The REAL Reason Why Pros Use High Field of View

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Playing on a higher field of view can have a huge impact on how well you aim. It's not just about having better awareness through having more information on your screen.
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@Soothsayer7X Жыл бұрын

You said this beautifully. I had changed to 90 FOV due to poor vision at first it seemed perfect and it helped a lot but I realized up close fights I kept over shooting thinking my sense was too fast for me. I finally switched back to 110 on apex and now I’m beaming up close and far. It’s hard to see far away but it’s worth the sacrifice for better feeling and control.

@Lowgravity56 2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the great content! Between this and the video about the sensor angle you have given me so much things to try!

@TheMeta 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@foxus-a113 Жыл бұрын

Man you cover such unknown concepts, love your channel

@ironleeFPS 2 жыл бұрын

For reference, In human vision, the FOV is composed of two monocular FOVs, which the brain stitches together to form one binocular FOV. Each individual eye has a horizontal FOV of about 135 degrees and a vertical FOV of just over 180 degrees. So if you want realism we may want to adjust accordingly. However this is on the monitor so it is going to seem much wider.

@sergrojGrayFace 4 ай бұрын

"vertical FOV of just over 180 degrees" - that's wildly wrong. You're misquoting something. [edit] No, it's the source that you've quoted that's provided wrong info.

@sergrojGrayFace 4 ай бұрын

This one sounds reasonable: "The FOV of human eyes is approximately 135 vertically and 200 horizontally including the vision of two eyes with a horizontal binocular FOV of 120 • (where the FOVs of two eyes overlap)."

@Nuk- 2 жыл бұрын

Love to see content from you guys!

@TheMeta 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@WisdomPowerCourage 2 жыл бұрын

You always have such good tips on detailed things other people don't cover. Would love to see a video on advice about how much wrist/palm should touch the mousepad, in different ranges/scenarios. I developed a bad habit were my aim was really accurate in wrist range, but when I moved my whole arm, my palm dragged, making uneven arm aim. On the other hand, I tried my palm floating, but that made my aim so much less accurate, it was horrible.

@TheMeta 2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@WisdomPowerCourage 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeta Cool! Looking forward to if you choose to make a video about it!

@drippin5762 2 жыл бұрын

i have the exact same problem and nobody talks about it

@WisdomPowerCourage 2 жыл бұрын

@@drippin5762 He made the video

@niloyck2540 Жыл бұрын

Also on high fov recoil feel way less, enemy movement become way more predictable, enemy movement animations become less distractive (easier to focus) and allows to do way faster and precise shoulder peeking/flicks.

@Nijinja Жыл бұрын

Gonna try this out, you never fail to deliver the high quality aim god level tips!! just downloaded kovaak's, im gonna post my results after a few weeks on yt

@Svnistrous Жыл бұрын

my issue was high sensitivty, and when i lowered it instantly improved my tracking. thanks for the tip!

@finity9316 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video on shakey aim and clanking of the mouse when recentering

@somerandomonyoutube1033 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@TheMeta 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea, will have a think on how to approach this one.

@Jhowx11 Жыл бұрын

Perfect video!!!

@jjdoerig 2 жыл бұрын

how to get the same centimeters per pixel if i want to keep same sensitivity from csgo (4;3) and apex(fov110)?

@jojo-vt1cr 2 жыл бұрын

Hi please make videos explaining raw accel and recoil smoothing

@juancolorado8562 2 жыл бұрын

Bro, i have learned a lot with your videos and i wanna say thank you for all. I got a question and it would be good if you can read me. For me 103 degrees its a good FOV for shooter, but in valorant i think its so high, and i would like to use 90 degrees and use Focal Length Sensitivity Scaling. The point is, valorant does not have a fov slider, but i can use a stretched resolution; but using stretched resolution i only change my horizontal FOV but not my vertical FOV. There is a way to change only my horizontal sensitivity?? i mean using a program o something like that?

@flanovskiydtauskiy5870 Жыл бұрын

RawAccel

@wilihey1425 Жыл бұрын

in some games lower field of view seems better for me because of the zoomed in clarity, like in pubg or whatever, its already so hard to spot ennemies and i dont get in cqb much so i rather have 90 fov or 85

@thepainfultruth2863 2 жыл бұрын

Does this rule apply to aspect ratio? I do lower my fov to 80 from time to time in kovaaks to work on my smoothness but in game I like high Fov and a stretched aspect ratio. 110 fov on 16:9 feels really slow and controlled. 16:10 feels a bit more fluid and 4:3 feels really fast but accurate longer ranges

@maddugqc6911 2 жыл бұрын

wath he said irs not true… in he experiment he forget to adapt is sensitivity for he new fov but higher fov is alway harder to aim ..since poeple are smaller

@hypnotic_o Жыл бұрын

16:10 110 fov is equal to 104 fov on 16:9

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

Depends on how the game calculates FOV. If it gives horizontal fov, vertical fov, or some weird mix in the settings.

@potapotapotapotapotapota Жыл бұрын

I think a HFOV of about 120 is a good middle ground between fast turning speed and distortion. But this all depends on how far away the monitor is from your eyes. Placing it closer to you will reduce the distortion and placing it further from you will increase the distortion. Most people usually sit at like a 90 degree angle away from their monitor. l like to sit further back for the sake of my eye health.

@spudermapiszon6360 Жыл бұрын

for minecraft i use 100 fov but in quake i use 120 fov but in other games in other FPS games i use from 100 to 120 :/

@nix4o493 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what role the ads sens plays in the Apex scenario. I've tried 104 fov all the way to 120 fov and i've kept my ads sens 1:1 cm/360 on 1x,2x, and 3x as I use toggle ads for the sake of consistency.

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

I ended up with 100 in Apex, 105 in Destiny 2 and 85 in Planetside 2. All three games calculate differently. In Apex 100 in the settings gives 114.8 horizontally and 82.449 vertically In Destiny 105 gives 100.8 horizontally and 74.14 vertically In Planetside 85 gives 116.91 horizontally and 85 vertically.

@pennynukenarc Жыл бұрын

So you're basically aiming in 3d while maneuvering and in 2d while aiming, which causes a disconnect?

@pensiveteam 3 ай бұрын

I just use it because speed.

@TheDC-ks3tw 2 жыл бұрын

How did you calculate the difference in sensitivity when lowering fov I was thinking of going from 1.2 @90 fov to 110 on apex

@TheMeta 2 жыл бұрын

The best method is to use focal length scaling, to do that manually for games with the same FOV scale (or in your case converting to the same game), you can follow the instructions in this video here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odyYrch11LW7lHU.html If you do this for apex you will end up with 1.2 > 1.71, this is actually slightly wrong as Apex lists their FOV incorrectly so it should be 1.69. There is a good chance this sens will feel too high though, for the same reasons outlined in the video. If you do choose to play on 110 FOV, you will have a lot more freedom to lower your sens if you feel like it.

@e1s21 Ай бұрын

I play Apex Legends on a ps4 slim and I used to set my fov on 110, because that made me feel I was leading my shots better. Now I'm trying to lower it a bit on 104, because I read that on old consoles having high fov was actually damaging because of the lack of FPS you would get; but I honestly couldn't find a difference in my frames. Can someone help me to figure out whether it's best to keep my fov at max or not, in my case?

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

I always see the tradeoff high fov -> more peripheral vision, game feels faster low fov -> bigger targets in the center, less stuff to render (higher fps) in the end the best result depends on the game and the player.

@potapotapotapotapotapota Жыл бұрын

Low fov doesn't actually increase FPS. What will impact FPS is a change in resolution, but you have the same amount of pixels being rendered no matter what FOV you use. Also, the tradeoff with having bigger targets with low FOV is that they will appear to move faster, making tracking harder due to the parallax motion effect.

@mikulik8170 Жыл бұрын

@@potapotapotapotapotapota Low FOV does increase FPS in most situations, because the game has less geometry/game world to render. A lot of computation in computer graphics (including games) is resolution independent, hence why 4K (UHD - 3840x2160) in tradionally rasterized games runs "only" about 2.5x slower then FHD (same settings despite the res) even though the res/pixel count is exactly 4X higher not all of the computation gets "scaled" by the factor of 4X because not all of the computation that the "engine" has to do is resolution dependent. If you have a lower FOV and the same settings/res the game engine has less of the gameworld to render -> less objects, less textures and so on -> that is why console games very often have locked and quite low FOVs -> to save performance!

@potapotapotapotapotapota Жыл бұрын

@@mikulik8170 Ok do you have any examples of this? Because when I tested this in a few games the FOV made absolutely no difference to FPS. Like I tested this in Call of Duty which has a locked low FOV on console but it made no difference.

@MasterAlexS Жыл бұрын

This video made me realize why I always prefer using max fov in Minecraft

@Potato-ei4fd Жыл бұрын

I’m a bit late but I keep switching games with same send but on different fov. Will this affect my aim?

@cavitebulls6921 Жыл бұрын

yes, Lower FOV games vill wake you will more sensitivity

@usedsweatpants799 Жыл бұрын

Using Apex for reference : Lower fov like 90 gives me motion sickness and the game feels really claustrophobic. I can't for the life of me understand how shivfps plays like that. whenever i see compilations of him here on YT I feel like riding a rollercoaster. Additionally anything lower than 104 feels like the game is too slow and it messes up with my momentum. I usually change between 104 to 110 but decided to stick with 110 not only because I feel that I can track and flick shot better but also the ingame and ads sense that I use somehow feels better. Especially the ads sense , something that I've struggled so much to find comfort and now apparently I found it . Dpi : 800 hipfire sense :1.44 ads sense : 1 x - 1.4 2x till 10x - 1.3 fov : 110

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

I found myself comfortable with 100 fov in apex. the right balance between peripheral vision, target size, and performance.

@ChrisKadaver Жыл бұрын

Most QC pros use fov 110-113. Only a few use up to 120. I personally use 120 but I still think getting good at 113 would be the sweet spot. And I think theres a reason why the absolute best pros use lower then 120. The slightly bigger hitboxes makes up for the slightly harder mobility and the fact you have to lower your sens some. Many quake players use already higher sens than people do in other games so... But I'm too lazy to get used to something new. I seem to be stuck at around top 500 in duels. I don't know what I need to improve further. Probably a new brain. XD

@VertigoX26 Жыл бұрын

A fellow Quake Champions player? Ah, I see you're a person of culture as well. ;-) I agree with your sentiment. It often depends on the style of gameplay (Quake vs Apex vs Counter-Strike, etc.), and each factor has its pros and cons. Each game would seem to have different optimal intersection between pros and cons for each person.

@jacksonenright6737 Жыл бұрын

i knew deep down somewhere that stretch res was a fad. its literally just csgo where it has a good reason. so many good players have no idea they are nerfing themselves

@LAN-w- 10 ай бұрын

Does this also apply for controller users?

@24hourpharmacy81 2 жыл бұрын

i just like feeling fast

@rodrigoalexandre5087 2 жыл бұрын

what sens you use

@dakrawnik4208 Жыл бұрын

I use max FOV for horizontal visibility and easier recoil control.

@linuxrant Жыл бұрын

I knew it! I knew it, although I could not explain it!

@HeartInLight Ай бұрын

It depends on the game. You should always put it as high as you are comfortable playing at. And no higher. But honestly. I feel like they should in every pvp game. Make it 1 fov for everyone. Whether it be, 80, 100, or 120. Idc. Because doing otherwise creates an uneven playing field. Which goes against the very nature of a competitive game. If someone can walk in with a 21:9 monitor and get the extra peripheral view. Then that is stupid, and anti competitive. There is only 1 shooter game doing it right in most things. Fov, audio, competitive integrity ect. Which one it is, you can figure out on your own.

@potenzaintertradeco.ltd.6970 2 ай бұрын

I play bf5 and i use 1080p monitor and 70in game fov, equivalent to 86 fov Im a sniper. However low fov helps me to control the recoil of automatic weapons. High fov not so good, the crossair moves less, less control over recoil

@hernandezdcarlos 2 жыл бұрын

120. DPI 1600 sens. 2. Really taking the stairs to improve my aim. I’ll probably bump it up 2.5 in a few weeks.

@sheivocfw5191 Жыл бұрын

Its too high bro

@hernandezdcarlos Жыл бұрын

I just change to 1200 DPI with 3.75 sen. What do you suggest?

@user-zu1ix3yq2w Жыл бұрын

This is already a problem in Apex. 1080p, high FOV and a pixel will headshot you with a shotgun. I'm not sure high FOV is good advice for low resolution or for people with poor eyesight.

@AyoSenpaii 2 жыл бұрын

hi im a apex player i use 110 FOV and use 1.2 sens can someone help me cuz i want my 2x sens to be the same but not like to the same cm/360 just like what he did at 1:55 to 2:48 and plz explain to me how to do it so i can do it with all my other sensitivity's

@AyoSenpaii 2 жыл бұрын

yeah i ment how to get the same pixels per degree i think dont know really need help here

@Chakotay2222 Жыл бұрын

high fov makes mouse lazy in middle where you aim but faster turning around 360

@Katze822228 2 жыл бұрын

idk.. i think i find it easier to aim with lower FOV. Otherwise i wouldn't zoom in when using rail. And in games where you can get away with a lower FOV, pros tend to also use low FOV. In CS GO most pros play 3:4 which is lower horizontal FOV than 16:9 and in quake duel some pros also prefer lower FOV. In both games you know where your opponent is coming from most times. But even though i believe aiming is easier with lower FOV (as long as the target stays on screen) i usually go for 125 FOV if the game allows it. It just feels better and as you said, you can get away with higher sens because it feels like a lower sens which is great for moving around. If i need to be precise i can always zoom in to get low sens and FOV.

@maddugqc6911 2 жыл бұрын

You are toraly right its just that in is video he forgot to adjust is sensitivity to get the same pixel / mouse centimeter simply of that he tought that he was harder to aim but its just that is sensitivity was for high fov and not good for low fov poeple dont really know but each time you change fov you need to change mouse sensitivity use. Mouse sensitivity and distance horizontal for 1:1 result

@kennaee Жыл бұрын

@@maddugqc6911 But he DID change his sens and even commented about it. Not sure what you are on lol

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

yup, some games will have people surprise you from the flanks, others tend to be more predictable.

@mornotafi 3 ай бұрын

High energy heroes (Apex mobile Chinese version) , 120 FOV 🐥

@sn1p1n Жыл бұрын

I just feel faster

@jawwk 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@keephyt.3698 2 жыл бұрын

he said 45CM 360?! im new to pc shooters coming from console and im struggling to find "my sens". mostly play apex and am currently at 32cm 360, any helpful tips please?

@tinychamberz 2 жыл бұрын

learn to move ur arm, and not just ur wrist :) try super low sens so u are forced to use ur arm, then find a balance where u use arm and wrist ^^

@houdinics2 Жыл бұрын

practice makes perfect

@auro8649 Жыл бұрын

Go with whatever makes you feel the most comfortable. According to some statistics, most pro players use about 25-35 cm/360 so your numbers look good, if u can handle it well of course.

@potapotapotapotapotapota Жыл бұрын

30cm per 360 is a good starting point for most people. 45cm imo is very slow for most games. Would only really be useful in games like CS:GO and utterly worthless in every other fast-paced game - unless you have jacked forearms.

@keiththompson4605 Жыл бұрын

Am I a joke to you…

@ageon613 Жыл бұрын

Also it's easier to control recoil

@bobcobb158 2 жыл бұрын

a lot of scenarios in kovaaks would undoubtedly be easier with a lower FOV, but now I'm realizing it's pointless to lower the fov just for the sake of being better at the aim trainer when I'm only using the aim trainer to get better at games. Thanks for the video, was really just curious about FOV in kovaaks but this helped me realize why high fov is actually good

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

yup, you want the same fov in your aim trainer that you have in game. And different games do different calculations from the value you type in to what you see.

@0kayyraf120 Жыл бұрын

i play 110

@sergrojGrayFace 4 ай бұрын

Meanwhile most CS pros do the exact opposite.

@Avenger127 2 ай бұрын

I have good eyes, low fov is Terrible.

@baksteen123 Жыл бұрын

Changing fov doesn't do anything for aim. Increasing fov without changing sens might provide the illusion of a having a slower sens due to less pixels changing on screen, but you still require exactly the same precision (mouse movements) when shooting targets and moving around.