Romans, eating their daily brick of lead for breakfast: "I wonder why my head hurts"

Nero's own version of the pride parade every June as the new early summer event.

They were just friends in the story tho

Hey man, it ain't gay if it's Clay xD

That's why he's our GOAT

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 fate in general really did help me better understand sexuality and gender, and just how shallow it’s become due to government overreach, corporatism and a lack of media literacy

@@ghostshrimp5006 mmmm, well, to be entirely honest, I don't think Fate, or Nasuverse as a whole, is really into LGBT agenda. It may show some criticism towards gender roles (Saber for example), other times plays with real life theories (Kenshin) most of the time is just fanservice and pretty girls selling more than husbandos. But at least it always put an effort to make them fleshed, interesting characters

@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 I’m not talking about any kind of agenda, just that they understand and take a critical look at those kinds of things. Especially in FGO surprisingly, all kinds of characters that explore gender and sexuality

Attila the Hun is literally an anime girl with a laser sword. Im not sure you can get more disconnected than that

You can. You can be an alien anime girl with a laser sword. Oh wait that's still Attila. ​@@ghostshrimp5006

Honestly, reading about Hans, I feel like Fate Hans is accurate but he just hides it now, I feel like Fate Hans is just done with the shit that happened in his life that he decided to be mean to everyone

​@@CrowAkechi_The_Luminaryless mean and just brutally honest.

​@@CrowAkechi_The_LuminaryFate Hans is more like Hans at the end of his life. And embittered, disillusioned and broken man who loved too strongly for his own good. But every now and then he shows deep care for others.

Kinda like David?

To get in the throne of heroes after death?

@@hmmmooops Can't be that hard right?

@@drakonemperor144 I mean I'm already guaranteed so yeah go for it

I think the issue is how they treat their lgbtq characters, like they've joked about da vinci being an old man and such (saw this take on tumblr, their words not mine)

@@Firelava88. a fair point, but I feel like they do hard divide, “this was me in life, this is me now”! And if anything you get a little bit of ambiguity, do they the servant consider themselves the equivalent to their living selves, do they view themselves as a shadow of who they used to be with the real them long dead? The game gets squirrelly about that and Servant memories! That aside characters can be robust in their use of varied pronouns, I believe on the NA translation Mash asked of Bakin was non-binary!

⁠@@goldeyeblueYeah, but you gotta admit that they really dropped the ball with Sir Gareth and retconning her relationship with Lady Lyonesse.

@@IrascibleTankI’ll have to admit I’m not familiar with the lore and myth enough to know what was supposed to happen with Gareth…

@@goldeyeblueWell, Lady Lyonesse was Gareth’s wife in the original legend but fate retconned that relationship to make it so that they are friends as seen in Gareth’s profile.

To be fair, Caenis turned back into a woman after death, so it wasn’t that out of left field

@@shulkash8799 still though, Servants are summoned at their peak so the implication of summoning Caenis instead of Caenus feels a bit disrespectful to me

Waifus sell more sadly so screw respect or historical accruacy when you can add one more Waifu to the game.

​@@ousou78 "waifus sell more" stupid ass outdated take when male servants like Oberon, Douman, Merlin make money in the market as much 😂

@@shulkash8799 yeah but how is caenis with the body of a woman his peak? Like his whole myth is about being a man and then the once he dies the form his dead body took was the one he was summed in?

To be fair, there is also stories of Lancelot loving married women.

so what is the truth about Greece then?

@mauke90 talking about ancient Greece is a complicated subject because you have to be precise about the historic period you are talking about. It is like having to make a distinction between America before and after abolishing slavery. There are some pottery that depict homosexual acts, but there were also laws against homosexuality so strict that the penalty was even death. Also the word "pedophilia" had a completely different meaning than the one it has today. Don't forget also that some myths were written after rome had conquered Greece

If you follow Klidge, you'd know that Klidge does his friggin research and his passion for history and it's integrity is near infallible. So I am gonna take his word over some rando.

@briannafitzwilliam8184 you do you my friend

​@@nickgastronomos1211I like how when you're asked to clarify your statement, namely what the truth about homosexuality in Ancient Greece was, the first part of your response was "Talking about Ancient Greece is complicated because you need to be precise with the time period", but the first example of giving historical reference is "just like comparing points in US history as to whether or not it's pre- or post Civil War abolishment of slavery", and not a more relevant example to the topic, like 9th century BCE/late bronze era for Ancient Greece, like in the case of Theseus. I mean, I can get that if you're not as well versed in the history of other nations and their people's lives, but I think most of us can agree on the fact that all of Ancient Greece's historical views on homosexuality do significantly pre- date all of US history: pre or post abolishment of slavery is irrelevant in the subject. "There [is] some pottery that depict[s] homosexual acts, but there were also laws against homosexuality so strict that the penalty was [ ] death." Uh... You got a source for that? I already tried to look up penalties for homosexuality in Ancient Greece, and while some actions, like pederasty with boys under 12, couples of the same age, etc., were listed as taboo activities, there were no such listed penalties for any of those activities. Laws without listed penalties aren't laws, not even as customs. "Also[,] the word [paedophilia] had a completely different meaning than the one it has today." No, you're actually wrong there as the word paedophilia was coined in the 1830s by researchers investigating the pederasty practices in ancient Greece, and was invented with Greek word roots. The word is more modern, and thus, has only ever had one definition, but was used to define pederasty as paedophilia because that's how modern classification works in psychology. "Don't forget that some myths were written after Rome had conquered Greece." Can I also get a source and examples of that? The only thing I can find even remotely related to that subject is how Rome had rewritten names of the gods and their stories, but I couldn't find any myths or stories written by Romans with a Greek setting. All of which proves my point: you can't clarify anything that you claimed was untrue, because you don't actually know the subjects yourself, and when you were asked, you deflected instead. You did demonstrated that you might know some things of the classical periods, but you lack actual proof to back up your claim that "most of what he said "are not true". Meanwhile, the goat man actually goes through multiple research sources to provide entertainment for the rest of us. Tl;Dr You're nothing but a phony! A big, fat phony!