Cheers really glad to hear you enjoy them.

Check out this video of Red Flag: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9KBrc2Y0srRgI0.html It provides a good overview of Red Flag operations from the perspective of an American fighter pilot.

My bother was a navigator flying in that particular exercise. Same year his Sqn lost a crew when a wing sadly broke off the plane in front of his. Amazing crews & planes back then - the best.

The British pilot was incorrect about the air to air kill ratio in Vietnam. It was about 2 to 1 in favor of the USAF, which was not acceptable either.

Cheers

Thanks. Yes it does make all the difference in the world.

Thanks Phillip.

Thanks.

Good thing they didn’t see all the Sasquatches there (the space aliens are a cover story).

I assume they do but I haven’t heard of anything.

Vietnam and Korea

Cheers Keith.

Here's something that might be of interest to you, Keith: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9KBrc2Y0srRgI0.html

Yes. Stick a wingtip over the line & you are in deep kimchi.

The location? It is at Yorkshire Air Museum.

For some reason the previous upload was cut at 25min, this is the full version.

@@TheFulcrum2000 That's odd, I'm sure I managed to watch the full thing yesterday, all 47 mins, with the map bit at the end.

@Ian Mangham Hmm, must be. Thank God for sporks!

I think he meant that ME was real warfare whereas red flag was as close as you could get without going to war.

@@peterjohnson350 .. Maybe so, but these types frighten the living shit out of me.

It would indeed be interesting - the Aggressor pilots were exemplary in their professionalism and their adherence to Soviet ROE, so I very much doubt that they would claim to have "waxed the RAF guests like shooting cows with a high-powered scope." And of course Red Flag was a training exercise and not a competition. Interestingly, the performance of the Tornado in the early Gulf War missions very closely matched that on the Nellis ranges - another example of just how good the exercise was - with only one low-level loss due to a Roland missile of which the crew were unaware (and of course were unable to terrain mask at night); one aircraft flew into the ground as a result of a systems failure and one was shot down from a mis-flown loft attack - and they would have been "shot down" on Red Flag too! But it is not really appropriate to compare night TF tactics with day OLF - a bit like comparing apples with pears... I think that the bottom line was that Red Flag was a fantastic training exercise from which crews from across the USAF, USN, USMC, RAF and various other allied air forces learnt how to work together and how to maximize their chances of surviving the first missions and being effective in combat - as indeed the Tornado Force was during the Gulf War.

Pancho Nuts I’ve heard many USAF pilots speak including aggressors........and they have nothing but admiration for RAF crew, aircraft and tactics.

The Buccaneer was the first aircraft to' shoot down' an F15 at Red Flag through use of a retard bomb but it had to climb about 1000 feet to do so as the F15 could not get anywhere near low enough for the Bananabomber to sucker him in. There are videos of the Buccs flying too low for even the video recordings to capture a clear pic but the US voiceover can be incredulous.

Yeah it would be interesting, I’ve never heard a US pilot talking about it, maybe it never happened or maybe the pilots respect each other or maybe they were new pilots learning from experienced pilots in a war game and were too busy to get involved in your bs.