does the R+L=J will come to youtube also?

I don't know if I can rewatch Season 8 with them

I'll soon be a patreon subscriber for seasons 7 & 8

When a bastard becomes head of household the household sigil becomes inverted... The Starks are a gray wolf on a white field, So when Jon Snow a bastard becomes the head of house Stark the sigil becomes a white wolf on a gray field,.. Jon Snow is the white wolf

"He won the battle of the bastards". No, he was on the winning side. Big difference. He did nothing other than take part in it. If anything, Jon Snow was the least worthy person to be called King/Queen in this show...hell, even Cersei killed her way to the top. Jon was just born and given it for being there.

And maisie really wanted to meet ed sheeran and didn’t know he was on set till she saw him in the scene

I think the scene with Lannister soldiers were always meant to be there. The Ed Sheeran cameo was just to make Maise happy.

Yeah, I'm really surprised they don't get it, especially Spartan.

And that “good heartedness” they see in their behavior is just naivety about the world they really live in. One of them says “my mom always said if you treat strangers with kindness, they’ll treat you the same,” and that’s hardly the case in this world. Many have and will take advantage of kindness

yup. unless you belong tot he ruling families and therefore directly benefit from their dominion over these lands, you're just a shmuck who happens to be born somewhere, enlisted in a war, and not be able to say no. the ed sheeran cameo really just annoys me because it's so distracting to that otherwise good message

Yeah.. totally❤

​​@@alichaudhry2561nah dany is far better than those 2 politically incompetent and irrational fools dont compare her to them especially to Daemon out of everyone💀💀 she is nothing like Rhaenyra and Daemon thank god for that she is a good human and cares about the common folks..she actually has qualities of a good ruler unlike those 2 tbh

​@@alichaudhry2561so truuuue

obviously XD

Yeah, and also there are family members who aren't bad and there's are northmen and guys from the vale who're bad

then most of the Lannisters (family) are cute in the book. Apart from Tywin (who is stern for necessity) and his sons the other cousins and uncles are kind. Even Lancel, in the end isn't evil, he's just vain.

Wait you’re telling me every single person In every army isn’t related?? 🤯

​@karimabidi8312 now, if everyone can understand this and apply it to the real world, we'd have conquered racism, how crazy is that? Seems so simple..

Well they ruin that too lol

too bad they ruin that to make a dumb meme happen

@@harshahir3176 No they did not lol

@@AllTheArtsy Nothing was ruined

@@ianvera4299 sure

dude he absolutely murders it in every scene but this was his masterclass for sure

David Bradley is a fantastic actor. His arc on Broadchurchs first season is such a heartbreaker

Well, his last name is Snow. Snow = white. But the reversed colors of the sigil I didn't even think about until you mentioned it.

is he a snow, a stark, a targeryan, a waters, or a sand? ive heard conflicting reports.

And that’s not even the entire list of possibilities! There are certainly theories out there that John’s mother is Ashara Dayne of Starfall. The TV didn’t choose to go in that direction, but the Starfall Baby Swap is a very valid book theory and the Daynes and the sword Starfall are too prominent in the book to mean nothing. I love R+L=J, but…

lol in the book he is dead dosen'carry anything bro yo dreaming

@@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856 He's Captain Planet's ancestor, clearly.

Yeah i love how they remixed it for Rhaenyra

That's why i wrote once that they should re-watch episode 1 now, of HOTD, i mean. It hits so much more when you are a fan of GoT before you watch HOTD.

That`s what Quaithe told her: "To go north, you must journey south, to reach the west you must go east. To go forward you must go back and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow".

That doesn't explain why he is in the show. You can surprise Maisie without actually making it part of the show.

@@Springheel01There were actually several musical artists that had cameo roles in Game of Thrones, but Ed Sheeran was just the most recognizable. There are lots of songs in the books, but most of the actors aren’t singers, so they would bring in singers to sing the songs. The main exception being Bronn tho. His actor is also a singer, so that’s why he sings several songs in this show

@@Springheel01 why would you care he said 4 words and was just an extra lmao

@@Springheel01you’re not very bright, eh?

@@SnailHatan Ooo, edgy response. You must be quite impressive on the playground.

me too, that's why everyone love Arya because she did surprising unimaginable action

I've read it fast and i read "Walter" I was like why on earth is he bringing breaking bad stuff over there

Theon told Jon that Ghost was his because Ghost was the runt of the litter (generally the one left behind, not as special as their other siblings) and Jon was the bastard, implying that they’re one in the same.

@@duhachowdhury3761 This is a case of book vs. show. Show Theon say that Ghost is Jon's because he is the runt. While book Theon only claims Ghost will die faster due to being an albino and Jon actually stands up for himself and tells Theon off and claims Ghost. Also contrary to the show Ghost is the largest of the litter, at least at the time Robert was at Winterfell. The show kind of neutered Jon from the start.

It's because he's a Snow=White/Stark=Wolf.

I like both theories.

@@cmudd9788 naw that is far too much of reach compared to him literally flying a banner with a white wolf on it as his sigil. You don't see them making the "white" and "snow" reference with other bastards in the north. Even arguing it is because his pet direwolf is white would be a better theory.

Nope

I don't think Arya did that. He was that already when he was protecting Sansa on Cersei's orders.

Very true🔥🔥

Very true🔥🔥

@@seancarroll5803 Why do you people not understand not to post spoilers?

@@Catrambimy thoughts exactly.

@@seancarroll5803why are you ruining the story for those who haven’t seen it. Season 8 is bitter sweet. I personally lived it. . Out of order for ruining the end.

correct. I don't know why that was so hard to read for them? Pudgy and Spartan were a bit confused by it. If anything this show is more grey than black and white.

He's a lost cause - pumped to the tits every time his man Jon comes on the scene and spitting bile at the sight of Cersei. This show has been all shades of grey from the get-go.

Absolutely, grrm himself said, that there's is no "good vs bad" - that's why asoiaf amd the first seasons of GoT are so good, and that's also why the show gets worse

Nah Cersi deserves all the vitriol she got/gets. I despise her and found practically nothing redeeming about her. Not any real gray to her at all. Same for walder frey and others. I agree with the overall point. But that doesn't mean there are some very black and white characters overall.

@@Wicked_Sushidamn you’re going to hate his reactions this season then if you’re frustrated for these points

I think the Szene was just to put Ed Sheeran in. As a gift for Maisie Williams who is a great Fan.

Most people hate all of house Lannisters for Cersei, Joffrey or Tywin even through most come to like Tyrion and often Jamie too while doing so. Mycella and Tommen are also arguably two of the more pure hearted characters. But yeah Footsoldiers are the only tied to their house through the land they live on and depend on the wage to feed their families and also want to keep the armies of other Houses away from the Land their Families dwell in. Can´t judge them for the Nobility that rules them

​@@TorfmoosMaisie william isn't a great fan, they're friends (when I remember correctly)

@@karimabidi8312it was a birthday gift to her from the writers. They wrote the scene in for her

@@karimabidi8312this scene was when she met him…as a fan

That's actually one of the worst parts, it makes no sense one of the biggest castle in Westeros is empty, Cersei just lets her take it because the script says so, a few soldiers can hold the castle for months, Stannis was able to do this, that's how he was granted the castle, that's how Davos got his name 'Ser Onion'... Dragons would be useless here as she wouldn't use them to destroy an ancestral seat and lose a stronghold, nothing makes sense anymore...

@@jamesmswenko8292 I know, it's just nice to see them there, but season overall is stupid, jumping from one place to another, dumb decisions.

@jamesmswenko8292 Stannis did not hold Dragonstone during Robert's Rebellion, he held the Baratheon ancestral home of Storms End which is where Davos slipped in with his onions. Robert gave Stannis Dragonstone after the war. Dany was in fact born right after the war on Dragonstone during a massive storm, thus the Daenerys Stormborn title. Stannis was only given Dragonstone because at the time Robert became king, Stannis was crown prince; and he hated Robert for giving him Dragonstone and giving Storms End to Renly.

@@Jon.A.Scholt Ahh Yes, Stannis took Dragonstone from the Targaryens for Robert, the siege of Dragonstone happens much later, Aurane Waters reported to Cersei about the bloodbath of the Lannister besiegers, close to a thousand men killed and Loras gravely wounded... You get my point, Stannis doesn't leave the castle unprotected.

@@jamesmswenko8292 I'll be interested to see what kind of shape Loras is actually in, you know, when The Winds of Winter comes out next week...😭 But seriously, there are all sorts of theories about Loras and the serious burns he sustained. Though theorizes is all us fans have been able to do for a dozen years....

You're underestimating logic

But he is right, Cersei should have lost very quickly to Dany, she's never been that smart. Dan and Dave ruined the show.

Yeah, that would be Wisdom Hallyne they’re talking about. I know Roy Dotrice passed away in 2017, but I hadn’t really thought about whether or not the character was also considered deceased since that time.

Totally agree with you. I don't want to spoil, but Cersei is not intended to be a Joffrey or Ramsey. She's not a villain, full stop. She's meant to be something else and even the scenes to come should reflect that (and I believe they do in some way). I can't say more, but I hope you get what I mean.

Spartan absolutely hates Cersei even more this season and loves Jon even more this season hahaha

​@@jucor981I know what you're saying. The way I see it - Ramsay was a villain. The Night King is a villain. Cersei ... is more complicated.

Yeah at least Pudgey offers constructive criticism when it comes to Cersei, Spartan just blindly hates her which leaves no room for critical thinking or acknowledgements.

@@jucor981 Lol Cersei bombed the pope, straight up domestic terrorism. She is a Villan 🤣 what do you mean. She's been the villan since E1.

Visenya was the baby girl Rhaenyra lost.

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 both Viserys and Aegon were born at Dragonstone and I stated in my comment the BOY 🙄

Lol don't you love when people try to "correct" your comments and the whole time you're pretty clear? You didn't even mention any other children

the way she touches the sand and was like "I'm here. I'm home. I'm where all my family has been" 😢 she found her red door house

Yeah great on Sansa for lying to Jon about Littlefinger. Great on her for holding information from Jon about the Knights of the Veil. Good on her to come in at the end of the battle to make all about her. Such a winner she is.

@@sparks3705 My dude. I don't disagree with you. It made no sense. But it doesn't change the fact that her aid, coming from the Vale, is what transformed the battled from defeat to victory. I hate how it happened. I'm on the record saying S5 to S8 are shit. But that's what happened in the show. Even Jon said so himself and the end of S6.

@Mic-Mak I dunno. I guess I just get tired of all the Sansa praise when she's actually quite a horrible person. Jon (most likely) wouldn't have even been in the losing position if Sansa just told him from the start about the veil and littlefinger. He even gave her countless opportunities to tell him when she kept going on and on about not having enough men and Jon telling her it's all they have. In fact, I would have had more respect and gratuity for Sansa saving the day if she would have told Jon about getting the Kights of the Viel to join their cause instead of bringing em in in the desperate hour she created for Jon. And I truly believe Sansa is the sole reason for Jon being at the brink of defeat and getting many people killed because of her selfish reasoning of wanting to save the day. To stand back as to say "look how good I helped", etc...

@@sparks3705 Two things can be true at the same time. Sansa can be awfully selfish for not telling Jon about the Vale, AND at the same time, Jon is selfish and a usurper for taking over the ruling of the North, when he knows damn well it should be Sansa. Both of these things are a testament to the horrible writing of the show. All the grievances you have about Sansa, I have shared in my comments for S&P's Battle of the Bastards video. Hre is exactly what I wrote about Sansa in the comments of that video: *_I hate what the show did to Sansa's character in these last couple of episodes._*_ It strenuously contorts the plot and her moral values to absolve her of the terrible compromises that unavoidably come with the decision that she makes. This makes her motivations unclear and confusing._ _Either Sansa planned Littlefinger's late arrival at the Battle of the Bastards, - in which case she's responsible for the carnage, which exposes her willingness to sacrifice both Jon & Rickon to win her little game of thrones. Or, she didn't plan LF's late arrival and gets little credit for the victory. She just got lucky._ _By that logic, that makes Sansa either _*_dumb AND virtuous_*_ for not telling Jon about the Vale, or she is _*_evil AND cunning,_*_ because she's clearly willing to sacrifice both her brothers to win the battle. The show tries to make her virtuous and cunning, as if neither of those scenarios come with bad consequences that make her look bad. And it seems to have worked on most of the audience._ _The audience definitely questions Sansa's decision not to tell Jon about the army of the Vale, but they don't think out the full ramifications of what that means, which is that Jon & Rickon are disposable to her. And S7 seems to reaffirm that. _*_Lilli Loofbourow,_*_ a critic who has not read the books, wrote a brilliant article for this episode called _*_Game of Thrones Has a Sansa Problem,_*_ and it goes into the details of what is wrong with the writing._

Sansa is the *only* reason Jon won. Without the cavalry, Jon and his forces would have succumbed to a superior commander with a perfect battle plan. Ramsay was a scumbag, but he was no dummy. He played Jon effortlessly, and Jon, in typical Stark fashion (more balls than brains), played along perfectly. Strictly speaking, he is a Targaryen, of course, but his mentality is Stark, having been raised by Ned and grown up alongside Robb, both of who could have done with some additional brains.

Si vas siguiendo la lógica de la historia te lo vienes venir, a mí no me impactó para nada. Siempre me imaginé que era ella. Además, no estamos acostumbrados a los flshbacks en esta serie, excepto por Bran y su sentido del cuervo de tres ojos.

@@sousamina ya pero lo que quiero decir es que pasaron mil años entre temporadas y no me acordaba de nada cuando estrenaron esa.

Don’t you rewatch before you start a new season?

Most of the people fighting in the armies are not professional soldiers, they are ordinary common people recruited in times of war and forced to fight for their lords.

@@superkoopatrooper4879 No, it wasn't. The scene would have happened anyway, Ed Sheeran was just an additive.

again, it was just terrible writing for this, too much trying to add the “shock” factor

A rich man's war and a poor man's fight.

spartan: cersei? i aint reading all that

I'm not sure what your point is, you can understand a character and still hate them and hope they don't succeed. Tywin, Balon, Walder and so on. Also Dany isn't a "would-be" Dragon Queen, she's literally a Monarch with 3 Dragons, that is a fact.

Of course she's a villain. She's as bad as the rest of them, Twin, Joffrey, Ramsay, etc...

Cool story. That still doesn't stop her from being a villain though.

No Cersei is a villain, her story just isn’t black and white. And Dany is a queen, just not in the west.

Until he quit quite quickly!

ah yes, the great poop-montage scene, well done

​@@driezzy"why is there no dragon action 24x7, me not likely😭😭😭" - thats what you sound like.

Well, you can deviate from the source material when you pay attention, the problem was there is a lot of illogical stuff and nonsense independent of the source material. Like Bran talking random stuff and Ed is just like "well, I guess yeah, you're Brandon Stark. Because who else would talk like that"???

@@karimabidi8312 Truth be told, even though I started reading the books only after I watched S1 2 years after it first aired, I could forgive much that was left out in the show. Too many smaller houses and names to remember. House Redwyn, House Manderly (Never mind House High Tower, sneaky juggernauts in Old Town since forever.) Suddenly turning Bran into "Eye stare, who would talk like that" when the previous 3 eyed raven trapped in a tree for hundreds of years had no problem communicating coherently. Indeed, sometimes D&D's deviation from source material, for example Arya's and Tywin's scenes in Harrenhal were terrific. As were a few other adaptations and that was why I still hoped..... Silly me!

House Baratheon is gone mate. They probably all regrouped back at Storm's End after suffering so many losses at Winterhell.

@@BhlackBishop Hehe!🤣 Of course they did except that Storm's End, yet another "magical" castle is never mentioned again. Edit: until whatever BS comes next.

I think, they kinda forgot, lol.

respect. The North remembers ✊

He also has a white wolf.

@@herecomesthescience And he's also a Snow which is white.

Agreed. From the first time we meet the hound, the impression I got was guarded, wounded, and sad, not evil or bad to his core. Love the hound!

I knew the first time he called Sansa “Little Bird”🥰

⚜️ I never saw the Hound as bad, either. He's always been completely misunderstood, good guy with an extremely rough/guarded exterior.

The Hound has done some messed up things, like wanting to kill the pig farmer in season 3, or stealing the silver from that man who took him and Arya in. But even then, he was not driven by cruelty but rather a drive to survive in a harsh world. He's a cynic to be sure, but not really evil at heart.

Sandor definitely was a bad person lol, that's what makes his arc good

Lol.... Spartan is the dumbest idiot.... Like literally, every season he's so sure cersei's going to die and everytime she proves him wrong but his idiot a$$ is always ignorant....

@@Rash23215 I agree that his hate for Cersei is ridiculous. She's a complex villain but he doesn't seem to consider that.

Spoilers

@@Duisiwowowoekjeuejdjeuwjwhwj They've already seen it.

All season he’s excited for Cersei’s death but keeps being confused as to why she survives so long

I don't like season 7 but that is a killer line. There is another line that I love very much from season 8, but they're still not there so I'll wait.

Totally. I never thought of that until seeing that scene again just now but he totally did betray them. I mean, god damn. I know she's done some terrible things but she's Tommen's mother. I could never do something like that to my mother-- even if my mother was Cersei. And I don't even get why Jaime got stripped of his title. A stupid move by Tommen in my opinion. Like yeah he 'attacked' the Faith or whatever but that was literally before it even was announced, no?

well it's not like there were a ton of great women in her life to emulate...Olenna always wore her headpiece ;-)

The other ones were terrible

@@hokagedlo6133 episode 9 of season 4 is the best one why you talking shit, the battle of the blackwater was great too. if you like the long night better than those you're a bozo

Yes😂

the cinematic moments saved season 6 the dialog has fallen heavily since season 5

@reddeaddave FACTS

​​​@@reddeaddave4675 Not really. Just another made up bullshit from an angry mob.

Show started going downhill after season 4 but it was after season 6 that things got really bad

Yeah I read somewhere that bastards would use the sigil of their father’s house, just with the colors reversed. The Stark sigil is a grey wolf on a white background. So Jon’s sigil should be a white wolf on a grey background

The difference was that Robb did it for selfish/personal reasons and put all of the North in danger, John did for noble reasons and put no one but himself in danger. If you can't tell the difference, there's no point explaining.

@@E_ClipRobb marrying was the opposite of selfish. He took Jeyne’s maidenhood and married her the next morning, choosing her honour over his own. The showrunners butchered Robb’s character by completely changing it from the books, just like they butchered Catelyn, Stannis, and many others.

​@@baboon1233wtf

Robb was a brilliant military man, but he was a rubbish politician who ignored the safety of 20,000 men following him, the obvious repurcussions that would come of betraying his oath to a vindictive old man like Walder Frey, all because he fancied a girl. That to me is a much more stupid mistake than Jon's mistake, which albeit was a naive one to trust that he wouldn't be betrayed, still gave thorough endorsement for why helping the wildlings was essential for the survival of the whole world. He could've been more prudent, but his actions weren't selfish, and he endangered no one but himself.

@@alexanderb5726jon also ignored his countrymen trying to look heroic during the battle of the bastards 😂

"Arya"

she aint a warrior, she can hold her own in normal fight but she's an assasin

He might make it back on the like list, apparently. Littlefinger's betrayal of Ned a distant memory, it seems ...

🤣❤️

no robb didn't, what show have you been watching???😂😂😂

@@bamaboy99191 I was being sarcastic. My point being that Stannis would never leave Dragonstone with no military force to defend it. When he himself tried to take Dragonstone in the books, it was garrisoned. The idea that Dany would arrive there with no one ready to fight her or at the very least surrender to her is propostrous.

@@Mic-Mak yeah it's dumb af. Even if let's say ALL stannis loyalists died, no way that nobody else would try to occupy it

@@bamaboy99191 Exactly!

And why even go to dragonstone in the first place and for what, a parallel

Or they’ve seen the show before

@@bradcarver8127 they watched house of the dragon first and then came to Got because they enjoyed that so much.

I like when people talk with "us" and "we". Not everyone has the memory of a penguin.

@@veiregorfaxxx. Us is actually U. Ppl shouldnt speak for everyone.

Buffoon. It was obvious it was arya

Same.

I also thought that, but I guess it we because Dragonstone was and is property of the crown, meant to be the home of the heir to the throne. Tommen didn't have an heir, and I don't think anyone would have risked infiltrating a castle as big as that when the Lannisters command the largest army (until Dany of course).

At this present point in time, she is The Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and head of what remains one of the strongest houses in the realm. These two are basically making the same mistakes as those who have gone against the Lannisters in the show - they underestimate them. It really is Spartan's outright hatred of Cersei driving this. Sadly, it's rubbing off on Pudgey.

No she isn’t. Anyone can slap the shit out of her. Totally unrealistic she “puts men in their place” without anyone being like “can someone send the kid to her room”

True. How does Cersi have any claim to the throne. Especially since it's almost common knowledge that she blew the Sept up.

@@williamshelton4318 Inconsistent writing i'm afraid

Yes, as a Lannister she has no claim whatsoever.

Wtf. Robert baratheon won the throne because of his military victories. He had no claim at all on the Iron throne. And the people IS afraid of Targaryen not to mention that Dany brought foreign savages with her.

If you think about technicalities, Robert conquerer the Iron Throne, which means that Viserys and Daenerys virtually had no claim left to it. Just as how their ancestor Aegon I conquered the kingdoms and none of the seven rulers had a claim to the throne any more, just Aegon’s family. After Tommen died, Cersei essentially conquered the throne, and Dany’s claim rests entirely on her conquering the throne, as she technically doesn’t have a claim any more (if you want to be particular), only her last name which they removed from power. The throne was anyone’s taking, but Cersei commands the Lannister army, so nobody would have gone against her unless they were going for Dany (I.e., Dorne and the Reach).

The fast traveling is so freaking annoying after traveling for long stretches was such a large part of the show from the beginning

@@kalecrystal4054 Arya walked with the nights watch for like half a season and then travelled on her own and with the hound for like another season, then this season came around and all of a sudden it's like everyone takes the train :P

Cersei, while the show follows the source material, solves everyone of her problems by creating a bigger problem - and about the point where that should come crumbling down on her the show writers just stop writing consequences to actions. We see something like this with Sansa at the end of season 8 where she does something that in a sane world would sentence the entire north to die of starvation and be utterly rejected by every leader in westeros; but because the writers wanted to make her look smart it is never challenged and played as a moment of triumph. Cersei is stupid af. To think she's smart because the writers made dumb writing decisions is even more so. Tywin, the 'mu house legacy' guy also is not looking down on her suddenly realising he didn't give enough credit to the woman who killed his entire house and legacy. His mistake wasn't underestimating her intelligence, but underestimating that absolute morons can be shockingly successful because they will do things, no smart person would.

​@@oq1106 It doesn't make sense what you're saying, we can say the same thing for all the characters with the subjective choice of the scriptwriters. The writers made you believe that Tywin was intelligent, right up until his death, when he was stupidly tricked. .Just " Let me remind you that he never managed to sit on the Iron Throne, and what's more, he died on the toilet like a piece of shit. While Cersei is still alive, and on the throne". If you think that Tywin is smart, you're as stupid as he is.