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The REAL Reason Sakumo Hatake Was NOT Reincarnated...

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@younggodofanime7115
@younggodofanime7115 2 жыл бұрын
I like how it goes from A dog sitting on the beds behind him to nobody there to someone sitting on the bed behind him while he’s talking this whole time
@Nara.Shikamaru
@Nara.Shikamaru Жыл бұрын
It happened in the last one I watched. Neutron was trying to get some cuddles from Dorothy and he was ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE.
@loganturnermedia
@loganturnermedia Жыл бұрын
This just made me realize that they totally wrote it to where they totally avoided main lovable characters from facing loved ones who could make them conflicted. There was no Might Duy, Sakumo, Jiraiya, Fugaku.. It could be argued that ALL of these people were left dead because they didn’t wanna write the emotional torment people like Kakashi, Might Guy, Naruto, and Sauske would have to go through.
@thegreatfusili4673
@thegreatfusili4673 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can argue that for Might Duy. He was a laughing stock that history just wouldn’t remember lmao.
@silentlytriggered9001
@silentlytriggered9001 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatfusili4673 not really he killed 4 of the 7 swordsmen before he died, which is a great feat to remember
@crunchybacan8932
@crunchybacan8932 Жыл бұрын
@@silentlytriggered9001 plus after being reincarnated couldn't Duy use 8 gates formation without any repercussions I'm sure he would be unable to move for a while but if there were other edo tensei there to protect him he could just use the 8th gate over and over again.
@silentlytriggered9001
@silentlytriggered9001 Жыл бұрын
@@crunchybacan8932 maybe kabuto or orochimaru never got their hands on his dna because he was literally burn to ashes due to 8 gates
@jordanhatt6824
@jordanhatt6824 Жыл бұрын
Honestly jiraiya and fugaku I believe had to be that reason as those would be intense
@fmrc93
@fmrc93 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it may have been due to the same way Sasori was able to dispel the Edo tensei. Since Kakashi had forgiven him he had no regrets or any attachments to the world and thus could shake it off. Every other ninja brought back had some kind of regret or sentiment that would anchor them whether it be regret, worry or revenge.
@Thatguy-mu5mn
@Thatguy-mu5mn 2 жыл бұрын
Yea and if you are strong enough or know the hand seals to edo tensei you can regain control over your body and if sakumo just did that, most of the bad guys would be defeated easily
@ZackMC937
@ZackMC937 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@anne-charlottedeh9558
@anne-charlottedeh9558 2 жыл бұрын
Sakumo Hatake is the hidden son of Nidaime Tobirama !
@10RexTheWolf01
@10RexTheWolf01 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how they never dwelled on that cause I even said this too in other vids
@blazeking6160
@blazeking6160 2 жыл бұрын
He was not reincarnated because of lakh of dna and him not being in purelands beacuse he does not have a pure heart
@Leo-fw2pq
@Leo-fw2pq 2 жыл бұрын
I actually hoped for Sakumo. It would have been quite the something for Kakashi to face his father. It would have been great to see just how strong he was and if Kakashi has surpassed him.
@IISPIFFYII
@IISPIFFYII 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt he would have, without the kamui kakashi is still one of the best ninjas to use lightning release but Tsunade was one of the three Sannin and arguably stronger than Kakashi and Sakumo was regarded as stronger than the Sannin.
@stopmotionpro233
@stopmotionpro233 2 жыл бұрын
@@IISPIFFYII stronger than the sanin but taking a charachter from naruto you have to specifie wich version the sakumo was stronger that the sanin before the original naruto we dont know how he would compare in shipudin but i doubt if he could even take 2
@The__Deadman
@The__Deadman 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopmotionpro233 Yeah, there are no feats. Imo Shippuden sannin could solo him individually.
@fciz2023
@fciz2023 2 жыл бұрын
Me too but I think it would’ve been too awkward especially after saying good bye to kakashi when kakashi had died from nagato
@gush8136
@gush8136 2 жыл бұрын
@@IISPIFFYII boruto kakashi would blitz prime tsunade w purple lightning low diff
@TheDopestOfShit
@TheDopestOfShit 2 жыл бұрын
What if Kabuto attempted to bring him back while in limbo, failed, and thusly assumed it was impossible. Then after Sakumo transitioned to the pure lands, Kabuto never attempted again.
@d1gitalbandit158
@d1gitalbandit158 2 жыл бұрын
Nah cuz Kabuto didn't know the jutsu at the time
@TheDopestOfShit
@TheDopestOfShit 2 жыл бұрын
@@d1gitalbandit158 Then we could substitute Orochimaru attempting and Kabuto witnessing the failure, thus informing him that Sakumo was unavailable for Edo Tensei.
@InsolentCrow
@InsolentCrow 2 жыл бұрын
The other character I wonder about not being reincarnated is Kushina. Her soul wasn't in the reaper like Minato's was and I don't think her body was destroyed or hidden anywhere special so why wouldn't she have been brought back?
@kozzie6356
@kozzie6356 2 жыл бұрын
Because she wasnt exactly a special shinobi, the only uses I could think of is her adamantine chains and maybe her knowledge in seals from the village hidden in the eddy's but she taught everything she knew to minato
@prowiserpuffling9568
@prowiserpuffling9568 2 жыл бұрын
She's a high level jonin that had kurama and alot of experience also a uzumaki with high chakra
@Soren27
@Soren27 2 жыл бұрын
@@kozzie6356 all usamakis are special, the red hot habenero would have been an incredible target for kabuto, especially to fuck with naruto. Kishimoto just didn't know how to write that shit, just like with jiraya.
@CrazyturtleMonkey
@CrazyturtleMonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Most Uzumaki weren't brought bak cuz they could prolly break the seal. Like hashirama could. He learned how from the Uzumaki
@meditationandrelaxation3511
@meditationandrelaxation3511 2 жыл бұрын
Kabuto had already started bringing back some ninja around the time she appeared when Naruto was trying to control the 9 tails so maybe it want an option because she was still in the seal
@myname5420
@myname5420 2 жыл бұрын
Sakumo waited for Kakashi I believe. Much how all Kakashi had was his father, all Sakumo had was his son as well at the time of his death. It makes sense to me that he wants to see basically how things turned out in Kakashis' life, did he die properly or make an arguably poor decision like he himself did, questions a father would have for his child. Sakumo died in turbulance, his mind clouded with so much being thrown against him and leaving behind a son with a very uncertain future, it makes sense that he couldn't or wouldn't pass on and instead chose to stay in limbo, contemplating the life he lived and being there for Kakashi when his time arrived. OR OR OR since it was a straight up selfishish sui he simply didn't get to move on until he made right on it and by having that long moment with Kakashi he did that.
@MatDegoat7947
@MatDegoat7947 2 жыл бұрын
Underated comment
@horacio2562
@horacio2562 2 жыл бұрын
So he won't move on basically until kakashi also dies and tells him in limbo like during pain?
@mlatricem
@mlatricem 2 жыл бұрын
That had to take a lot of thought
@RubyAPBT
@RubyAPBT Жыл бұрын
I have the same idea. He was just waiting for Kakashi, because he was sorry about how he left him.
@That_Son_Ofa_Itch
@That_Son_Ofa_Itch 2 жыл бұрын
Your words of suicide are beyond true. I lost my father to shot gun suicide when I was 5. I didn’t know what happened or even process his death till literal years later. I didn’t even understand the concept of what death was when he did his act. And now as a grown man, I can beyond say that his actions have shaped the person I am and will be… Both good and bad. I over love and attach to others. Yet have such bad trust issues and often push others away when I actually want the opposite. I go into fits of depression and rage for no reason and have problems processing raw emotions. Not because I’m not mature but because I’m to invested into every situation that those emotions are presented from. And I don’t think I could ever have kids myself because I’m beyond scared I’ll end up killing myself also someday in a manic depression and I don’t want to perpetuate the cycle of sadness onward.. /: if you need help please get it people. Even if it’s just venting to someone. Please don’t ever feel like suicide is the answer.
@SuperBlueGamer9000
@SuperBlueGamer9000 Жыл бұрын
I want to give you a hug
@Depsilon69
@Depsilon69 Жыл бұрын
I agree. its not the answer. however, it is also not selfish.
@kazuma11791
@kazuma11791 Жыл бұрын
don't let this stop you if you want children. they can be tough to raise right but they are the brightest thing in your life and can change you for the better. I can't say to much about your condition since all I have to go off is this comment but children are wonderful despite the headaches they can bring lol. I have 2 children and despite any challenges that come with having them I have never once wished they never happened I wish you the best and I pray you'll one day find the peace and tranquility use deserve
@soufiansfn7265
@soufiansfn7265 Жыл бұрын
The sadness and confusion you felt or you're still feeling because of what your father did, is exactly why suicide is forbidden in almost every religion. I wish you happiness and always remember you're not your father may peace be on his soul. You deserve to be happy and live a good healthy life.
@djaytv1621
@djaytv1621 10 ай бұрын
My condolences, I’m so so sorry for you man. You’re so much stronger then me. Please stay here for you’re entire natural life, so many really love you. Therapy is such a lifesaver for me personally just a tidbit
@biggameboy
@biggameboy 2 жыл бұрын
I think your theory may be close, but even if you assume that Sakumo was able to ascend to the pure land after he and Kakashi had their talk, we don't know when Kabuto was going around collecting bodies to use reincarnation. If he had tried before Pain attacked the village, then Sakumo's soul would have been in Limbo as you mentioned, and we don't know for sure if you can reanimate again if your first time trying to bind the soul fails.
@pegasBaO23
@pegasBaO23 2 жыл бұрын
You can try the summoning multiple times, Orochimaru did twice with Minato 1 unsuccessful and one successful
@MGunmehdi
@MGunmehdi 2 жыл бұрын
or simply Kabuto didn't know that Kakashi and Sakumo had the talk, from his point of view, Sakumo failed to reincarnate for some reason, and he assumed the reason was permanent, and so he didn't try again (after Pain).
@Xyro--
@Xyro-- 2 жыл бұрын
@@pegasBaO23 Is it ever confirmed its Minato? I believe the coffin just had the number 4 on it, Could've easily been Rasa.
@haxkztasy
@haxkztasy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xyro-- but wouldnt it make more sense to bring back Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato at the same time against Hiruzen? - cause Hiruzen knew all 3. - dont think Rasa makes much sense in that circumstance. and Minato wasn't able to be summoned cause of him being captured by the Reaper. which would explain why Orochimaru failed to bring Minato (the 4th) back.
@nonameabsolute9821
@nonameabsolute9821 2 жыл бұрын
@@haxkztasy I always looked at it as "with the information currently available and what we know about the status of 'Hokage' what better group of people to kill the current Hokage than the previous ones", but the reason for that is i first saw that episode when i was like 8 (I'm now 22) so that's all my tiny brain could come up with because i had only limited info, and never pieced together that it could've very well have been because they all had a deep and personal connection to Hiruzen. your explanation makes way more sense, I just never thought of it this way.
@tynanpreece5539
@tynanpreece5539 2 жыл бұрын
I love that this man’s following is growing! He’s my favorite Naruto KZfaqr!
@thenakedninja6145
@thenakedninja6145 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯. Dude literally came out of nowhere making bad ass informative vids like a mofo
@karaannnn__
@karaannnn__ 2 жыл бұрын
Why wasn’t might dai reincarnated? He took out 4 out of the 7 swordsmen of the mist or 6 out of 7 in manga . He would be really useful in the war and it prolly would be a better reason for Gai to use 8 gate as he saw dai being disrespected by being reincarnated and had to fight against the village he died for
@BrunoSa_
@BrunoSa_ 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, imagine someone as Edo Tensei with 8 gates. That would be too OP
@user-a_ce.1238
@user-a_ce.1238 2 жыл бұрын
Because his body turned into dust after using 8 gates so there is no DNA left
@Omareezy
@Omareezy 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t known to many people that some random 40 year old genin killed members of the 7 ninja swordsman. He did this as a last stand with nobody around to witness the fight besides the members who lived. Also there would be no way to get hold of his DNA because, after using the 8 gates might guy started disintegrating from the toes and feet up. This is probably most likely was happened to Dai, making it impossible to get his DNA.
@Goatkuna236
@Goatkuna236 2 жыл бұрын
Dude would just spam 8 gates as he would be Edo.Dai would be hella OP
@opinanlosjovenesrd3477
@opinanlosjovenesrd3477 2 жыл бұрын
@@NotYourFrontDoorNeighbour Nah, I think only his son and a few others actually knew about this fact. He was a Genin and probably Kabuto order his priorities from ranks and legends he did not have time to look for random Genins unless they had a special ability.
@fallbackactor235
@fallbackactor235 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like another explanation would be that kabuto tried to revive Sakumo before the events of the pain arc and failed so he didn't try to revive him again.
@four1ne
@four1ne Жыл бұрын
The white fang literally says “thank you for forgiving me now I can move on in peace and finally be w your mother” the reason he remained in limbo is simple he still had attachment to the mortal world bc Kakashi held a grudge against him after he took his own life.
@asvestor5932
@asvestor5932 2 жыл бұрын
What if Sakumo’s tombstone is just there as a memento and the body isn’t actually there. What if after his suicide due to him abandoning a mission he was refused the burial in the hero cemetary and instead got cremated and his ashes were spread as he was unworthy (in the eyes of thr village at the time) of being buried with ninja’s who perished accomplishing their missions? Maybe the stone is there cause Kakashi asked for it to be set there, while he was in the Anbu, as a postume honorification of his father since he understood his father’s beliefs about friends, wich he grew to share as he became older. Maybe at that point the village was more inclined to let Kakashi have some memorabilia of his dad being a tombstone in the cemetary where he could go and « talk » to him. Maybe I’m wrong and it’s just his soul in limbo but maybe his DNA is just spread in the wind.
@killakame-3434
@killakame-3434 2 жыл бұрын
Very Plausible
@YaiPhaba-ef9rj
@YaiPhaba-ef9rj 2 жыл бұрын
Too stretched
@eltonndimande5244
@eltonndimande5244 2 жыл бұрын
I have my theory to add to this... I think Kabuto knew something about Sakumo Hatake special abilities that could disrupt his plans for the war if he tried to summon him (Kind of like what Itachi did) And for some reason I still feel like Kabuto could be a long lost Hatake himself, he has the similar Chakra control with his hands like Kakashi.
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 Жыл бұрын
There's a few people who can undo the jitsu and either move on to the next world or attack the user of the jitsu. Itachi being one of those people proved how detrimental that could be to the jitsu. If Sakumo broke out unlike Itachi he wouldn't have hesitated to kill Kabuto the very second he was given a chance to
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Жыл бұрын
Kabuto being a Hatake clan member works. He has a somewhat similar appearance to Kakashi and sakumo with the white hair and relatively middle of the road build, is exceptionally talented even at a young age, has excellent Chakra control (admittedly, we don't really know if this is a hatake thing, but it kinda sounds like the white light blade and how chidori works). If true, he'd probably be a distant relative but it makes sense.
@seand7042
@seand7042 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Nagato's should count as killing himself he essentially just used a jutsu that took his Chakra to absolute zero by that logic granny chiyo killed herself too and probably 1000 other unnamed Shinobi trying to carry out missions
@alfonsuskristo1624
@alfonsuskristo1624 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the Rinne Rebirth requirement was retconned into trading your own life to bring back others.
@lucario2able
@lucario2able 2 жыл бұрын
Granny chiyos jutsu does use your Chakra completely to revive another person... she says it she was low on Chakra and so she used someone else's. It's literally in the title of the jutsu.
@ray985
@ray985 2 жыл бұрын
He tried to reincarnate before Pain attack the village. And he wasn't able due to this state of limbo and chalk it up as unsuccessful and moved on
@loliH9
@loliH9 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who wants to some day, maybe, hopefully, be a writer I believe the stronger reasons for not bringing Sakumo back were that everything the story could've done with him had already been done, same reason imo for why Jiraiya didn't come back during the fourth war and why Kashin Koji was so rejected, and that his skillset would've been really hard to make as impressive as his legend was. Had I been in Kishimoto's place I wouldn't have brought him back either. Also, why is cremation not more common in the Ninja World? You'd think everyone would be cremating their most dangerous ninja just in case Konoha, or someone else with access to the Edo Tensei, were to bring them back to life. I mean, I know that it is so Edo Tensei doesn't become actually impossible to pull off but it's odd that people that fought Tobirama at any point in history wouldn't just assume Edo Tensei was a jutsu that Konoha would pull off when threatened enough and that the whole forbidden jutsu classification was just Konoha propaganda.
@pinkdoe1725
@pinkdoe1725 2 жыл бұрын
How old are you?
@loliH9
@loliH9 2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkdoe1725 Embarrassingly old.
@PiggTheKidd
@PiggTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I'm not some writing genius but it's a huge missed opportunity to not put in many dead legendary ninja who are very popular despite barely being talked about, like shisui is one of the most popular characters in Naruto and he has basically 0 screentime
@PiggTheKidd
@PiggTheKidd 2 жыл бұрын
Like who da hell was asking for the 2nd mizukage bro I'm tryna see shisui and itachi fight together and fuck shit up 3000
@loliH9
@loliH9 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiggTheKidd Me neither but you have to understand that stories that are serialized like Naruto have to be streamlined. It would've been cool to see Shisui and other legendary ninja fighting in the war and there weren't many logical ways for not bringing them into the war without just lazily shoving the idea aside like they did with Jiraiya, but as far as the story was concerned it would've just been clutter. Hell, the ones we actually got felt unnecessary like Pakura and Tenten's uncle because they weren't real characters, and the others that were real characters like Deidara or Zabuza had so little juice left that you could see the narrative struggling to give them a place in the story. Zabuza is actually a good case imo for why it wouldn't be a good idea to bring Sakumo back. Everything that could've been done thematically and character-wise with Sakumo was done with Zabuza and the readers/audience had a previous connection to him and Haku. The emotional warfare done through Edo Tensei, angering Kakashi, forcing him to watch a ninja he respects be degraded; all covered in his fight with Edo Zabuza. At best, a Kakashi vs Edo Sakumo fight would've shown a more intense reaction from Kakashi but we would've lacked all the context and baggage his fight with Edo Zabuza had since we never saw a living Sakumo react to things like we did with Zabuza. For Zabuza we had an entire arc where he was the main antagonist and we saw him go through pretty much every possible emotion he could've gone through; for Sakumo we only had that he was Kakashi's dad, he was a honorable man, and he took his own life but we never saw any of it. Volume after volume of fights with legendary ninja sounds cool but I bet you'd regret it had it actually happened.
@ssjgold
@ssjgold Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Kabuto tried to revive Sakumo before the Pain invasion, when that failed (because his spirit was in limbo), he figures something was wrong, and so didn't try again. So Sakumo could have been revived, but Kabuto didn't bother because it didn't work the first time, and Orochimaru didn't have his body (as Kabuto had it).
@GTfromAG
@GTfromAG 2 жыл бұрын
Bruhh....lol. Your story telling is so great, that I didn't notice someone laying down in the back till 11:46 into the video😎💪🏾🤣🤣🤣
@ironhidefire
@ironhidefire 2 жыл бұрын
My theory? With Sakumo being stronger than the 3, he could have been a major factor with the Kage against Madara (everyone can disagree all they want). Meaning, he may have been smart enough to break Kabuto’s control, even weaving the signs to continue the reanimation after Itachi broke it, because you said it yourself, he was filled with regret leaving Kakashi, I doubt he’d let someone pit him against his son, and like Minato, I think he’d want stick around to help. Kishimoto could have purposely excluded him because of this.
@angelalvarez-mg7du
@angelalvarez-mg7du 2 жыл бұрын
Nah itachi used a genjutsu he had placed a long time ago, it was meant for Sasuke but served the same purpose for itachi to protect the leaf. You can't control your body when controlled by edo so you couldn't weave signs as that woulda ended the war from the beginning.
@divinessgaming
@divinessgaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelalvarez-mg7du madara did it case closed my boy speaking facts kishimoto knew what he was doin
@charlescooks9360
@charlescooks9360 Жыл бұрын
@@divinessgaming kabuto wasn't actively controlling madara. thats the difference
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Жыл бұрын
​@Charles Cooks seems weird to not actively control what's definitely the strongest character you can but yeah that happened. I do like the idea that kabuto tried before the pain attack and Kakashi reconciliation but it failed and kabuto, not knowing why, just gave up on sakumo
@andrewriley5460
@andrewriley5460 2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought and I guess a question? (I’m currently rewatching Shippuden and I am just passed the Pain fight, but naruto is still talking to nagato). During the fight with pain when Konoha is completely destroyed, would this have not destroyed all of the graves in that cemetery and thus preventing Sakumo from being brought back with Edo Tensai? I can’t remember if anyone else in the cemetery is brought back during the war arc or if there is explanation for this, just something I remember.
@EliteJroc309
@EliteJroc309 2 жыл бұрын
I think the cemetery isn’t located inside the village much like the memorial stone for the 3rd great ninja war we saw during the first bell test. So it would make sense that the cemetery wouldn’t be inside the village walls but close by in a field
@Troll_vs.
@Troll_vs. 2 жыл бұрын
Not really I guess because you just need to have the DNA and not the body
@AncientChi
@AncientChi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Troll_vs. if the cemetery is blown to shreds there's no way to know which DNA is which
@Flipindabird23
@Flipindabird23 2 жыл бұрын
Wow; I love how you dissect characters. You could easily chalk these details surrounding the white fang up to bad writing, but you don’t take that as an answer. This was super insightful🤙🏼
@scoots6700
@scoots6700 2 жыл бұрын
You see I feel like kishimoto prolly didn’t put that much thought into it all but if he did it’d be great. No matter what though you have amazing analytical skills and the way and the way you were able to put this idea into form and making it highly plausible is really insane. Props 👏👏
@johnheitmuller5386
@johnheitmuller5386 2 жыл бұрын
Hiruzen, Minato, and Nagato all gave their lives for others, or so others could live. Sakumo ended his life for shame. I suppose you could argue he gave his life for Kakashi, but I think that might be the difference here. Sacrifice vs suicide.
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 2 жыл бұрын
His death did not at all was a sacrifice or an argument
@mkim14388
@mkim14388 2 жыл бұрын
So if Sakumo Hatake is in Limbo, can he attack or defend against Madara's Limbo clones.
@vicentegarcia6400
@vicentegarcia6400 2 жыл бұрын
A really interesting theory 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Sifu-Myers
@Sifu-Myers 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like no. I think there either completely different things or if they are the same "limbo" then it would still be separate in some sense. Atleast from what's said Sakumo being in limbo is the in-between of earth and heaven. Where for Madaras limbo clones well there clones so they wouldn't necessarily be in that "dimension" it would be a just different concept. But it would be interesting to have them explored more
@andrewhyman3992
@andrewhyman3992 Жыл бұрын
Scared the shot outta me when I realized there was a full human being on the floor
@cheems0508
@cheems0508 2 жыл бұрын
got my mind fucked up when i saw the dog at the beginning of the video then noticed that there was a lady just suddenly lying there.
@edwardlujan1325
@edwardlujan1325 Жыл бұрын
What if Sakumo didn't actually die and put himself In a genjustsu that mimic him being dead resulting him being in limbo cryogenic type of state and simply could undo it ofcourse just a fun theory
@unkownlunchbox8819
@unkownlunchbox8819 2 жыл бұрын
The writer didn’t want to is always an option. The writer is forgetful as well. So could also be options
@cyspiegel8603
@cyspiegel8603 Жыл бұрын
I freaked out when the dog turned into a girl on the bed, until my mind said that's not logical 😂😂
@mveal90
@mveal90 Жыл бұрын
It would have gud to see. But you’ll have to add one hell of a back story and what leads up to him being the white fang. He’s to great of a 🥷 for just 3 episodes
@alizakhan1238
@alizakhan1238 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we had seen some sort of action from sakumo it would have been amazing the sannin are no joke so he must be very strong
@theflannelman4717
@theflannelman4717 2 жыл бұрын
what if sakumo was cremated and the grave is just sorta symbolic
@sedrykleftwich2185
@sedrykleftwich2185 2 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how nicks girl just vibing in the background during this video with his dog? Lol that’s great
@banks3388
@banks3388 Жыл бұрын
Sakumo Hatake wasn't in heaven... I just answered a 14 minute video in five words
@raynegruber5368
@raynegruber5368 2 жыл бұрын
So... As much as I love this video, the whole "Suicide is selfish" statement is too much. While I get how you feel, truly, it seems a bit unnecessarily harsh.
@zlptkon
@zlptkon 2 жыл бұрын
i feel suicide is very selfish, I believe nobody wants to live but do live so that they can keep the ones they love happy
@acybanks616
@acybanks616 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlptkon so we are only meant to live, just to literally Please others?
@tiky2675
@tiky2675 2 жыл бұрын
We need Jesus, honestly. Or if you don't believe in Jesus.... Life is about spreading love and being the best person you can be both for yourself and others around you, but the world isn't fair and unfortunately the hate in this world drives some people to the point they can't see a way out or a road to happiness.
@raynegruber5368
@raynegruber5368 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlptkon I get that suicide hurts friends and family, but that attitude towards it makes it seem like you are being selfish? That you don't care about their pain, just yours or their families.
@danielrobertson4254
@danielrobertson4254 2 жыл бұрын
It took them time to collect and reanimate all the ninjas that were brought back and more than likely the first time the tried to bring him back(more than likely before the pain arc) he was still in limbo. So it might not be they did not try, it could be thy tried once and realized it did not work and never tried again.
@TheNME9
@TheNME9 Жыл бұрын
No No No, Sakumo kept himself there, with his own power, to finally get to see Kakashi and explain himself and unburden himself, after that, i think he was freed. He might have just willed himself of the beaten path to wait. Just like you said, i think the those realms are hidden and also separate, the limbo and the heavens, Also, ever considered if anyone can pull from a Hell realm?Hell Nin!
@juicebox1732
@juicebox1732 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way your dog goes and lays down behind your chair. Little doggo😊
@dirtydiesel1149
@dirtydiesel1149 2 жыл бұрын
In an alternate reality: Why Sakumo Shouldn't Have Been Reanimated
@CosmicDuskWolf
@CosmicDuskWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Wait. If the Reaper death seal makes a ninja go to limbo, how did the 4th get reincarnated?
@vadway
@vadway Жыл бұрын
Only sealed person is stuck in limbo, not the user
@DrQuickScoping1
@DrQuickScoping1 Жыл бұрын
Orochimaru put the reaper mask on and cut his stomach open releasing all the previous hokage
@JanaSzIsBasicGlitch
@JanaSzIsBasicGlitch 2 жыл бұрын
Garras dad come back to life, just to deliver to Gara this memorable line +- " YOU HAVE FRIENDS?!" :D :D :D
@theprestige5472
@theprestige5472 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I just realize there is actually a person layed down in the bed and my guy is spittin' Naruto lore🤣
@josephlugo6770
@josephlugo6770 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, there's a flaw here. Deidara killed himself trying to kill sasuke. By no means should deidara or even sasori to be reanimated. Yet they still were. They wouldn't go to heaven, so there must be another reason sakumo was not reanimated
@kodaalii2434
@kodaalii2434 2 жыл бұрын
Deidaras nindo was destruction being art, even when he died, he didnt let go of his way.
@ZzIAmNOTLegendzZ
@ZzIAmNOTLegendzZ Жыл бұрын
He didn't die like a bitch
@FlyingTacoMobile
@FlyingTacoMobile 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Sakumo fought Minato for the Hokage spot AND fought 10,000 shinobi at the same time!! Thanks for the info NC!
@ramonsanchez4751
@ramonsanchez4751 2 жыл бұрын
None of that is true
@ramonsanchez4751
@ramonsanchez4751 2 жыл бұрын
Sakumo never fought Minato and he certainly did not fight 10,000 ninjas
@KingDues
@KingDues 2 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense fr . Great video bro 💪🏽💯
@chrisjpdx
@chrisjpdx 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see NC hammer uploaded while I’m at work, I take my lunch and click.
@KingofKilograms
@KingofKilograms 2 жыл бұрын
What if sakumo never committed suicide and he was assassinated, and who ever killed him made it look like a suicide. Idk just a thought
@janzkee
@janzkee 2 жыл бұрын
can be possible, weve seen ninja with teleportation techniques
@J4min77
@J4min77 2 жыл бұрын
What if, a member of the Nara clan tried to assassinate Sakumo using Shadow possession jutsu. In the midst of trying to resist the possession fell into the temptation to not fight back after all of the ridicule he had faced. We all know that Konoha Ninja's are often hired by other villages to accomplish a task in exchange for monetary rewards. What if the mission Sakumo had undertaken was high in monetary reward, which lines up with how dangerous it was seeing that multiple of his comrades were in the kind of danger that caused Sakumo to abandon the objective. If the client of that mission was another village, then there could have been diplomatic relations involved, for all we know there could have been a hostage held by the client which they were willing to hand over in exchange for the mission being completed. Maybe this hostage (ninja) was a spouse to a member of the Nara clan...
@drparadox7833
@drparadox7833 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@alizakhan1238
@alizakhan1238 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's could happen but the problem is there is a good gap between sakumo's death and his suicide
@januszparuzel8934
@januszparuzel8934 2 жыл бұрын
Why you stick to Nara clan? Was someone of them im Sakumo's team who he rescued?
@BrownHairL
@BrownHairL Жыл бұрын
That might be true in a very twisted, religious way. However, depression is a disease, and one that will likely forever haunt the afflicted person - most people can be treated, but to keep it at bay. Obviously, like many people in the war, Sakumo had PTSD, and suffered because he was kind.
@kaiden8588
@kaiden8588 2 жыл бұрын
This actly is a great reason for him to have not come back. For many warriors both irl and in stories dying an honorable death or a warriors death is how you get to eternal happiness weather its heaven, or valhalla or whatever, suicide isnt considered an honorable death unless the person is ordered to do it usually to restore their honor. Also it would make sense because another character shisui uchiha also took his own life and despite him having some of the strongest sharengan in the anime he wasnt reincarnated despite being talked about for a good chunk of shippuden so itd make sense that the reason neither were returned was because they died an unhonorable death and were dammed because of it.
@decimovongola5151
@decimovongola5151 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, we can't just call suicide being selfish because we really don't know what happened and what experiences Sakumo had to face. I mean, yeah, Kakashi and her mother can be a bit disappointed because of Sakumo's decision, but can we really blame the guy? You yourself have stated that the village drove him to this conclusion. Can we really call this guy a disappointment and a selfish guy? I disagree with the part that he didn't stick to his own Ninja way. Did you not think that everyone that would commit suicide didn't think of the loved ones that he/she would leave behind? Do you really think that he didn't give consideration to Kakashi? The village is at fault here. The village failed not just Sakumo but also Kakashi and her mother. This guy literally wanted to save his colleagues and was willing to sacrifice the mission for them, but all he got was hatred. Furthermore, I must suggest that when creating a theory or, in this case, a video on connecting the gaps left by the storyline, we consider many perspectives because this had the tone that it was made from Kakashi's perspective, but why don't we take it from both Kakashi's and Sakumo's perspective? Everyone has their own side of the story, and I think this video didn't really portray Sakumo's intention and perspective.
@jsua90
@jsua90 2 жыл бұрын
Sakumo didn't go to heaven but the sound ninja 4 did? Wheird. I never understood that.
@chrisjpdx
@chrisjpdx 2 жыл бұрын
Idk. The moral implications of Naruto are grey as hell. The leaf aren’t the only ‘good guys’ or ‘bad guys’. And not everyone who opposes the protagonist are inherently’bad’
@brolo4784
@brolo4784 2 жыл бұрын
And deidara lmao
@softicecream3322
@softicecream3322 2 жыл бұрын
@@brolo4784 Deidara didn’t do anything inherently wrong
@chrisjpdx
@chrisjpdx 2 жыл бұрын
@@softicecream3322 yeah it’s hard to call anyone in Naruto inherently bad or evil except for maybe Orochimaru. That dude is definitely going to hell. Even Madara was reanimated after dying once. Going to ninja heaven seems to be mostly predicated around how the person who’s dying perceived themselves and how they lived while they were on earth. The only people I could really see not going are people who died with major regrets or failed in key areas of their life ie, Jiraiya and Sakumo
@brolo4784
@brolo4784 2 жыл бұрын
@@softicecream3322 bro was a murderer/ bomber cx it’s like saying jiraya wasn’t bad for peeping because it’s what he loved
@GreyFang
@GreyFang 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos! Love how you connected it to real life.
@隠れた
@隠れた 2 жыл бұрын
What a chill life, get paid to talk about anime while your significant other lays on the ground petting the puppers, your blessed mate congrats on all your hard work
@alberthylmar5885
@alberthylmar5885 2 жыл бұрын
What about Sasuke's and Itachi's father? Why hasn't he been brought back?
@softicecream3322
@softicecream3322 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Kabuto didn’t know who he was and Obito just forgot about his body
@operationstarwars
@operationstarwars 2 жыл бұрын
@@softicecream3322 I don't think that makes sense because in the Itachi novel Fugaku is called "Wicked Eye" Fugaku and is said to have been as important in the war as Kakashi and Minato, So Kabuto should have known about him. Usually when shinobi are given special names like "Yellow Flash" or "White Fang" or "Sasori of Red Sand" or in Fugaku's case "Wicked Eye" they are very well known to be extremely powerful ninja.
@softicecream3322
@softicecream3322 2 жыл бұрын
@@operationstarwars yes Important but Danzo suppressed it as much as he could so he wouldn’t become Hokage
@operationstarwars
@operationstarwars 2 жыл бұрын
@@softicecream3322 I get that but he wasn't called "Wicked Eye" Fugaku by the leaf, I mean usually, it's other nations giving out nicknames like that, and there is no way Danzo suppressed his fame in other villages, and there would be no reason to try to do so.
@softicecream3322
@softicecream3322 2 жыл бұрын
@@operationstarwars eh I don’t know maybe Kishimoto just didn’t want that?
@turtle27171
@turtle27171 2 жыл бұрын
If dai was reincarnated could he use the eighth gate forever?
@ramonsanchez4751
@ramonsanchez4751 2 жыл бұрын
No he can't. Go acutally learn how the 8 gates work
@turtle27171
@turtle27171 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonsanchez4751 was just a question, no need to be rude about. Me asking this question is me actually trying to learn more about the gates.
@turiq10000
@turiq10000 2 жыл бұрын
Love how his dog said let me get in the video real quick lol
@timmylau9088
@timmylau9088 2 жыл бұрын
The dog showing off his manliness in the background LMAO
@nakazatelen141
@nakazatelen141 2 жыл бұрын
Just like you said, Kishimoto probably didn't know how to write the returns of Jiraiya and Sakumo. Or it could have been that he didn't have enough time or was just lazy. Still not seeing anything about Sakumo is a huge waste.. I mean given by his backstory, he was a big deal back in the day. So a filler episode of for example Kakashi's birth (also showing us his mother) or the failed mission which led to his depression would've been very much appreciated.
@Andresdiaz-fy9cw
@Andresdiaz-fy9cw 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but please tell me why the whole uchiha clan wasnt reanimated
@GreyFang
@GreyFang 2 жыл бұрын
Most of them were mid lol
@drparadox7833
@drparadox7833 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyFang yeah but seeing Fugaku's Mangekyo would have been rad
@tiky2675
@tiky2675 2 жыл бұрын
What if Kabuto said. "Itachi is the only other uchiha worth bringing back, since he basically soloed the entire clan" and then it bit him in the ass 🥲
@tgmtf5963
@tgmtf5963 Жыл бұрын
@@tiky2675 lol
@Xtrooper116
@Xtrooper116 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that they were too busy focusing on Kakashi resolving his issue with obito to try to write his dad into the equation
@Blade-2001
@Blade-2001 2 жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense based on kakashis reaction to finding his father during the most recent war, almost like he knew where he was going but also didnt
@odd-eyes6363
@odd-eyes6363 Жыл бұрын
He was waiting for Kakashi in purgatory to move on. He's going to pass on fully once his son's time arrives
@fredfredburger8764
@fredfredburger8764 2 жыл бұрын
Sir Nicholas of Hammerington III, Thank you for blessing us with another glorious video your grace.
@jonesnicholos
@jonesnicholos 2 жыл бұрын
sakumo is really responsible for naruto's ninja way just as much as obito. those who turn their back on their mission are scum, but thoughs who turn their backs on their comrades are worst then scum. sakumo lived this before it was taught through out konoha
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe other shinobi like most of the Akatsuki, previous swordsman of the mist ect were considered in the pure world to be reincarnated. Im certain most of them were not good dudes and didnt care about "their ninja way" other than merciless/selfish killing.
@amorbis4210
@amorbis4210 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have it backwards. IIRC, people from the pure land could not be reincarnated. Those kept in limbo due to unresolved grievances could. You saw people like Asuma be freed from edo tensei because their issues were resovled. Sakumo couldn't be reincarnated because he already met Kakashi during the pain arc and had his grievances addressed.
@aurthurpendragon1015
@aurthurpendragon1015 Жыл бұрын
i'd love a video on why Kushina wasn't revived during the war arc.
@saucemaster2
@saucemaster2 2 жыл бұрын
This is always what I assumed. I figured Sakumo was just waiting in purgatory for Kakashi so that way they could assend to the pure lands together.
@hagoromonxb
@hagoromonxb Жыл бұрын
-notices a body on the floor-
@FougosNoob
@FougosNoob 2 жыл бұрын
The dog just chilling in the background
@sylvertounge
@sylvertounge 2 жыл бұрын
What if edo tensi only works with the soul still having an earthly regret or tie still attached because if we look at how some of the souls negated the jutsu was by being settled and worries put to rest, they then slipped out of the vessels, Sasori passing his puppets along to the next generation, the legendary taijutsu master Chen knowing that Rock Lee became a brilliant ninja. If the soul didn't have any more when they died they couldn't be bound to a vessel in the first place. For instance if Jiraiya left everything to Naruto and kept nothing for his soul to linger on, there wouldn't be any kind of tie to bind him back to the mortal plain. Then we look at some of the souls that came back each of them had something that kept them bound to the mortal plain, Pakura she had issues with the nation that killed her and resented then for it. Itachi was worried for Sasuke and The Hidden Leaf, and so on
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero 2 жыл бұрын
See while i do get what youre saying about suicide in the context of the story and how it might be the reason for how things are for Kakashi’s father- i dont think talking about taking your own life as a whole like that is a very helpful or charitable way to do so
@jeambeam3173
@jeambeam3173 2 жыл бұрын
Mabye Black Zetsu helped find some of the bodies as he was around for all of ninja history and probably was in the background watching over a lot of the battlefields
@AugustRushGaming
@AugustRushGaming 2 жыл бұрын
From my memory it wasn't chakra over usage that killed Kakashi. but a final blow to the head by Pain that did? I vividly remembering him shooting out a nail and ending Kakashi that way lol I was DEVASTATED as a kid and stopped reading SJ for a few issues
@TheSoapBocks
@TheSoapBocks 2 жыл бұрын
Kakashi used Kamui 2x to send the nail and the missile chasing Choji to the other dimension, this completely exhausted his chakra and killed him.
@hawker6723
@hawker6723 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say thank you,it helps having something make sense to understand why he didn't get brought back, he was awesome and Kakashi is my favorite, even before I was a naruto fan when I was a kid I saw him and liked him
@ngolliday
@ngolliday Жыл бұрын
Considering how many times that konaha was destroyed and rebuilt, who that there are actually bodies in all those old graves. Maybe there was nothing left to reanimate.
@finessejutsu
@finessejutsu 2 жыл бұрын
i seen the title n just thought his dad wasn’t reincarnated bc he was js savage af when alive
@mizoto6550
@mizoto6550 2 жыл бұрын
“Tens of years” The word you are looking for is “decades”
@danielbrowning3715
@danielbrowning3715 2 жыл бұрын
So I get the whole "catholic aspect" (not sure on other religions) that suicide is a ticket to hell, but you can't tell me that a mass murderer like kakazu wouldn't be in hell too, not to mention quite a few others
@oussamadjeziri311
@oussamadjeziri311 Жыл бұрын
… damn, this requires abtrigger warning.. its so well written, and the video is very well made.. props
@strykerr7177
@strykerr7177 2 жыл бұрын
the dog chillin in the back Lol
@NikSoren
@NikSoren Жыл бұрын
That’s ridiculous. A bunch of characters killed themselves like Deidara and an even bigger bunch of characters were pieces of shit but neither of those things kept them from being resurrected. The real answer is that those characters would need to be addressed in ways Kishimoto didn’t want to waste time on.
@Logical42345
@Logical42345 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as though orichimaru already tried to bring sakumo back at some point and failed. There’s no way him and kabuki would know about him and kakashi’s conversation and him finally moving on from limbo so kabuto didn’t see him as an option for whatever reason he rationalized it as. Therefore… he didn’t even try
@Th3GaMb3r
@Th3GaMb3r 2 жыл бұрын
And also sakamo wasn’t available not because he was still stuck in limbo. Because his soul was able to move on. They explained how to undo the jutsu. Is either by sealing them or their soul moving on. Since sakamo had too much guilt about failing kakashi as his father he couldn’t move on. Until kakashi had that talk with him. and he forgave him. And his soul was at piece. Thats the reason why the jutsu couldn’t revive him. Period
@blackhand441
@blackhand441 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't enough for you to send Jiraiya to hell, you had to send kakashi father there too. Am warning you, any more innocent ninjas and am dropping my weights
@Ice-vm2rc
@Ice-vm2rc 2 жыл бұрын
The whole time kishi might have forgotten about sakumo
@yugialmorozo5919
@yugialmorozo5919 2 жыл бұрын
Well maybe he's just so weak that kabuto didnt even think of reviving that sheet
@KurosakiOni
@KurosakiOni 2 жыл бұрын
I like how there's a sleeping person behind him next to his anime action figures talking about Kakashis dead dad that's a 100/100 video
@876Trendy_lovee
@876Trendy_lovee 2 жыл бұрын
Was that a dog in your background???😂 Idk how I even saw that 🙏
@sampsonagada2729
@sampsonagada2729 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@RizzyRapz
@RizzyRapz Жыл бұрын
Honestly its so much Gold in the Naruto Lore. So much content can be made from it. I wouldnt be mad at a White Fang Mini-Series
@kjp2006
@kjp2006 2 жыл бұрын
awe, I love your ninja dog having a rest before their next mission
@jaythehulkmoeller6648
@jaythehulkmoeller6648 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your video, I must go on. So I too can enter the purelands, and stay true to my ninja way. I wouldn't mind being reincarnated with edo tensei. 😄
@NoBrakes219
@NoBrakes219 2 жыл бұрын
Love how far the channel setup has come, congrats brother!
@hilmalumay
@hilmalumay 2 жыл бұрын
And Hiruzen and Minato was only reanimated after they visited a Shrine with Sasuke and the gang. It was Orochimaru who did it and he did a ceremony to release the souls of all the reaper death seal hokage including Hashirama and Tobirama whose soul waa also reaper death seal by Hiruzen with the battle against Orochimaru at the chuunin exam. We already know why Kabuto can't reanimate them because of that.
@destinywilks2381
@destinywilks2381 2 жыл бұрын
Me just now noticing the girl in the background 😭 i cant talk in front of the camera with people around you’re brave
@EgirlMusume
@EgirlMusume 2 жыл бұрын
I love how your dog found a perfect spot in the camera view to lay down. So cute.
@EgirlMusume
@EgirlMusume 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I noticed your gf got down there too, how freaking cute
@noahbuendia9125
@noahbuendia9125 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else see a girl behind him, absolute chad for talking about naruto instead of doing the unholy stuff
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