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They are technically the same but they look different because 1. The withereds suits would not been able to be repaired because the amount of blood that stained the inside of the suit so they had to re design the suits. and 2. Some of their endo parts would have to have been replaced because of age and probably blood Reminence as well.

3:14 - 3:27 and THAT is what Philosophers call the Theseus' Ship Paradox. If you have a ship, but replace every piece on that ship with new pieces, is it the same ship when not a single original piece remains? And what if the old parts are used to make a new ship (Funtimes under MoltenMCI?), which one is truly the ship of theseus??

The more I hear this guy, the more I'm convinced I Know his voice...but from where ;)

in the game its actually stated that fazbear entertainment tried to repair the old animatronics but stopped mid way and just used the old animatronics for spare parts to make the toy animatronics..

I always thought that the reason they look different is because of what Afton did in the FNAF 3 minigames. See, I believe that Afton actually disasembled the animatronics before we play as Michael in FNAF 1. That way he can get the remnant from the endoskeletons he needs for the Funtimes in Sister Location. We can also tell that these are slightly older variations of the models since Freddy and Bonnie sport buttons on their design in the minigame when they don't have these buttons in FNAF 1 and we all know that Scott doesn't do coincidences. Of course, in doing this, he unknowingly frees the spirits of the children from their animatronic bodies and they take their revenge on Afton as he gets springlocked in his own suit. Now the kids are free from their animatronics bodies, but they don't actually have any peace or closure. So I don't think they actually leave the building. Instead, they stay in the building and they haunt that building. This could explain all of the 'halluciniations' we see in FNAF 1. It could be the ghosts trying to communicate with Mike, yes, but it could be even creepier if these things in the environment were ACTUALLY CHANGING thanks to the fact that the animatronic haunt the building. We see posters changing, writing on the walls, a circus organ playing and that easter egg in the backstage where the endoskeleton and all the heads turn to look at the camera could be explained as a hallucination OR those heads ACTUALLY MOVED because of the children now haunting the building. Of course, Fazbear Entertainment did have to put the animatronics back together again and this does explain why so many parts of the animatronic's endoskeleton is different since Afton would have taken a lot of their parts. Once the animatronics had basically almost been rebuilt from the ground up, the ghosts with nowhere else to go, haunt the animatronics again as that's really all they know. So they now haunt the characters AND the building. We can also see in the FNAF movie how they haunt the building as well as the characters as we see lights flickering to various characters' presence, doors closing and opening on their own, pots and pans being rattled around and heck the whole building literally comes crashing down thanks to their rage once they've springlocked Afton. So, in a way, they are still kind of the same robots. But they've literally had to be completely restored and improved thanks to what Afton did. That's partly why Freddy's would need a security guard even when the place is shut down since Fazbear Entertainment might think that what happened to the animatronics was because of some vandal that broke in to mess things up when we know it was actually Afton. It would also give another reason for Mike to go to the FNAF 1 location: to investigate Freddy's AND because it was his father's last known location.

UCN confirms Fredbear has the FNAF 1 styling

What do YOU THINK? Are the FNAF2 Withereds the 1993 Animatronics? *DROP YOUR THEORIES BELOW*

Bro is game theory but for ONLY Fnaf!

They are canonically the same Animatronics. The true and obvious explanation for why the designs are different is because Scott "upgraded" the designs of the classic Animatronics for the second game. Let us examine the material, from Dawko's interview and some Reddit posts we can understand that although Scott had a lot of experience when it comes to making models, Five Nights at Freddy's was very experimental. Five Nights at Freddy's 2 was more developed and throught out. We can see that when making the Withered Animatronics Scott gave them upper teeth, some buttons and other small detail to overhaul the designs. Some people could argue that the Withered Animatronics are different for lore reasons but just look at Springtrap and Afton ("Scraptrap"). They are canonically the exact same character but his design took a 360º between games. Scott is not consistent with designs and everyone knows that. Great video regardless. I love when people come up with theories to try and explain Scott's inconsistencies from a lore prespective! Edit: Fixed some grammar mistakes.

2:22 Small thing, but I'm fairly certain Fredbear wasn't retired before or probably during Fredbear's Family Diner Phone Guy is familiar with the old animatronics, but is less familiar with Fredbear's Family Diner The old restaurant the Withereds came from was probably a similar layout, or even the same building as what would later be used as the FNAF 1 location, since Phone Guy also mentions that the old location had doors for the office, unlike the FNAF 2 location

bro is the kind of person to answer every question in fnaf

My personal theory is pretty similar, after the 1987 location closed down with the toys being discarded and the withereds being kept around for a new location, Fazbear Entertainment redesigned the suits because the main reason why the withereds weren't used in the 1987 location was because "they were so ugly" as Phone Guy says, so they gave them a cuter and friendlier suit, they also made their jaws a lot more safer by having less power on the servos or pneumatics depending on what technology they used (realistically it would be pneumatics as that's what real animatronics use and they can be pretty powerful but Phone Guy mentions the fact that they use servos in FNAF 1, so maybe they either had servos all along or replaced pneumatics with servos.) one of the changes on their jaws was to remove the upper row of teeth on Freddy and Bonnie. These redesigns also made Freddy look less like Fredbear (who most likely looked more like the Withered Freddy design than the FNAF 1 Freddy design shown on UCN which makes zero sense if you think about it for more than 2 minutes) Fazbear Entertainment would reuse a lot of the metal parts on the original endoskeletons, which are the parts that the remnant holds onto in the first place so the kids' spirits would still be there. And like you said in the video, they disposed of the corpses found stuffed inside of the animatronics as Fazbear Entertainment reports dead people as "missing" and covers up their deaths. So in conclusion Fazbear Entertainment is evil and everyone involved with the company or it's decisions deserves to burn in hell for eternity expect maybe for the minimum wage workers like the cashiers and security guards.

one thing that completely shatters the theory: fnaf1 phone guy talks about the bite of '87 (literally the ending of fnaf2) in past tense, meaning it already happened, meaning fnaf2 is before fnaf1

Evidence supports that the withered animatronics had the bodies removed, and the animatronics in FNAF 1 had no bodies, and the reason (looks to) W foxy has a endo 02, is cause he has a edited endo for his ears, Chica is the only one who has a not edited FNAF 01 endo.

At 3:21, i do think that they did replaced some parts of the endo like this head and the legs, and that the endo in fnaf 1 parts and services is actually an newer endo they made after replacing the parts from the old endos

I feel like people just overthink this, modern technology can completely make this possible, all they did was rebuild specific parts of the shells AND endoskeletons using the old tech as just a base for more affordability options

Years later after fnaf 2 was basically said to be a prequel somehow people don't know that.

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THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE GETS THIS!!(people who don't watch matpats more recent theories of the 1st fnaf games keep saying something contradictory to this no hating on that it's just too many keep doing it and it gives me a headache)

Love your video and keep up the great work. You are awesome and what kf they are the same, but FNAF 2 comes first, and they saw the old one and fix them up

Another possible explanation is while building the new suits and Endoskeletons, Fazbear Entertainment reused parts from the old suits and Endoskeletons or melted down what they couldn't into the parts they needed. But all of these parts would still have the remnant and souls of the kids inside. Also if the majority of their souls are inside the circuit boards which were probably fully reused it would make sense for them to inhabit a completely new suit and endoskeleton. This is something we see with Glitchtrap being at least partially Afton even if it isn't fully him. We see it again in Help Wanted 2 with Circus Baby in her levels. A large enough piece of them remained to essentially clone them digitally. But that's with damaged circuitry, back then the original animatronics wouldn't have had their circuitry as badly damaged. Maybe replaced a fuse or a capacitor here and there, clean up some oxidation and everything runs perfectly. I see this online with old electronic restorations where they take broken or non functional electronics ,specifically game systems and have them working as good or better than factory new. If we assume that the circuitry from the Withered Animatronics was reused completely with just a new endoskeleton then it makes sense. If the same hardware and software that was running the Withereds was simply transferred into the new suits and endoskeletons, they would still have the souls of the kids still attached to them.

I’ve been watching ur vids since you had less then 1k

This is what I've been saying for years, thank you for providing a clear and easy explanation🔥🔥

congrats on the views! this video is sick because ive always wondered this

Pretty good explanation for the in-game redesign, though I would say that the og Freddy's/location 0 is a separate establishment from fredbear's, though same company/franchise

YOOOOOO I absolutely love your videos and definitely make me think more theoies! I love your work and keep up the awesome work!! (Big fan and i keep coming back to watch more!) :D

Another banger. 🥹🙏👍 I was looking g through some stuff, and noticed a secret in FNAF 3, that no one really talks about. In the Chica’s party world mini game, when you go to the out of bounds area where you give cake to the crying kid, you’ll fall through the floor, where you’ll find 5 shadow cupcakes. 4 of then are at the right, with a 5th one always following you. I do find it interesting that it’s there, but it’s never really discussed. As for what it means, it could represent the 5 missing kids, and the one that always follows could be Cassidy? The Cupcake was always a strange character, even with him having a yellow version of himself. Anyone have any ideas?

You know. This would also explain a line from the puppet in ultimate custom night. "The others are like animals, but I'm very aware." Soul spilling messes with your memory, so maybe the refurbishing caused that?

Hello, i have a question.. could u make an video theory about what happened to minireenas, bidybabs ect. after funtimes left the place?

my theory was that there were "unwithered" animatronics in an earlier than fnaf2 restaurant (maybe even with fredbears. So when the fnaf2 location closed and toy animatronics scrapped they were refitted to look more friendly and cleaner.

My theory: In 1987-1993, celebrate the grand re-opening of Freddy Fazbear’s (FNAF 2), the company stripped the withered animatronics parts, to either reuse or to use for comparison and scale. But when they DID reuse the parts, Remnant lingers inside of them. Causing the FNAF 1 animatronics to come to life.

> FNAF 2 Pizzeria Wiith Withered Animatronics Shuts Down > Retrofits Characters & Modifys Endo Skeleton

From what video or animation did you get this part from? 3:17

This also explains why they seamingly bit you to death in the 2nd game but stuff you in a suit in the first

This was super interesting you’re a great KZfaqr twisted animatronic

Maybe William Afton upgraded them himself so thats why it wasn’t reported.

Another thing I thought about with this idea, the whole "remnant" thing bein a huge ordeal now they could have made new molds for the endos, turned the older endos into the molten steel that still has the souls inside it, an forged the new endos with it. Cause we've seen that the remnant can survive for long periods of time an extreme heat. So all that happened is the souls were still trapped inside the robots but they got a new endo an some flashy covers. To me, it explains the sudden transformation between FNAF 1 an 2. Redesigned to be child friendly with the children still hauntin the suits...

I have a possible answer for this: Maybe William afton changed the animatronics bodies and endos in 1993 so he wouldn't have taken out the spirits. Also I think the children souls are stuck into the animatronics endo because foxy had a broken stomach in fnaf 2 and we didn't see a single part of the child's body inside withered foxy. Yep that answers my question.

this video was amazing!

Scott when people point out his plot hole: 😰 Scott after somebody makes a video explaining it: 😌

0:29 i have a theory, save them takes place before fnaf 1 and the fnaf 1 animatronics used to look like repaired fnaf 2 withered but due to the save them event they where remade

I think the soul is in the part the corpse had contact with, the chest portion of the animatronic skeleton. It’s the main part that wouldn’t of been replaced

They should’ve attatched me to chica’s arm cause i dont like being a prize on a shelf >:{

We got a same to same matpat

2:05 at this point, it would’ve probably been just skeletons. I think it would’ve decomposed to a point where was just skeletons.

I have been enough fan ever of FNAF since the first game came out when I was a child, yet now as an adult one question that I had was never answered. It’s mentioned mentioned by phone guy in FNAF 1 that parents complained about both blood and mucus coming from the animatronics; however, in FNAF 2, it was mentioned that the withered animatronics were refurnished, meaning that Fazbear entertainment would have found the bodies of the missing children and disposed of them, which is why we don’t see the corpses of the missing children in FNAF 2 in the withered animatronics,(Withered Foxy being an example…). With that said, if the bodies were disposed of in FNAF 2, and the withered animatronics were kept because they were refurbished with advanced technology and made into the FNAF 1 animatronics, then how come parents complained about mucus and blood coming from the FNAF1 Animatronics? TLDR: If Fazbear entertainment disposed of the bodies in the withered animatronics before the gameplay of FNAF 2 took pace, and the FNAF 2 withered animatronics were made into the FNAF 1 animatronics, then why did the parents complain about the FNAF 1 one animatronics having blood and mucas coming from them?

Hey idk if youve seen those ninja turtle costume props from like the 80s there is a before and after picture, it reminds me of this

This guys voice makes me happy

My thoery: People forget that animatronics are animatronics, which means they don't necessarily need to replace parts with completely new ones. What I mean is that an Endo 01 can become an Endo 02 using the entirety of the previous endo skeleton to create the new Endo, to which new technology is added. The same goes for the suits; the Withereds are exactly the same animatronics from FNAF 1 with the technology from FNAF 2 and vice versa. As for the bodies of the children, I don't believe that if a child dies and is placed inside an animatronic, the body remains inside it. I believe that the physical body, at the moment of possession, merges with the animatronic and leaves no traces of its existence. This means that even if the police had known they were inside, they would never have been able to recover them. Unlike Springtrap, who literally merged with the animatronic and therefore his physical body became part of the animatronic itself, like an endoskeleton. That's why his body didn't disappear when he was possessed.

Its so warming how people still make videos of this old game, its so nice! apart from Poppy Playtime

If people believe the fnaf 2 animatronics and the fnaf1 animatronics aren’t the same because of different design, then by that logic scraptrap isn’t springtrap because they’re design is different

No wonder the FNAF Movie had this idea...

But hey! That's Just A Theory A GAME THEORY

They took apart the some of the Withered Animatronic parts and used them for the fixed versions of the OG cast

3:05 my theory is that after the 1993 pizzeria opened the puppet took the souls from the withereds then put them inside the ones we see in fnaf 1

If you forgot for withered chica, Twisted Animatronic. You might have known that she might have not been at Fredbear's family diner, but instead at the other restaurant for the mediocre melodies because there used to be a yellow t-posing chicken.

2:40 perfect example of what my room would have looked like

Only problem with this theory is golden freddy. We know golden freddy is merely a ghost/hallucination so how would that work in your context? Everything else makes sense but for now we dont know how cassidy would be in a different suit

One simple answer different Endo different jawline different Endo different amount of toes. FNaF 2 animatronic Endo 02 has a jawline that matches up with every animatronic and has the same amount of toes except for balloon boy(the rascal has no toes) and when we look at Endo 01 everything matches up with the Fnaf one and animatronics except for Bonnie and golden Freddy and since we know, Golden Freddy is Fred bear that gives further proof that FNaF 2 is a prequel. Not to mention. We also see one singular Endo 02. And since the withered animatronics are decommissioned. that’s means William Afton and Henry Emily wouldn’t be producing any more endo 02s. So they they used Endo 02 and endo one two fix Bonnie. And and the only reason why the withered animatronics. Were decommissioned was because they were too scary. It would make sense that Henry and William would change the withered animatronics to not be as scary as possible and not just making a full-blown new animatronic because keep in mind after FNaF 2 they were on a smaller budget.

Did anyone ever think about how the withered's are like scrap trap... i think it was just a design change like scrap trap and how he is the same but looks completely different

No, they're literally the animatronics used in Fredbear's Family Diner.

Another idea is that Scott wanted to make a new design so people won’t get bored of the old ones…

Chica doesn't have a big mouth because that's the damage I believe

i have another theory for the endo. they melted it down, took the technology out of them, recasted the endo with the same metal they melted and put the technology back in.

I think My theory is that the endoskeleton of the old animatronics were melted and then reused the molten metal for new endoskeleton from Fnaf 1.

This is a good theory.

But why do some of the Phantoms in Fnaf 3 Look like the Witherts in Fnaf 2?

1.The Withereds aren't actually from Fredbears (as Fredbears only had Fredbear, Spring Bonnie, and possible the puppet too).The Withereds are actually from the 1983 Freddys location that we never see. 2.What I think happened is that Fazbear Entertainment was originally just going to repair the Withereds and use them for the 1993 location, however, since William demolished them in Follow me, they were forced to just use parts of the withereds in the fnaf 1 Animatronics, and for some reason, the souls of the kids decide to rehaunt the animatronics.

Wait so the main parts they removed to “baby proof them “ does that mean those are the parts that William Afton used for revenant and for the Funtime animatronics, I have so many questions. My head hurts.

Great vid

3:15 the animatronic Endos that have the soul are melted and built into the new endo

Fox been mewing since decommission

Foxy did some mewing

I felt the toys were a lot more advanced than the og animatronics, the building we are watching was more spacious and had more to offer than what we see in the first game and on top of all of it, we see stuff from the both games in the third installment, but the toy stuff looked more polished and clean for the most part compared to the og animatronics' parts, which were dirty and destroyed despite a 6 year difference. 36 years (At least that is what I am gathering from the internet) of anything that could have happened to the toys' parts and they look like they can be thrown onto an endo and used again after a bit of repair. I know that fnaf 2 is a prequel, but it just doesn't feel like it should be because of how the game is setting itself up. And the argument about parts and such being changed out or replaced can be made for if fnaf 2 was a sequel instead of prequel. TL:DR Fnaf 2 feels more like a sequel than a prequel, but it is for some reason a prequel

The Withereds are unfinished redesigns, after FNAF 2 they were just reverted them back to how they looked in 1983

Easy the reason why the withered were first was because in Fnaf two was in 1987 and in the Fnaf 1 phone call I think the first night he says “and then there was the bite of 87”which means that Fnaf two came before Fnaf 1 so that’s why both of them are the same and that the Bonnie song that goes like “he took away my face he took away my arm” is fake because Fnaf 2 came first

Hey, where is this footage coming from? I'm interested in watching these videos.

Beer twisted the withered were the animatronics before the toy animatronics at juniors but when William Afton came in the following mini game he scrapped them so they had to be replaced with the toy animatronics so that's why they're there in the first place that was their Pizzeria before the toys

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And the reason why the FNAF 1 and 2 animatronics (FNAF 2 withereds) looks so differen tis because Fazbear Entertainment want to recreate the Unwithereds/Withereds but more kid - friendly and addicted to the children, because Henry thought the Unwithereds looked too scary, thats why they were scrapped.

The thing adout the different endos , I have a most suitable theory the in the books of the fazbear frights or something else we can to now about remenent which is a metal in which the souls are trapped when that metal is melted and could be injected into any thing to give them life which was found by William Afton to bring the crying child to life and did those experiments with the children who where killed

The answer was at fredbears family diner there were the main 2 springbonnie and fredbear and the unwithereds and it took place before FNAF 2 and then in 187 which is when FNAF 2 took place after IT FNAF 1 was made in 1993 so it is the real reason

Oh yeah, and MCI came after they upgraded the withered animatronics. Because they upgraded them as a last ditch effort to keep the withered animatronics on stage but like fun guy said they were too ugly and when they are decommissioned that’s when William Afton Cause MCI

I think the main parts of the Endo 02 and Endo 01 are too different to be reused for the Endo 01. I personally believe that the animatronics were remade from the ground up except for the reuse of the exact same wiring and programming that was in the Withereds, allowing them to be possessed.

The only reason why i dont believe that withered and fnaf 1 animatronics are the same is because in the fnaf 50/20 custom game....they are seperate, as in: we have og chica and withered chica that says: i was first, i have seen everything.

This is because fnaf 2 is before fnaf 1 and the withared animatronics is the big new replacement then the bite of 83 happend and the withared animatronics got replaced by the toys

This can literally just be explained in a youtube short if want the summed up version just look at this comment. You see, the reason the un withered animatronics were replaced by the toys was because they were deemed too scary which means that when the withered were brought back they had to be redesigned, obviously using the original parts but just changing the animatronic design. Basically the reason that the witherds and the og’s look the same is because it is explicitly stated IN THE GAME!

Here's the ACTUAL reason behind the differences in design: Scott dosn't actually reuses models between projects unless it has relevence for the plot, and commits to always create a new model for each projects. This is why Scraptrap looks nothing like Springtrap. This is why Molten dosn't look like Ennard at all. This is why golden Freddy in fnaf 1 and 2 dosn't have five fingers. This is why Fredbear and Spring Bonnie's hats and bowties change colors between games, movie and books. And this is why the withered looks nothing like the fnaf 1 designs, even trought the books suggest that in the very first freddy's location (the one from 1985 were they origninated from, wich isn't Fredbear's) looks like the fnaf 1 designs. They went from fnaf 1, to fnaf 2, to fnaf 1 again. Why? Because Scott just dosn't care. It has no revelance to the story in any ways. This is also why the dream squences in fnaf 2 were you see from Freddy's perspective the animatronics are the fnaf 1 designs, they were in the original freddy's that opened in 1983 and closed in 1985. Hence why the puppet was present into theses dreams. Comfirming that the "Give the gift of life" minigame isn't just a symblolic gesture. Why? Because in the game's timeline. William didn't stuff the kids. She did to give them life. Wich is different from both games and books, because there's not even a puppet in them. Also, the story was changed.

This would be a FNAF 2 Movie Leak for the withered animatronics 😮

Can no one just say that these withered animatronics are from Fredbears. They became scrapped and then the toy animatronics came. Then they trashed them and used them and the withered to make the fnaf 1 animatronics

They where actually based off the 1983 animatronics compare them to see

Literally glosses over the fact that phone guy says they’ve been retro fitted with newer tech

Theres a pretty well recieved theory that the fnaf 3 mini game where purple guy disassembles the animatronics is him taking the endos for the funtimes, i personally do not believe that one. But thinking about that with this context: Fazbear entertainment swapped out endo parts feom the original endos with new ones, disgarding the old parts, but purple guy takes those old parts with rhe remnant in them and uses THOSE for the funtimes. As for what i think that minigame is for then? Probably the original MCI, or something that happens AFTER fnaf 1

oh nice theory

Fnaf theory: so what happened was it was a normal day in fredbears family diner so Willam Afton was watching the kid (what will go wrong) so then he said follow me and then they were killed fredbears family diner was closed springbonnie and fredbear was disqualified freddy bonnie chica and foxy were now the gang 13 years later withereds were now the gang (let me now what was wrong thanks)

This is the reason why they look different. It’s because they went to a different model. The children went to a different model of the OG gang.

The real reason is that they couldn't fix the parts like they said in the game but not in the game is how they were there before fnaf1 they were in fredbear and friends in fnaf 4 we see a video on the tv witch is the cartoon and place fredbear and friends so they had to start from scratch but not completely

(This is before I watch the video) I saw a pretty good theory where he sed that William stole the endo skeletons for the funtime anamatronics and the shells for the fnaf 4 experiments th

I mean chronologically fnaf 2 comes before fnaf 1 so they did get a major upgrade.