The race that no one won - Carlsbad 1982 (Muddy!)

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16 жыл бұрын

supercross.com - April 1982. Famed Carlsbad Raceway in southern California. It had rained all week, but on Sunday, the locals came out to give it a try - about a dozen brave souls! The track was horrific - Carlsbad's clay surface gets very slippery when you add water. All sizes and skill levels in one class - which no one won, because no one finished!
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@bobylax
@bobylax 11 жыл бұрын
Just came across this video. Awesome!! Both my brothers raced that weekend, I decided to stay home, glad I did. They said the 1st lap 1st moto, no one could make it up the hill, and they ended up diverting to bypass the hill. The Carlsbad clay was NASTY!!! You almost had to chissel off your bike. Thank you for sharing and bringing back some great memories.
@Czechsix
@Czechsix 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this...brings back memories. I ride past the Carlsbad Raceway Business park every day, sucks that it's gone. It was a fun place.
@evolasme
@evolasme 16 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh Carlsbad in the rain.. hell it was like that every weekend before practice. Took you life in your hands if you were one of the first ones out.. broke my collarbone on that uphill section during practice once when it was like that. great track though and loads of fun. I think i won more races there then anywhere else.
@yamit465
@yamit465 15 жыл бұрын
Hi all These are 125cc bikes. The problem is not any lack of power, but rather lack of speed. I think that any bike would have a problem there, no matter how powerful, the key to this left turn and uphill in these conditions is to keep the speed UP ! Don´t disrespect the old bikes, chances are you might have one nipping at your heels and even crushing the new techno-shits (if well maintained and ridden correctly - that is :) Thanks for a great MX-history video, Mr. racerace
@FallGuy104
@FallGuy104 16 жыл бұрын
I love racing in those kind of conditions..sure brings back memories..nice video..
@moose250R
@moose250R 13 жыл бұрын
Great footage,thanks for sharing!
@MCTeck
@MCTeck 16 жыл бұрын
The last race I saw there was 1971! Thanks! great Vid ,and choice of background music!!
@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 15 жыл бұрын
Love that 2 stroke sound.
@yam187yam
@yam187yam 12 жыл бұрын
I was there on that day and it was maybe october or november of 1982. Like the other guys have said, there are some 1983 bikes in the video. When Carlsbad was this muddy, it was like riding on mud over the top of ice. ZERO traction. Its funny how some of the comments say that the tires were not as good back then so thats why they can't make it through or that the riders suck. Not the case, at all. Pick your best new tire and go ride on wet blacktop and see where it gets ya!
@EmperorNerox
@EmperorNerox 2 жыл бұрын
The junior class at Carlsbad in mid 80s would smoke the expert class of today at any track
@ossidog
@ossidog 14 жыл бұрын
That was the golden era covered in mud, great track.
@kellienicolebrooksschettin6598
@kellienicolebrooksschettin6598 5 жыл бұрын
One day when I was riding in the woods on my way over to this little track that was just a good little work out,I run into a bunch of guys just as I get to the track on race bikes,first one I see beautiful MAICO 490 that all these guys worship ed,turned out we all friends of friends and my little track belong to and was built by my co-worker who was good enuf and was the expert in the group...so we all hook up and start riding their old stumping grounds that were mind now...on the way over to the old big track one guy rides over and starts riding a wash out area but his front wheels goes into the mud and three of us could not pull the front wheel out for shit it was like it was super glued in there,I was think some one in China was just holding it messing with us,kind like guy two guys forget go get the backhoe...some dirt when water gets mixed in from heavy rains,I think when there is a heavy rock base it becomes super slick,or just the clay base...like oil..no fun you get more traction in snow...no lie.
@kimkleiner8456
@kimkleiner8456 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone see first heat of Unidilla in '77? Pouring rain and the course included a steep downhill, off camber 180° and right back up the hill. The whole field with the exception of Roger DeCoster and an English dude on a 4 stroke Honda, got stuck at the bottom of that turn and most of the riders didn't complete the first lap. There were many frustrated riders and fans but I had a great view and it my favorite mx race of all time. It literally separated the men from the boys.
@djn00nan
@djn00nan 14 жыл бұрын
i never had ridden in clay till i came out west, now when people say 'if it rains a drop, dont go there' i listen. lol it is fun riding in the mud tho
@ssrider7
@ssrider7 15 жыл бұрын
awsome vid
@motoxdoc21
@motoxdoc21 13 жыл бұрын
This is too funny! That’s me #B56 at 1:08. As I come into the pic I stop and check things out just to make sure the coast is clear. Lol. Then I proceed up the infamous Carlsbad freeway…..a little squirrely but I think I made it! Probably a CMC points race…..practice maybe. 29 years ago! Ian Fitz-G
@scottziegler8094
@scottziegler8094 3 жыл бұрын
13 years later this is on my feed page.......................wth?
@Voyagersail
@Voyagersail 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a link to the full video of this race?
@bongofury5924
@bongofury5924 6 жыл бұрын
You SoCal sissies. It looks like just another winter race at Sandhill Ranch in Brentwood, CA. If you showed up, they would race. Tom Anderson made men of us.......
@quasarkneepro7758
@quasarkneepro7758 6 жыл бұрын
bongo fury you don't even know Carlsbad , the whole track sat I a giant bowl were all the water ran in with nowhere to go plus it's the snottiest slime clay ever . I was there . My 125 wouldn't make on lap , got so clogged up it wouldn't roll . normally Carlsbad is hard packed , blue groove , but put some water on it ...?!
@bicyclerider56
@bicyclerider56 5 жыл бұрын
Tom was a good guy.. to bad the wrong people were around him., Sandhill is exactly like Carlsbad, SNOT MUD JUST Carlsbad has long uphills... Your are a motocross Rider Mud is just something else to adapt too.. Its Motocross
@fladam1994
@fladam1994 11 жыл бұрын
Only one weeks worth of rain? Come riding in the UK, My bike once got stuck in so much mud it could support it's own weight, it came up over the discs.
@Rusted_Link
@Rusted_Link 13 жыл бұрын
@racerace Great Video!
@TheYamaha94
@TheYamaha94 12 жыл бұрын
oh how motocross has advanced! modern day bikes would breeze this, so cool to look back
@Jake.Rose.
@Jake.Rose. 10 жыл бұрын
If Kevin Windham was there the title would be "The race that everyone got beat" lol
@Jake.Rose.
@Jake.Rose. 9 жыл бұрын
***** Kevin Windham is retired
@Meditech509
@Meditech509 13 жыл бұрын
To all the gentleman from other countries saying the Americans can not ride in the mud. I believe you should type in the search, 1987 Motocross Des Nations. Nuff said.
@jwctex14
@jwctex14 13 жыл бұрын
They dabbed more than me, and that is hard.
@stuarthipkins8336
@stuarthipkins8336 Жыл бұрын
Wonder whats on the track now..homes condos..someone tell me the track address..where it was anyway.
@Inv4derxXx
@Inv4derxXx 14 жыл бұрын
@ridebmmxxx the mud in englannd is different than the mud in california... do i need to get scientific with it? because i will
@xipingpooh5783
@xipingpooh5783 3 жыл бұрын
Good times 👍🏼🇺🇸
@manuelontiveros3685
@manuelontiveros3685 9 жыл бұрын
no mano, no. estoy que no puedo escribir rapido, es divertido lo que hacen los corredores, parece q perdieron la ruta, unos van subiendo pero otros bajan x donde estos quieren subir,
@EmperorNerox
@EmperorNerox 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine 8 laps in that shit lol would take all day. That was a real track. Concrete covered w a thin layer of dust. RJ lapped that track faster than any human in history . RIP
@thomasearl9732
@thomasearl9732 5 жыл бұрын
I have been in some rase like that
@jhareng
@jhareng 14 жыл бұрын
@macroevolve I agree 83 on it is. Why so many older bikes, was this a newbies comp. The more you go round the drier it gets!
@Voyagersail
@Voyagersail 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any better footage available?
@mAdAsZaC
@mAdAsZaC 13 жыл бұрын
i always struggle with a 2-stroke in the mud... i need to get used to it :P
@josedacunhafilho
@josedacunhafilho 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when it rained in California
@bsharpy
@bsharpy 15 жыл бұрын
Man this brings back memory's. Gimme a K990ST! And that 48 tooth rear sprocket!
@blaze2020
@blaze2020 15 жыл бұрын
wow i want to do that now
@ensigny2k
@ensigny2k 13 жыл бұрын
@nick4tivy 'paddle tires' very good idea
@KTM3DAN
@KTM3DAN 13 жыл бұрын
@gregf509 and 2008 Daytona Supercross :)
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones 14 жыл бұрын
Doug Henry and John Dowd are the only Americans I know of who were great in the mud.
@bobbyhill789
@bobbyhill789 14 жыл бұрын
any day u wanna hit the track buddy
@johnnyofast5924
@johnnyofast5924 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine this is just practice as I see 125 250 and open all on the track at the same time.
@MetricHotrodsdotcom
@MetricHotrodsdotcom 13 жыл бұрын
@ashman286 carmichael was 17 years old in 97. just a kid. look at the record books NOW.
@spruland
@spruland 12 жыл бұрын
Did a 5 hour enduro that was like this........never EVER again!
@jasonc5304
@jasonc5304 3 жыл бұрын
That fantastic hard clay with a bit of water? You'd have better traction on ice with slicks. I bet coming back down the Freeway was a bit eye opening.
@Xzen0N
@Xzen0N 15 жыл бұрын
remember guys... its just old bikes, with no power... the bikes we have today its no problem to ride in this stuff... (sry for my bad english) :P
@nickmajor1471
@nickmajor1471 11 жыл бұрын
0:50 hahaha nice line!
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones 14 жыл бұрын
Looks more like a mud bog competition than a motorcross race!
@pressrolls
@pressrolls 7 жыл бұрын
This cant be 1982. Theres 1983 production bikes which wouldnt have seen a track in April of 1982. Your video begins with a 1983 CR250 shortly after you see a 1983 YZ250K.
@patrickschnall9443
@patrickschnall9443 6 жыл бұрын
Weren't the Works bikes next years production bikes?
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 5 жыл бұрын
There are no works bikes in this amateur race. Yamaha at 1:27 is defiantly an 83, when Yamaha took the radiator off the triple clamps, (behind the number plate), and moved them lower on each side of the frame. I had the 82 model.
@Cormier877
@Cormier877 13 жыл бұрын
looks like Southwick last weekend...
@Rusted_Link
@Rusted_Link 13 жыл бұрын
@kaseycoleman993 It dosen't Snow in Florida!
@tomwilliams4885
@tomwilliams4885 5 жыл бұрын
And their still talking about all the fun they had that day . . .
@ktmrider401
@ktmrider401 15 жыл бұрын
thats how the LLQ was at Thunder Valley this year. it sucked. but i still qualified!
@0780marco
@0780marco 12 жыл бұрын
I think this single race furthered the advancement of better tires Lol
@akseli9
@akseli9 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, and #37 made it too.
@ensigny2k
@ensigny2k 13 жыл бұрын
@HeffoG35 I'm sure..
@85raminator
@85raminator 13 жыл бұрын
too bad KDub wasnt racing back then, lol hes a mud expert!
@wiithepeople2
@wiithepeople2 13 жыл бұрын
@CODEEmx527 And the track went on to win the championship :P
@00abc00100
@00abc00100 13 жыл бұрын
cool helmets :DD
@Mahoney2385
@Mahoney2385 15 жыл бұрын
those riders have been raised on fancy dry dirt the way we were tought out on the farm is hammer down nd go not go half way nd wonder should da power band flip me
@davidm4160
@davidm4160 4 жыл бұрын
His father was a mudder, his mother was a mudder
@CNYvintageMX
@CNYvintageMX 13 жыл бұрын
was this pro or amatuer?
@jeremywalters2205
@jeremywalters2205 4 жыл бұрын
1983.
@h0ndarider333
@h0ndarider333 16 жыл бұрын
the guy at 6:10 til 6:23 was goin good as.
@shudahknive
@shudahknive 12 жыл бұрын
That hill is very slippery.
@two_stroke_abuser
@two_stroke_abuser 15 жыл бұрын
us here in england are use to the wet mud and non pristine tracks, to be honest if i was there id have ripped the lot of these people.. not that thats really an achievmant ANYWAY good vid :D i love seeing the old mx vids
@almeidakrn
@almeidakrn 16 жыл бұрын
this is like arcos tt its a free for all lol nice vid
@dancefishdance
@dancefishdance 15 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for that one yamaha dude at 5:40-6:20
@89Silhouette
@89Silhouette 15 жыл бұрын
because the 450 is to slow for the next class up so they threw it in with the 250 2-T's, cant remember the whole story but the rules alowed them to race in the same class as one another.
@tosselina
@tosselina 13 жыл бұрын
Is that a motocross race? :) looks more like enduro :o
@AlluZ123
@AlluZ123 12 жыл бұрын
Ah, isn't that just lovely? All the bikes are 2 strokes. I wish it would be like that these days as well
@scottsmith5948
@scottsmith5948 3 жыл бұрын
Never rains out there so no one knows how to ride muddy conditions
@chriscardoza9714
@chriscardoza9714 5 жыл бұрын
Should have used a lot WD 40 on your bike to shed to mud off of it l still do that to this day on all my bikes..
@eligh54321
@eligh54321 13 жыл бұрын
the days when 2 strokes ruled the show :) the good days
@hobbes937
@hobbes937 15 жыл бұрын
I can! In my last mud race I passed 34 people to go from dead last to first in 4 laps
@EmperorNerox
@EmperorNerox 2 жыл бұрын
Where at? Lol
@hobbes937
@hobbes937 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmperorNerox it was a local race in the "old and slow" class in Batavia, NY.🤣. A win is a win though, and I'll brag about it until the day I die!
@EmperorNerox
@EmperorNerox 2 жыл бұрын
@@hobbes937 damn straight!! The names of classes bust me up sometimes though old n slow. There was the vintage dinosaur class at willow springs for bikes 10 years or older. Lol. That was road racing though
@mcmc8496
@mcmc8496 6 жыл бұрын
More throttle, they need to work on their skimming technique, similar to the way I cross my pond, and the exit from the pond is very similar to the consistency of this muck. Momentum is your friend, never forget or at least close your mouth if you do! That muck taste turrible after it's cooked for a few years!
@jfracing911
@jfracing911 13 жыл бұрын
toute un touriste!
@nick4tivy
@nick4tivy 13 жыл бұрын
Oxy Clean for the win
@nick4tivy
@nick4tivy 13 жыл бұрын
Two words: Paddle Tires.
@motored911
@motored911 15 жыл бұрын
where's dowd & henry when you need them!!
@johnalbert1460
@johnalbert1460 Жыл бұрын
3 hr motos . One lap .
@MxChick216
@MxChick216 13 жыл бұрын
oh wow XD
@oo0Spyder0oo
@oo0Spyder0oo 6 жыл бұрын
Putting silly music over the awesome sound of 2 strokes was sacrilege.
@thedankeep
@thedankeep 15 жыл бұрын
are they riding with supermoto tyres lol !!! O and motocross has sure came a long way
@ensigny2k
@ensigny2k 13 жыл бұрын
@motoxdoc21 That was funny.. You looked around like you were questioning the whole race/situation
@BoobFetish1
@BoobFetish1 11 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the first and last time I raced at Carlsbad. I let off the gas on one of these muddy downhills and the killer compression of my 125 two-stroke made the bike slide totally sideways. Ree-Dick-U-Lus. Good riddance Carlsbad. Hello Legoland.
@Nash1a
@Nash1a 14 жыл бұрын
This is not a race. Its probably just an open practice time. If it were a race, there's wouldn't be any doubt which direction to ride in.
@lucasman3x
@lucasman3x 12 жыл бұрын
Traction is 100% in this race I don't see why no one could finish? :P
@yella322
@yella322 15 жыл бұрын
yes, most of the bikes at this time were 2 strokes, and the very few 4 strokes they had were too big and heavy.
@baraklee263
@baraklee263 13 жыл бұрын
how did #73 not win?
@SiskyouRider
@SiskyouRider 12 жыл бұрын
Thats some funny shit. To bad M5B's we'rent available back then.
@143Chippy143
@143Chippy143 8 жыл бұрын
If this was in April of 1982 then how is there a guy @ 1:24 riding a 1983 YZ 250 then ??
@143Chippy143
@143Chippy143 8 жыл бұрын
I know my YZ's very well, Its the radiator and shrouds, They are not on the triple clams like in 81- 82, In 83 They are below the gas tank and have black shrouds like the bike in the video, There are actually a few of them in that video if you look for them.
@coynemxMOP
@coynemxMOP 15 жыл бұрын
at 6:10 thats how your supose to be riden thought the mud.
@seeker292
@seeker292 13 жыл бұрын
so why wouldnt you just go faster through the sticky sections.
@Terrub_Ullum
@Terrub_Ullum 16 жыл бұрын
that was 'long winded' but funny... I wonder how much of their troubles was because of limitations of the bikes? Didn't they make 'mud' tyres in 1984? Nice one....
@alschi17
@alschi17 13 жыл бұрын
":04 min. cool Whip haha :D
@marshallstewart4319
@marshallstewart4319 12 жыл бұрын
2:13 were is that goon going haha
@ethics3
@ethics3 4 жыл бұрын
If this is 1982 , how come i see many 1983 bikes ?
@runescapeownsnubs
@runescapeownsnubs 13 жыл бұрын
hahaha actually looks like heaps of fun :)!
@ninga36
@ninga36 13 жыл бұрын
if i had to choose a bike for this i would probably choose a 2002 ktm 520
@Inv4derxXx
@Inv4derxXx 14 жыл бұрын
@ridebmmxxx there is a difference between clay and mud... wet clay is mushy and unpredictable, mud is more conforming and predictable
@MichaelTaylor-ln9ll
@MichaelTaylor-ln9ll 8 жыл бұрын
Kent Howerton must have not raced this race or there would have been a winner. Anyway this looks like practice or something since there are no spectators and guys would turn around and ride the other way once they couldn't go forward anymore. I wonder how Bubba Stewart would have fared on this track?
@ogirhb
@ogirhb 8 жыл бұрын
JN Roberts would have blasted threw it on a old triumph,JN Roberts rode the 1,000 mile Baja when he was 70 yrs old I believe that's how old he was
@bultacowally
@bultacowally 6 жыл бұрын
Bubba Stewart would have quit.....
@7pines77
@7pines77 6 жыл бұрын
Now a days a track in this condition would be scraped off before racing
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