THE Progressive Press Shootout (12 presses compared)

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THE Progressive Press Shootout (12 presses compared)

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Here it is! The long-awaited Progressive Press Shootout! This article and accompanying video is the most exhaustive and most in-depth look at progressive press reloading equipment. My goal is to help raise your level of awareness regarding what’s on the market and also to supply you with the insights, data, and supporting information to make informed purchasing decisions. Let’s get to it!
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
04:22 Hornady Lock-N-Load AP
13:43 RCBS Pro Chucker 5 & Pro Chucker 7
22:02 Mark 7 APEX 10
31:49 Dillon Square Deal B
35:39 Dillon RL-550C
39:20 Dillon XL-750
43:47 Dillon RL 1100
46:42 Frankford Arsenal X-10
54:44 LEE Pro 1000
1:01:44 LEE Breech Lock Auto Pro (Pro 4000)
1:05:30 LEE Loadmaster
1:10:32 Total Cost of Ownership Recap
1:14:06 Inline Fabrication Mounts
1:14:45 KMS Squared UFO Press Lighting
1:15:03 Conclusion
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@PastaLaVista. 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t say I’m not disappointed in this “comparison”. The thing I waited two years for was mostly to see which progressive press loaded the best ammo. Concentricity, accuracy tests etc. maybe which one has the best powder measure or what ones the fastest, smoothest, most ergonomic. These are things people can not learn themselves without taking random guys word on forums. You would need to buy and then try. What we got is a brief overview of specs, accessories, and price, which can be come by through basic research. I don’t even know how this would take two years. Almost like it’s targeted to those brand new to reloading and don’t even know what a progressive press advantages are. Most of us know what can be done with more stations and that you can add case and bullet feeders. The things we are unable to learn ourselves are the exact things you did not cover.

@kdglock4491 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda agree with you.

@BCGCPracticalShooter 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Jim-oo7dk 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch the entire thing with rapt attention, but it sounds like you got some legit complaint. Demand your money back!

@JR-lg7fd 2 жыл бұрын

cool life story kid

@joemass1023 2 жыл бұрын

Shill city is what it was unfortunately

@willspathtoprecision2924 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I was Instantly!!! Upset!!! 🤦🏻 when he said he will not be testing the presses performance of ammo!! The MAIN purpose, for most of us who have been waiting to see this for SO LONG! Was to see what Progressive Press Make the most “ CONSISTENT AMMO!!! “ Good job for all your hard work, much appreciated and I’m sure it will help some people make a decision, So thank you for all that! But it’s not what most people have been waiting for.

@PastaLaVista. 2 жыл бұрын

If you compared the single stage shootout with this one, you’d think you were watching two different channels, one of which earned every subscriber he has, while the other one might as well be an automaton preloaded with marketing material by the reloading companies.

@armalite3009 2 жыл бұрын

Too much hype and expectations were set way too high. Should help some new people though. Maybe there will be another video that is a real shootout.

@ShaneBruce3 2 жыл бұрын

@@armalite3009 Agreed. Def helped me weed through the different options. Gavin is always putting out new content, so I am sure the ammo testing content will eventually be there and available....maybe not in one concise video, but still there as a resource

@buzby80 2 жыл бұрын

@@PastaLaVista. about 50% of this channel is just a commercial anymore.

@iamspeare 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more, the #1 piece of information I wanted/needed/waited for from this video wasn't there... While appreciate a one stop rundown of presses, the ciritcal info that honestly matters the most is missing, hard to overlook that.

@thecrusaders2516 10 ай бұрын

I have to give you a big thumbs up on all the work it took to put this together. Great presentation!

@PracticallySquared1 2 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that you shared some negitive things. It always feels disingenuous when you watch a review/comparison and it comes off like an infomercial. You did an excellent job here of being honest, yet not "burying" any company's. Kudos and Great work!

@gasconader1150 9 ай бұрын

When discussing Dillon loaders I was waiting for you to mention one of the most important specs. The lifetime warranty. I have two 550s over 15 years old and have loaded so much ammo on them that one has been rebuilt once and the other twice. Free. Something breaks or wears out, they have replaced it or provided parts to rebuild it. Plus, I understood you to talk about "manual index" as a negative. You can index as slowly as you want or as fast when it is manual. If you are loading an almost full pistol case you can index slow enough that you aren't jumping powder out. A positive to me.

@drummer0864 7 ай бұрын

Great video for making the final decision after going back and forth for a long time. Thanks

@Friedbrain11 2 жыл бұрын

I am definitely interested in the X10 from Franklin Armory. Really great demonstration and the pros and cons as presented are fantastic. In-depth and succinct. The fact that you have used some of the reloaders gives you insight and knowledge that you pass on freely. You are a big help to me!

@Jdwg1972 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t imagine how long this video took to edit and put together. Thanks for all your hard work, Gavin. Always contributing. Although I would like to see an ammo consistency comparison between the presses, I imagine it would be motion picture in length. Thanks again for the information.

@xephael3485 Жыл бұрын

Probably just an hour and a half..🤪

@czgunner 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really happy with my Hornady LNL the last 12 years. Never a single issue.

@coldrevengeukraine Жыл бұрын

Wanna buy one, please tell, could I reload soviet rifle cals? 308 win?

@bobmanny5927 Жыл бұрын

Never once reloaded a single cartridge. But that'll change. Thanks for the many reloading videos.

@bobmanny5927 Жыл бұрын

Ps: going single stage. Not getting a mark 7 or something crazy. Thanks again.

@robertstrickland2121 2 жыл бұрын

I use a loadmaster, but deprime on a C-press, and prime on a bench prime. Only clean primed cases are ever on the press so it stays clean. Resize on 1, powder on 2, powder-cop on 3, seat on 4, crimp on 5. This arrangement solved all my problems with the loadmaster.

@bruceinoz8002 2 жыл бұрын

My introduction to all this Gee-Whiz gear was way back in the late 1970s and spending some time with a Dillon 1000, set up to reload .308 Win. WAY out of my personal financial league, but it clearly showed the way for the well-heeled enthusiast. However, I run a Lee 1000 for 9mmP. VERY early on I learned about the problems of primer feed / seating and powder "spillage" ( if you try to go too fast , a few flakes will sometimes "shake" out of the case as it approaches the seating station. These magically seems to find its way into the "guts" of the mechanism and start to gum things up The issue of "primer crud" getting into teh press was solved by Carbide sizing ALL the cases on my Rockchucker. Cases are then sorted into crimped "range pickups" and "un-crimped" commrcial style. The crimped ones get a once-only treatment from my fabulous Dillon 600 primer pocket "adjuster". If you "recycle" a lot of ex-mil brass, this is the ONLY pocket swager to buy, I had endless dramas with both the CH and RCBS press-mounted systems . The Dillon is better than Smirnoff!. Prepped brass gets a whirl in the trusty Lyman Cyclone to remove ALL the remaining detritus. Thus, ONLY fully-prepped and clean and shiny cases go through the 1000. I do all this case prep in bulk; several thousand at a time. The finished and FULLY DRIED cases then go into AIRTIGHT storage jars with a date label. So, no rummaging around for suitable brass come match season; it will be there , sparkling, on the storage shelf. It also means that you will have weeded out the dubious cases somewhere along that preparation chain. See also: culling out the "small-primered" 45ACP "NT" cases from the "normal" ones". In these parts, weeding out Berdan-primed brass is also a must. Not that it is "un-reloadable", just you cannot do it on a progressive press set up for Boxer primers. Waste not, want not, especially if you live in places where ammo and components cost at least 3 times the US MSRP. One additional thing about the 1000: the indexing "drive-shaft" arrangement is marginal, at best. The dinky nylon "follower" is not immortal and, as it wears, the press "timing" goes astray.. I lube the entire machine with Moly powder, NEVER any oil or grease. This slicks things up substantially, BUT, as soon as you notice a bit of "sluggishness" or misalignment, it is time for a full service. Spares are cheap; keep a stash of any of the small plastic bits handy. Moving the "heavy" sizing and priming operations off-press substantially reduces the wear and tear on the press even if, like me, you run with the Lee case and bullet feeder extras. Finally, the "Auto-Disk powder systems work better with all the moving parts receiving a rub-over of graphite powder. Also LOTS of videos about "hot-rodding the 1000 hereabouts.

@erikjensen6503 2 жыл бұрын

Started on my reloading journey with the Lee hand tools and shotgun press over 40 years ago. Graduated 20 years later on to a used Dillon RL550B because the price was right. Upgrading process and parts/tools as budget allows. 550B has been solid, reliable, fully supported by both company and community probably the single best investment in a machine. Also have a MEC single stage for processing and load development. My advice to a new loader would be a progressive and the 550 series with its semi progressive and upgradable nature i think is the sweet spot and has good resale value. If you are just starting ona budget go with Lee if you know you are hooked go with Dillon save up if need be. Articles about starting with single stage instead of progressive are not spot on and the 550 series is where the value in production and control, and small learning curve

@thomasjefferson6334 2 жыл бұрын

As a noob i really appreciate your comment. What I'm totally lost on is- I'm looking for a progressive press that will have the most variety/ability to do different rounds ex. .223, 9mm, 762x39, .45acp, .357, .38, 7mm, .308, 30-06, 30-30 etc etc. Can i simply buy the "dies" for each round or am i limited by the machine? Is there a press that can do them all? Thank you

@erikjensen6503 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasjefferson6334 dillon 550 just need dies and a conversion kit for each caliber maybe a different powder bar

@erikjensen6503 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasjefferson6334 the Dillon 550 just needs dies, and a shell plate and locator pins ( caliber conversion kit) for each caliber. Sometimes a different powder bar. I know lots of books say start with a non progressive press but as an intermediate reloader i would go strait for the 550. It is manual indexing and you can do one at a time but it's easy to progressively reload at a comfortable pace

@cfbrooks610 2 жыл бұрын

Never signed up for a premiere video on KZfaq but this one I think everyone has been anxiously awaiting!

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

Good deal!

@firebladeflow Жыл бұрын

Lee six pack pro 6000 has entered the chat and took economics first place right away!

@skopperkopp6091 6 ай бұрын

I just got the six pack a month ago, constant jamming, double case feeding, primers not feeding, inconsistent OAL +/- 1mm, and powder variance of almost +/- .7 grains. I returned it and bought the xl750, no issues so far. The six pack has had a lot of praise, but I do not recommend it.

@firebladeflow 5 ай бұрын

@@skopperkopp6091 whatever you did, you did it wrong. I'm at over 15k round 9mm and 45ACP on my sixpack using hornady dies and I'm cranking out around 500-700rds/hr using an auto bullet feeder. OAL is super consistent, such is precision and speed. Again: Whatever you did: It was wrong.

@skopperkopp6091 5 ай бұрын

@firebladeflow I mean maybe, to each their own. After getting the dillon and loading 3k of 223 I've never had a problem

@alanmeyers3957 4 ай бұрын

@@firebladeflowthe Dillon is better, However, I agree with you.

@tonyzhu403 2 ай бұрын

Lee really did step up their game in Progressives. I got my hands on a Load Master for cheap, and I'm pretty happy with it. No spot for a Powder Check though, points given to the Successor.

@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why many people are bashing Gavin for the video. Progressive Reloading have a ton variables, and he ain't a scientific lab doing scientific research. An apples to apples comparison is maybe impossible. Break down of the quirks and total cost of ownership is great. (For example, the Lee Load Master is somewhat of a 4.5 station press.) In my opinion, great video Gavin.

@armalite3009 2 жыл бұрын

People were expecting much more based on the old single stage comparison video. Remember he said this has been in planning from 2008 and was posted 2 years after the single stage video so the hype and expectations were not in line with him just reading the product specs and telling rough prices. Now that doesn't make this a bad video. Great video for new people getting into progressive presses. One stop shop specs breakdown. We ordered cheesecake but only got the cake. Cake is still good just not what we wanted lol.

@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын

@@armalite3009 still, free cake. Maybe we should be a bit more appreciative?

@armalite3009 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyzhu403 pump the brake there fella. Appreciate the free content? You ask too much sir. I want my cheesecake lol

@InLineFabrication 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to it! Huge amount of info and specs collected!

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

It's going to be GREAT- see you at the Premier!!! Thanks Dan.

@coldfront7914 2 жыл бұрын

Even though I'm totally locked into my 550 and 650 dillons I'm really looking forward to this.

@markyoung6284 2 жыл бұрын

@gavin Lee has a new Progressive Press coming out with a six die positions and primes on the downstroke, so all six are available. It's called the Pro 6000.

@garrytalley8009 2 жыл бұрын

In all fairness everyone has their own opinion. Gavin does give a good review as a whole. None of these machines would be on the market today if there were not people buying them enough for them to stay in business building them. They all work. I personally have a Dillon but that is just my choice at the time. They will be in business if I need parts and their warranty is as good as it gets. Not saying any of the others are any better or worse. Most all of them have plusses and minuses. I don't believe there is a perfect progressive press.

@leonardjanda6181 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much , I been loading since I was 9 , to this day , I can listen to you talk all day like a teacher. Very easy to understand ❤️❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@tonyzhu403 2 жыл бұрын

As I was looking more into the Lee Load Master. From Lee Precision: "April 27, 2022 After 30 years of production, the Load-Master Progressive Press is going to legacy status. All of the Load-Master specific parts (shell plates, primer feed, etc.) will continue to be produced."

@squirrelwesson3969 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god!!! I've never been so excited to see a Premiere notification 🤣🤣🤣. A perfect thing to drop on a Friday evening 😎. I. Can't. Wait.

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

YESSSS! See you at the Premier!

@tnomi 6 ай бұрын

This was amazing. Thank you for doing this. You've saved me hours of research. I've narrowed down my choices to 2-3 presses now.

@Ultimatereloader 6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@JasonPAINTER-sy8dj Жыл бұрын

Hey Gavin, I want to thank you for putting in the hours to get this done. I've been watching a lot of your content over the last couple of weeks as I prepare to start my reloading journey. After doing quite a bit of my own research, and waiting for my head to stop spinning, I had my mind all but set on the Lee Pro 4000 but really was looking for a cumulative comparison of what's out there. This video hit it out of the park for me. Everything about it, the costs associated, pros and cons, comparing everything available from each manufacturer, optional accessories, jist really top notch presentation all the way. Much appreciated!

@boricuaarecibo9259 2 жыл бұрын

This was a very good progressive press comparison video. I feel very good about my decision on buying my dillon XL750 press. It's perfect for the type of reloading I do. Although my cost of ownership is higher because of the 9 calibers I reload for including all the tool heads I bought for each caliber.

@williamgreene5488 2 жыл бұрын

I use the load master and have for years . My riffle reloads are exceptional. My pistol is reloads are very good as well. Most of my issues with pistol deal with over crimping of rounds once you find the right crimp they are very accurate. If I could post pictures I would.

@toddturnbaugh4451 2 жыл бұрын

This just makes me wish I could use my dillon rl 550, I haven't been able to find primers in almost 2 years, and the ones I had as a backup are all but gone. 😢

@rorymclean7545 2 жыл бұрын

I'm only 18 minutes into this video. This video is amazing. So much information, very interesting to me. Thank you for this video

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, glad it is useful!

@toddwikel3849 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I'm looking to upgrade from my first Lee turret to a fully progessive and this has video gives me the information i was looking for. Thanks again.

@buzby80 2 жыл бұрын

“What we will not cover: ammunition evaluation” The one thing we all were waiting for 😒

@firebladeflow Жыл бұрын

it's definitely a factor and could be compared using the same (hornady) dies.

@pcburner068 3 ай бұрын

You don't like the video? Do one yourself. It's easy to sit back and complain till it's time to put up or shut up.

@buzby80 3 ай бұрын

@@pcburner068 A; I don’t make KZfaq videos for a living, he does. Usually quite good ones, hence why I expected this relevant information to be included B; Ammunition evaluation was included in his single stage press shootout. It’s very reasonable to want to see that information here as well. After all it is THE end result that actually matters. Most of this video is just listing features that could be found on the manufacturers website. That’s not a shootout.

@ShaneBruce3 2 жыл бұрын

For once in my life, my timing is impeccable. Getting into reloading and ready to decide which progressive makes the most sense for me/my needs so I can purchase in the next few days!

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

Good deal! We'll see you at the Premier !

@r1ght1left1 2 жыл бұрын

Given the large price increases, significant supply chain shortages and insane competition for primers and bullets you actually picked a T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E time to get into reloading. 🤣

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын

@@r1ght1left1 he will still get his money back eventually if he uses the equipment. Might take several more years, but the result will be the same.

@erikjensen6503 2 жыл бұрын

If you are hooked you can't go wrong with a Dillon

@ShaneBruce3 2 жыл бұрын

@@r1ght1left1 Yeah, so you could definitely say that about shooting sports in general, but it still makes more sense to reload than shoot factory regardless of the time

@dalepogue5799 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great video. I have the Hornady AP for about 7 years that I do all my pistol rounds on I have 2 Redding T-7s for my rifle.🇺🇸

@reloadrefine Жыл бұрын

Man that had to be the most expensive reloading video ever. Thanks so much Gavin for all of your great videos. 😎

@JasonParham83 2 жыл бұрын

No exaggeration when I say I've been waiting YEARS for this. I couldn't wait anymore so I broke down and picked up a Lee load master a few months back. Lets see if that choice is backed up by Gavin.

@av8rbri473 2 жыл бұрын

I like the analogy about the race horses going back and forth.... But as the old saying goes: “buy once cry once”.... I believe “The Blue” wins on an overall if you also factor in “time” And yes, most people as commented would like to see an overall product comparison “accuracy test”, etc. But I. relieve you have tested all or almost all of these separately, and those results can be found in your other vids. Thx for taking the crazy amount of time I’m sure it was to splice this all together

@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын

This had to take so much work, thank you for putting this together 🇺🇸

@thatguyoverthere2288 2 жыл бұрын

Required viewing for anyone in the market. Great job

@rt000r 2 жыл бұрын

well Gavin,gotta say I was a bit let down. I have been with you since the early days of hornady lnl reviews [about the time i got mine]and progressed in geeking out over reloading gear at a bit slower rate than you but not far behind. there honestly was not much in this video that I didn't know but this has become my favorite video to recommend to any newbie looking for a progressive. all in all, excellent job on what you covered and it will be a huge help to me since i help a lot of people getting into reloading and picking out gear. I greatly appreciate the effort, time and attention to detail you put into your videos.

@DRock558 2 жыл бұрын

What additional information were you looking for?

@rt000r 2 жыл бұрын

@@DRock558 info like his single stage press shoot out. Not that a lot of that info matters but I have a weakness for such details. Not slamming this video and no respect lost for Gavin. Just My personal opinion

@buickspecial6960 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i was expecting a winner called out for leverage or ease of use, and reliability or repeatability.

@WvMnts 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a newbie and would like to get the best of the best that can be upgraded. Would love to see someone make a video from start to finish and what press with all the extras linked so I could buy the whole package. Thanks

@bodynfocus 2 жыл бұрын

Santa Clause brought my Loadmaster in 2018 when I was doing a lot of USPSA shooting. "Fidgeting" is a profession when you own a LM... and I eventually gave up on the priming system altogether choosing to manual prime off press and use the stations as: #1 with case feeder for sizing (decap removed) #2 for Rotary powder/flare, #3 for a powder check, #4 seat and #5 crimp. If I ever need high volume pistol again, I'd probably jump over to the other "RED" alternative.

@peterslaby9782 2 жыл бұрын

“I’ve been waiting a long time for this” - Count Dooku

@Shadow0fd3ath24 Жыл бұрын

The load master with just a few ETSY upgrades and smart tuning mods becomes the best one BY FAR for a beginner who doesnt want to spend 2 minutes per bullet for the same price as a single stage with all the stuff you need to not hate preloading. i can switch calibers in under 10 minutes easily and do 1100 rds per hour even while paying attention with my 6 tube case feeder and ETSY mods. im in it for $504 for 3 calibers of dies/plates/powder feeders, plus, 4 etsy mods and 6 tubes for the ETSY case feeder. For another $180 in dies and tubes, i could do 5-6 more calibers too with the same shell plates and powder feeders

@garyreadler4886 2 жыл бұрын

Thats terrific news, thanks Gavin. I made a purchase last year based on your single stage shootout, which was a great video. Thanks again.

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you are liking these shootouts!

@grantdorcey8053 2 жыл бұрын

What single stage did u get?

@garyreadler4886 2 жыл бұрын

@@grantdorcey8053 I bought an RCBS Rebel press. I like the D shape and also like the open area without other stuff in the way. I didn't care about no priming on the press , there are many off press options available. I like it a lot. It is a heavy chunk of iron. I have loaded some pistol and hope to do rifle this summer, but getting powder and primers is slowing that down.

@briancowan4318 2 жыл бұрын

Gavin, about 12 years ago I got into reloading. I started with a single stage kit, the RCBS Rock Chucker. Within a month I was ready for more and I watched all the videos you had, specifically focusing on caliber change over. This is why I went with the Hornady LNL AP. Over the years I've added lights and a 3D printed case feeder, picked for the ceiling height requirement over a motorized case feeder. I will say this, if I had it all to do over again, I'd get the Frankford Arsenal X10 no holds bar, but I'd have to check the height of the case feeder. Love my Inline Fabrication quick change flush mount. As for future subjects, Buller Feeders for .223 & .308, (pistol as well) possibly including 3D printed ones and after market like Double Alpha. Oh, and one of the reasons I like gravity feed over motor feed, besides lack of height, is you don't need change over parts. Yeah you get into a bottle neck when you have to reload tubes, but that happens with powder and primers too.

@gracewthomas 2 жыл бұрын

I have 7 Dillon square deals 2 550's one in 30-06 and the other in 300 win mag 2 SL900 12 & 20 gauge 2 mec shotgun reloaders 16 & 28 gauges and Forster coax ///// I reload for 58 different calibers and 4 shotgun gauges . I started to reload in 1980 @ the age of 20 I was ery poor at the time and my first 30-06 ammo came from WWII blank ammo , I pulled the flash powder and de-primed the cases and chamfered out the primer pocket and then reloaded oer 1000 free Blank cases and got on an average 12 to 15 reload's for my M Garand. Alan Thomas

@johnsodx 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely been waiting on this one!

@christopherhaycox7923 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Time to sit down and make a solid plan for reloading.

@brucebalfour8042 2 жыл бұрын

After the stellar test setup for the single press test, I had hoped for the type of data provided during the single press showdown.

@Tainted-Soul 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the shoot out . I for one have had the Lee presses for years and always had problems with them to the point both loadmasters went to single loading cases pre-primed ( I gave up ) to changing the powder measure as I got some foots . But I went to Dillon this year and OMG what a difference Smoother easier and they work . for the 9mm I changed the powder expansion die to Double Alpha Bullet feeder die as it mad a big help seating the heads without scraping the FMJ off .I went for 2 XL750 one small primer one large ( 9mm and .44mag ) I dont load that much but wanted to be able to just walk in and load some ammo as and when I needed it . Yes i big lay out but worth it for my time and ease of use . So for me it is not all about $$ pre load its about ease of use and smooth loading. If there is one thing I would like to change is the primers feed I would love the Apex 10 auto primer set up just so you can tip a box it and away you go, I just have to make do with another double Alpha's primer loader. its funny here in the UK most people go for the cheapest option me I want a good life :)

@alexcoons3257 11 ай бұрын

Getting into reloading, and this really helped me with my decision. Thank you so much for the video!

@jakespeed9419 Жыл бұрын

My loadmaster in 2016 shipped was 203 in 9mm config, bought 7.62, 223 and 350 legend dies case holder and 2 auto drums for another 200. Still running strong tens of thousands rounds loaded

@hawkeyeted 11 ай бұрын

Loadmaster was a really good budget progressive.

@robertbroxson4582 14 күн бұрын

Thank you for all you do! I really appreciate you and your help

@halfdollar86 2 жыл бұрын

I bought my LNL AP and don’t use a case feeder. It’s been a great press. I pretty much keep it on 9mm mostly. I don’t mind loading in the brass myself. Sometimes I load 223 as well. It’s really easy to switch over. It has been a great value. I bought it March 2019 for $379 and got 500 projectiles (129 grain interlocks 6.5mm). If you consider the projectile value it was a real bargain.

@bradboe1901 2 жыл бұрын

I like my lnl ap, the priming took some tweaking but now is flawless, the powder measure is good to very good depending on types of powder, I’ve been reloading since the seventies and since I’m retired now I have more time to shoot so I needed to load more rounds

@chuckschillingvideos Жыл бұрын

Me either. Case feeders seem to be far, far, far more trouble than they are worth. I do use the bullet feed, however. I love my LNL AP and 16 years after purchase, it's still going great.

@jerrythompson9111 Жыл бұрын

I have been reloading since 1966 and you have reminded me of things I forgot. Keep up the great work 👍

@stewartperry7797 2 жыл бұрын

You have an outstanding channel and when I need a reference outside of MFG I go to you. Thanks for all the effort and accuracy!

@ilndboy7 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gavin I like this comparison. I have been using the RCBS Rockchucker for many years. Time to upgrade.

@adeniranm7647 2 жыл бұрын

I've waited so long for this! Thanks Gavin.

@scooter0007able Жыл бұрын

My first press is also my favorite. Hornady Lock N Load AP. I think all presses will have a learning curve and the Hornady is no exception. Just hit 25K rounds reloaded and it looks and performs as well as it did brand new.

@rhino67 11 ай бұрын

Buying my first press, thinking of starting with the LnLAP...thots?

@siege78 6 ай бұрын

@Gavin, thank you so much for doing this video. I can't even imagine the time and work it took to put this together (not to mention costs). This video has really helped with narrowing down which is the right progressive press for me!

@Tb64 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see how the Lee Pro 6000 Six Pack compares in this list.

@trumpeteer211 2 жыл бұрын

We need a turret press showdown now. If not too much to ask. Thanks for video. Great info.

@michaelbusbee601 9 ай бұрын

The huge amount of work you’ve done on. this is much appreciated. You’ve helped me decide on the X 10 and saved me hours of research. Definitely following for more of your videos. 👍

@trentwinston2914 Жыл бұрын

I am so grateful for this video. I'm just getting into reloading, and this video helped me narrow down my choices. I'm between the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP and the Dillon XL-750. I don't want to start at the bottom and work my way up. I am probably buying my last Press first. The choice isn't made, but it's much narrower now. Thank You, very much.

@MrShadow1995. 7 ай бұрын

Which one did you go with? Funny enough those are the two im looking at the begin my reloading journey as well. I dont like starting off too basic either. My 3rd option considered would probably be the lee pro 6000.

@hleigh842 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible, exceptional job. What a wonderful way to spend a Saturday morning, coffee cup in hand, dogs taken out, ready to watch. Thank you sir.

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

@scotth364 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Dillion 550 since 1989, it was used to reload for a police department for several years until the 650 came out. My 550 has broke down twice, worn parts, it happens but rarely, Dillion replaced parts no charge. Support is beyond excellent, that’s why I will stick with Dillion.

@hawkeyeted 11 ай бұрын

I have a 1993 vintage Dillon SDB, making it 30 years old. At some point Dillon updated the spent primer catch bin. I brought the SDB in early this year to have basic maintenance done to it and the folks at Dillon replaced all the Delrin bearings with new brass ones as well as updating the primer catch bin, all at no cost to me. I only had to pay for the return shipping. That great customer service.

@rwcraver 2 жыл бұрын

The Frankford Arsenal has been 'Coming Soon' for about 2 years. I wish they would get it sorted out and available for purchase, some day soon. Seems like vapor-ware, rather than hardware.

@greeneman99710 2 жыл бұрын

Well with China being in all kinds of lockdowns I am sure that has slowed down their production.

@rwcraver 2 жыл бұрын

@@greeneman99710 Yep. That has always bothered me about FA products, they make good products, but in China. I have one of their hand primers with adjustable seating depth and their rotary powder dropper that doesn't leak; it just seems Lee could up the quality or someone like Lyman build a price competitive product.

@thomasjefferson6334 2 жыл бұрын

@@rwcraver As a noob i really appreciate your comment. What I'm totally lost on is- I'm looking for a progressive press that will have the most variety/ability to do different rounds ex. .223, 9mm, 762x39, .45acp, .357, .38, 7mm, .308, 30-06, 30-30 etc etc. Can i simply buy the "dies" for each round or am i limited by the machine? Is there a press that can do them all? Thank you

@rwcraver 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasjefferson6334 The short answer is that all 7/8"-14 dies will 'work' on any press, but on a progressive with a powder measure will probably work best with that manufacturers dies, particularly a Dillon with their activated powder measure. Case length is something to be wary of with the 30-06 and maybe the 7mm as the turret has to be able to turn with the finished length cartridge; this will be in the manufacturer's product description information. For example a Dillon 550 can handle up to a 338 Lapau, my Lee Pro4000 can only auto-index up to a 2-5/16" overall length case, though it will load longer if manually indexing.

@thomasjefferson6334 2 жыл бұрын

@@rwcraver i see. So it might be a good idea to get a progressive for cases smaller than 30-06 and an additional single stage press for 30-06 and up, i assume? Any presses that blow you away.... and any i should avoid? I wanna get a good one so im willing to pay around 2k. Possibly more if the dies are more

@steveclement7791 7 ай бұрын

In May of 2023 I graduated from my Lee Classic Turret (which I still love) to the Lee Six Pack Pro 6000. It is an amazing press at half the price of a Hornady LNL.

@Mark2A1776 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Gavin for simplifying all this for me, I just ordered the x10.

@Ultimatereloader 10 ай бұрын

Congrats, and thanks for watching!

@Mark2A1776 10 ай бұрын

Have you reviewed the Lee inline bullet feeder and will it work with the FA X10 and or which feeder would you recomend for the X20?

@frankw7266 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Big Blue all the way for me... I've had my 650 since '98, and keeping an eye on what they've been going for on ebay, I can actually get more for it now than I paid for it 24 years ago.

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

That is a good investment! :)

@zanegeis6805 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for putting these videos out. I’m lookin to get started with my first reloader and was lost in all the options. You really made a great comparison video and showcased very well what the purposes are of each press and helped me a lot as I start to try and hone in on what to get for my first reloader.

@lobbyrobby 6 күн бұрын

Which did you go with?

@chrisvonahnen3578 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive presentation 👍

@andrewschliewe6392 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing comparison video. It was 100% awesome.

@frankmmiii 5 ай бұрын

Thank You for the review Gavin. I just bought a Lee 90900 Breech Lock Auto Pro for a decent price from Midway USA, and I already have all the dies for the pistol and rifle calibers I shoot. So, my investment will be(along with the 90900) the shell plate holders and the Safety Primer Feed system because the one that came with my Challenger Breech Lock kit doesn't work with the 90900. I also purchased the Lee Universal Case Feed, the Pro Auto Disk Powder Measure and Bullet Feed kit. This progressive press will definitely be used for high-volume as opposed to my Challenger single stage press. In my opinion, any press that will spit out a round with every pull of the arm is high volume. I'm sorry Gavin, I just can't agree with your assessment of the Lee Breech Lock 90900. I've heard to many good things about it. Thank You for your hard work and dedication.

@texasbradley 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gavin, leading the reloading revolution! It was worth the wait!

@Russell-1 2 жыл бұрын

Ba Man - you are the master of overstatement.

@mattolson6684 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent job. Well done and looking forward for more.

@moushunter 2 жыл бұрын

I have an old style pro 1000 press that I use exclusively for .223. I deprime and size using one turret. I use a small funnel to feed a single case feeder tube. Then I trim and decrimp primer pockets on once fired brass on a Frankfort Arsenal trimmer. I then prime by hand and swap turrets and load using a Hornady Lock N Load powder measure, a hornady powder check die, then a seat and very light crimp with a Lee die. I've done 10s of thousands of rounds on this rig flawlessly. I did modify my bench to allow spent primers to dump into a bucket. I paid $25 for the press at a gun show, cleaned it up and put it to work. After the brass is ready for a 2nd reload I have a dedicated Loadmaster to handle that task. Again, flawlessly. My original Loadmaster has a couple hundred thousand rounds through it over the last 25 years and it is still going strong.

@frankbodenschatz173 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Gavin, lots of time in this. Looks like the X-10 is out and maybe a Dillon Square Deal B and an upgraded single stage for my rifles.

@jonathanbevil6712 2 жыл бұрын

Gavin, Thanks for another great video! Keep up the excellent work!

@derekenz2140 Жыл бұрын

Watched this video a while back, actually waited for this video even longer after I'd purchased my Pro 4000. Now the Pro 6000 is out, I think you'll like that press better than the Loadmaster.

@stevengodfrey4267 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Gavin as always and thanks for Keeping Us well informed !

@karlheinz7112 Жыл бұрын

I love you videos. Very educational. Bought my xl750 2 yrs ago. After watching tons of videos and reading. Had your video on repeat setting up my xl750😂. Thank you

@medic9544 2 жыл бұрын

Just here to boost the algorithm. This videos deserves so many more views.

@livezero264 Жыл бұрын

Great video Gavin, thanks for all the effort. I use a Dillon RL550B and would like to do some upgrades but I’m still waiting for primers to be available again to feed the beast.

@charlesmarshall3193 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you for your efforts to clear up the market!

@mountainmangramps5741 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent overview, thank you!

@dahveed284 2 жыл бұрын

Nice overview of the current and immediately coming options.

@EddieBlueHalen 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Dillon SDB for 30 years. I want to upgrade from a single stage press for rifle. I was leaning towards the 550 but am now certain it will fill my needs best, after watching this video. Great job, great effort. Your channel is awesome.

@3gunshooter60 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you've been busy. This is awesome information and review. I have a few presses but one progressive being the Dillon xl650 and I love it. I want another one to do the large and small primer thing. Can't say anything bad about the Dillon. I have a RCBS rockchucker and a turret press too. They all have a purpose. Thanks for your time and effort.

@murrayhelm1096 Жыл бұрын

Great Video helped a lot with my final decision, Dillon XL 750

@morrisreloads Жыл бұрын

Awesome frikin job with your channel n knowledge of all you content...I learned my progressive from your videos.🔥🔥..hands down brotha...thanx..take care🤙🤙

@carltaylor334 2 жыл бұрын

Very impressed with the video. Nice to see the comparisons on a variety of presses. I have very minimal experience on a Dillon 550 back in the early 90s. Right now I have two Lee Loadmasters for six handgun calibers. One for small primers and one for larges primers. One thing I wish he would have touched on is whether the priming is on the upstroke or downstroke. Being a member of the Lee cult it does make a difference.

@lowrider9367 11 ай бұрын

Let me start of with saying WOW!!! What a video & I only watched the presses I have, had & the ones I am considering purchasing. You are spot on with absolutely ZERO biases which is very nice. I had the Lee loadmaster. When I decided that press wasn't for me. I decided that there was literally nobody on earth I hated so much that I would have took $$$ from in exchange for the press. So I gave it away to a work friend with TONS of warning's that it's going to take time to set up & get running smooth from day to day or even hr by hr. It really seems that the best bang for the buck is the X10. I been lurking around that press for a bit now & am confident that I will purchase that one in the near future. I am confident that with most reloaders, we don't mind spending more money on a press if that gets us a more efficient press in the long run. The X10 looks beefy & very well made. I really like the amount of plastic that isn't used. Although I would consider that one a commercial press as it looks like it's built as strong as a tank. As always, I really appreciate your videos & in depth view & review of the products you're testing. Keep it up!!!

@Phodera 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Still and always comes down to individual preferences, needs and other factors $$. Thank you as always.

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@kenhnsy 2 жыл бұрын

Gavin. YOU ARE THE MAN!

@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын

You are too kind, Thanks for watching!

@otakovarik5598 2 жыл бұрын

This channel transformed into professional showroom.

@paulvenn4447 2 жыл бұрын

Long time coming! Can't wait to see the results of all your hard work Gavin.

@Aimsport-video 2 жыл бұрын

An Ammo Quality follow-up would help many decide, but the effort would be huge.

@hawkeyeted 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Dillon SDB and love it. Super consistent. My only complaint is that it's a PITA to adjust case flare. Other than that, it does what it advertises.