r/PlebianAR without the nazism

@@thefrogstronaut If Not See talks scares you, leave the internet. I have never been offended enough to filter, report or block others. Even when I was getting bombed with Shovel Dog and Two Girls One Cup. Live Free Or Die Hard.

@@almostontimehero5415 not like nazis is not the same as being scared by nazis. Nazism isn’t a just a “difference of a opinion”, it’s a disease.

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@@thefrogstronaut lmao this dude thinks the internet nazis are actually real but won't say shit about the commie mobs in the streets

Do it

When I finish mine I want everyone to make fun of it

I got one XD

Any of the modern DSArms, SBR FALs would qualify

@@WasatchGarandMan "It's so bad that I would still choose the SA80 over it. The A1 version, too!"

That thing was awesome! Do you still have it, or any video of shooting it? It's like a PSG-1 you don't need a truck to move around.

@@Hoplopfheil I wish I still had it, unfortunately I sold it and another rifle a few years ago in order to buy an old Action Arms / IMI Galil ARM chambered in .308. It's a sweet rifle but looking back I probably should have kept the PTR. I still have a stash of surplus HK91 mags I'm holding onto in case I ever get the itch for one again.

@@mafiamanj15 Hell dude, I was looking at $200+ stocks for my PTR, and your picture here convinced me to just get the $39 HK-parts cheek riser, so thank you. It was a beautiful rifle you had. That Galil sounds sick so I can't blame you.

I was hoping my cool boots would distract from my shit rifle.

@@Hoplopfheil Oh they definitely did

I was secretly hoping you would actually step into the shot, leading to four boots at once. Maybe next time.

God damn it.

My NY compliant AR will rule them all!

I have a pretty fugly SAM7UF.

@P. Cameron All guns are range toys on the Civil market anyways, so have fun!

The rule of thumb on a platform like this is simple. Less = more.

@@therideneverends1697 um no

@@raptorman6589 um yes

Well, the ARs are.

Leave the poor man alone, he's already wasted enough time, money and sanity trying to modernize one out-dated battle rifle.

Agreed

Yeah the big thing about what Hop is doing and is disappointed about, is he's trying to make a gun something it's ultimately not. Best you can do is try to make it into an old style DMR-end of the day it's a rifle from 1950. You'd have better luck with the AR10(despite being just as old.)

He just talks shit about everything that isnt an AR

@@chuckmangione4382 isn't that what everyone does lol I'm an AKguy and it does get annoying after a while

@@mr.c.3760 Yeah what also blows my mind is that they are confused why it ended up being the poster child for gun control...

What Century Arms did to all of those CETME parts over the years was almost *criminal*

Spaniard not Spanish.

@ Alejandro Ayora: "My heart just breaks everytime I see a bubba'd Cetme or G3" As a firearm collector, I'd love to run across a vintage iron-sighted wood-stocked CETME clone (true CETME rifles which are select fire are heavily-regulated and require a special permit, and are also quite expensive), but the only people making them for the USA are Century Arms, and those rifles - while attractive to look at - are famous for not being able to shoot point-of-aim to point-of-impact. They can't be zeroed due to barrel mistiming or other issues related to the sights. They also require a special front sight tool which is not always easy to find. And wood-stocked G3s are hard to find. PTR Industries of South Carolina make a nice G3 clone, but quit making wood furniture rifles a while back and haven't done any since.

@@ratagris21 If a Spanish choose to phrase it that way then it's authentic.

@@ratagris21 U dum

Would screwing a swivel stud into a plastic handguard be a good idea to isolate the bipod from the barrel?

How’s that spas 12 working out?

Yup

Yes. And I've bought a lot off folks like that for deals when I explained how bad they fucked up with their "creation"

Gotta agree with ya there. I would say most gun owners don't shoot alot.

@@joshuagibson2520 I've got a box of junk purely from pulling stupid shit off guns I've bought. I'm no l33t operator, but I can tell when someone got their "upgrade" ideas from a movie starring Steven Seagal.

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 lol. I thought I was maybe the only one with such a box of useless accessories and peripherals. Too funny.

I bought a C308 (clone). It had a top rail as standard. All I added was a See-Thru Open Site (half way between iron sites and red dot. Pretty cool, look them up) that co witnesses with the iron sites. Then a cheap foregrip with a bottom rail to add a beefy vertical grip.

reddit and Mr. Herrera are down the hall.

@@eisenkrieg553 Herrera is a goofy SOB!! Him and his shitty AKs are a joke!!

@@makevelicustoms that's kind of the point.

But reddit is no fun allowed libs that wouldn't know a butstock from their butts. Herrera is too focused on meme builds.

@@almostontimehero5415 The aforementioned act is spiritually reddit and after meeting a guy in college that would actually reference interests in conversation with r/ whatever, I decided to have nothing to do with their lot.

The MFI seems to be the lowest mount out there. I've used a TA33 3X ACOG with the Spuhr Top Rail (which sits a little higher it looks than the MFI) and I think the best I could do was getting the telescoping stock somewhere around the very bottom of my cheek, if I played around with it enough. I guess if I absolutely had to, I could make it work, but I'd have trouble trying to do it consistently. That's just me though. Still not as bad as some of the full-on "neck welds" that'd be required for some of the builds in this video.

@@dexm2010 yeah I get a chin weld but not a neck weld. Doesn't bother me since this is kind of preferable for some people, I do have to choke up on the gun but it's not a big deal for my height. The MFI is definitely slept on, it's a very solid mount I just wish they didn't use YFS screws.

@@hellcatdave1 I also use an MFI on mine. Currently has a 3x Vortex spitfire placeholding for an Elcan 1.5/6x. Also have the collapsing stock, but got it notched by hkparts at about the halfway point for a much for comfortable LOP. I get a pretty good half cheek, half chin weld and no problem with the eye relief.

@@deancarr4507 did you do the Springfield buffer mod?

@@hellcatdave1 Nope, mine has a manticore nightbrake on it which has completely (and I do mean completely) eliminated muzzle rise. I grew up with a 7mm mag, so .308 kick just doesn't bother me.

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I prefer the term "grip disc."

@@Hoplopfheil Its ok bro. You are a libertarian and mechwarrior fan so you get a pass from me. Also love your night vision series. When are you going to Examine MW5?

@@kilosierraalpha I don't know, some idiots might actually raise the average IQ.

I missed the analogy. What is this forum?

@@seyahznarf mongolian basketweaving forum.

@@seyahznarf Khazakstani scuba diving forum

thanks to the adjustability of your headspace and bolt gap with some work on the rollers and considering most are freefloated you can *make* them very mechanically accurate by bringing the gap in. But most manufacturers are not going to send out rifles with such tight gaps as that effects function with ammo that might not be to M80 ball specs. That being said with not very much cash in parts (we are talking sub 50 bucks) you can easilly tighten the groups into the 1 ish MOA range. But most people still think roller guns operate on magic so they dont do the bolt work and instead buy accessories

@@therideneverends1697 nailed it.

I don't own a PTR 91 but a 32(7.62x39) and with just 6x magnification I got just over 1moa @100 with cheap russian steel cased ammo. I think with better ammo it will shoot sub moa.

@ Mattias Petrmichl: PTR 91's are made from old surplus blueprints and machining from the Austrian firm of Steyr - which used to make them for the government of that nation - so they're accurate facsimiles. The OEM triggers are lousy, so if you have ambitions to shoot accurately you usually need an after-market trigger or a trigger-job, since they're 10-12 lbs. factory with tons of creep and over-travel. The barrels are supposed to be quite accurate, but the heavy and large bolt-assembly reciprocating can degrade accuracy for some users, so a buffer update is also common. 2-3 moa doesn't sound like much now, but as recently as the 1960s, those were the specs for service rifle accuracy. If the standard military silhouette is 18-inches wide, and the iron sights on the G3 are good to 500 meters, then 3 moa gets you there still on center-mass. The sights are graduated to 400 meters, but if memory serves, recruits are taught to hold over to reach 500 and even 600 meters using irons alone. The rifle is accurate-enough; the real issue is how good is that NATO-spec. M80 Ball you're using. If it is good quality and capable of better than 3 moa, chances are you'll be OK even with iron sights. True precision shooting -like a DMR - is another matter all together.

@@levinlevinallday did you do any modification

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It’s not the 90’s anymore optics are needed for a serious use gun

@@Idgaf52 im not saying optics aren't better, because they are. But to suggest your gun needs to have optics to be usable is really dumb.

I like hop but I guess he's in the realm of guys that think they will be spec op when shtf A rifle is a rifle no matter how conventional The houtis in Yemen are recking shit with just akm's

If your going to put your life and that of comrades on the line using a battle rifle, hell any rifle, it behooves you to be as competent with the iron sights as you are with optics.

@Metaberry and that is totally understandable, the HK sights are pretty lackluster.

The classic rifle with a gi sling is enough rifle for most users. A sling is the only I consider a must have, the other stuff is situational.

If you already own several and want something different, these are fun.

@ 02cents But where is the fun in that?

m1a boomer setups pls, add in Mini 14s for good measure

Wow it's a small world! Or there just aren't many good PTR builds in it.

It looks like one of these: www.nimrodswares.com/magpul-original-7-62-magazine-assist-6pk-mag002-fol/

To me 400 yards is plenty good enough for most people. If people can train past 400 yards, God bless them, but many don't even have access consistently to ranges that go past about 200 yards.

@@dexm2010 yeah I'm lucky that my friend got land. But my usual range I go to only reaches 200 but it's better than nothing.

@@ch4osaeternum74 I know what you mean. For a long time I was lucky to have a range that goes out to 200 yards, it's only recently I found a range that will go out to 400. We all have to make do with what we have.

I wish they would offer versions with the irons milled off and just pic rail sections in their place, but most people who buy these guns do it for the classic retro appeal. Jeff at PCS sometimes does this for customers who request it, though.

True that, I want to get a scope for my fal but I also don't want to replace the stock so I'll just have to find the lowest scope available and it probably won't be enough

@@shoelessbandit1581 Feel like trying to scope any of the Cold War battle rifles is going to be a hassle. I gave up on the FAL and G3 clones and bought a SCAR when they were high 2000s. Those days are gone for now but it’s just a better option IMO.

@Sam Huff It does make you wonder why they insisted on having the sights so low. It doesn't surprise me that at the time irons were still king, and scopes would be an afterthought in most cases, but I wish some of the designers were still around today so we could ask them specifically why they wanted the sights as low as they did.

@@dexm2010 Dunno. STG-44 had similar stock design.

Arken or Blackhound. Can't be beat.

Primary Arms, Holosun, Vortex and Burris are made in the same Chinese factory. Avoid those.

Why not a 1-8? The vortex 1-8 is smaller than the 1-6 for some methed up reason.

People tend to get overly concerned about a lot of stuff, but yeah 2-3 is good enough. Considering typical engagement distances even back to the Civil War through WW2 and up to now, I'd be happy with a rifle that can make good hits at 200-300 meters. There are exceptions sure but mostly 200 meters and closer. I never thought my M16A2 or M4 were inaccurate, I thought they shot really well.