So basically Sony is practically begging me to jailbreak my system

Jim ryan: eh I don't like these old games get rid of them Employee: what about our customers? Jim ryan: our who?

the young people dont realize that when they are old, they will want to play the games they grew up with and the games will be gone.

Meanwhile Dreamcast is like "hey man, what Time is it?"

There are still people playing on their original NES's, and that's 36 years old.

Emulation is morally correct

"Getting played has no limits"

There's a pretty thin line between malicious intent or idiotic incompetence.

“ Play has no limits.” Translation: “Play has all the limits you can think of after 10 years.”

This is the true death of game preservation. A fully functioning console(after battery replacement) that will still cease to play legally purchased physical games. This is beyond fucked.

Sounds like a Class Action Lawsuit Waiting to happen.

“who would use their consoles after 10 years” Every retro gamer

This is why PC and Emulation is so damn important.

So Sony mocked Microsoft about DRM and they effectively had it in their's.

If I were worried about it, I think NOW would be a really good time to replace that battery while the servers are still up.

I just bought a PS2 last month and I have no regrets.

Still gaming on my N64, Gamecube, and PS2 to this day

“Who’s gonna play this system 10 years later?” Me: *plugged in my 360 yesterday to play smackdown vs raw 2007*

I removed the cmos battery tonight in my PS3 Slim and replaced it with a new one. In Short - In my findings: - Every digital game needs to be verified online, or it won't play or revert to the demo version of it. DLC attached to physical game discs also disappears too. - Setting the time/date manually does nothing to restore it. - Reinstalling your games fresh from the hard-drive, with a new installation data, will not restore it. (I don't know about backing up pre-saved digital games/didn't try that). - We must log-in to restore the game licenses or you'll be locked out after reinstalling a new battery. The long of it, here is what happened to me: At start-up, the console prompted to reset the time and date, so I did exactly to the hour/minute and current date. I found after, I still could not access my digital games. I checked the information data, and it was blank underneath with the 'buyer icon' displaying this dash line symbol '-'. Any game I download prior, when trying to boot it up, either would state the game has a time limit and needed access to the network or reverted to the demo versions of that game. I tried deleting a ps1 game and reinstalled it with a back-up installation of that same game I kept on my ps3 hard drive (Chrono Trigger) and after reinstallation, I tried again and the same error message of a time limit appeared/you need to log into the network to verify the purchase. Reinstalling a game, does not work. After this, I tried a physical disc game with DLC, to see if it would still be there included in the game. It was Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, as I previously downloaded the two extra chapters in the epilogue ending, and booted it up; wasn't surprised to see that the DLC did not appear in the game. I decided to log into the network and every game then booted up just fine and all my DLC was restored in the digital games and back into the physical game discs data too.

-Sat here looking at my bookshelf of every generation of PlayStation games feeling suddenly uneasy.

just imagine how many people donated their old consoles to children's hospitals. kids will be so happy when their consoles stop working

Preserving games is like like preserving books. They are a part of HISTORY!!! WOAH 600 likes! This is the first time I ever got this many, I;m glad that so many people think the same way :)

Still have my OG 60 GB PS3, and tons of games for it that still play great. Get it together, Sony.

The thing that bothers me is that there are streamers out there convincing people to buy the ps3, ps2, vita and psp digital games on the ps3 before Sony shuts down the servers. They are encouraging people to do so knowing fully well that the CBOMB issue is real and we would lose the ability to play digital games on ps3.

"A kind volunteer" aka someone took apart their younger brother's PS5.

4:50 Base PS1 from 2013

10 years, I still use my NES....From 1987....and many more after that.

If i remember correctly the Sega Dreamcast has this same problem BUT modders have found ways to replace the battery with one that recharges while the system is powered on. Why not use that same approach?

I really, really, hope Sony gets a ton of blow back from this that they'll be forced to do a firmware update on the hardware to prevent systems from bricking themselves when the cmos battery dies.

I still play my Nintendo 64 and love to play old games

Sony is really starting to piss me off. All they seem to care about is the future, not preserving the past...and the thing is, is there would be no future if it wasn’t for what came before in the past. They need to start remembering where they came from, and get that humbleness back.

I still play Super NES, and Sega Genesis to this day.

"Who uses a 10 year old console" *Laughs in PS2*

Kinda ironic coming from a company who's slogan is "play has no limits"

"Riche, who use's there consoles after ten years ?", Me "I do"

I like that they made a hashtag for this. Makes it easier to create noise so they'll listen.

"play has no limits" apart from every limit we can put on you

The fact that this isn’t just an issue with A generation of consoles from Sony means that they more than likely planned for this to happen. Nice DRM, Sony!

Sony: we figured out a way to make gamers continually buy the same games over and over again. Cbomb.

I'm literally watching this while doing a Pokemon Platinum Nuzlocke on a a DS lite I've had for ten years right after I finished an Emerald Nuzlocke on my GBA SP I've had for over 15.

Who’s gonna play this system 10 years later? My PS1, PS2 and PSP still see daily use to this day.

"The PlayStation 5 Has A VERY FATAL Flaw" yeah, his name is Jim Ryan

This makes me feel like all my Ps3 games will be worthless one day... I keep ALL my consoles and games. Plenty of people go back to older systems. That's why the NES classic and SNES classic did so well.

It's sh1t like this that makes me pirate all the old games I owned on all the consoles I had over the years.

How is this not becoming a class action lawsuit?!

Glad I didn't rush out to buy a PS5 the moment it was released. Now I'm not even considering purchasing one.

One thing a lot of people NEED to consider is the fact that so many games will be lost forever. Your favorite hidden gem? It will be forgotten and turned to cyber dust. You can't count on this whole remaster/remake trend to last forever. Indie games will get a slap in the face because so many of them had to fight to just be on a major platform like psn.

The people who say nobody wants to play old games don't respect video games as an artform, they just see them as disposable products that are completely worthless once the next big thing shows up. Because I don't see the same phrase being used for old films, music, literature, or even cars!

"Why would anyone go back to play older games?" Me: *Processed to play Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on SNES*

“Oh you like longevity?” 😂😂😂😂

I come here for all the bad news I don’t want to hear, but need to

PS owners this is our "Y2K" moment >{

In Rich's defense, when you are old like us, it feels like it was actually released in 2013.

“Using their base PS1 from 2013?” 🤔 Can we fact check this

kind of surprised they used that instead of serial eeprom / flash which has been around forever

I’m not super educated in any of this at all, is it impossible for them to update the system to work without it?

The game preservation story is just sad. :'(

Playing my base PS1 from 2013 with my shirt off, let's get into it.

🤔 Can't I backup all of the data on the Playstation and play them on a different Playstation, or would I still get screwed in another way?

Makes me want to go back and just play on my ps1 and 2

RIP retro gamers in 10 years.

It's not a design flaw, it's an *EXCLUSIVE* time-sensitive upgrade feature!

Something I haven't heard you say but is happening in my case: You discovered a franchise and you want to experience the older games that came out a few generations ago. In my case, I started playing the Witcher 3 and I loved it. So I went back to play the Witcher 2 and I equally loved it.

"Who uses a console after 10 years?" Me staring at my massive collection of NES, SNES, Master System, Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Game Boy (original, color and advance) Neo Geo, Dreamcast, Turbo Graffix, 3DO, CDI, XBOX, Game Cube, Wii, Wii-U, Virtual Boy, DS, 3DS, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP consoles and games. . .

Sony: Play has a few limits

4:46 Ahh, yes. I remember buying my base PS1 in 2013. Sweet sweet times.

Can i just mod it to where i can wire to a circuit supplying a constent voltage

If you do replace the CMOS battery in a PlayStation console, will the digital games work again?

If Sony doesn't fix this problem and we end up loosing the ability to play our games, then they can keep their shiny new white box and everything else they release. Great job Jim.

I'd also like to say that I still play my NES, Genesis, PS2, original XBox etc...I also play a lot of Series X. Keeping old hardware alive is very important to people like me!

Shouldn't the console sync with NTP as soon as it hits the web?

Also I would like to ask how long would it take for this battery to die out? Like 20 years? Or it can shut down like literally tomorrow?

To my freelance Emulation developers , The Gamer Nation needs you guys more than ever.

I still break out my NES from time to time. Just for that OG feeling.

Cant you just set the clock manually? Why do you need the network for that

I wonder if the problem is a bit deeper than the time. The only workaround I can think of is to do a preventative hot swap. It sounds more like the console CMOS is being used to store an authorization key from the store.

Rich Tomorrow: I can hear ticking time bombs in my brick house.

The base PS1 is from 2013? That's crazy! I somehow got mine 18 years before everyone else.

I’m assuming you can get the battery replaced by a shop or by Sony though right?

Where can I see technical details on the cbomb? I suspect it's in the realm of possibility to spoof the appropriate response. I don't own any playstations so I can't even easily get this data myself.

At my Bachelor party a few years back my brother organized that, when we got to the hotel after a craaaazy night, and everybody was about to crash, he busted out whiskey and Red Bulls, and an N64 WITH GOLDENEYE for a 4-player, Big Heads-No OddJob tourney. Love that ol'machine.

Still using my Dreamcast, GameCube, 360, and ps3...I love retro gaming! Sony really messed up!

My CPS2 games had a similar issue from the mid 90’s

If you save everythimg to an external hard drive can you load it up on your friends ps system and play your stuff if you get cbombed???

This makes 3 systems with a HUGE flaw... and this added to Sony's recent attitude toward future and past games, it is making me think again about my ps5 purchase.

Honestly, I never would’ve thought that an American company would design something better than a Japanese company. But here we are.

I have a jailbroken PS3 with a 16TB HDD with over 250 games from PS1 - PS3... I’m not worried about nothing!

In about 20 or 30 years, hackers and modders are gonna flood the market jailbreaking these old PlayStation consoles just so that future generations can see how the games of today will look and run. They are gonna have a field day. And it's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

This are the moments that makes me disappointed and sad

10 years is usually when the nostalgia for that thing u had 10 years go sets in, im surprised sony hasnt seen the market in nostalgia

2:56 well the digital edition is dead before it even comes out

Great vid, answered a few questions that I was still curious about ..

Jailbreak coming to the rescue!

"Why would anyone go back to play older games?" Mario All Stars trilogy sold over 6 million in like 3 weeks...

I am curious. How does the Xbox keep the time when it’s shut off if it doesn’t have a battery? Or does it just sink every time it connects? Either way it seems like it would run into the same issue if it’s got to check online to sync everything up when it turned on. Although since Xbox seems to have a unified store across all of their devices, that might be less of an issue of the servers going down?

Why move on to a new product when new products are doing all this crap. And my older cartridge systems will still work perfectly fine.

A firmware update should be able to remove the check if Sony wanted to fix it... The hacking community most certainly will come out with this.

Collecting video games has became a risky business in many ways.

I’ll bet we could engineer a way to run a second battery in parallel, with a simple way to monitor the amperage so you would know to hot swap batteries one at a time.

So you have to PROACTIVELY live replace the battery with jumper wires supplying voltage the whole time like you're defusing a bomb? I get that some laptop batteries have the dead man's circuit because when a lithium battery drops below a certain voltage it will never be safe to charge again... but why would a mains-powered console do this?