The profound beauty in this early Ravel piece

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Skylar Lim

Skylar Lim

Ай бұрын

Ravel’s Pavane pour une infante défunte hints towards a slow processional dance in Europe during the Renaissance. His teacher at the time, Gabriel Fauré, had written a Pavane as well in 1887 and we see certain similarities in terms of texture and modal harmony. Ravel himself also admitted to a strong influence from Chabrier at the time and we see this particularly in his use of unprepared dissonances, the 7th and 9th, which we can see in some of Chabrier’s later pieces (Feuillet d’album 1889). In any case, the modal harmonies used constantly create an ambiguity of tonality and this contributes to a kind of distant antiquity in its character. The piece begins in G major but already in the second bar we have a small cadence in E aeolian and the melody itself doesn’t really outline G major but hints more towards E aeolian. A harmonic analysis in E aeolian seems plausible as well and I could hear bars 5-6 as a sort of half cadence in E aeolian too.
Ravel’s pianistic textures here are lean and minimal, a far cry from what will come in his lisztian-like virtuosity in Jeux d’eau 2 years later. Yet we already see some of the harmonic devices that he'll continue to exploit in later years like chordal planing, insistent pedal points and an affinity for seventh and ninth chords.
Recording (Elena Kuschnerova) : • Maurice Ravel - Pavane...

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@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
This piece will always have a special place in my heart. Discovered it in one of those piano books with a variety of other famous pieces like Satie's Gymnopedie no.1 and Brahms' intermezzo in A major but the Pavane was the one I'd immediately fell in love with. I showed the piece to my piano teacher and told her about this composer I've never heard of "reh-vl", she laughed and insisted that I listen to Ravel's Introduction and Allegro for harp, and my love for Ravel began from there...
@duryi6399
@duryi6399 Ай бұрын
Listen to the orchestral version, Ravel is the best orchestrator
@waliaphellps1745
@waliaphellps1745 Ай бұрын
@@duryi6399… or at least they have told you so, so you repeat it.
@giampierogirolamo7134
@giampierogirolamo7134 Ай бұрын
nothing bad in repeating something true
@waliaphellps1745
@waliaphellps1745 Ай бұрын
@@giampierogirolamo7134 Of course, but you know what I mean, don't you?
@kirbyyourenthusiasm
@kirbyyourenthusiasm Ай бұрын
Little fun fact about this piece: Despite the name "Pavane for a Dead Princess", it's not actually about a dead princess at all. Ravel said it was actually about "a princess of the past" and that he just liked the sound of it. EDIT: Also he was 24, WOW
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
I found it horribly difficult to pronounce back then, I still do.
@whateverfin
@whateverfin Ай бұрын
There are some murmurings in the french horn world that the "princess" is the old valveless horn, and the new valved horn is singing in memory of her predecessor. I really doubt there is any validity there, but it's something we like to say within the horn community :)
@whateverfin
@whateverfin Ай бұрын
Obviously that really only applies to the orchestrated version, but it's still cute to think about hahaha
@NHO12209
@NHO12209 Ай бұрын
​@@whateverfinthat's a really fun idea😂
@russellbaston974
@russellbaston974 Ай бұрын
Although Ravel was rather enigmatic about the Princess, he did say it was evoked by “the Princess in the painting by Velasquez “. Ravel’s family on his mother’s side were Spanish. The painting is Las Meninas and the princess is the Infanta Margarita Teresa, the word defunte also means ‘departed’ and Ravel imho was writing as much about an age gone by, departed, as an individual.
@AydarAkhmady
@AydarAkhmady Ай бұрын
I remember how much I cried when I listened to it for the first time.
@BsktImp
@BsktImp Ай бұрын
I think I discovered this piece in mid-teens and late when I was going through a rough time at university I think I had the orchestral version on near-constant loop. It's such a contemplative, reflective piece of music. I know if's poor form to pick favourite bits but the diminuendo and harp arpeggio around 02:47 'gets me' everytime.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
Who ever said it's bad to pick favourite bits?
@marinadela1361
@marinadela1361 5 күн бұрын
"Poor form" where did you ever get that from? It's only human nature.
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 27 күн бұрын
2:09 - 17 most Ravel sounding chord progression ever
@nourytime9804
@nourytime9804 Ай бұрын
Was just listening to this before you made this video, what great timing!
@Lion_online
@Lion_online Ай бұрын
The transition B theme from shady heart-wrenching oboe solo to ppp strings yet illuminated with warm harmonies is one of the most moving parts for me. Young Ravel's undeniable talent is sparkling everywhere in this piece. Thank you for picking up my favourite composer of all. Please do more!
@cecilgriffiths6399
@cecilgriffiths6399 Ай бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous piece of music! 🙏🙌❤️
@tzk667
@tzk667 28 күн бұрын
I’ve been playing this on repeat lately!!! Then your video popped up on my KZfaq today 😁😁
@user-zf1ub9ee4c
@user-zf1ub9ee4c Ай бұрын
This stopped me in my tracks and took me into a contemplative peace. I feel my small soft smile, closed eyes with tears, deep breathing…such beauty that gave a broken heart a desire to love again.
@claudefazio
@claudefazio Ай бұрын
A beautiful, wistful early work of Ravel, which he wrote while attending the Paris Conservatory. The piece is at times challenging to play though it looks deceptively easy on the score.
@donotapply6202
@donotapply6202 Ай бұрын
Thank you I love this piece!!!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
So do I!
@VeronikaPianist
@VeronikaPianist Ай бұрын
Wow amazing👏👏❤️
@user-ol4bg6mb8u
@user-ol4bg6mb8u 24 күн бұрын
Check out the version of this by John Williams and Julian Bream. Perfect.
@vibey8558
@vibey8558 Ай бұрын
Coincidentally, I've been listening to multiple recordings of this piece and wanted to analyse it to better my own compositions. Thanks a lot for your videos and efforts!!!!❤
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
Richter's version is unbeatable imo
@mattwallis1893
@mattwallis1893 Ай бұрын
Good one Skylar!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
Thanks Matt, hope you're well.
@albal156
@albal156 Ай бұрын
I played this piece adapted for french horn for my Grade 6 I think. Its such a beautiful piece by Ravel. Did he do this for piano first and then adapt it for orchestra?
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
Exactly! It was very common for ravel to write his piano pieces first and orchestrate them later on, the question is whether he'd written his piano pieces with the orchestra in mind.
@nasmythpreacher3260
@nasmythpreacher3260 Ай бұрын
Gorgeous one, even if it did take me by surprise since I'm used to hearing it on the French Horn in an orchestral setting! Which is still just as gorgeous on the piano, given the clarity of the harmony in the left hand which is not as clearly heard in the horn solo version!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
It's hard to choose between the original piano versions and the orchestra ones sometimes...to me it seems like there's more leeway for rubato and interesting voicings when it's solo piano.
@evanever
@evanever Ай бұрын
I have been trying to write a pavane inspired by this and of course Faure's f-sharp minor pavane. It's very difficult to capture the sense of timelessness that they both do. And how does someone write a melody like that?!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
The secret is in the modality and 7th chords
@sanjosemike3137
@sanjosemike3137 23 күн бұрын
Ravel had a particular genius for orchestration. I don't know if any other composer (exception Rimsky Korsakov) who was as talented. But his gift for heartbreakingly beautiful melodies was right at the top. (The Mother Goose Suite). There are others of course. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@MisterPathetique
@MisterPathetique Ай бұрын
I hope you'll cover some bits of Daphnis et Chloé at some point!
@armaxs28
@armaxs28 Ай бұрын
Absolutely delicious.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Ай бұрын
Do you think Ravel might have been partially inspired by Chopin's étude op. 10 no. 3?
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
How so?
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Ай бұрын
@@skylarlimex I tried playing it and the lower line in the right hand feels similar, but it might just be a coincidence
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
@@johnchessant3012 I see what you mean. Perhaps it'd be interesting to see what other piano pieces have a similar configuration...
@DevrimJan
@DevrimJan Ай бұрын
@@skylarlimexthe A theme from the adagio cantabile in Beethoven’s opus 13 comes to mind.
@koshcheithedeathless
@koshcheithedeathless Ай бұрын
​@@DevrimJan та фактура, которая в начале Паванны - это в принципе фактура, свойственная хоральным прелюдиям - как например Хоральная прелюдия f-moll Баха. Вот Вы еще вспомнили примеры использования фактуры хоральной прелюдии - медленная часть из "Патетической" сонаты Бетховена. А если говорить про этюд Шопена N3 из op.10, то там имеено поющая фактура и в сопрано - подражание belcanto
@samueltaylor9935
@samueltaylor9935 Ай бұрын
This piece been remixed twice: The Lamp is Low --> Aruarian Dance.
@tasthearchivist
@tasthearchivist 29 күн бұрын
Is it common to write the half note and have the quarter notes like that, in the first bar, instead of using tied quarter notes? (novice at music notation)
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 29 күн бұрын
Do you mean eighth notes? I don't see any other way to write the first bar...
@tasthearchivist
@tasthearchivist 29 күн бұрын
@@skylarlimex Yes. I see, thanks.
@ikego98
@ikego98 Ай бұрын
I would actually analyse the whole A section in E aeolian, with a v - i cadence on bar 2, a Phrygian cadence on bar 6 and a cadence on e aeolian again at the start of bar 11 (bars 8 and 9 would indeed be a ii - V in G major, but with a deceptive cadence leading back to e aeolian. The chord planing stopping on the b minor chord would then serve as a preparation for the b pedal point in the next section
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you and I had to consider the two options. The cadences do seem to allude to E aeolian, though the piece does start in G major and alludes to G major quite a fair bit too. I concluded with a mid ground of sorts by doing the harmonic analysis in G major and stating that an analysis in E aeolian is completely valid. I find that Ravel's music is often ambiguously modal, even the B theme seems to be in B aeolian but the cadences are in D major...
@ikego98
@ikego98 Ай бұрын
@@skylarlimex absolutely! The whole piece (and indeed a lot of Ravel's work) seems to play with ambiguity, often leading to different completely plausible analyses, depending on how one hears the music.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
@@ikego98 thanks for confirming that I'm not indeed crazy 😅
@goothi8443
@goothi8443 28 күн бұрын
what piece is this?
@fantom9611
@fantom9611 Ай бұрын
Очень похоже визуально на тему Chopin Etude op. 10 no 3
@luckdemirz6542
@luckdemirz6542 Ай бұрын
Serú Girán Reference 0:48
@geopaxo
@geopaxo Күн бұрын
I can’t lie I much prefer the version with horn solo
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Күн бұрын
Coming from a hornist, I can't say I'm surprised
@meme-ek2hc
@meme-ek2hc Ай бұрын
Rachmaninoff's Elegie no 3 please!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Ай бұрын
That might be possible!
@meme-ek2hc
@meme-ek2hc Ай бұрын
@@skylarlimex Thank you!
@tatanedupont6400
@tatanedupont6400 29 күн бұрын
The real title of this piece is: “Pavane pour une Infante Défunte”. The English translation does not capture the beauty of the French expression. An Infanta being a Spanish Princess, daughter of the King. Maurice Ravel being born in the French Basque Country, he was very influenced by Hispanic culture such as "Boléro", "Rapsodie Espagne" or "Alborada del gracioso". Created in 1899 for the Princess de Polignac, her patron, this piece was first played by a friend, the Catalan pianist Ricardo Viñes in Barcelona in 1902, before its orchestration in 1910.
@An-br7hb
@An-br7hb Ай бұрын
Name?
@jensthunbo
@jensthunbo 7 күн бұрын
Maurice Ravel: Pavane pour une infante defunte He made a beautiful version for orchestra, too. But the theme and chords speak for themselves. I fell in love with this piece in my youth, hearing a duo arrangement by the renowned guitarists Julian Bream and John Williams.
@normalizedaudio2481
@normalizedaudio2481 Ай бұрын
We got to slur our rests. These notations are so strange like Jazz is strange too. Parallel 5th 01:34 Bad boy.
@alexshih3747
@alexshih3747 Ай бұрын
This is probably the saddest piece ever written in a major key.
how to pull at one's heartstrings
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