The Problem With Using 1440 Screens With a Mac

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macmost.com/e-2781 Screens with 1440p resolution are popular, but they are not an ideal screen to use as a primary or secondary display with a Mac. The 2560x1440 resolution is either too small or too big, depending on how you have it set up. A 4K screen is a better option for most Mac users. But if you are stuck with a 1440 screen, there are a few things you can do to make it look better.
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00:00 Intro
01:15 Comparing 1440 vs 4K
02:46 What You Can Fit On the Screen
04:58 Why Do Gamers Like 1440?
06:36 Screen Examples
07:13 Using 1440 Like a 4K Screen
09:30 Using a 1440 Screen Anyway
10:27 Third-Party Display Options
11:24 Resolution Isn't the Only Factor
11:51 Avoid Using HDMI
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@michalkubicki2247
@michalkubicki2247 Жыл бұрын
I am sorry, but this is a very bad advise! Anyone who wants to combine an Apple computer with non-apple screen has in fact a very limited number of choices. And as a first step, one should always look at what resolutions and physical dimensions Apple selects for their own screens. You will discover that for desktop computers, Apple has a very consistent policy with regard to DPI - that is the number of physicals pixel per inch - it is either 109 for non-retina and double of it - 218 dpi - for retina displays. Why is this important? Because unlike windows or linux, OSX doesn't employ UI scaling depending on resolution - all UI elements are designed to look and work best on either 109 DPI or 218 DPI in retina displays. One should notice, that windows is usually designed for 96 DPI - for instance, Apple has put full HD screen in 21' monitors for iMacs, while in Windows full HD is most suitable for 24 inch screens. There is actually only one combination, at present, that is common to Windows computers and was used by Apple - that is the 27 inch display with 1440p resolution. This combination was used in non-retina 27 inch iMacs - and, in my view, is the most suitable screen choice for anyone that cannot afford Apple screen at present. So why not 27 inch 4k monitors? Because you simply waste screen real-estate. If you use Apple software (Logic or FinalCut) you will discover that the bigger screen doesn't offer you any advantage - all UI elements are huge. You will have less real estate than 24 inch new iMac which has more pixels. You will, in fact, have the same experience as working on 21 inch retina iMac... I would only recommend this combination if you have eyesight difficulties and normally bring magnifying glass to your computer.
@a.accioly
@a.accioly Жыл бұрын
To hit the correct pixel density on a Mac you need either a 27 inch Display @ 1440p (110 PPI / non-retina) or 27 inch Display @ 5k (220 PPI / retina). You can, in theory, use a 40inch monitor @ 4k (110 PPI, non-retina), but one would need a 20-inch 4k display for the right retina pixel density (same screen real state as 20-inch @ 1080). Anything else will either look too big, too small or require suboptimal scaling techniques. So, IMO, 27inch @ 1440p is still the practical budget option for a Mac.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
If you mean a 5K screen at 1440, then that does look good. That's what I use with the 5K Studio Display. But definitely not a "budget" option as 5K screens are pricey.
@a.accioly
@a.accioly Жыл бұрын
5k 27 inch displays are ideal. That's what I'm running as well. My main point though is that macOS is somewhat bad at non-fractional scaling and there aren't many 4k displays sitting near the 110 DPI or 220 DPI sweetspots. As a budget option I would take a 1440p / 27 inches display over a 4k / 27 inches or 4k / 32 inches display.
@brucestarr4438
@brucestarr4438 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost Apple's 27" Thunderbolt display is 2560x1440. The next step in Apple's lineup is a 5K 5120x2880 Studio Display, which is double a 1440 display. Macs support 4K but it is not optimized for 4K.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@brucestarr4438 Apple discontinued the Thunderbolt Display 6+ years ago. Macs work best at a variety of configurations and 4K @ 1080p is definitely one of them too.
@ajlf4523
@ajlf4523 Жыл бұрын
hi sorry the off topic but i red some coments and you guys are better than me . i want to daisy chain 2x27 monitors on mac. but there are not many thunderbolt screens. is there somo options to do that with display ports but without dock or hub? e found this asus PA27AC (have thunderbolt) and it is QHD. can you guys help-? because 4k with thunderbolt are expencive so i drop to QHD but less options.
@loisskiathitis8926
@loisskiathitis8926 Жыл бұрын
A very useful and informative video tutorial today! Great information given today with great clarity! Thank you, Gary! 👏🏻❤️
@markwornom1050
@markwornom1050 Жыл бұрын
What!! Sorry but some of your comments miss the mark. 1440P is not 1/2 the resolution of 4K but rather 1/2 the resolution of 5K, 5120x2880 vs 2560x1440. Apple chooses non-standard 5k and 4.5k resolutions for a reason. That reason is to reach a Retina resolution of ~220dpi and the native DPI of the 27in, 5k iMac is 218. I haven't specifically looked but I'm sure the 24in iMac will be close to the same. They get the sharp display by doubling/combining pixels as you mention to get that sharpness and it works very well. 110dpi is an appropriate non-Retina resolution and corresponds well to 1440p and keeps Apple hardware from breathing too hard. Hover over the default resolution under the "Scaled" display settings and what does it show? Exactly, 2560x1440 and Apple will work their display magic on this to get the sharp display. 220dpi and 110dpi are the only resolutions that Apple builds their software to natively work with. If you choose any of the other resolutions, you are warned that they could impact performance and they will for anyone who does a lot of video and possibly photo editing because the display software has to work harder to calculate and then display these non-Retina standard DPI resolutions. This is definitely true on the 5K iMacs and I've personally experienced it. Also, if you "Option - Click" on the "Scaled" button you will see a list of all possible resolutions if someone is looking for more granularity and choices. This is very useful since you can't just change the scaling like you can in Windows. Your point showing the problem with downscaling from a native 1440p to 1080p is valid but a nonsensical thing to do. If you plan on using 1080p then a native 1080p display will be sharper. The problem with choosing a display for a Mac product is complicated due to the way Apple's display subsystem works. 4K and other resolutions will certainly work but anything that uses a resolution very far away from 110 or 220dpi is going to strain the display performance. 6K, 5K, 4.5K and 1440p are the best current choices for maximum graphics performance and sharp display. Search for "Hunter King"'s video from 4 months ago regarding MAC resolutions for a good explanation of the issue and a link includes an article with a calculator so you can compare various sizes and resolutions for an appropriate DPI. Users performing simple tasks such as browsing the internet or streaming will probably not notice a problem but for the more demanding users it's important to know.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
I never say that 1440 is half the resolution of 4K. It is half the number of pixels. 2560x1440=3,686,400 and 3840x1920=7,372,800. You get exactly twice the number of pixels with 4K as you do with 1440.
@markwornom1050
@markwornom1050 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost Okay, fair enough on that point.
@cumesoft
@cumesoft Жыл бұрын
Comentario perfecto, perfecta información sobre las resoluciones y como trabajo apple.. correcto
@danielbe4582
@danielbe4582 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost 4k is 3840x2160, not 3840x1920. So 1440p is not half the pixels of 2160p. Obedience!
@erikaleksandermoe1634
@erikaleksandermoe1634 Жыл бұрын
One big thing is also that if you choose a 1440p size on a 4k display the Apple display subsystem first upscales the 4k to 5k and then uses that to get a 220 dpi. That is what is causing the decrease in performance. Shout out to Hunter King’s video about returning his 4k display who explained this very well.
@gerald1964
@gerald1964 Жыл бұрын
My test shows that text is certainly more clear when operating at 1920x1080 rather than at 2560x1440 (2K, QHD) on a 4K monitor for the same font size. However, on a 27 inch monitor, operating at 1920 x 1080 results in the text still being too large - say for menus, sidebars, etc. It is more appropriate to run in this mode on a smaller monitor - say 24 inches. For example, the LG 24 inch monitor that is made for Mac operates in this mode.
@eplugplay8409
@eplugplay8409 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. As a mac and pc user I am torn between a 1440p and 4k display. I’m more confident on now getting the 4k display for future proofing as 4k will become the new standard soon with so many powerful GPUs coming out in the next year or two and now due to your explanation for mac users. Thanks!
@shahjahanravjee8639
@shahjahanravjee8639 24 күн бұрын
@@eplugplay8409 I recently tried a dell 27 inch 4k monitor with MacBook pro. It looks great at 1440p as recommended here. I need a 34 inch so will try a 34 inch at 1440p and see if i am comfortable with the display
@mlodyme3675
@mlodyme3675 Жыл бұрын
This is a good video, but it misses some key points. About 1-2 months ago, I went through this exercise to get an external display for my MBA M2. I opted for high quality 1440P 27" Dell U2722DE screen. I had multiple 27" iMac's - 1440p and 5K and also had 1080P 27" displays, and I think, unless you go with a 5K display, 1440P seems like the best compromise. 4K display only gets you effective 1080P resolution which is way too low for 27" screen. I believe 1080P is acceptable for 22-24", but not for 27". Ever wonder why Apple's 27" screens are 5K? They are 5K to give people the 1440P effective HiDPI screen estate, not 1080P. I would rather have a slightly less sharp 1440P than 1080P HiDPI with significantly less screen to work. Also, saying that 1440P is small on 27" is a bit of a stretch since that is what Studio Display is and all 5K iMac's - 4K native on 27" is small, but not 1440P.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Note that 1080p on a 4K is still 4K. You still see images, text and other things in 4K. It is just the interface is drawn at the SIZE of 1080p. You are still using every pixel.
@hinokamikoko
@hinokamikoko Жыл бұрын
@@macmost i don't know much about this stuff, but watching my mac mini m1 on my Asus 27" VG27AQ(1440p) is great. and it still looks great also on my 4K 28" AOC U28P2G6B. what ive observed differently was on system preferences>display, where AOC display i have to choose the option of a scaled display, while Asus display is at default display.
@edimarrodrigrove3377
@edimarrodrigrove3377 Жыл бұрын
1440p 27" is small because is not retina like a 5K scaled at 1440p... And a 4K scaled at 1080p is way, way sharper than native 1440p.
@user-jv9qz2bu1r
@user-jv9qz2bu1r Жыл бұрын
when a 21" screen is considered small LOL
@prasannarathnayaka5037
@prasannarathnayaka5037 Жыл бұрын
didn't you get any fuzzy/blurry text on the external screen?? (1440P)
@Maxfli82
@Maxfli82 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. One of the most clear explanations I’ve seen on this topic.
@HowieIsaacks
@HowieIsaacks Жыл бұрын
I used a 2560x1440 display with my late 2012 Mac mini. It worked great. At the time I bought it Apple was still selling their Thunderbolt 27-inch displays, which used the same resolution. Because my display was 25 inches instead of 27, the pixel density was better on my 25-inch display. My cheaper display was actually better for viewing content. I had to use DisplayPort. Using the normal HDMI at the time would only give me 1920x1080. 4K displays were still new at the time and they wouldn't have worked on my Mac mini anyway.
@AlessandroCalzaStudio
@AlessandroCalzaStudio Жыл бұрын
problem is nobody (professional at least) gets a 4k display to have it in retina @HD, but to have a more space for UI. So 2k becomes the best solution since you have more room but the UI is still usable, while in 4k becomes really tiny especially on a 27.
@guilloguzmanl
@guilloguzmanl Жыл бұрын
I have had the 27" Apple Thunderbolt display with my Mac mini for like 3 years and the resolution is great, I love how much space I have for my windows and text is just the right size.
@BoomerBlogging
@BoomerBlogging Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gary. I have a Macbook Pro 16 (2019) that I view on a 27" 4K monitor. Not sure if what I do works with all Macs - but - I prefer to run at a resolution of 2304x1296 which I get to thru SYSTEM SETTINGS > DISPLAYS > hold down the OPTION key while clicking on SCALED. This brings up a Resolutions Menu to choose from which I turn on the All Resolutions button and then choose. Some resolutions are offered at "low resolution" - which I avoid. Also to prevent flickering I ensure my display is set to 60 Hz and not the other offering of 45-60 Hz variable.
@frhwebmaster
@frhwebmaster Жыл бұрын
@SteveWhitley - I did this moments ago with the dual AOC (U2790VQ) that I am sporting. AMAZING! Thank You for the tip!
@sinlokemp
@sinlokemp Жыл бұрын
Wow! this is a secret trick. no software needed! Thank You
@Parapsyglider
@Parapsyglider Жыл бұрын
Does this affect on the performance?
@BoomerBlogging
@BoomerBlogging Жыл бұрын
@@Parapsyglider - not sure - Gary would know this much better than I?
@sinlokemp
@sinlokemp Жыл бұрын
@@Parapsyglider So far it looks like performance has improved.
@obstmi
@obstmi Жыл бұрын
I do not completely agree. MacOS works internally with 110ppi (non-Retina) or 220ppi (Retina). For Monitors with other resolutions scaling of the ui is necessary, which can lead to artifacts. So I personally prefer for 27" the 2k resolution (which matches the non-Retina resolution without scaling), it's more comfortable for my eyes while e.g. scrolling. The optimum would be 5k, which matches with 218ppi Retina-UI.
@llaprad1
@llaprad1 Жыл бұрын
My experience: 1440p on 32” (@ default) for over 5 years, “upgraded” to 4k for like a month. Then went back to 1440p. With a 32” monitor it really is the sweet spot for macs for me (adobe cc).
@adamjones8218
@adamjones8218 Жыл бұрын
Because that's the scaling that MacOS prefers below 5K at 110 dpi. For appropriate scaling on a Mac 110dpi or 220 dpi (5K) is what Mac's prefer and scale the best with.
@cjc363636
@cjc363636 Жыл бұрын
My m1 mini is the main 'box' for my 65" 4K tv, and I absolutely love it. It is great for computer tasks, and 4k video. (And I set my display for the larger 'virtual' pixels as well, and it looks great w/ texts).
@rblossey
@rblossey Жыл бұрын
I had my doubts about how the scaling would work, but the day I brought my M1 Mac Mini home (my first Mac in 29 years! 😲), the very first thing I did was hook it up to my 55" 4K TV...what an experience that was! 😁 It's not something I do much now-I have a more "specialized" dual-HP monitor setup and a big desk that works with both my Mac mini & "mini" HP ProDesk-but I'm considering getting a 30-ft HDMI cable + a cheap switcher just so I can bring that back whenever I feel like it :) It really looks great.
@MegaMacReal
@MegaMacReal Жыл бұрын
How far away from your head is the 65"?
@Roger-xb7gg
@Roger-xb7gg Жыл бұрын
1440p looks fine. Apple's Studio Display is 5k (5120x2880) AKA 1440p*2, with double the pixel density for the "retina" effect. Otherwise, a regular 27" 1440p at 1x pixel density would look the same. The sizes of all the windows and text and apps would be the exact same, just non-retina.
@justsomeguy1074
@justsomeguy1074 5 ай бұрын
Retina has much sharper text than 1440 non scaled!
@faisalxkhan007
@faisalxkhan007 11 ай бұрын
The most amazing explanation on various display resolutions particularly for Macs.. i was searching for a lots of display option but this video clarified everything. THanks a lot Gary !! 😇
@lawrencefung3934
@lawrencefung3934 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, makes sense. FYI, I'm running 13.4.1 (Ventura) and noticed there is a toggle button to "Show all resolutions" in Display Preferences - HOW-TO - (1) Go to the Advanced settings and turn on "Show resolutions as list". (2) Then click Done to close the pop-up modal and click the "Show all resolutions" toggle button. This will give you access to more of the in-between resolutions (with option for "low resolution" and regular (OS scaled)). Hope this helps others in setting up their monitors and testing the various resolutions!
@erikaleksandermoe1634
@erikaleksandermoe1634 Жыл бұрын
Personally I love the native 1440p resolution on my 49 inch Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 (equivalent to two 27 inch 1440p displays side by side) in my Mac. The windows and menu bar are very comfortably sized for my needs.
@Rhythmattica
@Rhythmattica 7 ай бұрын
Mac Pro. 5.1.. Radeon 580 XFX MVP flashed... Running a 24" 1920 x 1200 + a Q29 5120 x 1440.. Lovin' it.
@user-ti2xi9bd4u
@user-ti2xi9bd4u Жыл бұрын
You explained very well, thumbs up! I have a 2k 32inch 165hz LG display. I used HDMI cable and it sucked, I now using USB-C to DP. Running at 2k with 144hz! 🎉😊😊
@peterwan小P
@peterwan小P Жыл бұрын
5:52 the main reason why I choose 1440p instead of 4k is that it is way better than 1k with just enough details (not too les) while having half the pixel count as the 4k screen. this allows game to run at native resolution while achieving more frames when compared with an 4k screen.
@ramirotell
@ramirotell Жыл бұрын
In the case of a macbook pro m1 with 32 GB memory will performance be affected by having connected 1 or 2 27" 4K display scaled to 1920x1080?
@sidrolf
@sidrolf Жыл бұрын
What a wonderfully detailed but simple explanation!
@oskarsfreimanis8192
@oskarsfreimanis8192 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for information.
@ppjk5203
@ppjk5203 Жыл бұрын
The bottom line here is this is only really an issue if you need to scale to hd ui because native 1440 is too small for you. 4k will obviously still offer superior clarity compared to 1440p, but the fuzziness is specifically related to the hd scaling and not an inherent problem of the 1440p resolution.
@mrwriter86
@mrwriter86 Жыл бұрын
Gary, you really do go the extra mile with your content. Translating the technical details in to simple language and visuals helps to cover a wide demographic of viewers. It’s great to see. Thanks for another great video!
@Kephinio
@Kephinio Жыл бұрын
I agree! I've been using a Mac for about two years and this topic was still a mystery to me a few months ago. Videos like this offer great value.
@elevan2760
@elevan2760 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Can confirm that has helped unconfuse myself with my current display issues
@zappa091
@zappa091 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Gary! I've got a 1440 dell 27" and use it in hidpi 720p. Everything's Ok, but I would like more real estate in a 4K monitor in hidpi 1080p mode with about the same size fonts I've got in my current situation. I suppose I would have to choice a bigger display. So what size would you recommend?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
If you have an unlimited budget, get the Apple Studio Display (5K). Otherwise, a good 4K screen is what I recommend. macmost.com/recommendations
@WanderingAroundAZ
@WanderingAroundAZ Жыл бұрын
I was a bit bummed learning about this AFTER purchasing my Dell 4K monitor. As far as screen real estate, I like 1440p scaling, but after switching to the default 1080p I can definitely see the difference in clarity. Now, I wish I had just spent the extra $$ on the Studio Display. 🥺
@rblossey
@rblossey Жыл бұрын
Did you try using 1440p scaling on your 4K monitor? And if so, how did it go? I remember seeing another video about this exact topic, and the guy that tried this really liked it-said it wasn't really quite "Retina" (since it's like 160-ish DPI vs. 200+ DPI for the Studio Display)-but still very sharp, noticeably more than on a true 1440p display). For me, the Studio Display is a dream that's still a ways off, so I "settled" on an HP 27mq for now-I get the same exact UI scaling & space to work with as a Studio Display, great colors (I picked HP because I loved how the colors looked on my 1080p, HP 23cw--which is my second monitor now!), and slightly higher DPI than my old HP as well; so while text doesn't look "Retina" by any means, it's still nice and crisp, getting fonts just a bit closer to "Windows sharp." I've had this new dual-HP setup going for almost a month now, and just that small net gain of +13 extra pixels per inch in going from the old to the new as my "main" has really made for a nice improvement! Now, I don't know what size 4K monitor you bought, but if it's a 27", that's a *+54 DPI* (!) improvement over my 1440p screen right there! (163 vs. 108.8 dots/pixels per inch) That's a night-and-day difference in clarity. From what I understand too, if you have one of the newer M1/M2 machines, you will only take a 1-3% performance hit, using one of these non-integer-scaled resolutions w/your 4K monitor.
@WanderingAroundAZ
@WanderingAroundAZ Жыл бұрын
@@rblossey I am currently using the 1440p resolution on my 27" 4K monitor. Although I like the look of the default resolution (1080p), there isn't enough screen real estate for my work productivity, so I settled on 1440p. It's not bad and with the M1 chip I doubt there is much of a performance hit (if any).
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
@@rblossey I have two monitors connected to my Mac Studio: an Apple Studio Display as a primary screen, and an LG 4K 27" Ultrafine as a secondary screen. First of all, because the Apple 5K uses 77% more pixels than a 4K display, it will ALWAYS look smoother, it just a physical fact. My Mac Studio is a fully maxed out (no pun intended ) M1 Max, so I have enough computing power to run the LG 4K at a scale that matches the 5K's native MacOS resolution as close as possible. To give you an idea, the other day I was watching a 4K Bluray rip (i.e. full 4K quality, no compression unlike streaming), on the LG 4K while working on Adobe Illustrator with multiple tabs open, plus three browsers open with a multiplicity of tabs on the Apple Studio Display, and there was ZERO lag. For reference, I am using a DisplayPort 1.4 to USB-C cable... as HDMI is not a good idea when connecting a second monitor to a computer for several reasons, including HDCP issues.
@rblossey
@rblossey Жыл бұрын
@@rsr789 that’s amazing! This is one reason why I’m excited about the new M2 Pro Mac Mini, cause now the multi-monitor limits-both in # of monitors you can (officially) run and in resolution-are effectively gone 😁 So I might for this in-between option instead of a Studio now when it comes time to upgrade.
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
@@rblossey Just as aside: I used to have that same LG 4K connected to my 2015 27" iMac, connected via miniDP to DisplayPort and I never had any major issues either, while using Illustrator, InDesign, and /or AutoCAD. So an Apple Silicon chip should be a cakewalk for several 4K and/or 5K monitors.
@hansjzeller
@hansjzeller Жыл бұрын
For me, the best part of the video was the tip at the end, that a DisplayPort cable works better than HDMI. Thank you very much for explaining this, Gary! Based on what you said, I replaced my HDMI cable with a DisplayPort one and it's so much better! I use a 1440 monitor for Windows and love it. Occasionally I want to use it as a secondary display for my MacBook Air, and just have to make do with what I have. The smaller font size doesn't bother me too much, the upside is that the display has a lot of screen real estate in this native mode.
@sphui
@sphui Жыл бұрын
where are the improvement of using dp rather than hdmi?
@iamdragonetta
@iamdragonetta Жыл бұрын
I just said the same thing. Nobody else mentioned using a DisplayPort cable. I just want to buy a 27" 4K monitor for my MacBook Pro, and all the other videos were so confusing. I'm so glad that I saw this video before I bought a 1440 monitor.
@Jdb63
@Jdb63 Жыл бұрын
@@iamdragonetta How has the 1440p monitor you got been for the M1 Pro? Is the text blurry?
@blakespot
@blakespot 10 ай бұрын
For a "2K" display, use BetterDisplay (or some such, as you suggest) to render a HiDPI 1920x1080 mode, which will not look blocky and jagged, but rather nice, as macOS will internally render 1920x1080 at 3840x2160 internally, then scale it down to the native 2560x1440 resolution of the display 60 times per second. And no, on modern Mac hardware, this is not a heavy lift. Do not directly display 1920x1080 to the 2560x1440 display without macOS scaling. Though not a 100% perfectly analogous situation, I am doing this with my 2880x2560 28-inch LG DualUp display to find the right resolution and it looks _superb_, and I came to this config directly from a 27-inch iMac with 5K Retina display, to give perspective as to where I'm coming from. (I've detailed my process and experience in this in a blog post out there on the web.)
@iharisyousaf
@iharisyousaf 8 ай бұрын
This is an easier and a better solution.
@NeilVitale
@NeilVitale Жыл бұрын
I was actually working on this just the other day. I learned that actually your Mac doesn't expose high DPI mode on 1440p by default. The way to force it is actually to rotate the screen and then rotate it back. Then you get an option to scale in high DPI mode at 720. One thing I was thinking about during the video was ... can't the mac be smart enough to turn off a few columns on the side or rows at the top in order to make it scale perfectly at any resolution?
@IrrationalDelusion
@IrrationalDelusion Жыл бұрын
write to Apple support about scaling issues!
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
That's one of the things you can accomplish with SwitchResX. If I need to record a tutorial with my MacBook which is 16:10, I use SwitchResX to force it into 16:9 and pixels on the top and bottom are not used.
@IrrationalDelusion
@IrrationalDelusion Жыл бұрын
@@macmost or use BetterDisplay which does similar and can override default display resolution
@IrrationalDelusion
@IrrationalDelusion Жыл бұрын
@@macmost but are black bars really worth it?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@IrrationalDelusion For recording tutorials? Yes, since I want to make the videos in 16:9. But I would never do actual work using this configuration.
@bendurandt5587
@bendurandt5587 Жыл бұрын
The video explains the resolutions very well and the part about using odd resolutions on displays. However the biggest omission is the relationship between the physical size of the display and the resolution (i.e pixel density). It's true that text and UI elements on a 1440p display can be too small too view, but only if you use a smaller display (And that would apply to any resolution). 1440p works very well on a 27inch and above (I have a 25inch 1440p monitor and it's borderline, but I solved it buy moving the monitor a bit closer to me, but should have gone for a 27inch instead.). That also brings in the another factor, which is the distance at which the monitor is placed from the user. Finally to add, 1440P works fine on Mac, Windows and Linux, I use the same 25inch 1440P display on all of them and never had any issue (unless you start scaling the display)
@peite7878
@peite7878 11 ай бұрын
I have an MBP Retina Late 2012 and just got a used DELL U2518D 25" 1440p display and with mDP to DP cable I get 1440p in 59,98hz which works great but I'm considering getting SwitchResX to scale the UI a bit larger. But it doesn't seem to work fully on Catalina. I got a "application unsupported" message. Which screen modifier apps do you use and how did you set it up? I tried a 27" 1440p display before but thought the DPI was too bad so I wanted an 24" 1440p display but got this 25" used for cheap. I don't think Intel MBP 2012 is strong enough for 4K 60fps so there's no way I would get 4K for this one. But whenever I get a Apple Silicon Mac I would get a 4K display.
@meherchaitanya.j1211
@meherchaitanya.j1211 Жыл бұрын
What an informative video you are awesome
@firstpestcontrol276
@firstpestcontrol276 9 ай бұрын
Superb video, thank you :)
@scwinget8528
@scwinget8528 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of 1440p, I have a question: Your videos show up on KZfaq in my Safari browser at 1440p, which is between what's usually called "Full HD" (1080p) and "Ultra HD" (2160p or 4K.) Your videos are the only ones (that I subscribe to) that have that in-between setting. I was just curious why you chose that setting instead of 1080p or 4K.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Good question! I actually has a minute in this video about exactly that and cut it to keep the video more concise. I use that resolution for the videos because most people are watching the video in a browser which shows the video in a rectangle smaller than their screen. At 1920x1080, the menu items and buttons at just too small to be seen comfortably. It is hard to follow what I am doing. At 1280x720 (2560x1440 resolution) interface elements look better in a video. Note I never work this way in real life. I work at 1920x1080 on a 4K screen or 2560x1440 on a 5K screen (normal Mac retina resolution).
@rherwick
@rherwick Жыл бұрын
Still a little confused: I have a Mac Studio and the Studio Display: The Default resolution is 2560 x 1440. Why is this less than the default for 4K monitors which you enumerated in your (as usual) excellent presentation?
@hunterjay8331
@hunterjay8331 Жыл бұрын
The option you see is likely referring to the image scaling, not the actual resolution of the monitor. The elements of the interface are presented at a size typical to 1440p, but using the extra physical resolution of the display to output the best image quality at that size.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
The Studio Display is a 5K (not 4K) screen. Perfect retina resolution is 2560x1440 like you have it set. In this video I'm talking about 4K and 1440 (2K) screens.
@rblossey
@rblossey Жыл бұрын
"2560 x 1440" or "2560 x 1440 (HiDPI)" ? There is a difference!
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@rblossey Right. A 1440 screen would give you 2560x1440. A 5K screen would give you 2560x1440 HiDPI. Huge difference.
@valhala73
@valhala73 9 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Would you recommend me one Monitor to be able to edit photo, watch film, but no so expensive? I am going to use it with a Mac Mini M2...
@macmost
@macmost 9 ай бұрын
macmost.com/recommendations
@herefobeer
@herefobeer Жыл бұрын
This is some serious misinformation from a dude who does not understand that Mac does not support GPU scaling for non-integer scales.
@thesamuelnam
@thesamuelnam 4 ай бұрын
Went into comments to say the same thing.
@a0um
@a0um 3 ай бұрын
Can you please reference some source? I really want to understand this in more depths. Also, are we talking about the masOS UI? Or application contents? Eg, vector graphics should render to any res, right?) thanks
@atetraxx
@atetraxx Ай бұрын
@@a0um google it, its been covered extensively.
@LucasCarvalho-hp6vq
@LucasCarvalho-hp6vq Жыл бұрын
I am Very confuse about what monitor should I buy haha. Can you recommend something?
@dennissingstock9080
@dennissingstock9080 Жыл бұрын
I used the Mac SCALE option to make the print larger. However, dialog boxes from applications then get cut off and I cannot access the buttons that are at the bottom and I can no longer see. Is there a way to see those buttons and use that dialog box without returning to Retina when using an app with that situation.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
What scale are you using that cuts off dialog boxes? What size screen? Hard to advise without knowing the details...
@javtimestwo
@javtimestwo Жыл бұрын
This was very educational. You always seem to understand what your viewers want to learn. Question for you: How can a viewer like myself understand if I can watch your videos in 1080 or 1440 with my MacBook Air or Pro or iMac, etc..?
@sundaynightdrunk
@sundaynightdrunk Жыл бұрын
Go to System Preferences > Displays and see what resolution your screen is set to. If the lower number is greater than 1440, you can view it (full screen) in 1440. If it's less, then you cannot.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you are trying to do. Are you just trying to make the video bigger? Or, are you trying to view it at an ultra-precise resolution? KZfaq is showing you a streaming video with compressing anyway, so what is your goal here?
@javtimestwo
@javtimestwo Жыл бұрын
@@macmost My goal is to view the video in the best resolution possible. The choices range from 240, 480 and all the way up to 1080, 1440 and then 4K. as a mac user how would someone know if their macbook air/pro supports 1080, 1440 or up to 4k?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter for something like a video. The video will use all of the pixels in its rectangle on the screen no matter if you are set to 1080 or 1440. 1080 will make items like the Menu Bar and buttons look bigger, but the video will use all of the pixels regardless.
@fayyazb
@fayyazb 3 ай бұрын
Interesting! So if anything to do with image editing and text then 4K is good. BUT... what to buy when one is using a MBPro M1 Max for Blender / Cinema 4d? 1440 is better option right? Thank you.
@macmost
@macmost 3 ай бұрын
Why would you want fewer pixels when doing graphics work? Seems like you would want more. You already have a MacBook Pro with a great screen. But if you want something additional and you are doing that kind of work, then I would imagine you'd want a 5K screen even, not to go all the way down to a 2K one.
@tonywright8342
@tonywright8342 9 ай бұрын
This is great. I have been a Mac user for a long time using a HD Dell screen. It has worked well for what I use it for. Now I want to upgrade to a 27” screen.
@delakoni
@delakoni Жыл бұрын
Question. Have 27inch 4k display set resolution to Default for Display but when i got to scaled its same as 1920 x 1080. If i got and put it to 3840 x 2160 everything becomes really small. What resolution should i be running ? and if its running on 1080 but then i play a 4k youtube will i see 4k video ?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about in this video. Set it to 1920x1080. Yes, you will see 4K video, images, graphics. It is the interface elements that scale to 1920x1080. All pixels are still used. That's the whole idea of "retina" displays.
@baldfvi
@baldfvi Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video, I have currently a Sceptre F27 (is not a super pro 4k display, just use it for regular work purposes nothing fancy or complex) as my secondary monitor of my MBP M1 Max, is there a video or an almost exact instructions to leave my monitor as close as possible to the real colors I guess I'm seeing currently on my Mac? Thanks!
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Use the controls for the screen itself. Not sure what those would be for that particular one. They are all a little different.
@DutchAussieProductions
@DutchAussieProductions 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber.
@THE_HMRC
@THE_HMRC Жыл бұрын
I went and bought a displayport to USB C for my 2020 MBP and replaced that HDMI....and it is like night and day!!!....Thanks for the info Gary!!.......
@iangreaves933
@iangreaves933 Жыл бұрын
Yet on a 27" retina iMac the default resolution for the 5120 x 2880 display is the 2560 x 1440 resolution you think is a bad idea? Doesn't the GPU have to do a lot of work to scale a monitor to anything other than 110 or 220 dpi? And before retina the 2560 x 1440 was the actual resolution on iMac 27" screens.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Using a 5120x2880 (5K) screen at 2560x1440 is perfect. That gives you a perfect 4-pixel match to 1 virtual pixel. Should be easiest on your eyes and also on the GPU. It is how that display is meant to be used.
@googleuser211
@googleuser211 Жыл бұрын
Problem is not with 1440p. It's with Apple as always. 1440p is a universal ratio, but Apple want you to invest in their own overpriced monitors. This could easily be achieved with a software tweak(pixel align with expense of gpu, which I don't mind). My 5 year old windows perfectly connect and scales with my 2 external 4k monitor. But for my brand new mac m1, I had to buy an adapter to support both monitors, and I use 4k in 1080p resolution with mac, because in 4k resolution text is too small and 2k scaling text is blurry. Look reddit everyone have same problem. Apple knows and ingore users. BetterDummy couldn't help. I might buy their paid version to solve this. Apple has good products but too greedy to allow 3rd party devices.
@HansKruse
@HansKruse Жыл бұрын
Buy an LG 5K monitor and it works perfect. Yes. Apple close pixel doubling when introducing retina displays. It has not changed, but as far as I know the have been some improvements in the scaling from 5K virtual to 4K real displays.
@IamUzyf
@IamUzyf Жыл бұрын
Lol a lot of windows programs have blurry scaling. Windows has same problems as Apple
@googleuser211
@googleuser211 Жыл бұрын
@Евгений Мокрушин nope they are not. I'm using the window and Mac side by side every day. I'm a programmer.
@IamUzyf
@IamUzyf Жыл бұрын
@@googleuser211 yes they are. I’m periodically seeing programs with blurry scaling (windows)
@googleuser211
@googleuser211 Жыл бұрын
@Евгений Мокрушин i don't care what you see. I'm sharing what I see. My 6 years old windows is super crisp when connected to my two 4k monitors, my new mac m1 doesn't even support dual desktop. I have to buy an adapter for it. And its in 1080p. Lol. Windows, no adapter, native support.
@peteruzek
@peteruzek Жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, Recently infound out that in Ventura some resolutions are not available anymore. In Monterey I used to use 3200x1800 on my 4k monitors but now the only resolutions left are 4k and 1920. Any idea why In Ventura there are less resolutions supported? I also use essyRes which was able to switch to a resolution that system preferences did not offer, but now even 3rd party apps are clueless. Any idea? Thank you
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Hard to say. Maybe a beta issue?
@NA-qs7bg
@NA-qs7bg Жыл бұрын
I just bought the M1 Mac mini base model (faster ssd than the M2). And I had the G9 since 2022. Can you tell me which cable is best for displayport to thunderbolt?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
I don't really test cables or anything like that, so I can't tell you which is best. Any should do.
@justkflesh
@justkflesh Жыл бұрын
Dear Macmost, Thanks for your excellent video. What about DPI and Screen size? Should I go 4K 27" or24"? I was told that the best DPI for MAC is around 110 or 220? And I have m1 MacBook pro 16" the DPI is around 250, should I follow this rule?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
"Best" is a subjective term. If someone is telling that that 220 ppi is "best" then be skeptical. As you see, even Apple's own displays for the MacBook Pros are not 220 ppi. As for size, I don't know why anyone would go for a 24-inch display today. I suppose if you want to save a few inches of space, but why would you want a smaller screen?
@justkflesh
@justkflesh Жыл бұрын
@@macmost Tanks for your reply. You are right "best" is subjective. I may go 27" 4k. I use Mac OS for programming, but I still need to use this monitor to review lots of Excel sheets in Windows OS.
@wdirex
@wdirex Жыл бұрын
Really nice video. You explained and covered up most of the things that I found out hardly from various places. I have 1080p monitor with mac, its blurry but now I don't feel 'that' uncomfortable compared to when I first started using it. I was thinking 1440p 24"/27" might be better than this depending on monitor size but 4k is in options too.
@mityukov
@mityukov Жыл бұрын
Actually, 1440 on 27" would give you that sweet "close to 110dpi", where nothing's too big or too little. And what's more: it won't degrade your performance because of constant scaling. It's not retina's 220dpi, for sure (for this you'd need 5K), but it's one of the two resolutions that macos natively supports.
@dr.nunzio_improta
@dr.nunzio_improta Жыл бұрын
Please Sir. Could you advise me with your recommendations in the video, one 24 inch display (brand, model) for a mac mini? No gaming, no video editing or photo editing. For computer and internet use only. Thank you and scuse me, I am not expert.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
I've never used a 24-inch display so I don't have any recommendations, sorry. I wouldn't get anything smaller than a 27-inch.
@kevinleighuk
@kevinleighuk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video. I was surprised by your comment about connecting displays by HDMI cables and preferring USB-C/Thunderport to DPI. I have the new 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max which has an HDMI connector on the side in addition to 2 Thunderbolt/USB-C outputs (plus others). It has 64Gb RAM tho I am not sure this relevant to graphics. I connect to 4K 28" Samsung monitors, one via the HDMI port and one on the other side via a Thunderport port, both using cables connecting to the monitors' HDMI port using 4K UHD cables. The monitors work fine with my MacBook in the middle as a third screen. They run at 60Hz (UI looks like 1920 x 1080) with resolution at 3840 x 2160 (2160p/4K UHD 1 Ultra High Definition). The Macbook's 16" screen has a resolution of 3456 x 2234. Am I misunderstanding something? Or are your comments simply precautionary?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Sounds like for your use HDMI is working fine. Great. But others find that HDMI connects slowly and offers fewer resolution options, plus occasional glitches.
@goodnothing2989
@goodnothing2989 Жыл бұрын
im using mac studio m1 max with lg27qn880 . for two days it was perfect with typc c cable. then suddenly all the crispiness gone and it looks like a ordinary display with 1440 regulation. i tried typec c to dp port cable also tried HDMI to HDMI but nothing is happening. help :(
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Try restarts. If not, try another screen if you can as that would be the only common item.
@billboy7390
@billboy7390 Жыл бұрын
I always ran my 2013 iMac with 1440 even tho my second display was a 4K so they looked t the same. Now I run two 4k screens with my new 16" MacBook pro with the Max chip and don't use the laptop screen at all for home use.
@nurdinimanaliev9635
@nurdinimanaliev9635 Жыл бұрын
Does running 4K external monitor affect to MacBook performance in idle task? For example if a I’m working in Affinity softwares or any other app on a built in MacBook Pro 16 M1/2 display vs running that externally on any other 4K monitor Would I see some kind of resources compsuption in “Monitor view” application Memory, cpu, gpu ? Etc
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
You should not notice any difference.
@MachetaPedro
@MachetaPedro Жыл бұрын
I have a iMac 27 inch 5k and a external 27 inch at 1440 and its pixel perfect. I have no idea what the problem is. 4K at 27 inch is problematic
@saptarshihore3388
@saptarshihore3388 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, i faced the same issue with my new 1440 display, as I didn't have the budget to go up to 4k, but then I installed the Betterdisplay, and notched down my res to 1152 with HiDPi and now the screen looks exactly how I wanted it.
@sergiostockfleth823
@sergiostockfleth823 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video, if a bit biased :-) I do not agree with your statement, as I dont see a problem with 1440p on 27” monitors running non scaled native resolution, and not all who would use a 27” monitor with 1440p are gamers. As an architect there is a lot of software which makes use of 3d accelerated graphics, and this is still easier to run on lower resolutions like 1440p as opposed to 4K. It was Apple who introduced me to 2560x1440p resolution on their big 27” iMac back in 2009, and it was a great machine with a fantastic display, and Im not aware of anybody needing to scale the user interface in OSX back then, because text was hard to read or things looked fuzzy. Im actually not sure if this was a even possibly. And as others have also pointed out, Apples new Studio Display uses a 5k retina display where they in their adds run it at a 2x scaling effectively making it 1440p size with the exact same ratio as a native 1440p 27” display. If you do scale the image, I think you have a valid point, but it is a matter of taste, and I would encourage all to try a 27" monitor with 2560x1440p running it non scaled, before they use their hard earned cash for a 4k 27" monitor, if they only want to run a scaled image anyway. I work on a 27" 1440p monitor 8 hours a day, and I sit at a distance of about 75 cm (29 inches) from my eyes to my screen, and for me, everything looks nice and crisp and I have no problems with reading anything on screen or viewing anything in my CAD modelling software.
@scottd1342
@scottd1342 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation and exactly my experience too. 27" at 1440p is a native scaling for Macs and looks perfect. Not at all too small as suggested in this video.
@jasras5003
@jasras5003 15 күн бұрын
Which 1440p monitors would you recommend?
@sososleeepy
@sososleeepy Жыл бұрын
my current monitor is a 34" ultrawide 1440p ips monitor bc it's specs overall were better for the price than a 4k with more compromises in the refresh rate, as I also use it for my PC for gaming. It has only one display port but has a USB c 3.1 port as well. is it possible to use this to connect my MacBook pro (2023) to the monitor? I don't have a cable that is USB c to USB c that can be used for display, so if it is possible to use this to connect it to the monitor, do you have any recommendations?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Probably not at the USB-C port is for charging or maybe a USB hub that is built in. Just get a USB-C to DisplayPort cable. They are cheap and easy to find.
@rapaent
@rapaent Жыл бұрын
Wow Gary!! Thank you for this video! I will definitely stay away from 1440..... I'm currently looking for a 4K or 5k monitor anywhere from a 27" to Ultrawide for my 16" Late 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Max 64GB. I want it for FCPX video editing along with ON1 Photo Raw as well as being able to scale properly for text documents, web, etc.. I'm finding it very difficult to find one with great specs. I've also seen a few displays which are 5k2k, not exactly sure what that's all about. Do you have any suggestions? As always, I sincerely appreciate all of your hard work! Thanks again! 👍😊
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
A 5k2k is the width of a 5K and the height of a 4K. Kind of a specialty screen for those that want ultra-wide. A list the last 4K screen I used at macmost.com/recommendations
@rapaent
@rapaent Жыл бұрын
@@macmost Thank you Gary! Appreciate your help. Have an awesome weekend! 👍😊
@AppleBman
@AppleBman Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always, Gary. For almost a year I had my M1 Mac Mini running on a 4K Samsung monitor. It looked good but not great. Finally splurged and bought the 5K Mac Studio Display and it looks stunning using the Default settings. You explained why.
@fbales
@fbales Жыл бұрын
Gary, I recently bought a new monitor for my 14” MacBook Pro (my first Mac). Truthfully, it drove me nuts. I really wanted to get a 120hz 4K display to take advantage of all my MacBook offers, but they are insanely expensive! I finally opted for a 60hz 4K display because I’m not a gamer, and don’t do video editing (it was still expensive, but not insanely 😊). I’m using a USB-C cable to connect my monitor to the MacBook, but I don’t think it’s a Thunderbolt cable, should It be? Thank you for your helpful videos.
@sundaynightdrunk
@sundaynightdrunk Жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt to Display Port is what I use, with M1 MB Air.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt ports carry DisplayPort as one of their functions, yes. Unless you are using an HDMI converter cable, then you are now connected using DisplayPort.
@bxlbxlbxlify
@bxlbxlbxlify Жыл бұрын
Wishing for 16:10 aspect ratio monitors with high-res resolutions to come to market with more workable screen real estate. Recently my "old" Apple Cinema HD 23 inch display (1920x1200 (16:10) instead of full HD 1920x1080 (16:9)) died after 12 years. The difference might sound insignificant but in reality it's not, you gain the real estate from the top menu bars for document or browser page viewing. Unfortunately 16:9 aspect ratio won the race and it's virtually impossible to find 16:10 monitor these days with a 4K-ish resolution and modern specs.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. The Dock works better in 16:10 than 16:9. Small difference makes a big difference.
@babafunmiseadebowale7746
@babafunmiseadebowale7746 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Although it didn't talk about the issue that for a lot of people a 27inch 4k display scaled to 1080p or 4k is too big or small respectively.
@DJUwU
@DJUwU 2 ай бұрын
I think that has to deal more with DPI being too high or not high enough. Its confusing because it not only has to deal with screen size and resolution but also DPI which can be different from different manufactures even when both are 4k at 27in for example... But I also think Apple designed everything to be confusing and have limited real life options outside of their own ecosystem...on purpose. For the "real" advice (if you have the money) - just research whatever manufacture Apple is using to produce their panels...and buy that identical item from the manufacture's brand instead. To be honest...it'll still be expensive...but you'll get the nearly the same experience as you would with the Apple display you researched...since same manufacture and all...and especially if its for a 2nd monitor...money saved is money saved in this economy... And as for gaming...the best advice is just build a dedicated PC with NVIDIA latest and greatest, and have one of those 0ms latency large OLED 4K screens. I have 5700XT i9 iMac with full on Bootcamp...the last Apple computer to support Bootcamp...which should have the best compatibility with Windows gaming. And its great...for the most part...but there are still certain things I wish I had...such as being able to update the 5700XT with a non-bootcamp driver...and also a Nvidia graphics card because a lottttt of games have options where only Nvidia has boost options to further increase frame rate and lower latency...and not available on any AMD graphics card...and most importantly...not having to shut down and save my work each time I want to take a game break...(but thats probably for the better because I'm gaming less now)
@DJUwU
@DJUwU 2 ай бұрын
For example...in Valorant...I can only get ~300fps (no complaints for real life usage)...but I know 5700XT is capable of nearly 500~600 fps if I was just allowed to update the driver to a non-bootcamp driver...which I don't think is possible because there were some small changes made to the iMac version of the 5700XT that is not in the Windows/Windows version of the 5700XT. (But with NVIDIA's latest/greatest with the boost on...I'm seeing people get nearly 1000fps)... But if you're buying a Mac...you're probably not worried about making it into Esports...but yeah...for absolutely top tier competitive gaming...building a dedicated Windows PC is a must...
@spitsparrow
@spitsparrow Жыл бұрын
If we get the 4k like you suggest for 27 inch. you have to put up with blurry text and poorer performance just for the right size?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
If you use 4K at 1080 resolution you don't get blurry text at all. It is very sharp. That's what I'm suggesting here.
@dakodawright3107
@dakodawright3107 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed! Question : I have an m1 2021 macbook pro. I have dual m27Q 1440p monitors but text is blurry and image quality is a little soft. Should I switch to dual 27 inch 4 monitors and if so, what resolution would I have to change them to for it to fit properly? I've seen people have issues with 4k monitors on mac.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Have you tried different resolutions? Try them all and see if any work better for you. A 4K screen at 27 inches looks good at 1080 (2-to-1 ratio). Also, how are you connecting to the screens? DisplayPort or HDMI?
@dakodawright3107
@dakodawright3107 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost I plugged both into a dock and that dock connect to my mackbook via dislpay port cable. I want 4k 27 inch but if i scale to 1080 wont i be losing image qaulity?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@dakodawright3107 No. You get 4K pixels in images and for text and lines. It is just the interface (menu bar, buttons, etc) that is sized for 1080. But all of the pixels are still used.
@dazzarg5
@dazzarg5 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Buying a usb c to display port lead right now
@anuraj5295
@anuraj5295 Жыл бұрын
for m1 max studio which you recomend 2k or 4k monitor.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Why choose fewer pixels?
@ajlf4523
@ajlf4523 Жыл бұрын
hi sorry the off topic but i red some coments and you guys are better than me . i want to daisy chain 2x27 monitors on mac. but there are not many thunderbolt screens. is there somo options to do that with display ports but without dock or hub? e found this asus PA27AC (have thunderbolt) and it is QHD. can you guys help-? because 4k with thunderbolt are expencive so i drop to QHD but less options.
@Jawadagha
@Jawadagha Жыл бұрын
Is asus pro art PA348CGV a good monitor for mac for video creating, editing and color grading? Plz do reply to this.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
"Good" is subject. I suppose for some people it would be good. I see it is a 1440 screen which I would avoid in favor of something with more pixels.
@TheGabriel75011
@TheGabriel75011 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot !!
@palikariena7292
@palikariena7292 Жыл бұрын
Wait. My M1 MacBook Air system profiler says I have a 1440 display on it. So I should get a 1440 display for an external monitor so I don’t get the obverse of some of the problems you are saying?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
You don't need to match the displays. It depends on why you want a second display. BTW, a MacBook Air M1 has a 2560 by 1600 display. Not sure where you are seeing 1440.
@hrithikhv814
@hrithikhv814 Жыл бұрын
What is the perfect resolution for a 27inc 4k monitor to get sharp text. (When paired with m1 pro)
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
1920x1080 HiDPI.
@MrJimGoddard
@MrJimGoddard Жыл бұрын
I will save this tutorial so that when I upgrade my external display I'll meet all of the qualifications for the better screen output. Thank you so very much
@handcoding
@handcoding Жыл бұрын
I agree with your conclusion here-that 4K displays will usually offer a better experience for users than 1440 displays-but I don’t think that I quite agree with all of your reasoning. Yes, a 4K will offer greater pixel density than a 1440p display, and that’s definitely a good thing. But I think that your illustration showing the 1440p’s “mismatched” pixel grid when it’s scaled might be ever so slightly misleading? For instance, you mention that text and photos will look sharper on a 4K display (and I agree with that), but I think that the reason that text and photos will look sharper is because you a 4K screen offers greater pixel density-not because of a “mismatched” pixel grid. Take photos, for example. If you were to be looking at a 25 megapixel photo on your monitor, you wouldn’t be able to view that photo at 100% zoom (showing every pixel) whether you’re on a 1440p display or on a 4K display-so you’re going to have scaling either way. Or take text as another example. Modern fonts are vector based, so they don’t have trouble scaling either. And if you might worry that the “mismatched” pixel grid might inherently make things look terrible, you might try this experiment: 1. On your 5K studio display, take a full-screen screenshot. 2. Then, using Photoshop or another image editor, scale that screenshot to 4K and then save that as a PNG (or another lossless image format). 3. Then open that PNG and view it at 100% scale. (At this point, the scaled screenshot should only fill a portion of your screen.) At this point, the image will be smaller, and I’ll grant you that it won’t be as sharp as the original screenshot. But I’ll venture that the image won’t look inherently terrible-because when Photoshop or other image editors scale down high-res images, they’re are enough pixels to go around to calculate average pixel values when needed. I bring up this experiment because-as far as I’m aware-macOS does its scaling in the same way (by rendering the screen at an internal virtual resolution that’s higher than the physical display, and then scaling that down before it’s sent to the monitor). And while that sort of scaling might ostensibly have to make compromises if the original image were to have, say, a line within the UI that were to be 1 physical pixel wide, I’m not aware of macOS having any UI elements that are only 1 physical pixel wide. I love your videos, Gary, my slight disagreement with some of your reasoning here doesn’t change that. And I definitely agree with you that Mac folks will be waaay better off with a 4K display than a 1440p display; I just happen to feel that way because of the difference in pixel densities rather than because of concerns about a “mismatched” pixel grid. PS If by any chance you had wanted to, Gary, if you were to potentially update the video’s title from referring to “1440” to “1440p”, my Spidey-sense is that the latter, being more specific, might offer slightly better SEO?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
I guess my point is when someone tries to use a 1440p screen at a size other than 1440p or 720p. Most find the first too small and the second too large. So they end up going in-between. If neither 1440p or 720p work for you with a 27-inch screen, then getting a 1440 27-inch was a bad idea and a 4K would have been better because 1080p on a 4K is right in-between 1440p and 720p on a similar-sized 1440 screen.
@Minsetti
@Minsetti Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that's a really long and careful way of expressing that he doesn't have any idea of how things are handled at OS level.
@smnaveen4816
@smnaveen4816 Жыл бұрын
If i switch 27inch 4k monitor to 2k scaling..will refresh rate also drop to 30hz?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't, but it may depend on the screen itself. Try it and see.
@jo69123
@jo69123 10 ай бұрын
My m2 Max has screen flickering issues on dark gray colors, I see it’s a common issue, would you happen to know how to fix it? 😢
@macmost
@macmost 10 ай бұрын
Not sure what would cause this problem. Try calling Apple Support and see what they say.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and explanation! I do day trading on a 43” UHD/4K monitor, and the desktop real estate is AWESOME! Add the ability to have multiple screens, perfection.
@AppleBman
@AppleBman Жыл бұрын
My desk at work has two Samsung 43" UHD's side-by-side, replacing a half-dozen smaller LCD monitors. What a difference! I used to get headaches every day -- not any more.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor Жыл бұрын
@@AppleBman - You had me until you said Samsung, LOL! I’ve had several Samsung TV’s fail or develop issues. Samsung fights every warranty claim tooth and nail. “We only warrant to the original purchaser, which we show was Best Buy, not you.” Or my favorite, “screen discoloration is only covered if it affects a 10% of the screen, the picture you send of the dead pixels does not qualify for warranty repair.” People buy them because they are inexpensive, hence your company. Avoid them for personal use.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
A 43-inch is a whole different story. More than twice the area of a 27-inch.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor Жыл бұрын
@@macmost - Area yes, same screen size in pixels. 🤣😎
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@Erin-Thor Right. But if a button is say, 100 pixels across on the screen it will be a lot easier to read the label for the button on a 43-inch screen than a 27-inch screen.
@turbojobo
@turbojobo Жыл бұрын
How come the thunderbolt display is 1440p? On my macbook m2 my thunderbolt display if I dont use 720p it looks really bad and blurry! :(
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Because it is from 11 years ago and is before Apple started using HiDPI (retina). Set it to 1440 exactly and it should look ok-ish but still at less than half the pixels of a cheap 4K today. But using it at 1440 will be hard for some eyes, definitely.
@Kevin6t8
@Kevin6t8 Жыл бұрын
I'm using a 55" LG C1 4K 120hz OLED TV as my monitor connected to my M1 Mac Mini. My TV doesn't have display ports, but 4 HDMI 2.1 ports. Should I try Thunderbolt to HDMI?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's big. It has only HDMI because it is only really supposed to be for TV, not a computer screen. an HDMI adapter is your only choice since you don't have any other way to connect.
@Kevin6t8
@Kevin6t8 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost I have a Thunderbolt 4 to HDMI cable on its way. Right now, I'm using an HDMI 2.1cable rated for 8K @ 60Hz even though my M1 Mac Mini has a HDMI 2.0 port. I plan on getting the M2 Pro Mac Mini soon.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin6t8 So you already have one? Should be fine with just that then.
@bartez8018
@bartez8018 10 ай бұрын
So please someone tell me what is good monitor for Mac? I don't really need 4k or 5k res, I can go 1440p but which size will be best? What do you recommend?
@macmost
@macmost 10 ай бұрын
"best" is subjective. What is it you need and what is your budget? Only go 1440 if you plan on using it at 1440 size (no retina) which is too small for many people. Otherwise get a 4K for more options.
@gardriel8208
@gardriel8208 4 ай бұрын
But 1440p at 27“ is the correct intended size, right? The studio display has 1440p hiDPI at 27“ but it’s the same UI size as 1440p non retina. Did I understood it correctly?
@dushan6588
@dushan6588 Жыл бұрын
Can I know, can we update monitor firmaware using mac. I use m1 mac mini. I have another issue, when i turn off my monitor or if it going to sleep mode. it won't turn on again, I search that issue and it show we need to update firmaware of monitor. But it not support to Mac. What I do now? My monitor is Dell P2412H . Please help
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
You'll need to refer to your screen's documentation/support for firmware updates. Same for your other question. Ask Dell. I don't have that particular screen of course, so I wouldn't know the details.
@dushan6588
@dushan6588 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost Oh. Ok. Thank you.
@bmjw18
@bmjw18 Жыл бұрын
Would HDMI 2.1 work better than HDMI from my macbook pro? I have a converter and it works fine and well from what I can tell on my 4K monitor... but if a DP will be even better, i may just get another converter and see whats up.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
2.1 supports 8K screens. But if you don't have an 8K screen, then it doesn't matter. DisplayPort won't convert to HDMI at all, which is better since you don't need to.
@bmjw18
@bmjw18 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost ah. I was gonna get a DP to thunderbolt dongle/adapter.
@bmjw18
@bmjw18 Жыл бұрын
@@macmost i have a DP chord but as you know macbooks don't have the port
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
@@bmjw18 sure do. Those thunderbolt ports carry DisplayPort. That’s how most people connect screens.
@huiAPPOAJ
@huiAPPOAJ Жыл бұрын
Well Apple external displays are 5120x2880 which is exactly 2x 1440p, with that wouldn't 1440p display be the next best thing after 5K with just halved resolution instead of scaling everything to 4K? I don't understand the arguments in this video.
@guti3435
@guti3435 Жыл бұрын
Does this also affect 32 inch 4k monitors? All i see is 27 inch
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. I'm recommending 4K screens, so a 32-inch 4K sounds good to me. The problem is with 1440 screens.
@warrenwillis6477
@warrenwillis6477 Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for Ultra Wide 34 inch monitors that are 3440x1440?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
That's basically the same problem as a 2560x1440, just you have more space on the left and right. The interface is going to look too big at 1720x720 and too small at 3440x1440. You are just going to have to try all of the options and pick what works best for your eyes if you want to stick with that screen.
@frantisek_heca
@frantisek_heca 5 ай бұрын
@tWhat you talking about? Why would the native 3440x1440 on 34" look too small? All people I know are working on that resolution. I am confused in the end.. so, if the native resolution would be ok for me, are there any problems based on the issues mentioned in this video, please?
@ashishsaxena7671
@ashishsaxena7671 Жыл бұрын
Gary looking fwd for the apple event tmrw. My choice iphone 14 pro or iphone 14 plus.
@Elrevisor2k
@Elrevisor2k Жыл бұрын
Is it true that using 4k scaled is using GPU for this slowing down the mac?
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
Not really. Certainly not at 1080 HiDPI resolution on a 4K since that's a perfect fit. Maybe a tiny bit in some cases, depending on what you are doing. But certainly not enough to justify you viewing at a resolution you don't like instead.
@markholle3450
@markholle3450 Жыл бұрын
I have found that using a 34" WQHD ultrawide monitor with Magnet is a great way to overcome the one external monitor limitation on the MBA. At that size, using the native resolution of 3440 x 1440 isn't too small for me and text is crisp. I use a thunderbolt dock to connect my monitor and everything else to my base M1 MBA with one cable. Use a USB-C port with DisplayPort alt mode to get the best results. Magnet allows me to be super-efficient moving everything around with shortcut commands. Most often, I break the ultrawide into two screens as my main work area and use the MBA screen for Outlook or MS Teams. i don't even realize I have a monitor limitation.
@attika70
@attika70 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but you forgot to mention the most important part. Is your monitor blurry or not?
@markholle3450
@markholle3450 Жыл бұрын
@@attika70 It isn’t blurry at all. I am constantly dragging windows from my MBA screen to the external monitor and I don’t notice any issues in clarity. Using USB-C with “DisplayPort alt mode” to connect to my Thunderbolt dock lets me use the full 100 mhz settings on my Dell 34” WQHD monitor. Stay away from HDMI if you can help it. By the way, I am 59 and don’t use cheater glasses for viewing my computer. I am not trying to scale up to enlarge text.
@attika70
@attika70 Жыл бұрын
@@markholle3450 do you by any chance use the monitors sharpness setting to make text sharper. A 1440p monitor would 100% be a bit blurry(only text), I am just not sure how bad it is. So if you dont have the monitor sharpening on and you can see that the text is blurry I assume your vision is not clear enough.
@markholle3450
@markholle3450 Жыл бұрын
@@attika70 I have never adjusted any sharpness settings. Why would it be 100% blurry for text? I mainly use the monitor for accounting software, Teams, and the MS Suite which is primarily text. I regularly swap out the Mac for my 2023 HP Spectre. Windows can scale better than the Mac and I don’t notice a difference. My vision is good enough that I don’t need to blow up the screen to see read small text.
@attika70
@attika70 Жыл бұрын
@@markholle3450 because macos using scaling resolution so anything with less then 218PPI is blurry by nature
@scottd1342
@scottd1342 Жыл бұрын
I've been using a Dell 1440p 27" screen for 3 years with the "default" setting and it looks perfect. I would love 5K of course but the damned things cost too much and there's not much to choose from. So I don't know why you say 1440 makes everything too small. It absolutely doesn't, at least not on my screen (Dell U2719DC).
@Wizdumb97
@Wizdumb97 Жыл бұрын
Also, the Mac UI uses numbers like 5120x 2180 for 27 inch screens so that the ppi is suitable for the scaling of the Mac's software with retina. Why aren't other companies pushing that accurate resolution so that the UI for Mac users is fitted correctly for our uses when plugging in Mac products to monitors? It's very frustrating. Do you know any monitors that have the same dimensions which correlate properly for Mac's interface to be projected on the screen or are there just simply no options out there other than 4K monitors at 27 inches, which then mess with the scaling size. I've been looking for suitable comprises for so long. Please respond if you have a chance. Thanks for your channel. Appreciate your content.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
LG also makes a 5K screen. That's the only other one at the moment.
@grubsch
@grubsch Жыл бұрын
I have 2 1440 25" from dell. And they are not bad at all. Under Windows you are able to scale the font and interface to allmost any in fine increments. Now I bought an m1 Mac mini and I'm still shocked there is now way under macOS to at least scale the fonts systemwide. Guess there are two ways of locking at it: MacOs sucks in that regard or as apple would say "you have the wrong displays". Don't know what I will doe. I'm not going back to windows! For now I use some reading glasses in the native apps. They are the worst. Adobe lets you tweet to somehow usable.
@Mzansi74
@Mzansi74 5 ай бұрын
That for another great video. I rock a 27" 4k at 1920x1080. Absolutely brilliant!
@IrrationalDelusion
@IrrationalDelusion Жыл бұрын
I can tell that there's no visual difference between HDMI 1.4 through (LIKELY) passive adapter Kingston Nucleum and using Displayport through Dell passive adapter to thunderbolt. Using HDMI Display starts longer, but display quality and refresh rate appear the same.
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
"Starts longer" should be enough to get you to use DisplayPort, not HDMI. At your settings, you see no difference, but at other settings you probably will. I'd stick with DisplayPort.
@IrrationalDelusion
@IrrationalDelusion Жыл бұрын
@@macmost It depends what adapters are used with the Mac. Most Macbooks have 2 thunderbolts, and multiport adapters very rarely include Displayport. Some people need more ports and don't have very high resolution monitors
@ScottHatmaker
@ScottHatmaker Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Nice Video. Am old software guy retired but still use xCode for iOS playing and fly X-Plane Flight Sim which is really graphic intensive. I am looking at buying Mac Studio (trading in my late 2015 iMac 5G Retina) but will need to get two monitors. I think I understand that we are shooting for resolutions around 110 or 220 since MacOS handles them without scaling. I have been on this 27" iMac and Dell 27" P2715Q monitor for awhile and want to still have 2 - 27" monitors with my Mac Studio. The 5K screens look like they are expensive (above $1000 each) and 4K monitors are well priced but I will have to come down in resolution to 2560 X 1440 to get that 108 PPI. Not retina obviously but also not utilizing what the monitor is capable of doing. For even a little less money, I think one can get a 1440 27" monitor and run it at its max resolution. SO... Running xCode, Browse and big Flight Sim as my game... Is it better to go 4K and just scale it down to eliminate the performance hit or go 2560 X 1440 (I think 2K or Quad HD) and run at default (max resolution)? I wonder how different they will look. Again, thanks for educating us... Scott
@macmost
@macmost Жыл бұрын
That's a tough one. 4K at 1440 just looks bad for a lot of people. But you are talking about a game here, not using regular apps (Finder, Safari, Pages, Mail, etc). Typically you play games at different resolutions anyway. So you could always get a pair of 4K screens and use them as 1080 (HiDPI/Retina) for regular stuff, but set your game to use them both at 1440, right? Otherwise, you can get 1440 screens and use them at 1440, but that may not be great for regular stuff depending on your eyes. No one can really answer this for you definitively without trying both options -- and even then they may subjectively prefer something different than you will.
@felix_nope
@felix_nope Жыл бұрын
It is not the resolution but the pixel per inch (ppi) mac operates best and multiples of around 100 ppi, so 27"@1440p or 27"@5k...
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