing.

@mamoersebaas2654 Ай бұрын

Avril williams the uncle of chester .christie noble spoed se baas jp pietersen uncle.damn we got robbed of not seeing the likes of peter jooste and gary bosshoff in their pump.tjankyou goodness we seeing cheslin kolbe and lukhanyo am nowadays

@kurtjetson1284 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this. I have heard of some of these names but have never seen them play. This is so cool to see.

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support

@darrinroman796 Ай бұрын

@@RealRugby where can a person access the full videos of these matches?

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

@@darrinroman796 not too sure, maybe the SABC will have it in their archives

@mzanziman9150 Ай бұрын

Hennie Shields lives in Strand, one of my moms good friends. He is still a giant

@user-zl7wo9vi3e Ай бұрын

I was coached by Wilfred cupido, what a gentleman

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Very underrated player in his prime

@jasonbell1819 Ай бұрын

China Bell👌

@solutions36512 Ай бұрын

Who knew about Errol Tobias.....

@johnritchie4801 Ай бұрын

I remember him well.

@Frog13799 Ай бұрын

I remember him and Chester very well, great players

@user-sd5xe5dz2t Ай бұрын

Some great players 👏... Tobias was a genius

@SimonSeekoei Ай бұрын

Great memories ...

@IanHendricks-pz2gr Ай бұрын

What about all the true rugby heroes under the banner of SARU SACOS?

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

What about them?

@IanHendricks-pz2gr Ай бұрын

Please showcase them too, people that played rugby according to the law of day. And which slogan was no normal sport in an abnormal society

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Absolutely. Send me videos of these players playing and I'll happily update the video

@solutions36512 Ай бұрын

Was one very gifted fly half

@morrie1607 Ай бұрын

brings great memories from the Time of WP , tinus linee Solly geduld , hennie shields wilfred cupido pompies jerome paarwater

@mtutuzelihlomela7695 Ай бұрын

Norman Mbiko? Mxolisi Mekuto?

@mosesmatroos1433 Ай бұрын

No comments??????

@gerhardcombrinck7026 Ай бұрын

Dolly Ntaka?

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Het ongelukkig nie beeldmateriaal van hom nie Gerhard

@SurprisedBalkhHound-kd3oy Ай бұрын

Grootste doos

@koosvandermerwe8298 Ай бұрын

I feel for you, Real rugby. Try to do something nice and got political backlash and greviences. No good deed go's unpunished. Errol Tobias was a pioneer.

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

One thing I've learned Koos is that you can't please all of the people all of the time, you an only please some of the people some of the time. Luckily, the majority of folks supporting this channel are all legends. I don't really care about the rest

@gregvdm9434 Ай бұрын

They must bring that yellow Springbok jersey back

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

That is not a Springbok jersey

@CourtneyWentzel-gr2sj Ай бұрын

These are all great players but not the pioneers of black and colloured rugby. They will tell you themselves. There were even greater players that played for the non racial teams.

@koosvandermerwe8298 Ай бұрын

How many times did wp liga won the currie cup? Or play in the A section of the currie cup?

@jorrie46 Ай бұрын

A similar article about the white and Indian and coulerd soccer players in the same time period would be interesting, I am sure top Soccer is reserved for blacks for practical purposes. Bottom line: Culture is likely more significant than political reasons.

@jaxcoss5790 Ай бұрын

'Practical reasons' - please explain what you mean by this.

@stephanknoetze4851 Ай бұрын

During that time period? Almost certainly not!

@warrenmcgregor8434 Ай бұрын

There's a multi-episode SuperSport documentary on the development of professional soccer in SA. I vehemently suggest you watch it, for "practical purposes", i.e. informing your opinion.

@jaxcoss5790 Ай бұрын

'Coloured'?! 🤔

@stephanknoetze4851 Ай бұрын

Yes, and?

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Yes. And?

@Frog13799 Ай бұрын

I'm assuming your question is coming from outside of South Africa, the racial breakdown works like this, the Bantu/negroid tribes are classed as black, those of Indian decent are Indian, those of European decent are called whites, the coloureds are those of original khoi/San bloodlines and also those of Malay decent. During apartheid Indian, coloured and black people were marginalised, post apartheid white Indian and coloured peoples are marginalised, so in effect, the coloured and Indian folk in SA have had a really sh@t deal.

@samantha4384 Ай бұрын

Sorry this is not the true reflection of rugby in our country . Too many Sacos legends that were better than them . Normal sport in an abnormal society

@RealRugby Ай бұрын

Never claimed for this to be any reflection on anything. It's just a collection of clips of good players who did manage to break through during the isolation years

@williamarendse Ай бұрын

Shit clips you not doing justice to coloureds