Here is a link to the Wookiepedia page for Luke's Jedi Academy in the Expanded Universe Legends: starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jedi_Praxeum If you scroll to the bottom there's a "Notes and References" section that lists many books and series about his new Jedi Academy. It was a big focus in most EU books that take place after Return of the Jedi, and I highly recommend checking them out. They're pretty good reads. A particular favorite of mine was the Young Jedi Knights series, which follows the story of Han and Leia's children as they train at Luke's academy.

the thing is, uncle iroh was also the guy who killed lots of, since earlier, he was the general of fire nation

Another thing I would like to talk is how jedi became different from what they were supposed to be. In the end it would be hard for Anakin lol

Anakin really did need an Uncle Iroh!

The thing is, Iroh was also on a bad side, he isn't pure good guy. He also killed lots of people, since he was General Iroh. But either way, since jedis changed so much, it would be hard for Anakin. He shouldn't be a jedi nor sith

@@doppiovinegaro3525 that's true, if anything Iroh would have just told him to find his own path and forge his own destiny now that I think about it

The uncle iroh of Star Wars is Qui-Gon

I'm just hoping they split off into another universe. The stage is set for this to happen, all they have to do is a final push. As far as I'm concerned, the Sequels are a "dark" timeline. I'm not saying that Luke would never ever do what he did to Ben. But even if they did try take the time to explain it, I really don't think the majority of fans will want to accept that someone like him would ever do anything like that. Its just...not very inspirational or motivating. We already live in a harsh world, so we need characters like Luke to hold the line. At the very least...make Episodes X,XI,XII and have Rey or someone create a better Jedi Order. Episode IX ended and literally nothing was accomplished. Someone has to reform the Jedi, or else Star Wars will be for nought.

I get that Luke didn't like the old Jedi order and how they did things, but that doesn't mean he had to be an angry hermit living in the middle of nowhere. They ruined his character when they portrayed him as being fearful of Ben Solo and attempting to kill him. That's not something Luke would do. Luke and Qui-Gon both understood how the Jedi really should be. I wish Qui had become the Jedi grandmaster, I feel like he would have taken them in a much better direction

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Yoda counsel would've been good, if you remove the implicit fatalism in it. Accepting that everything you love and cherish including yourself will die eventually, is a good thing since you can only delay the end not deny it. The problem is that all Yoda could bring acros is: "It is easier if you let her die.". Also getting rid of your fear of loss first, so you can act with an unclouded mind, would be a good counsel to Anakin. In a way most of the weaknesses of the Order came from the fact that they tried to do the right thing the wrong way, by going the safe and easy path. Luke on the other hand probably tried to rebuild the order the way it was, because he thought it was good the way it was because noone had told him otherwise. Basically because Kenobi and Yoda failed him as teachers, because they didn't tell him of the past mistakes of the order and the flaws in their code and conduct they revealed. If you add to that, that he probably realized how the old order fell after Kylo's little rampage, it is clear how he ended up so disillusioned.

The grey Jedi philosophy actually makes more sense

@@jdubz-zm6ik most people say the grey jedi are apathetic. They use the bendu as an example cause he says he's "in the middle" but not getting involved in the galactic civil war.

You got it brother 💯

Well I mean technically Jedi could transcend death, and Sith could transfer their essence to keep on living. Non-force sensitive people can't do either one unfortunately

so basically teach you to love but to not give a shit, you cant love without attachment, that is just dumb af

Suppressing emotions isn't healthy

Yep, exactly! That was the coolest part of the EU

While I respect your opinion, I still stand by my original analysis. One side of the story is of course that if Anakin had been less paranoid and controlling, the Jedi would have done much better overall. But the other way to look at it (the one I discuss in this video) is how the Jedi also did not do very well on their side of the equation either, and they accidentally created an unhealthy atmosphere that ultimately contributed to Anakin's fall. I particularly focused on the scene where Anakin goes to Yoda for help as the best example of this. While it may be a successful philosophy to completely remove all attachment from the physical world in theory, as I showed with examples in my video it often doesn't work that way in practice. As a real world analog for this, you can imagine a child telling a parent about their worries and grief. Sure it's theoretically effective to tell the child to let go of their feelings, let go of their worries, and move on with their life because bad things are natural - but I think most people would agree that's a rather impractical and cold tact to try. That sort of response is likely to backfire as the child, unable to fully let go of all attachments, learns instead to bottle their emotions until they later explode in an uncontrolled way. Yoda basically tells Anakin "Sure your wife might be in danger, but people die all the time. Don't worry about. It's fine, just let her die and move on with your life." That might have some truth to it, but it's inherently very cold and more brutal than necessary - especially considering that Padme was still alive, young, and healthy at the time, while Anakin was worried about protecting her from very real outside threats (especially considering as there had already been many assassination attempts against her by that point). Yoda's response to Anakin was almost like a doctor telling someone "I could probably help you save your sick loved one from death, or at least help you do what you can to protect them, but I think it'd be easier for me if you just stop caring and let them die an avoidable death." Yoda even tries the same thing with Luke later, telling him to let his friends die on Bespin (even though Luke ignoring Yoda's advice and going there anyway directly leads to R2 being there to save his friends). In my opinion it would have been better for Yoda to comfort Anakin, help him make a plan of action, talk through his concerns, and teach Anakin how to process strong negative emotions in a healthy way so the anxiety doesn't destroy him from the inside. But with that said, thanks for watching the video and commenting with your thoughts. It was interesting to read and get another perspective.

@@DeepDiveAnalysis The scene where Anakin goes to Yoda for advice is literally highlighted by George Lucas in that quote I posted as the scene that expresses the core message of the entire series. It's the compete opposite of an example illustrating how Jedi philosophy was misguided. It's basically George Lucas speaking directly to the audience through Yoda. And here's George Lucas on Luke ignoring Yoda's advice in TESB: “It’s one of those things that’s risky in terms of storytelling. Basically, [Luke] screws up and everything turns bad because of his emotional decision, where he knows that he’s not ready but goes anyway. His attachment makes for a very selfish decision.” This is one of the most misunderstood parts of Star Wars. Yoda was *not* wrong in TESB. The whole point of the movie is that Luke ignores the advice of Ben and Yoda and makes a huge mistake as a result. ANH is a movie about rebellion and escaping the oppressive influence of your elders. TESB is a movie about the consequences of ignoring the wisdom of your elders. ROTJ is a synthesis of the two approaches: He makes the correct choice to save his father, but he heeds the wisdom of Ben and Yoda by not succumbing to his attachments in the process. As a result he does what Ben and Yoda wanted him to do all along but couldn't outright tell him, because it was something he had to figure out for himself. TESB doesn't make any sense as part of a trilogy if Luke is right and Yoda is wrong.

@@nineleafclover Like I said, the advice itself is good in the abstract sense. But it's the way it's applied and the context that makes it bad advice for that particular situation, and a few others throughout Star Wars as I mentioned. The prequel Jedi weren't inherently wrong, they just really lacked nuance and tact in how they applied their beliefs. Regardless of anyone's interpretation of the overall story, and despite each individual being the main controlling factor for their own paths, I think most people would agree that Yoda, Obi-Wan, and especially Windu probably could've handled Anakin (and Ahsoka, and Dooku, and Qui-Gon, etc. etc.) better than they did.

@@nineleafclover But if Luke had not gone to confront Vader he may not have learned the truth about him being his father? When did Yoda and Obi Wan intend to tell Luke the truth, was it after he destroyed Vader/Anakin? Both Obi Wan and Yoda believed until the finale that Anakin was truly gone, that Luke had to defeat him. Except Luke was able to feel the good in Anakin that was still there, and he chose to save him (redeem him). Neither Obi Wan, Yoda, or the Emperor imagined that anyone particularly Anakin could be turned from the dark side. Luke’s compassion for his father is what saved him from himself.

@@DeepDiveAnalysis I wholeheartedly agree with you, the Jedi were too cold, arrogant, and they lacked tact.

The Jedi were wrong though. That’s why Luke succeeded where they failed. Personal love is what redeemed Vader and saved the galaxy from darkness. It was the old Jedi’s blindness to this that let the empire to rise in the first place.

@@miyuedelfelt2676 Personal love almost condemned Luke to the dark side. His personal love for his friends, especially his sister, Leia. He didn’t have personal love for his father, all his father had ever caused him was pain and suffering. Despite that he wanted to save him, not out of personal love, but unconditional love. He almost fails when his attachment to Leia is threatened, and he uses his aggressive feelings to defeat Vader. At the final moment he realizes he is a Jedi, and will follow their teachings. Unconditional love, no matter what, you love all life. No matter what Vader has done and threatened Luke would not kill. The Jedi are unfortunately correct. Personal love will condemn you if you are a force user, you will try to hold that love by using force, and finally fall. Loving unconditionally, which is what the Jedi teach but fail to live up to, is the solution.

@@Molten-Throne It was Vader’s love that redeemed him, and it was Luke ignoring Yoda that let him save his friends that were instrumental to the Rebellion’s success at destroying the second Death Star. If they went with what Yoda wanted Luke would have been training while the rebellion was destroyed. The Jedi failed for a number of reasons, and they’re failure to help Anakin cope with his feelings was one of them because that “unconditional” love didn’t seem to include understanding the feelings of others. Vader’s fear of loss, and the Jedi’s inability to help him is what sent him to the dark side, but it was his love for his son the redeemed him.

@@miyuedelfelt2676 Luke did disobey yoda, and it lead to One of Luke’s biggest failures, and arguably darkest moments. Luke had no impact on the survivability of the rebellion. And Luke failed to save his friends. his friends all escaped and survived by their own will. If Luke had with yoda the same events would have played out with leia, han, c3po, chewie, and lando. Han frozen and captured, and the others escaping to join the rebellion. Luke caring for his friends, losing patience and acting rashly had no effect on the outcome of his friends. The movie clearly shows this, thus solidifying Luke’s choice as the incorrect one. I agree, the Jedi fell for many reasons. They did not validate anikans fears and help him cope with the Meta physical truth of his reality. That we cannot control all aspects of life, and must learn to let go. Anikan was told to be a statue and not care and thus lead him down the dark path understandably. The Jedi teach to be one with your feelings and let them flow like a river. But their teachings inevitably lead to stoicism, and being unemotional. Which leads ultimately to their nihilistic views, and their end because it does not validate human emotions. All vaders life he had been holding selfish love, for his mom, padme, and now his son. His fear of loss turned him to the dark side. Now after being shown mercy, Vader stops fearing loss, stops caring about his own power and abilities to save the ones he loves, and disregards it all and sacrifices himself to do what is right. Vader does have personal love for Luke, but he’s not a Jedi. He died at the end to show that while he did the right thing, he was too far gone, and this final act would be his redemption. The force needed to test Luke, and luke succeeded. Thus the force set the conditions for the sith to finally be destroyed because luke chose unconditional love, and not act with rage and hate and commit violence. And I’m not saying I agree with any of this, I think the Jedi are cultists. But in a universe with the force, they are unfortunately correct. They could be better, but at the end of the day they must teach to let go and never use the force for personal, selfish reasons.

@@Molten-Throne I don’t believe that Luke’s decision to disobey Yoda was entirely wrong, if he didn’t go to confront Vader he wouldn’t have learned the truth about him being his father. What was Obi Wan and Yoda’s plan, to tell Luke the truth, was it after he destroyed Vader? The truth is that both Yoda and Obi Wan believed that Anakin was truly gone. Except that Luke like his mother Padme were able to feel the good that was still in Anakin, which proves that even Obi Wan and Yoda weren’t right about everything. Then Luke did something that not Yoda, Obi Wan, or Emperor Palpatine thought was possible, he turned Anakin back from the dark side.