The Problems of Secularism

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In public life or on social media, you’ve probably heard the term ‘secular’ before. Originating in Ancient Greece, secularism is the idea that religion should be separated from civil affairs and the state, seeking to remove or minimise the role of religion in any public sphere. A secular world view has encouraged societies to promote virtues like freedom of speech and freedom of religion and it has helped stop religious conflicts throughout human history. In this sense, secularism has helped human beings of all religious groups to look past their theological differences and instead, recognise each other’s humanity.
That being said, secularism still contains a lot of faults. Religion has, for the most part, been pivotal in providing meaning in people’s lives and secularism wants to minimise it and in some cases, throw it all away. In this video, we will look into what secularism is, its contributions to society and the problems with it in the 21st century. I hope you enjoy this video and You’re watching All Things Humanities.
Sources:
Secularism and Religion, Steven Kettel. (2019). 25 Jan/
Copson, Andrew (2019). Secularism: A Very Short Introduction. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780198747222.
"Secular Europe and Religious America: Implications for Transatlantic Relations". Pew Research Center. 2005-04-21. Archived from the original on 2018-07-04. Retrieved 4 July 2018.
• Does God Exist? Jordan...
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^ trans. Walter Kaufmann and R.J. Hollingdale; Twilight of the Idols, Expeditions of an Untimely Man, sect. 5

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@scottdemarest9315
@scottdemarest9315 Жыл бұрын
I liked the video but I think all the “problems” with secularism you described are really just problems with anti-theism, which I’d argue is separate from secularism.
@whalewil3135
@whalewil3135 Жыл бұрын
secularism causes antitheism
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
Anti theism is the result of secularism or governmental secularism
@arusirham3761
@arusirham3761 Жыл бұрын
Secularism is not a "problem" anymore, it is part of our everyday life in this modern age. Humanity, willy nilly, needs to find new meaning apart from religion.
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
@@arusirham3761 secularism is a problem in society
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector 11 ай бұрын
@@arusirham3761it won’t find one. When the religious void is big enough a tyrant will lead the radicals to genocide Either we Get our God or we get death. We need God or else.
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Жыл бұрын
Humanity is changing the world. You can not change the world without affecting others.
@arusirham3761
@arusirham3761 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. As phil zuckerman argues that secularism is the result of tensions between religion and modernization. Secularism is not a "problem" anymore, it is part of our everyday life in this modern age. Humanity, willy nilly, needs to find new meaning apart from religion.
@matterasmachine
@matterasmachine Жыл бұрын
@@arusirham3761 humans are creators, gods themselves. Creation (changing the world) is the meaning..
@arusirham3761
@arusirham3761 Жыл бұрын
@@matterasmachine well put sir
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 6 ай бұрын
@@arusirham3761 - Phil Zuckerman is also Dishonest. His Research is Simply Polemic done to push His Religion. And Secular Humanism is a Religion. Phil Zuckerman's "Research" is a Poorly Done Joke Easily Debunked as well. There is No Rational Basuis for the Silly CLaim that Humanity Needs to Find New Meaning Apart from Religion. People WHo say that are Themselves Religious, and Simply Lie to us about Not being Religious/. Secularism is Not Really a Result of the Tensions between Religion and Moderrnization. That is a Laugha ble Lie. Its One that has No Historical Support whatsoever. Especially since Phil Zucvkerman's Adherance to Secularisation Thesis is One He Holds to In Spite of the Fact that The Secularization Thesis was Disproven over 30 Years Ago. The Science is in a State of Warfare with Religion Thesis was Discredited over 70 Years Ago. And Phil Zuckerman was an Activist for His Own Secular humanist Religion Before he did His Research. And All you have to do is Read what he says of Christianity and You Know He is Incredibly Biased. Seriously, do You Honestly Think Morals can be Determined by if You Vote for Liberal Policies? Zuckewrman does. His Idea of what makes Secular People More Moral than Religious People is Evangelical Christians Vote Republican and Secular People Vote Democrat. That is Not Science. That is Polemic.
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 6 ай бұрын
​@@arusirham3761 This is an incorrect philosophic teaching based on the idea of clean slate birth and that man is inherently good. Which if you look just one second at history shatters that theory. Science says we have behavioral genes, science says environment impacts behaviors as well. Therefore no one is truly born with a clean slate.
@michaeldavidson4847
@michaeldavidson4847 6 ай бұрын
Of being secular in a society is not the question. The question is, what are the goals of this society? How do we measure the efficiency of our progress to these goals? Do the goals of this society align to the secular beliefs I am looking for? Religion will be here long after I'm gone. I believe it's best I look for the society that best aligns with me, then try to change the culture where I currently live. It's exhausting...
@evelina733
@evelina733 4 ай бұрын
Secularism can be very good. Depending on who is practicing it, just like religion. Religion can be used for good and evil. There is no perfect system. Personally I think secularism is better and is more logical and inclusive. It also doesn’t claim to know all. So it leaves more space for thought and growth of humans as species or a group. It is better at promoting collective learning and intelligence
@ahmedislam2580
@ahmedislam2580 2 ай бұрын
Morality cannot be founded without religion.
@FrozenSpector
@FrozenSpector 8 ай бұрын
Which position will aim to protect the well being of another persons’ position: Secularism vs any singular religion? Only Secularism will protect the rights of everyone’s freedom while ensuring no one faith gains privilege over any other. Religion is mutually exclusive by definition and thus cannot be left in charge in “good faith”.
@souzajustin19d
@souzajustin19d 7 ай бұрын
Funny you have to borrow a Christian belief to justify your moral position. Try again.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 7 ай бұрын
Rubbish. Secularism today is Far More Authoritarian and Controlling than Any "Religion" We see in The West. Secularism won't Automatically Protect Rights, and Secularism Will be given a Privledge Position. Secularism is Not Neutrality to Religion, Secularism is a Religion, and Once You Mandate Secularism be followed in Forming Laws, In Our Schools, and in Our Society, You give is Privledge and Denying Freedom. Also, it Really is Not True that Religion is Mutually Exclusive to Freedom. That is absurd. I Know it is what Mindless Atheist Drones Say but its Based on a Silly Idea that You can tell Just So Stories or Historical Anecdotes that Usually aren't True and Pretend You have provided Evidence for a Proclamation on How Religion is Inherently Controlling and Anti-Freedom, which won't even Describe the Actual Religions People Follow, and Pretend the Tolerant Religious People are Moderates Whose Tolerance somehow is Because of Secularism, even Though Your Only Evidence for This Will be the Assumption that Religion is By Definition Mutually Exclusive to Freedom and cannot be left in Charge. Its Not Really True, its just You being Absurd. Especially since Atheists Who Push This Argument Never Argue in Good Faith. You won't even Admit Atheism is a Belief that no gods Exist and Pretend it is a lack of Belief in a god so You can Claim God does Not Exist then Deny Claiming God Exists and that You have No Burden Of Proof. You Also Hide behind the Word Atheism to Not have top Admit You are a Secular Humanist and This is a Belief System, and that You Really follow a Religion Yourself.
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 6 ай бұрын
In theory. In practice we can't stop children from learning about LGBTQ and having the state encourage transitioning. Any opposition to this is met with "separation of church and state". Do you see the problem with this? The state can push any morality it wants and can deny the democratic process to restrict or ban it. Secularism is also impossible as many religions laws and principles can line up with "secular law"
@enzoarayamorales7220
@enzoarayamorales7220 5 ай бұрын
@@souzajustin19dno actually rights are not a uniquely Christian idea and they can be justified separate from religion, look at what happens throughout history to people when we don’t uphold an ideal of human respect like this
@enzoarayamorales7220
@enzoarayamorales7220 5 ай бұрын
@@cfroi08not really because you can argue for and against those cases using statistics and facts that effect society in any significant way and many people do the whole trans debate is mostly just this and even the religious people who have religious reasons to oppose lgbtq rights are also using secular justifications to attempt to back themselves up in those discussions, government corruption is a problem for all government systems that is a separate issue that needs to be dealt with, also notice how said principles you mention that align with secular laws tend to be the most basic building blocks to maintaining any society at all such a restrictions on murdering or stealing which in it of itself is a secular justification for preventing its collapse yet at the same time there many other religious principles that aren’t as clear cut like sexuality which tends to conflict with facts etc.
@davidbosankoe3759
@davidbosankoe3759 Жыл бұрын
Just watched a video about the increasing fall of birth rates and the demographic timebomb that this is expected to cause. Could it be an aspect of secularism is behind it?
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought? I understand that pro-creation is important in most religions. However, I do think that low birth rates have to do with industrialisation more than anything
@davidbosankoe3759
@davidbosankoe3759 Жыл бұрын
@@allthingshumanities5328 Good point. Secularism and modern industry were both products of the Enlightenment period.
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly right! Check out my video on ‘How Protestantism made us rich’. I cover those ideas in it!
@jaxsazerac4904
@jaxsazerac4904 Жыл бұрын
Of course it is.
@msid7748
@msid7748 9 ай бұрын
you conveniently forgot climate change and the rising costs of food, housing, healthcare, etc.
@abumefak2
@abumefak2 27 күн бұрын
Secularism over Theocracy , and reason over blind faith in the clergy any day of the week.
@supersaiyan1888
@supersaiyan1888 Ай бұрын
Secularism forbid to favour any religion and instead put emphasis on reason and logic when framing public for general people and hinder any sort of discrimination and or marginalization based on their religious therefore secùralism promotes the right of indivifual to practise their faith regardless of any religious ensuring social cohesion and equality among citizen.
@lee0495
@lee0495 5 ай бұрын
While you did a better job than most at defining some secular positions, I don't think the problems you proposed would present a challenge to secularist. It seems (although I don't think you mean to) to reaffirm theocratic priors rather than present challenges to secular positions which does a disservice to either audience. Some quick points... > Secularist will often dismiss spiritual or mystical experiences... Secularist does not equal Atheist or Skeptic. Acceptance of spiritual or mystical experiences does not mean you wish it to dictate public policy. > The Soviet Union and China as secular problem examples. I think you would've been better served using Frances ban on religious dress in schools or other similar laws. A secular audience most likely living in a liberal democracy isn't going to take the communism example nearly as seriously (It's been addressed ad-nauseam), how laïcité and other western interpretations of secularism compare do cause debate. > Secular societies may repress religious minorities. A secularist would argue that religious minority protection in secular societies compared to theocratic ones leans heavily in favor for secular societies. While "it's better than alternatives" isn't a direct response to pointing out problems, it's hard not to notice that elephant in the room. Taking time to address it (if you thought about it of course) might've been worthwhile.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 4 ай бұрын
Right,. Comparing Secularism to "Theocratic Countries' iis silly. Especially since You Wil Cherry Pick what a Theocratic Country is. I also don't see a Real Issue since The Soviet Union and Communist China are the Logical End of Secularism, which is Really just a Religion in its Own Right. Secularism does Not Really Protect Religious Minorities, it imposes its own Views on Everyone Whilst Pretending to not have Views to Impose and being Neutral. Also, if You Deny Any Spiritual Expeirnce is Credible in "Determining Public Policy" then You Really are Denying them any Credibility, and there is No Reason to Allow Your Artificial Naturalistic Views to Dictsate Public Policy other than the Mythology that We Wither have Secularism thus Freedom of Theocracy Thus Tyranny, which is itself Reductionist and Absurd.
@kebab3854
@kebab3854 3 ай бұрын
@@skwills1629 The issue is not secularism here China and the USSR are not the logical end of secularism, because they are actively hostile to religion, while a secular country can not be hostile to religion And in a secular country, the credibility of any spiritual experience will be denied because policy should be made about facts or logic or arguments, not about the experience or the belief of one person
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 3 ай бұрын
@854 - The Problem with Secularists is, You not Only Refuse to Accept You Have a Religion, You also Apply the Dogmas You beleive in even when it is Obvious it makes No sense to. "The issue is not secularism here" Yes it is. It is Literally the Topic We are discussing. "China and the USSR are not the logical end of secularism, because they are actively hostile to religion, while a secular country can not be hostile to religion" Am I Really supposed to Believe a Secular Tyranny is Impossible and secularism can Never be Hostile to Religion? By this Logic, it would Be Impossible to Prove a secular country was ever Hostile to Reigion siunce Once You show a country was Hostile to Religion it is no Longer Considered secular. It is defiing the Issue Away, and Not onest.. In Reality We have No Reason whatsoever to beleive a Secular State Wll not be Hostile to Religion. Also, It is Not Really true that a Nation with an official Religion would Automatically Impose that Religion on its Citizens. It is a dogma to Your Secular not Religious beliefs, but the Thing is, just asserting Religion Removes Freedom and secularism preserves Freedom is Not Evidence, it is Dogma. I could for example say Christians believe in Allowing Freedom of Choice in Religious Matters thus to Christian Nation ever Denied You Freedom, and if You Point to Any which did, I could simply say they were Not Truly Christian. The Reality is, I Have No Reason whatsoever to assume a "Religious State: as You Think of the term would Deny Freedom Nor do I have Any Reason to Assume a Secular State Allows Freedom. I am also NOT Arguing in Absolutes like You are, so My Point is Not Secularism is Always Tyranny, but it can be Tyrannical, just as a "Religious' Country as You call them can Be Free. "And in a secular country, the credibility of any spiritual experience will be denied" So Secularism is Not about Freedom. Secularism is Also Not about Truth. " because policy should be made about facts or logic or arguments, not about the experience or the belief of one person"" In Other Words, secularism is based on the Assumption that All Religious belief is Not true, something You can't actually demonstrate is True. We also have to assume Secularism is Not itself a religion when in Reality it is. Once You say secularism bases All of Its Policies on Facts and Logic, You assume Modern Materialism and Atheism are Simply Factually true, and We Both Know that isn't the case, and the Values of Modern secular Countries are Simply true, which is, again, Not Self Evidence. You also assume any Spiritual belief is Purely based n Subjective Experience or "Indoctrination, not Education", which is just assumed. Secularism is Not about truth, its about Imposing the Humanist Religion in Us All.
@kebab3854
@kebab3854 3 ай бұрын
​@@skwills1629 "The Problem with Secularists is, You not Only Refuse to Accept You Have a Religion, You also Apply the Dogmas You beleive in even when it is Obvious it makes No sense to." It's not a religion, having beliefs doesn't mean you are religious And I debated and I believe secularism is better than having a state religion because this way, no religion is promoted over the other, and laws aren't based on one religion over the other "Am I Really supposed to Believe a Secular Tyranny is Impossible and secularism can Never be Hostile to Religion?" No of course not, any state can be hostile to one or multiple religions, but a secular state does not entail a state hostile to religion "Also, It is Not Really true that a Nation with an official Religion would Automatically Impose that Religion on its Citizens." True, in England, Anglicanism is the state religion, but it's not imposed The issue is that this religion has advantages over other religions "I could for example say Christians believe in Allowing Freedom of Choice in Religious Matters thus to Christian Nation ever Denied You Freedom, and if You Point to Any which did, I could simply say they were Not Truly Christian." So all medieval european monarchies were not truly christian? And the issue is not that if they were really christian or not, the issue is that they used christianity to repress other beliefs Secularism can prevent that because there's no discrimination of some beliefs over the other ""And in a secular country, the credibility of any spiritual experience will be denied" So Secularism is Not about Freedom. Secularism is Also Not about Truth." So secularism will simply not promote the interpretation of one's "truth" over the other You can still believe what you want, but you can't make laws based on your beliefs because it will apply to everyone, even those with no or other beliefs "In Other Words, secularism is based on the Assumption that All Religious belief is Not true, something You can't actually demonstrate is True" Not really, I would say secularism is based on the assumption that all beliefs are equal and one shouldn't be promoted or valued over the other And that arguments should be made based on something we can all agree on, not something some people with a specific set of spiritual beliefs can "You also assume any Spiritual belief is Purely based n Subjective Experience or "Indoctrination, not Education", which is just assumed." Sorry if I came like that, I'm not anti-religion or anti-theist or anything like that, I'm completely neutral when it comes to religion in the political sphere I don't assume anything, I'm not denying one's experience and spiritual beliefs, I just think those beliefs belong to the person and the person only (and can be talked to with other persons belonging to the same religion), and thus shouldn't be used for making policies because we can't argue about what someone's spiritual experience as we can argue about arguments in favor and against
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 3 ай бұрын
@854 -You are not Debating Anything, You are making Decrees. When You say Having Beliefs is not the same as Having a Religion, all that Means is whatever You Arbitrarily Decree is Secular ism Permissible Whilst that Which is Religion is Not. Secularism is a Religion, and I Explains Why. You On the Other hand simply Insist Secularism is Not a Religion simply because You need Us to define it as not Religion. In Reality, While You say secularism is better than having a state Religion, because that was We o;t have one Religion promoted over others and Our Laws are not Based on One Religion, the Truth us We have a State Religion called Secularism, Which We aren't allowed to question and Must Comply to and All of Our Laws are based on. It is also a Reductive Argument since You can have a Society that does have a state Religion and still allows Other Religions to Exist, and even Allows people Who Hold those beliefs to Shape Policies Based on Their Beliefs. For that matter, You can Have a Society with No State Religion that Also Allows People to Base what They Say on Any issue on their Religious beliefs and argue for them and Influence Society. Religion is Not Really this Absolutist and Always Divisive Thing that Secularists Claim it is, and it Certainly is not true that if a “Religious Person”: is I Conflict with a secularist the fault is Purely on The “Religious person: for Not Comp;lying with Secular values and the “Religious Person” is Wrong to Want to “Impose Their Religion” on Society. It is Also Not Really true that All Secularist ideas are Rational and based on Evidence, Nor is it true that all Religion is based on what secularists like You Arbitrarily Decree Faith toi mean, That being, Faith is belief Without Evidence, and the Slly Idea that a “Religious person”: Only believes Things because their Holy book and Religious leaders said So, and never have a Rational Basis for Their beliefs and Simply believe with the Evidence what they are Told is just false. In The Real World those “Religious People” Often ut More Thought and have more Rationality , More Logic, and more Evidence for Their positions than do secularists who instead Rely on us pretending that they have No Religion to Automatically Gurentee we see Secularist Positions as Rational and Logical and Evidence based Purley because They are called Secularist. In fact, secularists Want to Impose Things on us for No Reason other than They are Branded Secularist. The Term Secular is One You Slap On Anything You Approve of to make it Sacrosanct and Insit it be Implemented or Imposed or mandated, and Never Ever Ever Questioned, Whilst Castigating Other ideas as “Religious”: thus somehow Irrational, Not Logical, not Based on Evidence, and Tyrannical all because it Bares that label of “Being Religious” as if that Alone proves it is Wrong. You also Steadfastly Refuse to address the Real issue. I said This; "Am I Really supposed to Believe a Secular Tyranny is Impossible and secularism can Never be Hostile to Religion?" You Replied with This; “No of course not, any state can be hostile to one or multiple religions, but a secular state does not entail a state hostile to religion” This is You Agreeing with My Point but pretending I am Wrong. It is an irritating Tactic, and Dishonest. If secularism can be Tyrannical, then it is Not Automatically Superior. I said This; "Also, It is Not Really true that a Nation with an official Religion would Automatically Impose that Religion on its Citizens." You said This; “True, in England, Anglicanism is the state religion, but it's not imposed The issue is that this religion has advantages over other religions” Why is it an issue? If We All have Freedom its Not a Real Problem. This nxt bit is Historically Iunnaccurate and also Missed the Point. I said; "I could for example say Christians believe in Allowing Freedom of Choice in Religious Matters thus to Christian Nation ever Denied You Freedom, and if You Point to Any which did, I could simply say they were Not Truly Christian." You said; “So all medieval european monarchies were not truly christian?” Not by Your No True Secularism Line of Thinking. The Entire Point I made was that You Discount as Secular Anything that Does Not Conform to Your Narrative that a Secular Society Allows Freedom. If We do not Count Communist Nations as Secular, for Example, Why should those Hypothetical European Medieval Monarchies Qualify as Christian? You Exclude Communist Governments from Secularism simply because they Run Contrary to Your Desired Result that secular Nations Grant Freedom, Which is Inherantly Dishoinest. “And the issue is not that if they were really christian or not, the issue is that they used christianity to repress other beliefs” Communists used Secularism and Atheists to Repress Other Beliefs. And Still do. “Secularism can prevent that because there's no discrimination of some beliefs over the other” Rubbish. Seciular states Favour Their secularist Religion over Others and Communism proves Secularism Can Easily lead to Repression of Beliefs and Impositions and Loss of Freedom. This is Why Secularism leads to tyranny. I said; ""And in a secular country, the credibility of any spiritual experience will be denied" So Secularism is Not about Freedom. Secularism is Also Not about Truth." You said; “So secularism will simply not promote the interpretation of one's "truth" over the other You can still believe what you want, but you can't make laws based on your beliefs because it will apply to everyone, even those with no or other beliefs” Of Course All Laws are based on Beliefs. If You have a law that says Do Not Steal You believe people can pOwn Things that can be taken by others, and that it is Wrong to do so. If You say it is Illegal to enter a house and Kick out the people Living There and take Over, you have Beliefs about Pousing and Land and Rights. If You believe it is wrong to Kill People and call it Murder, that is belief. All laws are based on Beliefs. And by Putting “Truth” in Quotation makes, you are saying I am Free to believe in lies. My “Truth” in quotation mark is understood as not Really true, and Only the truth secularists Know is “Real Truth: can be imposed on Us all. You Still End up Favouring Your Secularist Religion. I see no Reason Why Your Beliefs should be the basis of All Laws. I Certainly Resent having My Beliefs called Lies by saying they are only my “Truth” in Quote marks and Yours are not just You “Truth” in Quote mark, and Not Your “Truth” at all, but THE TRUTH. If Being a secularist means you are Always Right and I am a delusional Fool. How Free and Liberating your Secularism is. We are all Free to Agree with You, or else we are Free to live in the Shadows with No Say in Society. What Wonderful Freedom that is. This is Nonsense. “I would say secularism is based on the assumption that all beliefs are equal and one shouldn't be promoted or valued over the other And that arguments should be made based on something we can all agree on, not something some people with a specific set of spiritual beliefs can“ There is Nothing We All Agree on. That is Why people Debate Things. And Materialist Assumptions do Not Really Find us in Universal Agreement Either. I Agree more with Har Krishnas I Talked To than I do Atheists who Push Secularism. People of Diverse Religions can Debate Topics and Don;t have to Embrace Cultural Atheistic Secular Humanism and a Materialist Perspective to do so. What You Don't Understand is, Your secularism carries its Own assumptions about ow the World works and What a Society Should and should not be like and Allow and Disallow, and Your Secularism is Not going to End Division in Society, it is Causing it. This is Unworkable. “Sorry if I came like that, I'm not anti-religion or anti-theist or anything like that, I'm completely neutral when it comes to religion in the political sphere” That is Not really Possible. “I don't assume anything, I'm not denying one's experience and spiritual beliefs, I just think those beliefs belong to the person and the person only (and can be talked to with other persons belonging to the same religion), and thus shouldn't be used for making policies because we can't argue about what someone's spiritual experience as we can argue about arguments in favor and against” Everyone Bring their personal expensiveness to The Table, and shouldnt; have to Seal off psrt pf Who They are to Be Allowed to make Decisions. Especially since Religious Belief is not just Some Abstract set of Personal Experiences.
@someul
@someul 4 ай бұрын
You're confusing secularism and anti-theism. Like WTF. Just look at a definition of secularism and you'd know what it is. If the government favor or disfavor religion, it's not secular. Period. As in US constitution, no favouritism or discrimination regarding religion.
@laszlokiss483
@laszlokiss483 24 күн бұрын
When you amend the constitution to ban religion in public schools at the state level that is "disfavoring" religion the "separation of church and state" phrase people use largely goes back to Hugo Blacks quote on the SCOTUS ruling in Everson vs The Board of Education but prior to that ruling the right to read the bible in public schools was respected. Our rights come from God first and foremost the government is merely there to safeguard them and when they stop doing so it is our obligation to replace said government the founding fathers couldn't have made that any clearer.
@someul
@someul 24 күн бұрын
You didn't have the right to read the Bible in public schools because of the first amendment or in spite of the first amendment? Separation of the church and the state is a secular ideaology long before 1947.
@laszlokiss483
@laszlokiss483 24 күн бұрын
@@someul Yet it doesn't mean what you think it does you can read Jefferson's letters on the matter in full if you beg to differ and hes largely seen as the most secular of the founding fathers. The notion that the "separation of church and state" was what lefties say it is now is laughable and ahistorical. It was to protect the church from the state not the other way around up until Everson vs The Board of Education and the now famous quote from Justice black which again is where modern libs get their understanding of "separation of church and state" from. Up until 1947 it was common to have public school readings from the bible. This specific legislative power was not delegated to the federal government for a purpose and can you tell me what it means when a specific power is not delegated to the federal government ??? Where does that power fall back to ? This was obviously a way to safe guard the church from the state not the other way around LOL if the founding fathers wanted the federal government to have that power they would have delegated it that power but their not doing so shows their intent to protect the church with the enumeration clause giving each state and thus the people to choose how they will be legislated in their state. So the bible belt would have public church schools and the rest of the country probably wouldn't and you can choose which kind of state you'd like to live in by voting or moving.
@alisenarahimi1461
@alisenarahimi1461 4 ай бұрын
Gandhi’s seven social sins: 1. Wealth without work 2. Pleasure without conscience 3. Knowledge without character 4. Commerce without morality 5. Science without humanity 6. Religion without Sacrifice 7. Politics without principle The root of all problems in the world…
@wojciechmotkowski4804
@wojciechmotkowski4804 3 ай бұрын
6. means nothing
@joey.99
@joey.99 2 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with rejecting peoples spirtual claims if they're not true. They also can't all be true at once because all religions contradict each other. I don't get your point on that front
@tebogo743
@tebogo743 15 күн бұрын
4:42 You mention how stigmatizing against religious groups can lead to discrimination and prejudice against religious minorities, well, the same can be said in a non-secular community, and in some instances minorities in non secular societies experience way worse prejudice such as death penalty for apostasy. Secularism is always the better option.
@Paul-zf6uk
@Paul-zf6uk 11 ай бұрын
I think ''Secularism'' to the extent that it means that adherents do their practices without imposing it by any means on others, is frankly quite in tandem with the practice of any form of spirituality. However, when secularism suggests to build a society that opposes the spiritual and deeper moral dimensions of the human experience, that is definitely a bad idea for the society on the long-term.
@MGrey-qb5xz
@MGrey-qb5xz 10 ай бұрын
the latter is commonly associated with secularism.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 6 ай бұрын
Different, certainly not "deeper".
@dapunkof1975
@dapunkof1975 Ай бұрын
Look at these secular apologist huffin and puffin. Love the video btw.
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davidbrown5185
@davidbrown5185 5 ай бұрын
There is no problem with secularism. The problems all stem from religions. We are all born atheists. Theism has to be taught. Which religion you believe in, is only due to where you were born. The world would be better without religions. That view doesn’t make me a Communist
@abdulhanan8935
@abdulhanan8935 5 ай бұрын
Not when you're on a plane waiting to crash. Then suddenly you realized there's a higher power and hope it will save you.
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 5 ай бұрын
@abdulhanan8935 this is true.
@davidbrown5185
@davidbrown5185 5 ай бұрын
@@abdulhanan8935 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 we’ve all got to go sometime. But I don’t believe in anything after death.
@TonyFontaine1988
@TonyFontaine1988 5 ай бұрын
If humans are born atheist, how did religion come then? Really low quality comment
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 4 ай бұрын
Religion and Theism are Not the same Thing, and being an Atheist does not make One Non-Religious. And Really, We are Not All Born Atheists, and Secularism is itself a Religion. Saying The World would be better without Religion is Silly. Its also a Lie to say We Only Follow a Religion based on Geography. That is Clearly not True. And the Irony is, most Atheists are Concentratred in Specific Geographical Locations, notably in Europe or North America. One can easily Argue You are Only an Atheist base don where You were Born., Especially given You Quoted all this Gibberish from an Atheist Website.
@SeanRhoadesChristopher
@SeanRhoadesChristopher 4 сағат бұрын
Secularism has allowed other ideologies such as scientism, feminism, relativism, and egalitarianism to become the new religion of our country.
@secularsunshine9036
@secularsunshine9036 6 ай бұрын
*Keep your Faith and keep your candle, for the Sun is Sure to Rise.* Wishing you all a Wonderful Winter Solstice. A traditional celebration dating back over 5000 years ago where the Sun is literally rebirthed in the passageway of an ancient tomb. "The Grand Passage Tomb." A World Heritage site. Witness the rebirth in person. A celebration of life and renewal, peace and camaraderie with food, song, dance, drink and good cheer. Happy Holidays. Let the Sunshine In... *Be Happy* "Solstice Night by S J Tucker" The Christians Murdered Nicolaus Copernicus because he believed that the Earth orbits the Sun.The flat Earth that sets on five pillars and with a crystal dome.
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
Secularism in America has been a huge failure which explains why wokeism is replacing traditions and religions in the first place. Pro choice, veganism, transgenderism, anti racism, Climate change, socialism, LGBTQ, communism, covidism and multiculturalism have become secular religions in America or the Anglo world in general. Once religion or traditions decline, it will most likely be replaced by something else
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 Жыл бұрын
You’ve got it!
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
@@allthingshumanities5328 thnx bro
@biterness2323
@biterness2323 Жыл бұрын
All these wicked ideas don’t have any solid foundation to preserve their influence and hegemony in people’s minds. That is why the west will either get replaced by a more fundamentalist external force or become more conservative to eradicate these ideas if they want to survive.
@guyguy7634
@guyguy7634 Жыл бұрын
Well why is that a bad thing? Why does treating lgbtq people with equal rights, giving women the right over their own bodies and seeing that climate change and covid are threats to society a bad thing? How does having a society where Christian fundamentalist society where individual freedom is taken away and people are persecuted if they aren’t part of Christianity any better? First off what even is the definition of wolf because that word has been thrown so much to just mean, “what I don’t like about society”
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
@@guyguy7634 abortion is bad and immoral. Pro life or right wingers are correct about the abortion issue. Abortion is wrong because it is murder. A guy on Joe rogan named Babylonbee gave a very good secular argument against abortion
@Flags.crosses.trailerparks
@Flags.crosses.trailerparks 28 күн бұрын
I see no problem
@jaybhavani8416
@jaybhavani8416 3 ай бұрын
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@IanM-rl1pu
@IanM-rl1pu 5 ай бұрын
The problem with secularism is that it doesn’t put my faith before everyone else’s (mine is the right one) Faith: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. Your faith is no more important than the faith anyone else. Therefore the only way to stop conflict based on zero proof is to leave it at home. You do not need a god or religion to know the difference between right and wrong.
@longjunior7638
@longjunior7638 4 ай бұрын
how would you explain objective right and wrong cause that why we believer god is the ordainer of objective morals.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 6 ай бұрын
Are you a theist? Your wording seems to portray that.
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 6 ай бұрын
I am
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 Жыл бұрын
Secularism is nearly impossible to a certain extent because religion and politics are largely intertwined. Western culture was founded on judeo Christian values and religion has a huge impact in human evolution. Secularism is pretty impossible because the government can’t force people not to vote or make political decisions based on their religious interests. Even removing religion out of public life is also a bad thing
@MGrey-qb5xz
@MGrey-qb5xz 10 ай бұрын
yet people try and try, all the while ignoring their own flaws and inhumane acts
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson 8 ай бұрын
And that's why it's a problem to have religion involve in politics or state affairs and why secularism is a thing
@RedH3
@RedH3 7 ай бұрын
No such thing as Judeo-Christian values. Judaism is not Christianity.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 7 ай бұрын
@@miguelatkinsonSecularism is a Religion in its Own Right and Secularists are Not Kno0wn for Tolerance or allowing Freedom or Maximising Freedom.
@joshuacooperseo
@joshuacooperseo 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@miguelatkinsonIf you remove one religion, another form of religion “secularism” will be in control. That’s what’s happening now in America and look how trash society is 😂. I think the fall away from Christian values and increase in homicides, suicides, domestic terrorism, Marxism, sexually transmitted diseases, other diseases, pedophilia, perverted society, mental health issues, greed, hate, arrogance, lack of love, corruption, theft. But this is all predicted in the word of God.
@ingenuity296
@ingenuity296 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't the bible mention dinosaurs, galaxies, universe, electricity, steam powered engine, jet engines , bacteria, germs or cancer?
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 4 ай бұрын
Cancer is mentioned, so is The Universe, and I am Not sure why Not mentioning something in The Bible is Relevant for Anything.
@ingenuity296
@ingenuity296 4 ай бұрын
@@skwills1629 the relevance in the fact that the bible is not a good manual for present life.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 4 ай бұрын
@@ingenuity296 - The Bible is The Best Guidance for Life in Any Time Period, and I see No Reason to Beleive Nonsensical and Hateful idiocy from Atheist Who Push Discredited Secularist Ideas that gave us Communism and Fascism. By the way the whole Slavery Nonsense Yoyu Idiotas Spew is Innacurate too, and Christians don;t Push for Slavery because The Bible Teaches THem Not to.
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 6 ай бұрын
Secularism is one of the many awful ideas from The Enlightenment. Some where, some religion, will have laws and principles which line up with your secular laws. It's like declaring a "war on terrorism" it is impossible to win and leads to a constant conflict.
@LeonardLeon
@LeonardLeon 6 ай бұрын
How is secularism an awful idea? It promotes laws and rules based on rationality, instead of authority of religious nutjobs. How is this a bad thing?
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 6 ай бұрын
@@LeonardLeon Rationality? If that's the case why do republics come up with different ideas of morality and ethics? America and the Soviet union were both rational republics and yet came up with different codes of ethics and morals (often changing them for the benefit of the state). Also morality is not something that should constantly change and the state ends up forcing it's beliefs onto everyone while claiming to protect the people's beliefs. Also the morality stems from the religion of a republics founders not from the state itself.
@hanssvineklev648
@hanssvineklev648 6 ай бұрын
@@LeonardLeon. As many have theorized, secularism is a myth. Take it out of its abstract state, and its neutrality cannot persist. There is no true separation of church and state. Secular progressivism merely replaces less materialistic systems with a brand new hegemonic religion. We are starting to see the results of that now, and the results are anything but pretty. I don’t have any idea what actually WILL work to produce a tolerant society, but this ain’t it!
@enzoarayamorales7220
@enzoarayamorales7220 5 ай бұрын
@@cfroi08this is a problem with religion too just because religion claims it’s morals are absolute doesn’t mean they actually are as evidenced by history, what makes purely secular moral justification marginally better is the fact that said justification are actually observable and aren’t based on purely abstract ideas about virtue and being pure
@cfroi08
@cfroi08 5 ай бұрын
@@enzoarayamorales7220 There's no such thing as purely abstract or purely rational. Spartans thought throwing deformed babies off of a cliff was purely rational. Early Roman Christians and Christians to this day adopt unwanted babies left to die. Indeed if one is purely rational and abstract there is no need to help those who are objectively inferior to us. As far as the exceptions to morality in Christianity, it is always condemned by The Church and never the State.
@Nerian-pp5ee
@Nerian-pp5ee Ай бұрын
What Dillahunty basically says is: "We can't account for consciousness and it is mysterious...but your answers are invalid because I know that only the methods of physical science can explain it because only physical science can answer questions because everything is physical."-A dogmatic commitment to physicalism and scientism makes people say the craziest things; and they think they're just being rational when they're just reasserting physicalism. Physicalism: Everything is physical so everything can be accounted for by physical processes. Everything can be accounted for by physical processes because everything is physical.
@tommyvictorbuch6960
@tommyvictorbuch6960 7 ай бұрын
A secular system is a sane system. The God delusion poisons everything.
@souzajustin19d
@souzajustin19d 7 ай бұрын
That's bad bait
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 7 ай бұрын
Right. That is WHy Secularism leads to Tyranny and Wastral Lives.
@joshuacooperseo
@joshuacooperseo 6 ай бұрын
We’ll explain why America is becoming more immoral, violent and corrupt as we have moved into a secular system?
@abdulhanan8935
@abdulhanan8935 5 ай бұрын
Sane enough to churn deluded people like you thinking you hold the power on yourself. You wouldn't even know where, when and how you die. Let alone stop it.
@peterjackbenson
@peterjackbenson 4 ай бұрын
What exactly is the "God delusion"? Why did you capitalize god if you don't believe in a god as a supreme being? It's like capitalizing "truth" if you don't believe there is a universal truth. I'd research the perennial philosophy before you can claim to understand the belief in a universal being. I'd say that anti-theism is the poison and is most often linked to ignorance (limited understanding). I don't like when any person claims to be knowledgeable about religion when they only understand one aspect of it. Same goes for theologists-- theology is the study of religion, and a theologist who only understands one religion shouldn't be claiming the title.
@Skyking6976
@Skyking6976 4 ай бұрын
There has been about 1,000 religions over human history. Many of those gods were born of a virgin with a “heavenly” father and gods have “risen” from the dead. All before Christianity. Did ya know that? AND did you know we are all atheists to those religions except one…think about it.
@Jusjusjd
@Jusjusjd 8 ай бұрын
Secularism is good because it separates religion and government, promoting fairness and inclusivity for al…
@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger
@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger 8 ай бұрын
I see the opposite.
@FrozenSpector
@FrozenSpector 8 ай бұрын
@@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger Consider the position of power of one religion which you do not practice holding influence over government. Would your opinion be protected or squandered? Secularism provides equal protections for both parties to choose to either be religious or not without enforcing one view onto the other. You’d be free to practice instead of forced to obey the dominant religion in charge.
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 8 ай бұрын
Secularism doesn't necessarily lead to a more peaceful and religiously tolerant society
@rogeramezquita5685
@rogeramezquita5685 7 ай бұрын
I disagree look we’re we at at a secular society while is a good thing in politics it’s crashing the human spirit with libertinage and shallow ideas ..
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 7 ай бұрын
@@FrozenSpector - Why don't You Imagine a Secular Society where Religion is Suppressed in the Name of Freedom, Tolerance, and Safety? By the way it is Not True that By Defini9tion Religion is Antethetical to Freedom and Would Dominate Others. There is No Reason to Think This. And considering what Peter Boghossian and Steven Pinker and Yuval Noah Hararim Say, such as Demanding if Religious Values Conflict with Religious Values The Religious Must set aside their Religion in the Name of Secularism, it Really doesn't Strike Me as Freedom. It Looks like Forced Compliance and Mandatory Obedience to the Religion Of Secularism.
@wandefter
@wandefter 3 ай бұрын
This is a terrible representation of secularism. Most of the issues in this video stem from a misunderstanding of what secularism is and what its principles are by the author of this video.
@df6580
@df6580 Жыл бұрын
Ancient Greeks had a religion, man is god, Gnosticism. Reason is based on natural law, if you have need of something, you take it. Human Rights is based on natural law, replace the 10 commandments. Human Rights can be given and/or taken away from the government. You have a right to have a job, free education, free shelter, or more extreme you can have a right to pornography, right to marry an animal, right to be a pedophile and not be prosecuted for it.
@allthingshumanities5328
@allthingshumanities5328 Жыл бұрын
So, do you agree with natural law theory? Thomas Aquinas and Aristotle were very big on it.
@eriksucioboy686
@eriksucioboy686 Жыл бұрын
Do you hold these beliefs?
@WaveRider1989
@WaveRider1989 11 ай бұрын
​@@eriksucioboy686aham bhramasmi. Look it up
@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946
@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 10 ай бұрын
That's why we should call it as "Sickularism" or " Sickfellow ism"😀
@marlinkhoshababratdeel2250
@marlinkhoshababratdeel2250 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information and understanding of faith. It’s a little deeper than what she’s talking about specially Christian faith is not about Jesus and making miracles that’s wrong. It is about to find yourself to believe in your heart. There’s a power above you recall it our God in heaven, our father it’s not about Jesus Jesus he made sure people understood. There is a power above and be free like your father in heaven that’s what he said my people peers from lack of knowledge that’s what he said be like a dog and be aware like a snake that’s what he said about Jesus and his miracle about he made us understand. There is a power above us. and about Mohammed he does not exist and whatever it’s written in their book it’s borrowed and copy it and stolen from Christianity and other religion in the world. It’s a fake religion Islam. It’s a fake religion. It’s not a lion movement so get your story right please do not compare christianity there’s no comparison no comparison please I’m not prejudice, but I know it very well. I know the sources I know where they came from.
@Yoyoarab123
@Yoyoarab123 2 ай бұрын
We muslims say no. We want sharia
@starcrib
@starcrib 8 ай бұрын
Religion Poisons Everything- by the Great Christopher Hitchens. 🔳🔳🟥🔳🌬✝️🕯
@fifthelementisHstring
@fifthelementisHstring 8 ай бұрын
So true!
@jonjonboi3701
@jonjonboi3701 8 ай бұрын
Nah Christopher Hitchens speaks nonsense
@starcrib
@starcrib 8 ай бұрын
@@jonjonboi3701------‐- 🐩💨
@RedH3
@RedH3 7 ай бұрын
Cope
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 7 ай бұрын
The Joke is You Quote Hitchens like a Christian would The Bible and pretend You have No Religion.
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