Also apparently I wrote 3+2+2=5 at both 4:11 and 4:56... let's just not talk about it ok

My theory on the timeline is that Dialga was making lunch but he accidentally spilled his apple juice on the time line and he was like whatever ill just make another one over here

Honestly it’s pretty obvious that gamefreak never intended to make a cohesive timeline. It’s just odd that they decide to put old characters into new games and say that they’re x years older than they were before, because that just begs fans to try to put a timeline together

The best part is, you can see in Red's character model that Sun and Moon takes place 20 years after Gen 1. Which is perfect as Sun and Moon were the 20th Anniversary games.

Just some thoughts about the Pokemon timelines I've had over the years. In Heartgold and Soulsilver, Steven introduces himself as THE champion of Hoenn, meaning Emerald cannot share the same timeline as HGSS. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, Steven wants Wallace to become the champion, this may be a desire shared across other timelines. This would allow Ruby and Sapphire to share the same timeline as Black 2 and White 2 as it explains how Wallace is a champion in Gen 5's PWT. With that said, I don't think Emerald can be written off as non-canon since it ties into Gen 7. The Battle Frontier theme plays for Annabel even in Gen 7 implying she came from a timeline where she was a frontier brain, and of course the Battle Frontier didn't exist in RS. So its hard to accept which of the Gen 3 games are cannon and just say that even the Original Timeline is split in two. Also in Gen 5, Cynthia briefly mentions the events of the Distortion World, allowing only Platinum to share the same timeline as Gen 5. Finally Let's Go does belong in a corner as the video explains. Its so hard to fit that game to even a new parallel timeline that I'm just convinced Game Freak doesn't care anymore, and frankly neither did I at that point.

Fun fact: It’s a canon fact that every single Pokémon cartridge is a parallel dimension.

Playing pokemon: *smol brain* Knowing pokemons lore: *big brain* Knowing pokemons timeline: *MEGA BRAIN*

I kind of feel like Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon has its own little alternate timeline. The story, while largely enough is the same, still manages to have its own differences. It's not a case of Emerald or Platinum where the story is expanded upon, but it changes just enough to warrant it to separate from Sun and Moon.

I have the feeling Legends: Arceus will have a major impact on the timeline, I have a theory that that game will be the first game playing out on one of the "evil team victorious" timelines!

Nintendo and Gamefreak: I know you have a lot of questions about the timelines, but in order to answer those questions, we have to talk about P A R A L L E L U N I V E R S E S

Don’t forget that game freak confirmed that each and every player’s save file is a separate canon universe :)

I prefer the simplicity of how the manga does it. It’s all one timeline and there is a definite passage of time with the original characters aging. As far as I can remember, Mega Evolutions are introduced as this cool new thing and left at that. The remakes are also still part of the timeline, but are extensions of the original story. The best example is probably Emerald when all the main cast come together Avengers style.

You can make a Timeline out of anything, because everything has to have some sort of Timeline. So that's nothing special. The better question is: did the creators consider the Timeline and thought about it in the creation process. If the Timeline that the fans are trying to reconstruct gets as complex as this one - I think it's safe to say that the answer to that is "no".

The day this guy does Kingdom Hearts is the day he ascends to legend-hood.

People who are recommending Kingdom Hearts wants to see this guy suffer.

7:20 Time to call MatPat because where there's lore you'll find MatPat

Honestly I love the mega-arc and the looker stories. So sad to see that they kinda just gave up on that on swsh

Dialga: Hey... Hey Palkia. You know what would be funny... Palkia: If we made an alternate timeline where mega stone exist? Dialga: You know it bro! Let's do it! Palkia: Should we ask Arceus first? Dialga: He doesn't need to know! We'll be fine. *Approximately 2 minutes later* Arceus: YOU GUYS WHAT THE ACTUAL FU-

“No one knows where in the timeline it takes place” *Breath of the Wild flashbacks intensify* Ha never heard that one before

You covered a ton of content in a very small amount of time, while still being well organized and understandable. Thank you for your time making it and willingness to share. :)

0:22 could've put an Avater the last airbender reference

All we know about Sword and Shield is that it takes place after the creation of Porygon... that’s about it

7:35 In Pokémon Rumble, the Pokémon are all toys, so maybe don’t overthink that one…

I like it when game companies don’t intend to have a difficult timeline but they end up making it as convoluted as humanly possible to trigger the theorists. Like almost every big Nintendo franchise.

okay great now i won’t be able to sleep

pokemon: has split timeline the legend of Zelda series: hey thats illegal

The thing is, with different timelines that influence thousands of years, it's to be expected that slight differences in ages of normal characters in the original timeline. Because of the introduction of something as influential as Mega Evolution, something like some parents deciding to have a baby earlier or later than they would in the original timeline wouldn't be too surprising. This explains why some characters are in Mega timeline but not in original, and why some are different ages. In fact, it's amazing that they ended up so similar to the original timeline, given how much things should've changed.

Who knew there is a Multiverse of Madness right here in Pokemon.... MY head is spinning just from listening to this. How in the world did it all make sense to you. Also I am subscribing. I hope you gain more and more subscribers because you clearly deserve it and your vids are really fun to watch and so is the art.

"When they needed Red, he disappeared. But a new trainer rose to defend the region." So pretty much Ethan is the Wind Waker Link of Pokèmon. 😂 And also the Avatar.

“Pokemon soon” 3:16 yes my favorite Pokémon game

You honestly did a great job explaining it! Thanks!!!

Now we need a video explaining the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon timeline! I know it’s definitely more linear than the main timeline, but I think it would be fun to examine it regardless.

Just a correction for minute 6:20 It's not that they come from worlds where the protagonist was defeated. They come from worlds where they were never opposed by anyone. As you battle them they say stuff like "would things have been different in my world if a trainer like you had appeared?". So it's not like the Zelda timeline with a specific line for the defeated hero, they come from timelines without heroes. Some fans have the nice theory that every single cartridge is its own universe, its own version of the multiverse, and therefore canon. If that is to be the case, these evil bosses that succeeded in their worlds come from cartridges that were never sold or werent played to that point of the story.

My dude red was just searching for mew. You know, the mew that lives in a jungle. Yeah he thought he would find it on mount everest

honestly let's go doesn't have to be it's own timeline, bc unless i'm mistaken it can just happen on the mega timeline ~5 years before sun/moon, which would justify mina's age (presumably ~13 in LGPE and ~18 in USUM) and also make sense that red and blue are older. It doesn't necessarily have to happen parallel to the original gen 1 games, given both the originals and remakes happened on a different timeline

Hello pokefans, i see you have arrived at the timeline discussion us Zelda fans have been having for 20 years. Welcome! It only gets worse.

Dang, this timeline is more screwed up than Zelda's timeline

I would love to see the metroid series explained by this epic youtube channel

THANK YOU for jumping right into it instead of doing a boring intro!!

making this video not an hour long is the really valuable thing here

Type: Null being in Sword and Shield imply that it happens after the events of Sun and Moon since before that only three existed and were all locked away at the Aether Foundation.

Wally can't getter older because he have Satoshi's genes

Great channel bro, I hope you blow up. I just subbed

They had a whole manga series based on the games and they were great

So happy that you've grown as fast as you have. Your content rocks!

Upon watching this video and afterwards replaying Pokémon X I actually discovered that Professor Sycamore asks himself at one point "why are mega evolutions only in kalos" which makes me think it can also be in the non-mega timeline

Very interesting when explained like this.

pokemon conquest also has a separate timeline due to having mewtow in feudal japan so before it would have been created in red and blue

What the hell kind of time controlling being is Ash then?

There's no way in hell Nintendo intentionally made this timeline edit: ok it's game freak you win comment section

With scarlet and violet coming out with seemingly motifs of past and future, hopefully they hint more on these parallel timelines. A longshot, but would be dope.

Every player's game being its own timeline really feeds into that original Red/Blue mentality of the devs wanting to connect everyone. There's a real charm to it.

This is starting to look a lot like a Kingdom Hearts storyline now 😩

"But When We Needed Red Most He Vanished" *Everyone liked that*

This is really helpful. Back in the day I just enjoyed the games in their own right and never made connections, meeting Red in the cave was just an "Oh, OK" moment.

That's crazy that there was a timeline jump of a character from OG Timeline Emerald to Mega Timeline Sun/Moon, describes as washing up on the shore, which is the exact story of Legends Arceus, washing up on the shores of Hisui from the Diamond and Pearl timeline, along with Ichigo from BW

Pokemon Puzzle League takes place in the timeline where Cyrus succeeds in reconstructing the universe into a perfect form. That's why Pokemon Puzzle League is the only game remaining on that timeline.

Porygon can be caught in the wild in the SwSh DLC meaning it takes place after the events of RBGY/RSE. Tech is basically confirmed to be advancing, as people now have smart phones instead of PokeGears. Rotom is now incorporated into more elements of home life through smart phones, computers and more and during SM it's mentioned how they wanted to expand rotoms uses outside of the rotom Dex. This would place SwSh after SM/USUM. Now the only issue is which timeline it takes place in. With no Megas, its looking like the original timeline. You'd expect a region so heavily rooted in competition would use every edge they could to win a battle, so Megas would be used if they existed... But then again, the game isn't done yet. We'll have to wait and see if Megas are added in a later patch.

I legit didn't even know the games followed any kind of story. I just assumed every region had its own Pokémon and issues. Love your vids!

Hey Chase .... great video and amazing points ... I think Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is going to answer A LOT of your questions and please do a follow up video after learning the answer 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

Dialga must really want his own mega Evolution to let this happen

Red holding blue at 2:55 is priceless

6:38 Pokémon shord

Thank you for this 🙏🏿

Pokémon Lore: exists The timeline: "How about a game of 5D chess?"

Oras,the delta episode, that draconid zinnia said that there is an alternate universe where mega evolution doesn't exist, so that support your timeline split

I love these kind of videos. The answer is don't think about it Morty, but that's boring, and this is more fun.

Thanks for this video.

Well Wally's thing's always been that he has poor health, maybe he's got a growth defect on top

Team Plasma is just a slightly less evil version of PETA

Imagine gen 10 introduces a villain that brings all the timelines into one

I love you keep up the world ill watch everyone

This sounds like Crisis on Infinite Earths with Pokémon.

"anyone else find gardevoir attractive?"- BigJB21, 2020 "How do I delete my comment?"- BigJB21, a few minutes later

I always assumed lets go takes place on the mega timeline, but after the events of red and blue were supposed to happen (but were completely different). This explains why Red and Blue already completed their journey (that didn't include beating team rocket) and can be made to fit Mina's age as well.

5:00 You mean that Lucas/Dawn could actually be 27 during Black and White?

other universes and ultra wormholes are essentially gamefreak's cop out to no longer having to care about the timeline

Dude, I loved all your poképuns! 🤣

A good way to explain the age of Wally and the Age of Red is by saying that, due to the change in the timeline, the events of the ORAS actually take place at a different time than in the original one… while this makes it a lot more confusing, it is a possibility that ORAS could take place closer t the time of X and Y. Unless I’m missing something of course… (Which if I am feel free to let me know)

Technically, Third versions: Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, Ultra Sun/Moon should take place in a different timeline where the events happened differently with different elements.

The Japanese text about Mina's age (13~15才くらいの見た目) in the Let's Go games means she look like 13-15, not that she is, they could mean that she looks mature while still being a little girl So the Let's Go games could still be in the Mega Timeline actually

My mind is blown!! Cool to see a timeline put together like this! Couldn't the Lets Go games fit into the mega timeline?

This was really interesting. Thanks. Just for my 2 cents, since the only thing really tying gen 1 and gen 3 to the same time is that one tweet, you could easily say that lets go Pikachu and Eevee replace the originals and just take place a few years later in the mega evolution timeline in order to make the sun/moon trial Captain's age fit, particularly considering there are no mega evo versions of gens 2, 4, or 5 they need to tie into.

The Let's Go timeline makes no sense because if Red is an NPC, did he just ... not have anything to do with Giovanni?

Seems legit

Just seen this video today … SUBSCRIBED for the “And they replaces your rival with a DOORKNOB”!! Line! 🤣

duuuude when you plaid twin leaf town i got this wave of nostalgia wiiiiiicked.

When you realize red is 14 when he went to mt. Silver

Kingdom Hearts is like the shrine on top of the mountain that you have to train for life to get to, but you should take a crack at it

We do have confirmation that scarlet and violet are in the mega timeline, as Roaring Moon (paradox Salamence) has a pokedex entry that says it looks similar to a form of Salamence in another region, referencing its mega evolution

I’m watching this at 1:37 am… I should be sleeping but thse vids are to good

All I could see in the Mega Evolution timeline was “Pokemon Soon”

I can’t wait for EVERYSINGLE POKETUBER to react to this. Also abt the Let’s Go timeline this is my theory. I feel it is in the mega timeline.In the mega world Blue did not become the champion Red did as soon as he defeated Lance this is because Lance himself says they want to change it up and now Chase or Elaine will fight the champion for the throne which u couldn’t earlier so that means blue lost to Lance and then Red became bored so he left being the champion and gave that up so that he can make his own little gang called Master Trainers also it is mentioned by Blue that Pokédexes did not exist and they had to use maps and Oak used that info to make Pokedexes which means Let’s go happened before Oras as all the professors use Oaks Pokedex idea and make their own versions.Also Sword and Shield is in Non Mega timeline as there r more references to other regions like a girl in hulbury says these trains remind her of the Unova region’s trains and wants to ride them. Also nobody mentions mega Pokemon and gamefreak said no more games will have that feature so it’s safe to assume that every game from now forth is in the non mega timeline except remakes like the sinnoh ones they will have mega in them

You guys might as well refer to the Pokemon Adventure manga, which is written based on the script of the game and is endorsed by Nintendo. In the manga, the timeline is linear across all versions, and most 2nd & 3rd versions of each game are sequel to that generation, except for gen 7 where sun and moon happened at the same time as ultra sun and ultra moon. However the manga doesn't include the event in ultra sun and ultra moon post game, so we can conclude the alternate timeline is exclusive for the game only.

Could you do either a FFX video or a kingdom hearts series video? Keep up the awesome work, you’re really hilarious

The reason that Wally is younger in Sun and Moon is because (for unknown reasons) Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire take place around 10 years AFTER the time that the original RSE occur in the original timeline, and around the same time as X and Y. The main characters and Wally are born later and Team Aqua/Magma carry out their scheme later than in the original timeline. Call it a butterfly effect caused by the existence of megas if you will. The biggest evidence for this is Mauville. In the originals, Watson says he has plans to renovate his small city, but in the remakes, he has carried out his plan. You could make a counter argument and say that in the remakes the battle frontier is not built yet, but it also didn’t exist in the original Ruby and Sapphire. I also think Let’s Go takes place in the mega timeline. Mina could be 9 or 10 in let’s go for all we know, and 19 in Sun and Moon and that would check out. We have seen trainers younger than 10 before.

Here’s one that should be “””easy,””” the Mega Man timeline

I have something that could help a bit with where to place the remakes. If you look at Blue's/Green's pokemon in the Gen 7 games, they include pokemon that were exclusive to remakes where he appeared. Those being Tyranitar in FRLG and Machamp in HGSS. Adding that the Wally in Gen 7 is the same from Oras, it means the remakes (aside letsgo), all fall on the Mega timeline. FrLg happening some years before Oras (I guess?), and HgSs 3 years after FrLg.

great day to look at pokemon

Where does Pokémon go in the timeline? Asking for a friend.