Official Dev Blog Announcement: warthunder.com/en/news/8860-roadmap-results-of-polling-on-the-new-points-in-the-road-map-en Video Going Over The Proposed Changes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZqngbmamcfLcmQ.html

Yeah but gaijunk just made air RB 7.3 to 10.3 unplayable from 8.3 to 10.3. They fucked an entire BR bracket with their braindead decisions

POV you didn’t even know there was a poll

I have had enough PTSD from World of Tanks stunning mechanic

We are far away from winning, there are still many things in this game that are more important to add like BR decompression up to 12.7 for ground battles, fixing ghost shells, HE and HESH rework because they still often don't work like they should, RP bonuses for completed tech trees (supposedly in next major update) and many, many more

"Your gunner would not be able to fire for an additional second or so" While I don't love the idea of stun, this isn't what it was described as doing. The "concussion" caused screenshake and sparks to appear on screen if any crew was hit, and if a round hit >but did not kill< your gunner, the "stun" would temporarily move the center of your aim off center from your mouse within 1/4 of the screen. It did not cause any "pausing" of input. I don't love the described effects, Helldivers has a simpler method for "concussion", and RNG is bad, but overall you still technically had complete control to fight back.

I wish they also gave us an ability to select what modules crew prioritizes during repairs. Sometimes I'd rather have the crew prioritize fixing the tracks so I can retreat and fix my gun, other times I'd rather have my gun fixed first.

So, they will add what we chose, and still add what we don't want just at a later time.

I sure hope they make FPE charges recoverable then because it's bad enough you only get two fires before having to J out

number 1 thing that needs change is making a full up/down tier 0.7 max variation

nice to see development continuing to genuinely involve the community. they still need to overhaul how they handle BRs, obviously, but we’re still rolling in the same good direction we pushed this game into last year.

I voted on this pool, and i'm very, very happy, that the stun mechanic didn't won, glad that majority of the war thunder community didn't fall for that bait

thank god the majority said no on the stun mechanic. The only thing that change would achieve is to make it more frustrating to play, ESPECIALLY for new players. Cant believe there are so many people saying yes to that, absolute brain rot.

The changes should be good. More mods to set fire for that are concrete (oil tank, battery) will be good. They should increase the amount of extinguishers from 2 to 3.

Please note. The stun mechanic will be postponed for now and will return later, thats what is written in the devblog

are they gona give us more fpe and the ability to replenish it?

The stun mechanics seemed the most egregiously badly thought out imo. It makes the benefit of prioritising specific modules/crew members nullified, because no matter who you hit, all tank capabilities are down. Should you take out the engine/driver first, and immobilise the enemy to stop them getting out of sight, or focus on the gun/gunner, and stop them returning fire? With the stun mechanic, doesn't matter, because either way, tank's not moving or shooting for a few seconds. It actively reduces the skill ceiling by making shot placement less important. The game distinguished itself from its main competitor, World of Tanks, by making the destruction of enemy vehicles dependent on a complex module system rather than a simple health bar -- this proposed change takes a step backwards. 'Mini Fires' is also a straight up dumb idea. The only situation I could see it becoming relevant is when you survive a penetrating shot, you survive with minimum crew, thankfully no engine fires, but instead of the last ditch chance to recover and save yourself from destruction (one of the most satisfying things you can do in ground), you suddenly just die from tiny DoT ticks because Gustav's oily flannel got a bit smoky.

Players lose no matter what. We get bribed with shiny expensive toys and shitty mecanics. Gaijin loves telling us what we need to think. They tell us that the wait time would be too long for a better gaming experience by adding a BR or 2 and decompressing the trees. Yet they want to asd more RNG mechanics that will be most definitely broken.

I didn't even know there was a poll but there are 2 likely reasons (without typos) for it to not add to 100% - the first is that there was a third option of 'I don't know/care'/'no opinion'. The second is that they filtered out some responses from players who may have had fewer than x number of battles - either because they maybe are 'too new' and wouldn't understand how the game works at all or more likely an attempt to weed out any bot voting to try and force the poll a certain way and so only legitimate player votes are counted. 'World of Warships' did something similar when they were implementing their garbage CV changes - albeit that was also because they had an agenda and needed to toss out like 20% or more of the votes that took the 'approval' of the changes from whatever low as hell number to I think 38% approving it so they shoved it down our throats. Also - they're saying that they'll drop the stun mechanic entirely if the other changes essentially deal with the 'ineffective hit' issue with the larger tanks/simpler models. And I'd assume - because it's being rolled out in stages and because it'd be BS to muck with and start an unneeded fire in the community, that the max repair times stay the same - it's just there's more things that can be broken. Which I'm fine with basically having more detailed damage models and things that can catch fire catching fire for a small penalty. I mean - yeah that one low French heavy could be annoying hitting an open space cause the round was a little left or right but my bigger issue with 'ineffective rounds' is honestly BR placement/Valance with tanks that are way too high with way too weak guns/rounds or more often tanks with armour that probably shouldn't be at the low BR are they are, most belonging to one particular nation, with some outliers in others like UK (where I have sat laughing in Churchill's the same as when I play some Russian tanks as 3+ players shoot at me even point blank and can't punch through the armour).

Yeah the stun mechanic was the only no-go option for me.

I couldn’t care less whether stun gets implemented or not but I really was they had chosen a more realistic way of implementing crew recovery. I kind of wish we got an event or test server, and could give feedback on what about the mechanics we like and don’t. Doing a poll based on information from one dev blog seems a bit minimal for how big the changes are. Also concerning how many people STILL don’t understand how stun was going to work.

just turn of F RTRD autoaim for console and gamepad users... and everything will be fine :)

Even though the ones voted down by just over 50% are going to be looked at in the future means that the company doesn't grasp the fact that HALF of the players are against it. The point of having a poll and saying we'll look at put it in later make the whole idea of having a poll a moot point!

3:14 this would make spaa’s pure cancer

Instead of having stun, they could just add more smoke when the round explodes. It actually bring in another use case for the HE round in regular tank combat (which is just entirely neglected at the moment...)

Absolute W from the voting community for voting against the stun mechanic. Gameplay NEEDS to be prioritised over realisim when push comes to shove

There are already tank parts that are modeled, like gun sights, view ports, that do nothing but increase repair time when damaged.

With stun mechanic Gajin went slightly overboard with it. It could be just simple screen blur when large shell hits a tank, and nothing when say autocannons are hitting. That would be simplest and most non invasive way to implement it.

So does ”injured crewmembers” include the ones that are dead aswel or just the ones that are damaged but still got some health left?

hm. i knew about the changes but somehow it went by me that there was a poll ... too bad they didnt do a popup ingame...

I do want the stun/concussion mechanics, but instead of a reticle sway, it would make more sense to blur the screen and/or slow inputs like CoD's concussion grenades, especially since tank cannons are, for the most part, mechanically aimed and not very sensitive to the gunner himself moving around.

While this is the better of the available outcomes with crew stun and so on, what we will have now is grounds for a magnitude more of faulty hit detection and the frustration from it. Remember the infamous Tiger's driver port eating rounds? Now think of that but a lot more components to fuck up your shot. And healing? Why in any world is that a better choice overall compared to just a better Crew Replenishment? Also notice the wording of the notice here, Gaijin hasn't dropped the idea of stunned crew or internal fires yet, they want to tweak it and present it forth again at a later date.

3:29 boy that guy was carrying the ammo of the entire eastern front

Imagine getting stun lock by autocannon

I checked the forum but I didn't see a way to vote... I would just like new gamemodes and no I am sure they won't split the player base too much.

We got what we wanted for the most part, now let's just hope they keep their end of the deal and not backstab us later on.

This game is already a pain to play, there is a reason I left it but adding a stun mechanic would make me want to remove the game from my library completely lol

That just sounds terrible air time if the stun thing happens

Proposal sim gets rebranded as highly or ultra realistic battles with these things

I’m glad most players said no stun/concussion

I am kinda seeing them making german tanks catch fire for hits to the transmission like they did to german tanks in WoT

I think they should have add on armor for more vehicles and i also think they should let you put the armor where you want up to a certain weight limit, it would also be cool if you could use different materials like sand bags, logs, water filled jerry cans.

New modules 85.54% yes 13.6% no Heal wounded crew 85.67% yes 13.92% no Stun/concussion 40.99% yes 58.29% no New fire sources 47.95% yes 51.08% no Discrepancy could if there was an indifferent option maybe? Which could have been from another polling method, or just simple non response Fixing lightly damaged components is something that should be fixed

I think they could implement some of these features in the different the game modes, arcade should be left basic with no change to make it fun, simulator would be half of the new changes and realistic should be all the things they talked about, otherwise it will become super frustrating if it becomes to complicated, ie how will it determine a concussion or internal component failure, some WW2 tanks just crapped themselves without being hit. Modern tanks have better internal linning to eliminate possible concussions, so there's a lot of factors that it would apply to some tanks but not some at same time... Humm if they rush this it will become a major stuff up.

T90m beyblade turret would be sick

All these mechanics will make the British tech tree with its solid shot much better.

I just feel like these changes are not really anything anyone wanted at any point. It's cool that they want to develop the game further, however all of these changes would make it generally easier to kill someone, given that you've penned them. I feel like only light vehicles and helicopters need a change.

What happened to the APHE rework???

Honestly allowing recovery seems a really bad choice. It will just help campers and snipers to stay behind cover and even heal crews. In real life a crew member doesn't heal, he just survives. Reload rate is still bad, driving is bad,... you do not recover from an explosion on your face. You just survive

Nice

Ngl i thought the healing mechanic was already in the game since the vitality description for ground units says something about their recovery

One day, there will be changes to Naval and Coastal, and they'll be good....BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY.

still no air vehicles excluding ground rb mode. or increased spawn points for planes. idgaf ....

What is CAS spam :)

Ground wont ever get a win until they do something about air in game. Dont completely remove it but there shouldn't be planes within the first 2-3 minutes of the game and there shouldn't be more planes than ground vehicles

Stun killed World of Tanks. If they force it in the game in any style then War Thunder will die off. Stun is also unrealistic.

I have a question. What can I do after I accidentally lost my 4 year login streak because I was 3 minutes to late?

anyone know what the wishlist feature does when you right click on tanks and stuff?

Bro... War thunder adding stuns is basically like : lets play world of tanks

Can’t wait for the new modules to eat entire shells Also far more detailed leaked documents 😍

thank god

World of tanks stun doesn’t need to invade, you don’t want it trust me

"Going to be implemented slowly"...TRANSLATION: We won't give it to Russian MBTs until we are forced kicking and screaming because despite us claiming we are a Hungarian company our loyalty still lies in Moscow's 🟥.

People thinking stun is a good idea will just be pissed when it's implemented and we just have more unbalanced ways to die. In theory, it's not a horrible idea, but it's Gaijin we're talking about.

So the players voted NO to have additional sources of fire and gaijin is going ahead with doing it anyway lmao

Maybe rework of ux and clan stuff?

What if they made polls for their br changes 💀

You never win against the snail you just dont lose

interesting interesting

You should do a video on console war thunder. We're basically the forgotten middle child of the ports for this game and we need some recognition for the suffering we've been through 😂

"The players (mostly) win again" These were super divisive polls, some people really do and don't want these mechanics. To say that "the players" won implies that everyone won, which isn't true given there will be players walking away from this disappointed

I'm glad people mostly voted no on the stun proposal. Why would Gaijin even poll that? I don't think the 42% of monkeys that voted yes on that one even understand how fuckin horrible that would be. There are some games that concussion is fine in, but I promise you, War Thunder isn't one of them.

I just destroyed my closet.

Yeah, let's not ask AB players about air mission in ground battles destroying the game all the time with lawnmowing bombers.

So.. they cherry pick some pre-determined areas to "re-work" then give players a chance for a simple yes-no response. Are any of these (apart from crew healing) that important to the majority of players? Has there been considerable, continuous discussion about these? There are certainly a lot of areas that have constant discussion (read vitriolic argument) but are still avoided by Gaijin. It's just a bit of candy so that they can say "we conversed with the player base to get their opinion" and go ahead and do whatever they like.

All these updates are just making me worried these dmg models changes and br changes Just cant trust gaijin with models and shiet

The should have added to stop the Russian German bias in the poll

I wouldn't mind stun in Sim battles, but it would be too frustrating for RB or AB

Just want maps fixed. --------->

Everyone: Celebrating this poll thingy (the Cheating problem joining in the celebration party)

Can we please, for the love of all that is Holy, get a game mode where there are ground vehicles ONLY. So many games now where people run to get a point, J out, go into a plane and start bombing ruining the game for those that only play tanks, or they die and leave the game leaving your team really short on people. Also, the new flight mechanic for choppers and planes has made flight impossible for casual players, I always enjoyed Heli PVE, now I can barely move my chopper, it also kills low level flight towards targets to avoid gepards as it is so incredibly twitchy

Poll?

Honestly, I would love to see another pool about the stun mechanic but splited into 2 pools, 1- if you agree with the 1/4 aim off, 2- if you agree with all the other things. My theory is that the people only don't want to lose the aim when hit.

I honestly think stun COULD be implemented, but for only specific shells like HESH, Solid Shot, HE, etc, but only if it's done RIGHT, and it's not fucked. But knowing the Snail, that won't happen

The majority of players say no, so scrap the idea. Don’t keep trying to force the square into the round hole. No means no, I hate this r@pist mentality Gaijin has with shitty mechanics. Why even ask if you’re just gonna do it anyway?

I think I m the only guy who want see how it would play out with these stun and the fire one As an event or something maybe

2s38 still at 10.0 yay

I think the proposed stun mechanics would go quite well in sim battles and just leave it out of RB Also when did the mobile Sherman get its special tag back?

I don't like the healing thing, why would you vote "yes" on that?

for fuck sake do not make this game like wot , damn , its good like it is , let it be like the way it is

First!😂

wish we had stun and concussion mechanics :( tank gameplay has been getting stale

The players will never win.