I always wondered about the build quality. The automotive press back in the day spoke highly of the space frame construction. The Fiero was getting better. Too bad they pulled the plug on it.

@@AirCargoHeavy it's great build quality for the price they cost when new especially compared to other cars in the same price range back then. The budget for the Fiero was very small and it was a great car for it's budget. It does have some common issues now that they are minimum of 33 years old.

I had two. The original and the GT model. Both black with silver trim. I loved my GT so much but it was stolen or I'd still have it today to go along with both my Honda preludes. I still have my first silver prelude original body style and white prelude newer body style. I sold my bronco 67 after I got cancer and needed the extra money to not go on disability while I took a smaller paying job that let me work from bed. That was and will always be my favorite truck. Now that I beat a terminal cancer I decided to order the bronco in the orange to match the one I sold. I just hate I will not have my white leather custom seats with orange stars embroidered in each headrest. I had the old bronco rebuilt with custom orange flake with very fine holographic silver and gold flake. I'll never forget driving to Atlanta to pick up my truck and starting the rebuild. It took over 5 years. I've never bought a new car in my life but I decided since I beat a terminal cancer while fighting another cancer I would treat myself. I had two primary cancers squamous cell carcinoma that spread to my bones and endometrial cancer. My bone cancer ribbon is black and my endometrial cancer is orange so I reserved the cyber orange in the badlands with black marine grade seats, 2.7, Sasquatch package 2 door model. I don't have children or a house payment so I figured I'd splurge. I still feel kinda shakey with the market right now but I decided to sell my condo at the beach that I bought in the housing market crash of 2008 so I got it super cheap for 87K and put it on the market yesterday. They are selling for 165K so I hope it sells fast so I can have my savings account back up. I already had my other home which is smaller than my condo but a house at under 1000sf so that's plenty enough for myself. I donated my Honda CRV when I thought I wouldn't be able to drive again to another family that was fighting cancer because I still had so many other cars and couldn't drive them either. I still can't bring myself to sell or donate my other car's yet especially my original fiero. I did however leave it to my oldest nephew in my will since he's 24 and my other two nephew's are 7 and 4. I'm so glad to find other owners who love this car. I had so much fun driving it when I got my license in 90. I'm just hoping to get my new bronco before I turn 50 in less than 4 years. Lmao. They called yesterday with the bad news it would be 2022 before my truck is ready so now I'm torn with just opting to get a 2022 but it will not be year 1 so I'm torn because I think the 21 year will hold value the best but getting a 21 in 22 seems like a tough call. The businesses woman in me said to buy it and hope since I reserved it the day it released and then built it the day it become available in Jan I would get it in 2021 and then I could drive it for a few weeks and then sell it for more than I bought it for and build another one and wait to help offset the cost since it was sold out and now has roughly a two year waiting period but that backfired 😂

I worked for the Fisher Body Division of GM when the Fiero debuted in the fall of '83. The plant's managers arranged to have a red 2M4 on display that fall day when we celebrated GM's 75th birthday. Among the other vehicles arranged on our front lawn, the 2M4 seemed to get the majority of the attention.

Nice! I just bought my first antique car here in New Brunswick, Canada. I got an 84, and it’s even more rare because it’s the Sport Coupe model and not an SE. which years have you owned?!

Wow what a treasure, I'm very jealous! And I'm so thankful and honored to have you on the channel. The Ford Bronco is up next. A little vehicle I believe you're somewhat familiar with. 😉

Another grest video man. I love the 80's stuff. My childhood neighor had one and i thought it looks awesome. Do u think u could do a video of the 1980 ford truck design process and series as they went thru to 1986 ? That would be amazeing. Keep up the great work !! Thank you.

So many nameplates died off with pontiac its not even funny

There is no 1987 Formula. Jeez! It shows how little you know.

I had a new first year performance axle coup, not the economy ratio axle , that many didn't even know were available. Then I had a new Fiero Formula, only available in '88. The V6 was a much better vehicle, than any 4 cylinder model. The '88 were superb, & with a Lotus type front end suspension, & a revised rear end suspension, they were by far the best of the models. The V6 should have been a little bigger , like a 3.1 or a 3.4 , of that same engine family, but it was a pronounced upgrade from the Iron Duke or the TechIV , 4 cylinder engines. I suppose the Fiero which was supposed to continue , in '89 , with a slightly new body style , was killed because of the introduction of the Buick Reatta. & then GMs Chevy division complained that the Fiero was cutting into the flagship GM performance Icon, the other 2 seater they made until '89, the Chevy Corvette. My Formula was on par , IMHO, with the 50th anniversary Corvette I bought brand new, ordered to my specs. Adjusting for the era of course , both cars were manufactured in.

The sales dip every year for the Fiero also played into its demise. It sold extremely well in its first year, then the bad rap of the engine fires lead to its drastic sales drops throughout the years, proportionately. It really wasn't a true sports car until the final production year, of 1988. I'm sure the lact of real performance handling , until 1988 & the anemic performance of the 4 Cylinder models had customers loose interest in the vehicle too? Its design, though, is timeless & it still looks good, to this day. In 1988 , I compared it to the rather odd looking Toyota MR 2 , & the Fiero was a much better value. IMO it was much better looking than all the Japanese 2 door vehicles , like the Honda Del Sol or the Mazda Miatta , too, that even were newer , but designs that weren't as good looking & flowing as the GM Fiero. It should have been & could a winner for many years , but GMs frugalness, & Chevys disdain for competition for the Corvette ended up ruining the concept of this car , that should've have been Iconic vehicle.

Classic GM from the 1980s through today... By the time they get the car right, they cancel it... Firebird... Fiero... G6... G8... even the Monaro based GTO... And the creation of Saturn sucked money away from new car development for both Chevy and Pontiac... And now that GM is pulled out of all world markets except China (Buick) and the Americas (Chevy) it's really living on barrowed time.

@@ryanwolff4058 GM would rather sell out its own brand to the chinese than have a cool performance brand

@@misterbuklau4053 sadly the GM i knew and loved is dead. i still have a prestine 1997 grand prix SE 3800 (38K miles on it), a 2001 GTP, and a 2003 bonneville SSEi. i love GM cars from this era (particularly pontiac), but there is little GM produces today that interests me. MY GM died in 2008

Your style in these videos is so totally unique. Delivering the relevant info wrapped in nostalgia and visually stunning. Thanks as always.

Thank YOU John for you wonderful contributions to the car industry. It's an honor to have you viewing these videos... some of which you had a part in. Truly amazing. Thank you sir.

SO so glad you enjoyed this my friend.

East Coast Classics had a Plymouth Gran Fury that he made a few videos about. He went into some history, but his style is nothing like Topher, but also interesting. kzfaq.info

@@bradlemmond I'm pretty sure that was an M body the one that effectively replaced the R body.

Im looking into getting an 86 GT, I was really wanting an 88 but having trouble finding the right one. Needs to be standard, but juat curious, does the 88 GT handle well? Thanks in advance.