The Real Reason MatPat Quit YouTube

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Game Theory's MatPat & Stephanie drop by to talk all things quitting KZfaq, retiring and selling Theorist Media to Lunar X.
00:00 Who are MatPat and Stephanie?
02:25 Steph…Pat?
04:00 So, you’re retiring?
05:30 The channel’s three hooks
07:45 The Sarapocial relationship
09:27 When they started thinking about retirement
14:40 AI voice clones
19:12 Would Colin and Samir retire?
28:12 What happened in 2018?
32:23 Their work/life balance thoughts
36:04 What motivates them to work so hard?
41:33 How to communicate your creative vision
48:08 How big is Theorist Media?
50:06 How to hire in KZfaq
59:35 Their DIY style brand
1:05:40 Their production schedule
1:09:30 An inside look into how they sold their company to Lunar X
1:27:22 Their profit margins
1:32:50 Data to prove their acquisition value
1:35:45 The playbook for launching new channels
1:44:09 Revenue breakdown
1:49:30 Their roles
1:53:16 Will they ever be fully out?
1:57:16 What’s the opposite of happiness?
2:03:47 Their thoughts on KZfaq today
2:22:18 What data should KZfaqrs care about?
2:30:32 MatPat’s final video
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@GameTheory 3 ай бұрын

A great chat with a couple of great guys! Thank you for having us and sharing our love of niche buisness acronyms and After Effects keyframing techniques!

@PButts008 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for all you’ve done for the platform. Appreciated your content all these years.

@pandill0 3 ай бұрын

hey!!! its the guy!!!!! hes in the video!!!!! :0

@A1Animator 3 ай бұрын

Thats not just a theory.

@tolgacetiner1243 3 ай бұрын

#BlameJason for miscounting the final theories

@Nightcaat 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Matthew “Game Theory” Patrick, very cool!

@thatllwork_official 3 ай бұрын

They put out 11 videos a week, all of which MatPat is involved in, and still have 2 1/2 hours to sit down with Colin and Samir…weird flex, but ok. I’m impressed.

@onebee4real 3 ай бұрын

Pretty cool right?

@random-uploaders 3 ай бұрын

didn't expect to see yall here lol

@CowDudeYFGA 3 ай бұрын

Im better then matpat

@Gnidel 3 ай бұрын

The videos have been recorded before, and their voiceovers even earlier.

@joshuarmost 3 ай бұрын

Matt and Steph are just built different

@TheMerfolkAdult 3 ай бұрын

The fact that they decided to also include Steph, when Matt has repeatedly said how much it pains him when people ignore her, yeah props to you.

@PunsandPixels 3 ай бұрын

He said that? 🥹 that’s so tender.

@caiii_i3512 2 ай бұрын

@@PunsandPixels yeah, he said in an interview that since he's the face of the channel, Steph is often ignored even though she works just as hard as him. Steph won in life, having such a loving husband

@alexanderthedead5 2 ай бұрын

Some might say they both won in life :) I was so sad when Steph stopped doing GTLive, she's great!@@caiii_i3512

@theshermantanker7043 2 ай бұрын

I mean I was kinda sad seeing her not being in newer lets play streams for GTLive...

@PunsandPixels 2 ай бұрын

@@theshermantanker7043 didn’t they have a child though? That’s probably why

@ChrisEcho 3 ай бұрын

MatPat stepping back from the frontlines to become BossPat. Makes sense.

@thelifewithnate 3 ай бұрын

It's like a Pokémon evolution, after 10+ years in the game MatPat used the KZfaq stone to become BossPat! Best of luck to both of them though, they have been grinding for more than a decade which is crazy on here.

@MelonMemies 3 ай бұрын

*I am Melon,*

@PeekismanProductions 3 ай бұрын

@@MelonMemiesLETS GO!!!! MELON!

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 3 ай бұрын

I'll tell you exactly what's happening here all the large corporations are working together to buy out the channel because of all the information that he gives out on the channel this is why he's had a successful buyout he has hit a lot of nails Square on the head and they want to own the channel that way they can pull those important videos off and delete them... like the one about the Matrix and how There's No Escape. Pop a red pill Pop a blue pill split your reality and go both ways! Just recently destroyed the entire plot of GTA V in one Theory completely analyzed it and figured out the root truth of the entire plot so they just want to shut down matpat ultimately he's prying back too many boards and exposing things they don't want exposed!!

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

Natural evolution

@nicknockk 3 ай бұрын

steph is so well spoken, and i aspire to be as eloquent and ambitious as her one day

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

She’s a pro

@halfbee7886 3 ай бұрын

You can start by being ambitious, then follow through it.

@MeetMrMayhem88 3 ай бұрын

Beauty and brains. Matt's a lucky guy 🤙

@meisstupid 3 ай бұрын

Matpat may be the spokesperson of the channels, but Steph is the one behind it all

@prehistoricorchid3455 3 ай бұрын

Right? I'm honestly really happy Steph is finally included in these discussions. I feel she's kinda forgotten but man she's done SO MUCH for these channels

@ladrac198 3 ай бұрын

Okay but can we talk for a second about how both Matt and Steph are two of the most grounded, well-rounded, emotionally mature and secure people I've ever seen?! Like seriously, they have taught me so much about life and what it means to be a good human. And they are the gold standard of couple goals!!

@Chillarmyssb 3 ай бұрын

oh absolutely, i can already tell that they are great parents

@ParaplegicKeanuReeves 3 ай бұрын

Alright.....lol

@justjack324 2 ай бұрын

We need more people like them

@DutchGuyMike Ай бұрын

ENFP (MattPat, and Steph either being INTP/ENTP). The former was confirmed by Matt himself.

@asherburns2953 4 күн бұрын

That whole system is psudoscience.

@GarageStrength 3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how many people know how valuable this info is... this is kind of a blueprint for running a KZfaq business.

@warfu_ 3 ай бұрын

It's like listening to literal veterans... but YT veterans! And then talking about business, format, life balance, types of channels, is even educational. (And C&S put sections about every topic 👌🙏✨)

@TheLumbologist 3 ай бұрын

That's basically C&S content model. They are less a channel for viewers and more a channel for people who make/want to make content.

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 3 ай бұрын

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

Fr like this is the stuff right here

@Just_Some_Gal 3 ай бұрын

Just about

@srslyawkward3095 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate how much y'all acknowledged Stephanie's contribution to the Theorist family. I feel like most of the media coverage has painted her as a footnote and not as the partner she has been in this whole venture.

@Itzeltelle.z 3 ай бұрын

Steph is a strong women. From going to birth your child, on top of a tragic loss and running a team alongside her partner is insane.

@kaof-1958 3 ай бұрын

I think people are missing that part, this is why you need an exit strategy and this is what they're talking about

@illuminahearts3113 3 ай бұрын

Ttsgic loss? What happened? :(

@mitchellb4551 3 ай бұрын

@@illuminahearts3113 she references it in the vid but one of the main editors for the theorist brand took his own life in 2018.

@mage1439 3 ай бұрын

@@mitchellb4551 Yeah, right around exactly the same time she gave birth, too.

@ParaplegicKeanuReeves 3 ай бұрын

Life happens and people overcome shit every day lol

@emmabrook9691 2 ай бұрын

I’m so glad they included Steph, she plays such a huge role and deserves to be heard

@ZaffreRevolution 3 ай бұрын

i'm really glad you all invited stephanie for this. i'm a big fan of both for creating such a great business, and it's really frustrating for matpat to get almost all of the attention when it's really a team effort. and seeing them in this interview really shows how well the two work together as a couple and business partners. kudos to you all, this was such a great watch

@Juju2927 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, MatPat explain multiple times how frustrating it felt to both of them to have "professionals" only consider MatPat for business conversation, when Steph is actually in charge of as much, if not more, of the Business part of their company.

@IkerUnzu 3 ай бұрын

2:02:00 Wow… this really makes me think about what really matters in life.

@cookie25492 3 ай бұрын

Thumbs upping this so more ppl see it. Their point on happiness vs interesting is life changing to me.

@jma3038 3 ай бұрын

@@cookie25492 same here

@jma3038 3 ай бұрын

absolutely

@Dominik-K 3 ай бұрын

I agree

@feevrdreams 2 ай бұрын

“Mo’ money Mo’ problems” gotta be the realist quote I’ve ever heard in my life

@hikaruyoroi 3 ай бұрын

It's crazy how humanizing these interviews are. It's probably been close to a decade since I last heard MatPat's voice. And yet this is probably one of the more captivating videos I've watched in a long time. Stephanie is completely new to me, and they are such an engaging speaker.

@MelonMemies 3 ай бұрын

*I am Melon,*

@_HGT_ 3 ай бұрын

Ello melon

@Azure70 3 ай бұрын

You never watched GT Live?

@shibaru24 3 ай бұрын

Have you never seen gt live?

@joelbouma1640 3 ай бұрын

It's gt not live guys

@maikel3915 3 ай бұрын

I love how MatPat pays attention to Steph, you can see the love in his eyes

@micahbirdlover8152 3 ай бұрын

ikr 😊

@billyalarie929 2 ай бұрын

He really is one of the good ones

@bug7055 5 күн бұрын

the way he looks at her is true love

@AthenaElle 3 ай бұрын

I was listening to this without watching. I heard Stephanie’s voice for most of it. That made me so happy. She deserves so much praise for the success she has brought to her business and her industry.

@jerotoro2021 3 ай бұрын

If you watch Matpat's face as Steph is talking, he is 100% focused and silently listening to her. You can see the love and respect he has for her.

@devinashby4670 2 ай бұрын

Their*

@Huddy22009 3 ай бұрын

1:38:40 I love how Steph talks about channels mimicking their thumbnails as friendly support, community, and shared visual language. A "dialogue"! There isn't competition, jealousy, or threat here. I feel like I never hear people talk like this. Steph acknowledges their inspiration and research, and then isn't quick to defend what she creates as uniquely hers. It's a part of a public discourse and she welcomes that. So cool! I've only seen a handful of Theory videos and I've never seen anything with Steph before, but I'm hugely impressed by her! Like genius business brain there.

@pokecraftmaster8781 2 ай бұрын

Yeah! Steph wasn't actually in any Theory video specifically. She was always in the background of the videos, never the foreground. The only time she ever was in a video specifically were the GTLive Livestreams which she was on the couch with Matpat as kinda the "community voice" so to say? Like how a streamer would play a game and talk to chat? Matpat would play and steph would talk to chat on the streams.

@sand2159 2 ай бұрын

@@pokecraftmaster8781 for me both of them were the host for the livestreams

@animalmace 3 ай бұрын

This has to be one of the most insightful videos I've watched in a while, insane value and so motivational. Will definitely be watching this multiple times

@Kenryoku_Kaze 2 ай бұрын

I noticed you when I was scrolling

@Jurassic_Park_1993 Ай бұрын

This video made me cry alot

@rhyldrin2478 3 ай бұрын

The attentiveness Matthew shows in the beginnings of this interview are remarkable to me, his eyes never leave his partner for reassurance; They are glued to her, measuring each response alongside her cadence and candor. I aspire to meet such a goal with a loved one. yall are amazing

@Kittylynx101 3 ай бұрын

I hadn’t noticed it but your right. Not once is Stephanie talking and Matt isn’t watching and attentively listening. It really does show how much he loves and really admires her.

@liberpolo5540 8 күн бұрын

Ikr? Watching those two talk and interact is always a joy

@yoshi_JH 3 ай бұрын

It’s kinda like Doctor Who, MatPat is just regenerating into a new presenter for the channels, each with their own spin on the show! It is the end of a huge chapter in KZfaq, but it’s also the start of a new one.

@SuperAaron360 3 ай бұрын

That’s a better way to think of it

@DOG_EATER_1887 3 ай бұрын

ain't you V2

@alexrs6943 3 ай бұрын

Someone actually put it into words. I didn't know how to explain it but this hits the nail right on the head. Every theorist has their own twist and personality, and it *builds* the creation

@alexrudie3538 3 ай бұрын

I'm so glad Stef is here. She's so important to the channels, so smart, and so much fun. I miss getting to hear from her.

@brianwakem4727 3 ай бұрын

So happy Steph finally gets the chance to be fully spoken and heard by the hosts. Her and Matt and truly intertwined in the healthiest way possible and understand how to get the point across in such a meaningful way. Love this episode!

@teensyvlogs 3 ай бұрын

honestly it's so lovely to hear Steph's insight, I loved it when she was a regular on GTLive, I always find she speaks with such clarity and intelligence

@hjewkes 3 ай бұрын

Colin and Samir have become the youtube equivalent to celebrities in the 90s going on Oprah after something big happened to them

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 3 ай бұрын

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

@CNoel 3 ай бұрын

Best comparison I’ve heard for sure

@bobbybrilliance 3 ай бұрын

I literally thought this it's like the male version of Oprah for creators. Excellent format

3 ай бұрын

Best podcast on the internet hands-down. So informative for those who want to be creators.

@Colin-_24 3 ай бұрын

This dude is everywhere and so am i

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

@@Colin-_24ok

@LearnHowtoSign 3 ай бұрын

Love this so much. My wife and I have recently gone full time with our KZfaq channel and the business we spun off of it. We also specifically branded topically and not personally so it could live on beyond us someday. We’re no where near retirement, but it’s encouraging to see a path on how to get there someday. 🤟Brian

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

Hope it goes well

@phrog4479 3 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh i watched one of your vids in my asl class, that’s cool

@LCount 3 ай бұрын

Key takeaway: We always needed more Stephanie

@billyalarie929 2 ай бұрын

I’m so glad we heard from her so much, legit.

@bear3616 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@seabicuit7247 3 ай бұрын

I’ve enjoyed the Game Theorist channel but I’m going to be miss GTLive the most. Even though she retired prior to this, seeing Mat and Steph’s banter on the live show was so much fun. Their chemistry was amazing, no surprise as they’re married. I look forward to see what they do next and hope they will do more joint videos in the future.

@nuqi 3 ай бұрын

This is such a great interview! Colin and Samir always bring in the best guests.

@dsmpclips4662 3 ай бұрын

hey nuqi my chigga ❤

@off6617 3 ай бұрын

I truly think that Stephanie is one of the most brilliant spoken individuals in this industry. I’m very glad to see her shine in this interview, she is amazingly intelligent and engaging. Excellent interview guys.

@LadyCay129 3 ай бұрын

So happy you’re saying “they”. So often Steph gets talked over or overlooked, it’s time we recognize they both made game theory together

@user-fz4hf2jd3g 3 ай бұрын

I can’t explain how much it means to have Stephanie sit down too. She’s been such a big part of the channel and to see her here is so beautiful.

@fabianvandenberg6642 3 ай бұрын

i've heard matt talk about how sad he was about how people disregarded steph's opinions and everything, i get it now, she's an amazingly dedicated woman and truly the genius behind matt. Respect to you both!

@AruthaSilverthorn 3 ай бұрын

It really shows Mat is the actor researcher Stef is the businessman

@heretolearn7694 3 ай бұрын

Steph is so well spoken. They are a true partnership, and she is every bit the equal in this success and history. I’m so glad I watched this.

@nafyne 3 ай бұрын

Really great to see Stephanie being here, she’s an insanely huge part of the Team and I just love to hear her input on another side of things and seeing how her and Matt bounce off of each other comedically and in regards to business.

@FanTalks1 3 ай бұрын

I have been looking forward to this!! I know I can always trust Colin and Samir to make long podcast interviews that people genuinely want and care for. I love that Stephanie is here, she is so underappreciated, so much so that MatPat legit feels regret (he explained in the Anthony Padilla interview). I have been a fan of their work for almost 8 years. It's such an honor to be a fan.

@Slouchy_Burger1771 3 ай бұрын

Same!

@thelifewithnate 3 ай бұрын

Honestly, I didn't even know it was Stephanie and MatPat. I legit thought it was just him the entire couple of years I was watching their film channel. Although I dropped off after a while, I am glad both of them are getting recognized for their hard work.

@compequiet0584 3 ай бұрын

I don't know about others, but I appreciate and respect Steph as much as I do for MatPat, I'm not watching GTLive very much, but I have seen their interviews and stuff together and I see how much MatPat loves her, and then I think how hard should this be for her, a life with a husband fully invested in KZfaq and taking care of Ollie and supporting MatPat also involved in household chores...that woman reminds me of my mom, balancing so much sides while being a major player behind the curtains of Theorists channels; pillar of MatPat's success. About KZfaq shorts, for me, it's the time. There are longer videos I would love to see, but sometimes, I need to conserve time due to studies, so I'll watch like some amount of shorts, and get back to work. I don't prefer it over longer youtube videos, but, in that case, shorts do come handy. there are pros and cons to both.

@aqslayer146 3 ай бұрын

Truth is....we'll miss em!

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 3 ай бұрын

@Mewhaid 3 ай бұрын

@@MelonMemies I am water

@SeaWolfies 2 ай бұрын

Great content as always guys! Do anyone know some cool tricks or tools for growing your youtube channel in 2024?

@elouansimon 2 ай бұрын

vidiq and socialplus

@elouansimon 2 ай бұрын

one word: socialplus

@SeaWolfies 2 ай бұрын

@@elouansimon thx, vidiq and ahrefs are popular too but so expensive 🙄

@SeaWolfies 2 ай бұрын

@@elouansimonThanks will try that. What do you think about VidQI and ahrefs??

@thelifewithnate 3 ай бұрын

I remember watching MatPat when I was growing up when it came to a lot of their film theory videos! I fell off with the whole channel after I started developing other interests but I was surprised to hear they have multiple KZfaq channels. I cannot even imagine what stress that would begin to bring in someone's life with more than 1 KZfaq channel. But thank you for everything you have done MatPat and Stephanie. You may move on, but your legacy on the platform will always remain.

@yaknowjoshua1451 3 ай бұрын

That's crazy that you only ever found them with Film Theory! They originally made Game Theory in like 2010 and that channel is famous, then they made Film Theory and GT Live years later. Food Theory was made in 2020 during the pandemic and they just announced Style Theory last year

@CHEFPKR 3 ай бұрын

You just made my cardio session so much better!

@RyanSoltani 3 ай бұрын

A nice podcast to listen to

@komfieh 3 ай бұрын

the way matpat and steff look at each other is so sweet 😭

@ajhkdshkljhkjhfd3545 3 ай бұрын

This hit me so hard that the channel that I've followed since I was a kid is so meticulous with the way they've been releasing content. Like, a lot of these things should have been obvious, but they just weren't for me until this interview. The fact that MatPat and Stephanie have been spending 12 hours a day just working on shoots regularly? Their proposal to Lunar X? The fact that they have over 20 full time employees and over 20 freelancers working for them? It just seems so surreal but makes so much sense, maaaajor props.

@pxrmoto 3 ай бұрын

Now they are just collecting interviews of KZfaq legends. And knowing MatPat and Steph this is going to be filled with absolute gold, joy and hard truths. I’m looking forward to finishing this whole video.

@XxcelestialgirlxX 3 ай бұрын

I quite literally grew up on GameTheory, it has become everything to me. Seeing the "Goodbye Internet" video made time literally stop for me. I knew I was gonna be really sad but watching till the end I left with this bittersweet feeling. It was this whole "The only good parts of my childhood are being ripped out from under me" but also "I am so proud of them for doing what is best for them. For listening to their hearts and understanding what is best". It's always gonna be a bittersweet feeling when I partake in the new era of the Theory channels, it will never be the same. But knowing that MatPat and Steph will not only still be behind the scenes and will still be involved (I'm holding onto hope for cameos in FNAF videos lol) while also doing what's best for them and their family just makes my heart so full. As I get older and am now a part time college student, I find myself admiring them even more than i did prior (if that's even possible). They are so eloquent, elegant, playful, kind, and passionate and I'm finding them become who I wanna be. They just are such grounded and loving people and I can't fathom living my life without knowing them. I'm so blessed that i got to be here and experience the GameTheory with Mat and Steph. It reminds me a lot of Unus Annus. I was heartbroken that it ended (despite knowing it was coming). Everything ends and i know that, but when it happens it still hurts. But I'm so ecstatic that i git to experience this. Anyway, this is just to say, i love being a theorist. Thank you MatPat and Steph.

@TheJokekiller3686 3 ай бұрын

This was such an insightful interview, i feel a lot of people have this notion of youtube is easy or is instantly rewarding. To hear all of you acknowledge the struggles, late nights, and worries felt humanizing. Now this is my opinion but i feel everyone is always putting on a mask of success/hubris that almost disconnects you from that creator. It was genuinely awesome to hear a bit more of the behind the scenes. Best of luck to Steph and Matt!! Colin and Samar keep up the great interview process, i felt that you are able to get people to open up and have a genuine experience on your show, and it is wholesome to see/listen to.

@pedrostormrage 3 ай бұрын

1:59:42 "The opposite of happiness is interestingness" I couldn't find that study, but the philosopher Slavoj Žižek says something related ("Why be happy when you can be interesting?", arguing that we often don't truly want to obtain what we think we desire), and there's also the Greek concept of eudaimonia ("living well, achieving a fulfilling life"), which is an alternative to hedonism (focusing on pleasure and enjoyment). It's something really important to think about, since happiness can be fleeting and dependent on external circumstances (you can still be fulfilled in a more sustainable way, if you can find a meaning/purpose worth dedicating yourself to).

@FrijoLeZ 3 ай бұрын

Steph is INCREDIBLY smart.

@billyalarie929 2 ай бұрын

I seriously could listen to her forever. She’s an absolute FOUNT of wisdom.

@BTplayzFN 3 ай бұрын

It really is the end of an era. Can't believe one of KZfaq's ICONS is taking a step back, still. Thank you for 10+ years of theories, MatPat! And thanks Colin and Samir for bringing us this interview! :D

@SplitSniper7 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely love seeing Mat and Steph here and really appreciate hearing their perspectives of the space they're in.

@WagesofGear 3 ай бұрын

to be honest, watched many of these interviews, this has the most laughter of any of them. I am glad to see all of the smiles and enjoyment.. some interviews are serious and need to be in some regard. but seems to be a lot of joy here.

@RetroNerdGirl 3 ай бұрын

I am a small KZfaq channel doing this for 7 years and I swear if their story is relatable, encouraging, and a warning too. I learned so much just watching what they had to say. I am really looking forward to seeing what they do next because they are so talented that they are bound to shine at it too.

@jazzo.-. 3 ай бұрын

One of the few channels out there than can easily make a 2.5hr video feel like not enough

@NathanMcMasters 3 ай бұрын

Favorite episode so far, love their channels and it’s so great to see Stephanie shine here as Matpat has said before people have not credited her enough in the past. She’s so smart! Edit* I should not have laughed as hard as I did at the easy ease keeping the internet together joke as I did. Dear God I love this channel.

@purtnellus 2 ай бұрын

58:50 had ME sweating bullets when he said that first part…

@Chuckles224 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the EXACT same thing, then went to go look for comments

@billyalarie929 2 ай бұрын

O_____________________________O

@milenan7264 3 ай бұрын

This was such an amazing interview! I’ve learned so much about the space and it’s always great hearing Matpat and Steph talk, they’re so smart! Seeing how much they prepared to leave is incredible and I’m gonna miss them

@CanniestTread6 3 ай бұрын

I like how Steph was taking charge with the business back end of the talk kinda proving she is a valuable asset to them she does all this work that the average viewer won't really see. I think about another interview where mat pat had a choke on his voice when he mentioned that she often got overlooked cause I didn't really get it as a big dumb dumb but hearing this I'm like yeah she's awesome

@HisRoyalJaznness 3 ай бұрын

You guys are amazing! You interview all the huge internet personalities exactly when they need to be interviewed and ask all the right questions! Thank you!

@cenobittten 3 ай бұрын

This was such a fascinating interview. I have a lot of respect and admiration for Matt and Stephanie - they're both so knowledgable about youtube and content. They've built something incredible over the years - they're incredibly clever people. Thanks for such an in depth and unflinching interview.

@Theonetruesona 3 ай бұрын

I loved Steph’s happiness vs interesting topic. My social worker brain easily connected with it and loved how it gave a new perspective. Imma bring this up now to people

@ashleykelch8642 2 ай бұрын

I'm also a social worker and totally agree!

@project.protagonist 3 ай бұрын

Steph needs a podcast about this topic. The way she speaks is so easily understandable and pretty.

@CrystAAHHL 3 ай бұрын

Watching this makes me really want to see you guys grab those cameras again and just follow creators around in their workspaces to see what a day in the life of there business actually looks like. Similar to what you guys did with Mr. Beast where is was documentary style. I adored that video and with each of these podcasts, it keeps bringing me back to that same desire to want to physically see these workspaces that your guests talk about! Just food for thought and thanks again for the incredible content!

@monkeydance3894 3 ай бұрын

This was such a fascinating video, and really solidifies why I admire Mat and Steph. 10 years of watching them, and I can’t wait to see what they do in the future

@jricedrums 3 ай бұрын

I've been watching Game Theory since the 3rd episode in 2011, It's so wonderful to see how far he's come. Glad to see Colin and Samir got to interview them! It was a wonderful episode to watch!

@haimay5767 3 ай бұрын

How have i not found this channel earlier. Nice work!

@jimmytheaggie 3 ай бұрын

That intro was cut to perfection! Tip of the hat to the editor(s). Well done.

@ferrot6211 2 ай бұрын

Not even that far into the video and they are just exactly how every says, SOO FUCKING NICE AND CHILL. I just love seeing the good people they are. If mat ever wants to do another chaneel, he should do something more about him and his family. Also PatPat unlocked a deep memory in my brain XD Happy Retirement Matpat, thank you for all the good years

@sc9472 Ай бұрын

i think i’ll miss the livestreams the most - they were so fun, especially the huge charity ones ☺️

@Luner309 3 ай бұрын

“It’s not the end” Me: “The end” is not a real thing because the end is just a new beginning!

@croissant1949 2 ай бұрын

I’m so grateful for this 2 hour podcast where we’re getting such deep insight into Matt and Steph’s journey into creating the Theorist channels. It feels like the good old days of GTLive where they drop coins of wisdoms, and now we have all of it in this ONE VIDEO I absolutely loved their discussion about Happiness vs Interestingness

@funnibunni500 3 ай бұрын

Loved this episode! I've always had so much respect for both Mat and Steph and how they've built up the Theory channels over time, and have been wanting to get their insight and professional takes on the behind the scenes of KZfaq. Their production style, business pipelines and work ethic are fascinating to learn about and I love how articulate and digestible their explanations were. Mad respect for Steph in particular for carrying many of the business heavy foundations and initiatives that have truly made the Theorist channels and brand what it is today. And of course Mat who compliments those efforts and can creatively support the internal teams while being the voice and consumer-facing point person for the brand. Really going to miss this era of the Theorist brand but really looking forward to what the new creative directors have in store for the future of the channels and IPs!

@whiteakumanight 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to bring in two of the most influential people on the platform, it's tremendous responsibility to host people of that caliber, and I think you did an exceptional job. Thank you so much for the exceptional effort and caliber in which you represented yourselves and your guests.

@rockstarTraveler 3 ай бұрын

I did not expect to listen to the full 2+ hrs of this podcast but it was very interesting. Ive been watching MatPat since 2014 and am happy he is taking a step back to spend more quality time with family. I had a son 2 years ago and he really makes me appreciate life and value my free time so much more. At the end of the day, work is not as fulfilling as family.

@zenstatic2007 3 ай бұрын

I have always watched Colin and Samir, and I have watched MatPat for a long, LONG time. I am so glad this episode came out, thank you.

@suliertitan1532 3 ай бұрын

Again I’m amazed by your quality, even with your videos not being flashy or crazy and attention grabbing. You two do such honest work and it really pays off. Keep up the good work Colin and Samir, you’re doing great

@chanitovillasenor3222 Ай бұрын

It’s crazy to think that Steph has been like the biggest help backstage not even including every other person on the theorists team and watching this really helped me realized how I want to divide my time and prioritize everything especially like the work life integration will stick with me

@Riddz._. 3 ай бұрын

OMG, have waited for this one for sooo long

@obviouslyPSM 3 ай бұрын

oh yes! cant wait to listen to this whole thing! i had a feeling you guys would sit down with them.

@soirema 3 ай бұрын

Im here at like 1:30:00 and 2:00:00 and thank you Steph for all these awesome insides as someone who is getting into buisness it was INCREDIBLY interesting!! amazing interview!!

@janny25 2 ай бұрын

I love this, I started watching this cause I really admire Steph and Matt and wanted to listen to something on the background as I was doing stuff. But I finished around the 1.36hr and couldn't stopped it, I wanted to listen to everything. I really love seeing how much they know and how well spoken they are, I started watching Theory a year or so ago and still feel so proud of them, wishing them the best for the new chapter of their life!

@Ryan_ASMR 3 ай бұрын

These two are just the epitome of professionalism and it’s so amazing! They are so articulate, and funny at the same time. It’s so cool!

@bigtonka34 3 ай бұрын

I feel like Mat Pat is the Face, but Steph is truly the Brains. I don't think i've appreciated how amazing Steph is, but i'm really glad i had the time to watch this.

@IzzacJ 3 ай бұрын

Very good interview with 2 people I have followed for many many years. It is sad to not see them regularly, but am extremely excited to see what good they will bring!

@cumber3631 3 ай бұрын

steph's got a sick jacket

@quintencabo 3 ай бұрын

Woah you can only have ultimate respect for those two

@nasonvillanueva4542 3 ай бұрын

Damn, didn’t realize how much you guys blew up. Been watching since late 2020

@sams797 3 ай бұрын

I've been curious about the backend of digital media, and content creation for a long time, and listening to y'all talk about it really made me want to pursue something seriously. So thank you!

@bexyPTX 2 ай бұрын

I really appreciate that they could do such an in-depth interview. My appreciation for what MatPat and Steph do is so much deeper. They really were big pioneers on the platform. I hope that they find retirement and their future endeavors to be fulfilling.

@Omnicharlizard 3 ай бұрын

To the idea of a MatPat ai voice idea. It would work for some but not everyone. I began watching Game Theory when the channel first launched until today, and it was around when other writers were brought on board. That I noticed I wasn’t watching every video when it was released like I had. MatPat had his own unique way of writing the videos, that when other people did it, there was minute details that I picked up on and lost the same interest I used to have. If that makes sense to anyone 😅🤷‍♂️

@StillJustAJ 3 ай бұрын

Man this is actually the best podcast I’ve ever listened to, the way Steph and Mat talk about the history of this channel and the nonstop grind finally coming to a halt where I can understand WAY MORE the way growth in a channel can heavily affect the seemingly invisible end goal. It’s inspiring and man I’m so proud of how far the channels have come over the decade I’ve been watching the theorists. This is just amazing. Thank you Colin, Samir, Mat and Steph for this wonderful podcast

@meskliniteFM 3 ай бұрын

You know, I just really enjoy every interview you guys do.

@missitheachievementhuntres560 3 ай бұрын

This was such a great episode. and i agree, i wish youtube shorts was a different website.. as I don't like them, i hate that they auto repeat... I'm here for the longer videos but still get spammed with shorts (and okay watching 1 specific short content creator)

@JamesSato 3 ай бұрын

I love how this interview was a master lesson by Stephanie. Like MatPat always says, Stephanie is the secret sauce of the channel!

@lowkey276 3 ай бұрын

They are the best to conduct this interview 😊

@DashFlashTheLife Ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, watching this full thing was super insightful. Before this, I hadn't fully realized how insane these two have been going for almost as long as I've been alive. Genuinely some incredibly impressive stuff, we should all try to be as hardworking and conscious as they are!

@nateb7780 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing this conversation to the internet. MatPat has been such a pioneer in the creator community, he "got it" way before so many other creators did. His KZfaq theories on film theory pioneered the very genre I now come to Colin and Samir for. Regardless of views, to me this video is as valuable as the Mr. Beast video. Thanks guys.

@DelilaRodriguez 3 ай бұрын

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@deadlymelody27 3 ай бұрын

The happiness - interestingness scale is honestly so right for me. I started a job where i was learning so much and it interested me so much, i really enjoyed it but it came with a lot of extra stress and took a lot of my time. And as a parent i felt like i was missing out crucial time with my daughter. So my partner went back to work full time and i quit my job. Now my life is more boring, we go to stay and plays, we chill at home, we go to the park, we look at bugs and birds and leaves. Its so simple and sometimes i miss the mental stimulation from my job, but im far far happier. I had never considered the happiness to interesting scale but i feel like thats honestly so perfect and will remind me when i crave a more interesting life, to actually think do i want to be happy or do i want my life to be interesting. I feel like keeping a good balance works.

@coachleif 2 ай бұрын

So much great information in here. Really gives a complete view of their process and dedication to perfecting their craft. Also love to hear that MatPat is learning to ice skate!! Been coaching skaters for over 20 years now, you are in for quite an experience! Hopefully there will be a progress video for fun. Bend those Knees!!!