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Two problems i came cross is aikido attacks weak minded students and no real resistance training.

@@robd1329 especially the hemp ones

LMAO

... And the problem with criminals, is that they commit crime. 😆

Good

surely you need at least two things, respect and intelligence, maybe you don't have one or none. Don't blame aikido blame yourself that you don't know how to recognize.

Aiki, ki, energy, or any other supernatural power is not real. You have been conned into believing this. Aikido doesn't work because it is a bullshit martial arts that was founded on supernatural powers and religion, rather than effectiveness. Find a real martial arts, you will learn better to defend yourself in 10 weeks better than the 10 years you spent "learning" aikido. Good luck.

​@@juliusreigns4218 absolutely.. look, i don't believe in bullshit martial art like those fraud masters teach too.. as for aikido, i see aikido as more spiritual teaching than martial art.. aikido teaches the integration of mind and body in everything you do in life, and the physical exercise in aikido helps to understand and apply these teachings.. some also said that it's a form of zen meditation.. well it's kind of a rough explanation, but that's the gist.. i do agree in aikido's lack of application in real combat situation, and yes it's a bit of a scam to say by learning aikido you can really defend yourself, while it's only applicable in a highly conditioned environment.. also yeah, i do have a bit of regret for not learning a more competitive combat martial art when i was younger, but it is what it is.. Thank you for the input thou. Cheers!

you had a bad teacher, and the speaker isnt saying true

Thanks for sharing 👍

Sometimes its not bashing, its calling a spade a spade. Aikido is a bullshit martial art that has no real world capabilities or effectiveness, no matter how hard you believe in ki, aiki, chi or any other bullshit supernatural power you have been brainwashed into accepting.

Good video. Ueshiba learning/putting major finishing touches on his internal skills in China (not that anything is truly finished per se, constant evolution is part of life) is not a theory. When I studied IMA in the Taiji/Xing Yi/Baguazhang community in China, they openly said that Ueshiba studied amongst them. There's no reason for them to spin this narrative, and I was not amongst pointless narrative spinners. It would not even have been a boast to say 'we Chinese, in our wonderful Taoist exeptionalism, do a lot of nei gong practice and trained xyz great person'. They don't really care in such a manner within these communities since a style like Aikido has a flavour so similar to so many of their arts, it wouldn't be a major flex. In a similar manner, it wouldn't be an incredible flex to say 'An Indian person taught so and so personality in the West yoga or this American gym instructor taught Western style body building to a Delhi based athelete etc'. Some activities are historically bound somewhat (although not entirely of course) to certain cultures, so certain meetings, outcomes and sharing of skills are not so shocking. I digress, when I was talking about the topic of 'heqidao' (Aikido) within the Chinese IMA community, and they so casually and unpretentiously mentioned that Ueshiba or 'the founder of the style', as they said it, was a former part of the TCMA community in China, I nonetheless had tingles going up and down my spine at that moment. For it is, in any case as I recognised it, an interesting and relevant factoid. Are you genuinely saying it is strange that a man, already known in Japan as a martial arts instructor, with an almost obsessive love of exploring this or that martial idea, going to a neighbouring martial culture with similar social customs, ways of meeting, mingling and sharing around the theme of martialiality, didn't learn some of the core things, which are best preserved in that culture? Although we are often told that Japanese went to China to prove their superiority, there are definite counters to this claim in terms of all consuming, overarching and singular intent. For example, pre war Japan actually had a definite affection, even high regard for, Tang era China (the era which most influenced Japanese culture) and were very much anti Qing and Marxist culture which, ironically, they saw as a degradation of real Asian culture. Therefore, contrary to what you'd think as first reflex, the idea that Ueshiba would want to flesh out concepts within his culture from a neighbouring culture which certainly had an important historical influence/mutual sharing influence on his skillset, is not odd. One other reason, to return to a previous paragraph, why I had spine tingles when I heard this Ueshiba/ICMA connection from the relative horses mouth, is also partly because, if you know the concept of 'Chinese whispers', you realise that Chinese can talk about things which happened 100s of years ago like it occurred last week. Therefore, when you hear something of this nature from a community with a certain oral sharing tradition, you get a strong flavour of the 'obviousness' and even the 'nearness' of the event within your conversation. It is in the vein of 'Oh yeah, Morihei was over here for a cup of cha the other day, as he is interested in tea, why would you even doubt something so apparent?'

I have practiced Aikido and I bet I could drop this wanna be big mouth inside 15 seconds.

​ @871jamie i see......good luck 4 u, i think he has sincerity. i´m black belt in judô shodan 7 years, if u wish a friendly handori, i´m available. He just said his opinion, he didn`t was disrespect the aikido.

Well, i was in boxing tkd and then aikido, regardless what arts you are it really depends to indvdual how well he can apply he learn in actuL combat.

@@871jamie, No. You couldn't do shit.

I practiced Aikido for 5 years before founding/joining a fight club of martial artists only. It was a group where we tried things out in "real scenarios" 1v1 as well as 3v1 since most fights are not even. It was a very painful learning experience but the basics of Aikido held up. The fancier movements? Not at all. Later I learned Tai Chi and Xing-I and that tought me true ward off energy and completely changed my Aikido.

100%

Good video. Ueshiba learning/putting major finishing touches on his internal skills in China (not that anything is truly finished per se, constant evolution is part of life) is not a theory. When I studied IMA in the Taiji/Xing Yi/Baguazhang community in China, they openly said that Ueshiba studied amongst them. There's no reason for them to spin this narrative, and I was not amongst pointless narrative spinners. It would not even have been a boast to say 'we Chinese, in our wonderful Taoist exeptionalism, do a lot of nei gong practice and trained xyz great person'. They don't really care in such a manner within these communities since a style like Aikido has a flavour so similar to so many of their arts, it wouldn't be a major flex. In a similar manner, it wouldn't be an incredible flex to say 'An Indian person taught so and so personality in the West yoga or this American gym instructor taught Western style body building to a Delhi based athelete etc'. Some activities are historically bound somewhat (although not entirely of course) to certain cultures, so certain meetings, outcomes and sharing of skills are not so shocking. I digress, when I was talking about the topic of 'heqidao' (Aikido) within the Chinese IMA community, and they so casually and unpretentiously mentioned that Ueshiba or 'the founder of the style', as they said it, was a former part of the TCMA community in China, I nonetheless had tingles going up and down my spine at that moment. For it is, in any case as I recognised it, an interesting and relevant factoid. Are you genuinely saying it is strange that a man, already known in Japan as a martial arts instructor, with an almost obsessive love of exploring this or that martial idea, going to a neighbouring martial culture with similar social customs, ways of meeting, mingling and sharing around the theme of martialiality, didn't learn some of the core things, which are best preserved in that culture? Although we are often told that Japanese went to China to prove their superiority, there are definite counters to this claim in terms of all consuming, overarching and singular intent. For example, pre war Japan actually had a definite affection, even high regard for, Tang era China (the era which most influenced Japanese culture) and were very much anti Qing and Marxist culture which, ironically, they saw as a degradation of real Asian culture. Therefore, contrary to what you'd think as first reflex, the idea that Ueshiba would want to flesh out concepts within his culture from a neighbouring culture which certainly had an important historical influence/mutual sharing influence on his skillset, is not odd. One other reason, to return to a previous paragraph, why I had spine tingles when I heard this Ueshiba/ICMA connection from the relative horses mouth, is also partly because, if you know the concept of 'Chinese whispers', you realise that Chinese can talk about things which happened 100s of years ago like it occurred last week. Therefore, when you hear something of this nature from a community with a certain oral sharing tradition, you get a strong flavour of the 'obviousness' and even the 'nearness' of the event within your conversation. It is in the vein of 'Oh yeah, Morihei was over here for a cup of cha the other day, as he is interested in tea, why would you even doubt something so apparent?'

So you pretty much know the ways of the force

You mentioned,"Kung Fu Styles mixed in", Which kung fu Styles?

@@craigbosko2229 WuSu and Taichichuan

O-Sensei, in his latter years never referred to his Aikido as a “martial art” did he? In his younger years he trained with many more people than just Takeda Sensei. (Who, by the way, was never able to document any Takeda lineage) Can Aiki- Waza be applied to defend oneself? Sure, but like anything else, you must put in the time to make them automatic, and know that whatever your muscle memory manifests at any given time is what will either defend you or not.

Well said. Any analysis of any art is inherently flawed. It is only an analysis of a person at that given time. And then it is only from your perspective. Seeing is not doing.

That is a very clever way of putting it. I didn't know how to actually put what I was thinking until hearing it being explained in that way

@@vergilmontiero2558 when it comes to aikido it is hard to explain it in anyway, there is a lot of defect in their training. And whatever practical technique they may have they end up making it useless due to their low level mentality and weak performance.

@@alanarroyo7139 wha?? I do believe that you are and have been greatly misinformed in such a very obvious manner that whomever you have Gotten your information from the Wrong People. THIS SADDENS ME DEEPLY.

@@tallulabellmaritzamercado7718 if it makes you sad that is on you. Plus I didn’t get informed by anybody I tried Aikido myself when I was younger so you better believe that I know what I’m talking about.

Yes absolutely beautiful way of putting it. Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Thanks again for an excellent presentation. As always, insightful and well articulated. I'm currently reading Scott Meredith's material(books) and it's excellent for developing internal awareness.

@@azlaroc12 if it’s real then there should be many who use it in practical applications. It’s a martial art, if you can’t use it in combat , well then it’s not martial. MMA is highly technical and proven in battle at the highest level. MMA utilizes wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu because they work.

Yep.

@@bluwng by that regard one would have to ask what is considered many? Because as was states, there are people that can put techniques deemed useless into practical applications. I think the key point being missed is that what works for one may not work for another...so for that other the technique would be considered useless, but for the one it works for it isnt useless, it's useful. Try having a boxer throw any kick, in moat regards it'll be useless for that boxer....the other facet is a person can practice a technique for years and still not understand it if they don't analyze the technique and its purpose. Specific blocks can be deemed useless because of this problem as well.

Thanks for watching 👍

Cool... Now don't fall into the chi blasting crap... Please continue to do what you are doing without the "I have gained magical mystical powers of chi able to kill a man without touching him." Tbh, I think what you are describing is just moving meditation. It feels awesome ik.

VERY easy to verify. I'm pretty sure that you can find a boxing gym in your neighbourhood

Totally agree. Well said.

Aiki, ki, energy, or any other bullshit supernatural power you've been brainwashed into believing in, is not real. You have been conned into believing this. Aikido doesn't work because it is a bullshit martial arts that was founded on supernatural powers and religion, rather than effectiveness. Find a real martial arts, you will learn better to defend yourself in 6 days better than the 6 months you spent "learning" aikido. Good luck.

I trained at an Aikido dojo in St Louis in the mid-90s. It was a small dojo and the sensei was very patient with people. I was sorry I didn't really have enough time and money to devote to it. Probably for the best since the closest dojo to me now is 4 hours away.

So there was a pre-requisite back in the old days.

So what you are saying is that Aikido in it's nature is supplementary martial art, that put additional ideas and knowledge of how to compliment your martial arts skill and move to the next level, once you have already mastered the physical part of it. Which makes sense. In some of the latest Rokas' videos you can see that a lot of principles of Aikido are used in other martial arts albeit in a slightly different matter, which is not big of a deal, when we talk about forms, as forms very based on what your opponent have learned. And the thing which Goldenbell (and Rokas in the quotes) said as problem is that most modern Aikido schools are that they are trying to put it as a mystified inner-strength school of magic

@@dtibvgz8441 That is a very intelligent analysis, but I would only dispute your choice of the word "supplementary." True Aikido is formless, so I would rather call Aikido the _achievement_ of Martial Arts, or Budo, or Kung-Fu. I was told by my Aikido instructor, John Fields, a story of how Master Ueshiba achieved enlightenment. The story goes that he was challenged by a superior officer aboard a Japanese ship. This challenge involved live steel. If Ueshiba proved victorious, he would be put to death for injuring or killing his superior officer. If he allowed himself to lose the battle, his death would be immediate. So he determined that he would avoid direct conflict and only deflect his opponent. As the duel continued, the superior officer could not touch Master Ueshiba, and eventually tired, declaring the contest a "draw." Later on, the Master explained that while he was evading and redirecting his opponent's attacks, that "heaven and earth opened up before him." I would therefore venture to say that true Aikido is a state of mind, rather than a sequence of techniques, and the forms that are taught are only a means to that end. Aikido is not really for beginners.

This makes a lot of sense. Aikido and Taichi are often regarded as BS, but they probably taught real unarmed combat principles at some point. I ran across a few Taichi sparring competition videos, and what does it look like? Good ole above-waist standing wrestling. Aikido and Taichi just suffers from generations of mainstream marketing like many other martial arts, perhaps a bit more. Karate is more fortunate because it has real martial artists actively competing in the mainstream and passing on their knowledge, but most students won't be real martial artists: they don't condition their body for strikes, they don't risk concussions in sparring, they don't risk chronic joint injuries. It's not hard to see what would happen when such "non-combat" black belts go on to teach the next generation and there WEREN'T active competitions to remind people what works.

@@MynameisBrianZX I say REAL Karate faired better than most arts due to the fact that it’s pretty much the most straightforward martial arts there is. The same for even Taekwondo. The Olympics TKD is absolutely garbage but ITF is the real deal. Tai Chi is the most misunderstood one out of all imo. Tai Chi problem is actually finding a Tai Chi master who teaches the real art.

Aiki, ki, energy, or any other supernatural power is not real. You have been conned into believing this. Aikido doesn't work because it is a bullshit martial arts that was founded on supernatural powers and religion, rather than effectiveness. Find a real martial arts, you will learn better to defend yourself in 10 weeks better than the ever how many years you spent "learning" aikido. Good luck.

Whats "ki"?

😂😂😂was thinking ‘is it just me or is he sweating’

Thanks for sharing 👍 I can't comment on the Budo spirit. I study kungfu.

What is this about a black dragon whatever in China? Re you saying that Onisaburo was not about what he professed?

That`s im aways thought.

Honestly I think that keeping calm has more to do with the boxing part in the last sentance than Aikido (unless you did actual sparring in your aikido training). Atleast from what I have witnessed and felt myself, keeping calm is not something you learn by being calm. It is an ability to overcome adversity that needs adversity to develop. So basically one needs to get used to danger, in order to keep calm in a dangerous situation. In a fighting sence, that can't happen without sparring (even going from sparring to actual fighting is a big jump in percieved danger and hence the ability to stay calm).

@@eiko4252 Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido as taught by the founder Koichi Tohei (Ueshiba’s Only student ever personally promoted to 10th Dan) incorporated mind, body and spirit as part of the whole art. That’s what kept me calm. What boxing did was help my strategy during my calmness! My ability to predict what my opponent’s reactions were going to be in response to my feints were from boxing. I punched him in the stomach to force his awareness of my right hand. Then faked a right hand jab knowing he wound duck away from it and be right where my left hand blasted him in the mouth and snapped him head back. Suddenly he didn’t look as enthusiastic about fighting anymore. That was followed by two kicks to his groin! Shortly afterwards the fighting stopped and park ranger and Sheriff arrived.

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Glad it was helpful!

I trained in judo in college and it is legit re being able to defend oneself.

A lot of what you said sounds like the conversation with the school's Sensei who inspired me to make these Aikido videos. In Internal styles that actually teach the inner door material openly, you start with the internal training from day 1.

I practiced Aikido in the Saotome Shihan lineage at an Aikido Schools of Ueshiba in Seattle for six years. My Sensei is really good, but I wouldn't say she has "aiki" in the full sense. One of the visiting Aikido instructors was a Systema master too and his seminars were very eye opening to me. But Systema discussion is a whole separate topic in itself, because the school available in N. America is a copycat from the original Kadochnikov school. Look up the movie "Болевой Приём" (Painful Technique? -- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pcucaq-qncqqfJc.html), and you would get to see Kadochnikov himself. You can search for "Кадочников Система" on YT and find videos of him also. Nevertheless, the one thing in the video that I think is important to point out is the role of the uke. The author is right that if he resisted he could have easily confused the student-nage trying to perform the technique. The truth is that as Saotome Shihan is attributed to saying is that he can teach how to kill a man in 30 minutes, but to learn/teach aikido would take 30 years. All technique based martial arts schools are suffering from the fact that until your black belt (shodan) you as a student are merely learning the techniques, therefore uke is there to help you learn them. Once you have learned the foundation collection of techniques and demonstrated all of them during your ikkyu test (which in aikido takes 90+ minutes), and then with your shodan test (which actually lasts less time since your sensei already knows that you have learned the foundation by the time you do ikkyu, but s/he is looking for your better understanding of the techniques -- I am not gonna venture to try to explain what exactly). So the saying at my school was that shodan basically means that you can begin real training (interpret the word real whichever way you want). So if someone came to the dojo and asked how long it would take them to get to black belt, we would tell them that with Amazon Prime they can have a black belt in two days. In true aikido schools black belt is no big deal, and adults only get white, brown, or black belts, no other colors. Colors and stripes on the belts are for kids' classes. Once you get shodan, you are required to go to seminars with other teachers, so that you are exposed to a variety of sub-O'Sensei lineages. Some serious students end up going to Japan for a few years to get a broader exposure. So aikido is a long journey, and a very personal one too. I think of it as a "martial arts yoga". It is more about self discovery than being able to fight, but 30 years later (or maybe sooner) you may be able to do that too. Systema doesn't teach techniques, it teaches principles. I tried it and got exposed to folks with a variety of backgrounds. During one class I remember the instructor had us lay down, then three guys would sit on you, and your task was to try to figure out how to get out from under them. So I as an aikido student prior to shodan would never claim that I know anything, though as I progressed I did recognize the situations were if uke wasn't helping me to learn the technique, then I knew that in real situation I would do something else, and sometimes I attempted to practice that kind of flexibility of the mind. It was told to us over and over that in aikido you never try to muscle against the point that keeps you stuck, say if your wrist is grabbed, then you are not to fight the grab, but you do a tenkan or something else to go around this immovable point and then have your uke get out of balance via other means, so that then you can affect them. The instructor I tried Systema with actually was a long time aikido practitioner (I think close to the proverbial 30 years), and he said that he switched to Systema because it felt to him that it is what aikido should be. And like I said technique focused training vs. principles based training are two different worlds. Onegai-Shimasu!

"Aikido works, you don't" This is what I would wanna say to everyone who said this form or that form of martial art doesn't work. A theory is just a theory. A tool is just tool. It was there for a purpose. It was made for a purpose, and remained simply because it was proven to have served it's purpose. The efficacy of theory as in the tool highly depends on the one who's wielding it. What most people failed to understand is that for something to work for themselves, it takes a lot of hard work and thorough understanding. Without hardwork and thorough understanding of the art, even boxing won't work. They thought they're so good at it but couldn't even throw a proper punch. Nah. Art is beauty carved out of pain.

The easier part is to learn technic and the sparing is to learn to fight. Why is that so hard to understand? Many dojos don't want outsiders to see more powerful and deadly stuff.

Did you ever try a one-two-uppercut?

Thanks for sharing this 👍

Uhhh, please. Leave the fantasies of Disney and fairies. We are in the 21st century. There is no such nonsense as: "Ohh, the Aiki", the "Chi", "the mystical energy". Stop making a fool of yourself, please. If you want to try something, jump into an octagon and blow up the MMA heavyweights. Stop lying, please, where does this end !!

@@marcelochagra3307 You're probably right, but maybe you should watch this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eKecarBqrbqviYk.html

Hi , I went to a dojo that was directly setup by him. It was both mental and physical. It was real fighting, once you got past a certain point. You really get it, once you pick up swords. The movement becomes very apparent.

I thought Uke naivity was the main problem, after doing the movement once it is hard to not adapt the attack, as you know what counter you are facing. Up to a level, I visited another dojo and they hit me in the face, sometimes the uke must be cautiously attacking.

Pre-War Aikido versus Post-War Aikido... Post-War is a softer and spiritual side of aikido. Pre-War Aikido is more vital in combat with locks, throws, and Jujitsu elements in it. I've used it in bouncing and outside altercation. But I've used aikido in combination of other forms of self-defense and it worked out fine for me.

This is purely my opinion and it could be total bs since I am not a black belt in anything. But from what I have studied about Eastern Martial Arts is that Qi or Chi is a real thing, some western scientist have found a relationship between our bioelectricity output and Chinese acupuncture points. Leading some people to speculate that when people maniplute their "Qi" it is really maniplutating your breathing or bloodflow in such a way you can control where your body outputs the most bioelectricity. Now I don't think this "internal power" is what really seperates the regulars from the pros. But I think that is why many Eastern Martial Arts have a philosophical part to them that studies things like Zen Buddhism and Taoism. Maybe that is why certain aspects of Aikido are not being passed down in western schools.

@@shuheihisagi6689 exactly. By controlling your qi you control how much power and from where you want to exert it by controlling breathing and flow.

nonsense, some martial arts are just arts and packed and sold as being martial, thats is the real problem.

@@arnonabuurs7297 not exactly. All types of styles are considered martial arts. But not all styles are effective in combat situations. Some styles are aesthetic, for health, for fitness, for military etc.

@@arnonabuurs7297...the Asian masters don't "pack and sell" anything. It's fake "senseis" who "water down" or have no clue what they are teaching. If you think Aikido is a bunch of bull go to Japan and challenge the sensei of the dojo...but make sure you have very good health coverage.

in most places, Aikido is taught as living katas ... the movements themselves without explaining the biomechanics behind them ...

When an art requires enough time and training (which usually ends up being years and years) for them to just work, it means they're not practical. It takes less time for someone training in grappling arts like BJJ and striking arts like Boxing/kickboxing to be formidable opponents, because those are practical styles of combat. You don't even need that much formal training to learn how to throw a proper punch and protect your face. The problem with kung fu and Aikido is they overcomplicate combat with their supposed "simple" theoretical approaches, and it's always performed with a compliant opponent.

with you thair man relising that traing in stuf that works with my body has truly helped me as a fighter. Im a big guy strong legs and arms but have almost zero acrobatic skill (dispite hears of trying) so my style is a vary rooted one with a focuse of defence and conter actions. as one of my friends say I let my opent brake them self on me

Some schools are like water , all wet!

Thanks for sharing 👍

This has been my experience with most main stream schools. The barrier to entry is a check. The culture is horrible, side stepping the self improvement and spiritual enlightenment aspects in place of dueling. Human's are monkeys, a 10% difference is mass largely negates any advantage an opponent has. I love how demonstrations involve a seriously undersized and inexperienced opponent getting his ass kicked by someone that clearly has 10 years and 10kg's on them.

Yeah I've seen that too. In my case it was a legit school founded by the man who spread Aikido through the Midwest, east coast, and parts of Canada, he was the highest ranking person in North and South America at the time. He died and the power hungry started their long campaign to take over the school vs listening to the people that had good intentions and a solid practice. Eventually the main power hungry man Walter, an alcoholic who was caught drunk on the mat more than once (which was covered up, partially by hurting the person who called him on it) took over, instilled his toxic culture and the whole school fell apart. I joined for the last good year that place had over 10 years ago. Left after 4-5 years as the reality of the actual culture of that place is guarded from new people (which is messed up) and the folks who would tell you the truth were ostrosized. So a little different at the start but yeah, that place can't keep new members long, particularly women. But they host the largest Midwestern seminars (sometimes in the while USA) so the larger governing body of Aikido keeps them in good standards cause the mat can actually fit 150 people on it.

Attended a seminar given by Akira Tohai. He was a nervous guy. Always fussing with his hakama. Tohei sensei's students in Hawaii (Yamamoto Sensei, Moriyama Sensei, Yoshioka Sensei, Suzuki Sensei, Nonaka Sensei, Ueki Sensei)would leave him in the dust cuz Koichi Tohei always stressed Ki. At the seminar he used a lot of physical strength and used uke's who would play the game. Yoshioka Sensei, the head Aikikai guy after the split, would sometimes ask his students to attack him at anytime, any way (not while teaching an art but when he circulated on the mat assisting with a particular technique). When someone did they found themselves on the mat or bouncing off a wall. I think this was a way of training himself to always be aware in the moment 360 3D.

Didnt O Sensei also studied other martial arts throughout his life like Judo and a version of Jui jitsu? Most of the people I trained aikido with also trained other martial arts and those were the people who could use aikido. People who just trained aikido didnt seem the most effective and most likely to have their heads in the clouds

I too have trained for over 20+ years in Aikido+ (you might say closer to 30 years). It's the teacher AND the student. Unfortunately some people are just NOT going to get it, regardless of the martial art. I have been lucky. My sensei began with wing chun at age 7 (and continues), Okinawa style karate (2nd Dan) and Aikido (5th Dan). He brought in other martial art styles to cross-train with us (kicks and strikes). Keys: posture, extension, kokyu, core strength AND a block IS A STRIKE. There is your atemi. He even taught us the 1" punch & targeted pressure point strikes using various hand positions (nasty stuff). He's not your typical Aikido instructor and made it a point in saying "don't do this in other Aikido dojos". One the side, I also cross-trained for some time with a Jiu Jitsu practitioner who was trained by an ex-SAS Jiu Jitsu instructor. Interesting and a great deal of fun. Training in an Aikido dojo is a slippery slope because once you DO 'get it' a great deal of care has to be taken. There's a big difference between your typical Aikido training and the dynamic application, which we, the senior students have been trained in. I suppose what I'm trying to say is if you limit yourself to one style you won't grow as a martial artist regardless of the style you begin with. All martial arts have there limitations if you just 'train in a box'.

@@georgep3868 I agree would recommend cross training, your instructor sounds like an interesting guy. One of the best martial artist I met had a black belt in Japanese jui jitsu, was a local wrestler for a number of years, did boxing, and 3 Dan aikido. He was very effective and came up with his own style incorporating all these, which included sparring and pad work. I think my interest in Aikido ended after getting my 1st Dan. I changed jobs so couldnt train so much and started doing stuff which was closer to home like boxing and more recently BJJ and Judo. Having done these I think it's less likely that i will do aikido now. The aikido training I have done barely helps when I'm live sparring with people in boxing, BJJ or judo.

Makes sense. The instructor who spoke with me after class was a doctor. He can't really afford to be walking around with all kinds of training injuries.

I cant say I actually believe in an idea of ki outside of a simplification and conglomeration of a bunch of biological physics and reactions using ideas like the potential energy created by unbalancing an opponent and turning that energy into kinetic energy. But even with that, learning how to manipulate the body is definitely helpful and I see in hapkido which I do. But my masters noticed some things just don't work if someone is resisting. There's some techniques we could alter and there's some that just have some specific requirements we couldn't notice without pressure testing it. I have really seen the difference in the technique of big strong guys who could never do it on someone their size and small framed short people who have excellent technique, because it won't work otherwise. It's fascinating stuff.

But there is that mental part. That confidence. Even with my masters who recognize that we need to add pressure, they sometimes let me do the technique unconsciously without real resistance to make me feel good. But I really realized this when I would go to my other classes in traditional tand soo do. They almost never do locks or grappling and so I would try my techniques on them. They had no idea what to expect except that some really wanted me to fail. Sometimes I'd get a real reaction like someone on the street, or I'd get someone actively trying to make me fail. Here this helped me improve my technique. If I didn't do it perfectly I'd fail since they didn't even know how to help me. And with the ones that wanted me to fail and knew what I was trying to do, it was a great chance to train the idea of switching to a different technique when being countered in a specific way. So worth it.

Similar situation here. In the 70's troughout the 80's I had studied Karate and Judo. I'm not a very tall guy but you know muscular, very strong and in shape. I went to study Jukaïdo. All the students were phenomenals. The teacher a small guy about 5'3". He was known to have been a student of O'Sensei. He would move me around like I was nothing to the point I got mad and throw a punch at him. God was he fast and he was the real deal. Lesson learned. Thanks Sensei!

@@PR-fk5yb " The teacher a small guy about 5'3". He was known to have been a student of O'Sensei. He would move me around like I was nothing to the point I got mad and throw a punch at him. God was he fast and he was the real deal"

Nice! I wanted to attend one of his seminars in Atlanta a few years ago, but I am at the point where I need to focus on my own stuff before I go see what other people are doing

​@@GoldenbellTraining -- Hey Prince. good stuff! I think Dan would characterize aiki as chansi-jin built upon peng-jin (i.e. gotta have six directions as a foundation for spiraling jin). Having trained with Dan and Sam, I recommend you spend mat time with Dan and specifically compare notes regarding ILQ (e.g. use of body planes and circular points of contact) and Dan's agnostic internal power model. While Dan started out known for trying to put the aiki back into aikido, he's now also well thought of by a number of taiji and other ICM practitioners, in addition to karateka, MMA fighters, et al. I messaged Rokas to recommend he check out what Dan's doing for the reasons you outlined. No response yet, unfortunately -- but I'm hopeful he'll make that effort, given his "martial arts journey" is predicated on having an open mind and evolving, and Dan's specific aiki-in-MMA model would nicely knit together both ends of Rokas' journey.

I would agree with just about everything you’re pointing out; if it wasn’t labeled as a martial art, and if the demonstrations weren’t limited to cooperative or flow movement.

Thanks for your thoughts 🙏

Well... but when you use any counter that is possible against a real strikes (because I have seen several Aikido trainings and presentations, and didn't notice even ONE real punch, just some theatrical gestures instead), and answer with delivering your own strikes, then you don't need the Aikido anymore :-)

What a aikijutsu? Is it Japanese jiu-jitsu with aikido elements, or is it early gen aikido, or aikido with jiu-jitsu touch?

Never heard about that one. What is it?

@Book Knight, Aikijutsu or Aikijujutsu is very early gen Aikido

Aikijutsu is a shorter term for the style called Daito Ryu Aikibujutsu (Daito is another word for Katana, Ryu is Dragon, Aiki means a clash of energy, and bujutsu means Martial Art).

@@nathanplunkett4641 That's not entirely correct.

I would be very critical of those kinds of demonstrations. Sometimes it's a dumb student/participant trying to make the teacher look good. If you watch the full video of the clip with my teacher with the Aikido student, that guy starts flopping all over the place when my teacher touches him. When I was editing the video, I asked about that event. I heard that my teacher was very upset with that guy, and he said the video was no good. The last time I trained with Sifu, I regret that he was demonstrating something on me, and I jumped because I was expecting him to really unload on me. The previous time he brought me up, he really did push me back a few feet, but that time, he was only intending to show what he was doing to me, not everyone else. There is mindfulness training even being on the receiving end of an attack.

That's only true for the basic training. Too bad it seems like many Doujous don't go further. If you let two amateurs try an Aikidou technique full force and speed, I'm very sure that at least one of them will end in a hospital.

@@kaltaron1284 that's true for all aikido. It's a bullshit martial art that has no real world use no matter how brainwashed you are. Reality is reality bud. I wish you the best and hope that one day you will find it.

@@juliusreigns4218 If you say so. I'm glad I don't live in your "reality".

Did my workout, took a cold shower, and I started recording. I told you man, all I do is sweat in this new apartment. It wasn't like this in the other place!

@@GoldenbellTraining Hey brother off topic I just found your channel I'm 41 years old and wanted to get into martial arts What do you suggest haganai combat, jujitsu or Kali? Thanks

@@voltrondefenderoftheuniver8658 bjj is very good, but i dont know a lot about normal jiu jitsu. I do know about hapkido and if you want it to work youll have to spar with people to know when to exactly use a technique

@@voltrondefenderoftheuniver8658 Try them all and see which one you enjoy.

@@akshaykali7037 original jiu-jitsu would be better; it has striking. Today society don't fight one on one anymore. They shoot or jump you

No, Aikido was flawed by it's conception because it was always intended, like Tai Chi, to be a reflection of the inner spirit than the outer Dragon. Ueshiba was a cultist Shinto pacifist, so he designed his martial art to be focused on inner development and eschewed all of the truly effective techniques of the martial art he allowed to die with him. Its really sad because even Kano Jigoro was impressed with Ueshiba's skill as a fighter.

Can you name which studios have Instructors that only trained for 2 months?

@@anthonysicily5768 American students will insist on it. I've been asked if they could just learn it in two month and teach it. They ruin the class where the instructors are not business people and need students and need to start teaching the class like school P.E. class, instead of working with each student individually.

There are more people making teaching videos that have no clue what they are talking about or at least do not know more than can ve learned in a few weeksl There is one that i am sure watchex a video and then just mimics it in his own video and because he looks good, is in shape and flexible, he has millions of followers. He finally got challenged by too many who really know their art and,after more than 7 years of phony taiji teaching, he is making videos about something totally different. This time he is honest. But he fooled millions for years. Just like donald trump. 70 million americans believe him. Crazy society we live in where people can so easily be fooled. America is in a stupidity pandemic.

Those who can do. Those who cannot, teach.

@@nathanplunkett4641 what a fucking stupid and disrespectful thing to say. If you have ever actually learned martial arts, you just disrespected your teacher or teachers. What a simpleton.

Thanks for sharing this 👍 It still sounds like there's an issue with the curriculum. It would be a fun series to train with some Aikido people who have peng Jin.

I studied at NY aikai under sensi yamada in the 70s. It is real, but if you are jumped in the streets you better know it is combat, do whatever you must do, try not do more damage then is necessary. It you use everything you have learned in life, not just in dojo! It is a mistake to try to use only mat or ring knowledge in a street fight. Your dojo work helps with speed, stragy, fitness, and mental attitude. Stay strong bro's!

Thanks for watching 👍