The Real Story of Slate 46: The F-14 Tomcat Shot Down in Desert Storm

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Ward Carroll

Ward Carroll

2 жыл бұрын

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In this episode Ward describes the harrowing and heroic experience of the crew of Slate 46, an F-14A+ Tomcat shot down over western Iraq during the fourth day of Desert Storm, and the Air Force Pave Low helicopter and A-10s that attempted to find them.

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@thomastrask1230
@thomastrask1230 2 жыл бұрын
Great telling if this story. I learned new things 30 years later! Two very minor corrections: the Moccasins did not launch together on the first sortie, only because we still thought there was an A-6 down also, otherwise we would have always operated as a 2-ship. Also, the gunner you mention was actually MSgt Tim Hadrych. Ben Pennington is the PJ who is in the photo you showed.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detail, sir. And amazing airmanship, courage, and determination on that mission. Thanks for getting Boots out. Beers on me if you're ever in Annapolis.
@JustinLong1977
@JustinLong1977 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this comment should be pinned!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustinLong1977 Great idea. Done.
@Damitsall
@Damitsall 2 жыл бұрын
Here comes the roosters.
@Mrcrisis2012
@Mrcrisis2012 2 жыл бұрын
My brother Maj Ed Ashley was commanding the AWACS on a rescue mission that was written up in Readers Digest....not sure if this was his mission or another rescue. I think on his mission they rescued the crew...he called in strikes against Republican Guard coming after the Crew.
@spyone4828
@spyone4828 2 жыл бұрын
I work overnights in a convenience store, and being near Oceana and Norfolk Naval Base we got a lot of Navy folks on their way to work. One day my coworker asked me what a particular officer's ribbons were, and I said it isn't like I have them memorized - I would have to look them up. "But the purple one is the Purple Heart, and the star means he got it twice." So the next day my coworker says to the guy, "So, how does one go about getting two purple hearts?" "You get one if you eject over enemy territory, and another if you are actually injured in the ejection." And that's how we met Captain Slader (Rat), who was at the time he retired the last former POW on active duty. Or as he described it, a "former guest of the Government of Saddam Hussein."
@kiltedscorpio
@kiltedscorpio 2 жыл бұрын
5
@Magikarp-yk7io
@Magikarp-yk7io 10 күн бұрын
@spyone4828 another good reason they aren't worth shit and looked upon as a crybaby medal more often than not lol
@pmurray0511
@pmurray0511 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Boots came back to the ship and I caught him right before he entered the ready room. I welcomed him back to the ship and I noticed the whites of his eyes were red. The blood vessels in his eyes burst with the yaw rate of the flat spin. I am truly grateful to everybody involved in getting my squadron mates back to us.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 2 жыл бұрын
did you see Ratsy again after he was released?
@pmurray0511
@pmurray0511 2 жыл бұрын
@@pontiacGXPfan I saw Rat one more time after we got back before he transferred.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmurray0511 you were with the Sluggers when all this happened right? was the skipper Bluto(James McFillin)or Santa(Don Santapaola)?
@pmurray0511
@pmurray0511 2 жыл бұрын
@@pontiacGXPfan Santa
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmurray0511 then Brian(Rocky) Fitzpatrick WAS the Sluggers' XO. He was interviewed in the Robert Wilcox book Wings of Fury
@dokken440
@dokken440 2 жыл бұрын
Minor correction: Ben Pennington was a pararescue specialist, PJ, and was on the aft ramp with myself, the tailgaters. The left side gunner who made the call was Msgt Tim Hadrych. Tim also took that picture by blindly pointing his camera over the right gunners shoulder. That was an awesome day for sure.
@thomastrask1230
@thomastrask1230 2 жыл бұрын
Dock. I most remember you saying "pilot, tail, up 5, we're kicking up dust" so we climbed from about 15 to 20 feet
@CoryC1033
@CoryC1033 2 жыл бұрын
👊💪
@HAL_9001
@HAL_9001 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to nominate this for a pinned comment as well, Mooch.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomastrask1230 Sounds like the UK Buccaneer crews at Red Flag. "OK Gentlemen, final attack run, no lower than leader."
@Tuglife912
@Tuglife912 2 жыл бұрын
@dokken440 awesome pic of the Sikorsky MH-53M Pave Low IV!!
@DaveMcGhee
@DaveMcGhee 2 жыл бұрын
A-10 pilot Captain Randy Goff grew up just 10 house down from me in Jackson, Ohio. I delivered papers to his mother when he was in Saudi Arabia. I remember delivering the paper with Randy’s story of this rescue to his mother who was very proud. I still have a copy of that paper. Thanks for covering this story and mentioning the people who were involved.
@dennisgoff4723
@dennisgoff4723 2 жыл бұрын
Dave McGhee, that’s a GR8 personal interest memory- Bringing the News to proud parents! Noticed yer Esty shop offerings - will be in touch 🔜 ! Gummit P’day💰 only comes 1 🦅 drop / month LoL 😝
@nexpro6118
@nexpro6118 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I bet he did lol
@spacecatboy2962
@spacecatboy2962 2 жыл бұрын
any guy that takes on an A10 thunderbolt with a datsun deserves a medal of honor or something
@thomasd3862
@thomasd3862 2 жыл бұрын
Adequate proof of the well understood axiom that the SAR mission is always ten times harder than the original mission.
@phillipburroughs146
@phillipburroughs146 2 жыл бұрын
…to hell with Scott O’Grady & “Behind Enemy Lines”, they need to make this into a movie!
@jamesesenwein5152
@jamesesenwein5152 2 жыл бұрын
OIF in 2003, a F-15E was shot down over Tikrit by a SA-6. His wingman stuck around looking for survivors and ran critically low on fuel. CFACC at the time, Gen Moseley, directed a KC-135R out of Bahrain to go drag the remaining F-15E out of the area. Three days later, Gen Moseley shows up at Shaikh Isa in Bahrain and pins DFC's to the KC-135 crew. NKAWTG!
@jamesfuria3939
@jamesfuria3939 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Stratotanker buddy of mine that said on more than one occasion the tankers flew further north than directed to help a plane low on fuel. Thanks guys!, lots of people appreciate it more than you think.
@jamesesenwein5152
@jamesesenwein5152 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesfuria3939 when I flew KC-135’s in Afghanistan we would refuel Special Ops AC-130’s and MC-130’s. Due to the differences in performance envelopes we had to descend with them from 10k’. We took it to 1500’ AGL in the Hindu Kush mountains several nights, and then call disconnect. Got our asses chewed for leaning forwards in trying to get gas to the ass kickers.
@dananichols1816
@dananichols1816 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesesenwein5152 That took some professional stones. Good on ya and your entire crew, for just doing it and taking the heat later. I'm sure that the crews looking back up at you through their windshields are still grateful.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee 2 жыл бұрын
The single-seat fighter version of the F-15 has a perfect record against the enemy (one got oopsied by his wingman), the Mudhen ... well, it's a low-level medium bomber, they get shot down rather often by ground fire.
@cacornett58
@cacornett58 Жыл бұрын
That ancient SA-2 missile must be bad ass, shooting down an F-15 and 2 U-2s in the 60s, many B-52,s in Nam.
@werewolf5674
@werewolf5674 2 жыл бұрын
I was in VF 74 at the time. The Squadron had gone out and bought handheld GPS. We put the dome antenna on top of the top of RIOs sunscreen. It was so much better then INS.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 2 жыл бұрын
We did the same thing when I was in VF-102 flying over B-H in '95.
@jeffhanson9244
@jeffhanson9244 2 жыл бұрын
Great story. Paul Johnson was a new pilot in my squadron when I got out of the Air Force. 20 plus years later we had an A10 reunion at Davis-Monthan AFB. BGen Paul Johnson got up to speak to us and told us he was very confident in his public speaking but when he looked into the crowd and saw the old Captains and Majors he flew with as 2Lt Paul Johnson, Snack bar officer, he was a little nervous. A great guy.
@RWforRP2012
@RWforRP2012 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that could have gone BAT 21 in a hurry if not for the A-10s and the skill of the CH-53 crew hiding in a wadi. That's awesome.
@rickprice6312
@rickprice6312 2 жыл бұрын
Remember those guys. Also saw Zule (Jeff Zaun) in that last picture. Jeff and I were on the same strike planning team. Saratoga took its lumps. The worst was the ferry accident in Haifa.
@irongiant1961
@irongiant1961 11 күн бұрын
I still have vivid memories of the Sara's hangarbay laid out with the survivors of the ferry boat. And the casualties layed out on the flight deck. Real bad way to spend Christmas.
@davidruel213
@davidruel213 2 жыл бұрын
I got to Saudi Arabia as a Flight Engineer on MH-53's shortly after this mission. Thank you for telling the story.
@halb37
@halb37 2 жыл бұрын
Sandy has been the call sign of SAR escort since at least the 1960s. As for the A-10s being airborne 9 hours I can guarantee (from experience) they had a major flat spot on their ass for the next day. Because of the complexity of the mission I'm also pretty certain all of the helo/F14/A10 crewmembers landed with no adrenalin left in their system.
@falconeaterf15
@falconeaterf15 2 жыл бұрын
Read a book written by an A10 pilot. His squadron flew all the way to Iraq non stop. A gruelling ordeal in a plane that flies as slow as a WW2 prop plane. Even sketchier when the refuel probe starts leaking fuel into the cockpit ! Nothings easy in aviation. Especially in wartime.
@schwenk929
@schwenk929 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks , I was just about to ask if Search and Rescue always uses the call sign "Sandy".
@ryankc3631
@ryankc3631 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most accurate account of this event we'll ever have. Sometimes, the historical value of this channel is invaluable. BZ, Sir!
@flparkermdpc
@flparkermdpc 6 ай бұрын
SOMETIMES?!?!
@irongiant1961
@irongiant1961 11 күн бұрын
Great story. I lived this while on the Sara, with VF-103. The details you provided were spot on, and some unknownst to me up till now. I remember when Captain mobley came over the 1MC and told us that the news was reporting the Saratoga sunk. That made everybody's day.
@On-Our-Radar-24News
@On-Our-Radar-24News 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this one Ward! As I briefly mentioned in your preview post of this story, I was a young E5 Medic with the 1st INF DIV during Desert Shield/Storm and the day this happened we heard all of the open freq as well as the encrypted tac freq of comms. I had no idea at the time who was who, we just knew that 2 pilots were down and that SAR was out looking for them. I went back and looked at my journal for that day and it says..."Long day...no orders...no contact...lots of radio calls on open frequency for downed pilots of two planes"...I guess I was wrong about the two planes. Anyway just thought I would add my tiny insignificant participation in this story.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doc!
@On-Our-Radar-24News
@On-Our-Radar-24News 2 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Thank you, Ward! It was my pleasure.
@1-501Infantry
@1-501Infantry 2 жыл бұрын
Hey doc thank you for your service and welcome home!
@On-Our-Radar-24News
@On-Our-Radar-24News 2 жыл бұрын
@@1-501Infantry Thank you, it was my honor to serve!
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 2 жыл бұрын
Doc , you're a WAR CRIMINAL . 500,000 Iraqi kids killed . Do you think the price was worth it ???? Your honor to serve rotten WAR CRIMINALS politicians
@StrikerVTB5
@StrikerVTB5 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Pavelow aircrew member well done. The picture was taken from the right door (FE position w/50 cal) and not the cockpit. Always enjoy listening to your channel. Keep it up.
@citadelgrad87
@citadelgrad87 2 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome. My dad was CINC of 23AF, ARRS in the late 1980s. Pavelows rule the night.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 2 жыл бұрын
The complexities of navigating a battle space or the globe without GPS are immense. Its amazing that people have been doing it for centuries with any degree of success. From the air the battle space may not look that huge but when you're on the ground the desert out there is massive. It can be very difficult to differentiate the good guys from bad guys when your positioning isn't very accurate.
@chrischilds916
@chrischilds916 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting to hear the play-by-play on these uncommon but critical events, thank you. And the digital simulation of that truck exploding was nicely done!
@mattteee2973
@mattteee2973 2 жыл бұрын
That 'simulation' got a giggle out of me too
@williammfelmleebill1470
@williammfelmleebill1470 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate training aid!
@deadendfriends1975
@deadendfriends1975 2 жыл бұрын
Umm....that's real footage
@davewaterworth8846
@davewaterworth8846 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how realistic these simulations are these days ;)
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the roof when Boots came back. I'll never forget. Unfortunately, Spike never returned. LCDR (now CAPT) Michael Scott Speicher (July 12, 1957 - January 17, 1991) I proudly salute them all. Thank you very much once again, Mooch.
@rolltidelbc2832
@rolltidelbc2832 2 жыл бұрын
Roof of the Sara?
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolltidelbc2832 Bah, I wasn't clear… I was on the flight deck of the Saratoga. Some don't know what roof is and, of course, some wouldn't know it was the Saratoga. Thank you. I was in a hurry.
@rolltidelbc2832
@rolltidelbc2832 2 жыл бұрын
@@ut000bs I was crash crew on Sara at that time.
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolltidelbc2832 I was with VAQ-132.
@timsparks7049
@timsparks7049 2 жыл бұрын
@@ut000bs Sparky here, the OPS O in 132. TP was the CO I'm still in contact with Panic the pilot in the story
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the Jolly Greens!
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 2 жыл бұрын
And Hogs too!
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 жыл бұрын
@@terryboyer1342 Definitely!
@thomaslore730
@thomaslore730 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at NADEP Pensacola on the MH-53J PAVELOWS. We were told about this after things had settled down and it was a GREAT feeling know that we were able to give a hand in this rescue. This was the 1st rescue of a down aircrew since Vietnam. PAVELOW Leads...
@DCS_World_Japan
@DCS_World_Japan 2 жыл бұрын
The "digital simulation" of the technical was epic.
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a story. Us Civvies rarely get to hear the intricate details of operations like this, told so well. Mooch, you always do a great job!
@davidruel213
@davidruel213 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: Sgt Pennington was Pararescue (PJ), NOT a gunner.
@dandychiggins8329
@dandychiggins8329 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible story. As it turns out I was deployed to Haditha Iraq in 2007 with 1st Battalion 3rd Marines and have been to Al Assad many times. I never knew I was in the general area where a Tomcat was shot down. I’m glad both aviators are alive and well.
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 Жыл бұрын
Did you know you were in the area which had a more significant incident? The killings on November 19, 2005, in which a group of United States Marines killed 24 unarmed Iraqi civilians?
@dandychiggins8329
@dandychiggins8329 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedvawda1282 that’s not what the video is about is it
@dandychiggins8329
@dandychiggins8329 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedvawda1282 shall we discuss how many innocent Iraqis were killed by other Iraqis?
@ahmedvawda1282
@ahmedvawda1282 Жыл бұрын
@@dandychiggins8329 yes I know. After the 20 year anniversary of the war of mass DECEPTION I want people to remember the 1.2M Iraqi victims also.
@dandychiggins8329
@dandychiggins8329 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedvawda1282 no you don’t, you are trying to push an idea that the US went to war to kill Iraqis. And btw General Odierno was told by Saddams top generals that there were nuclear weapons in Iraq prior to the invasion. So unless your some deep cover intel agent maybe just comment as to the facts of this video which took place in 1991. Also those Marines you spoke of were charge with war crimes.
@moonasha
@moonasha 2 жыл бұрын
what a crazy story. It goes to show how absolutely essential AWACS are. And the A-10s in that story were badass too. You could totally make a movie out of this story.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly a better one than 'Behind Enemy Lines'!
@bartk07
@bartk07 2 жыл бұрын
Movie yes, but not Hollywood-like.
@heatseekerws6
@heatseekerws6 Жыл бұрын
Along the lines of the movie BAT21
@blueduster74
@blueduster74 6 ай бұрын
I was a AWS in HS-14 flying missions out of Bahrain. This pretty much summed up every rescue mission. It was a cluster every time.
@OMG_No_Way
@OMG_No_Way 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Ward tell stories all day long.
@dananichols1816
@dananichols1816 2 жыл бұрын
Again, 18 min of outstanding, detail-saturated history! This all happened while I was out of the mil for 16 years -- didn't re-enlist until after 9/11 -- ending in aircrew life support maintaining the egress/E&E gear for HC-130s & HH-60Gs. PRC-90s were being phased out for the -112s/GPS/encrypted radios (in the aircrew vests). 2012-ish, the new 406MHz GPS ELT beacons (attached to seats & inside the bailout chutes), were prematurely fielded with lots of critical failure points -- however, the faster, precise satellite acquiring GPS signals far exceeded the older line-of-sight beacons. ISOPREP very much in-play, as well. Many hours of disciplined mx and good mil techs behind each piece of your gear... and those systemic goddamn PRC failures were not on us, lads -- we (AF) had to send all of ours to the mfgr for almost every failure. Your happy hour discussion of returning to cel nav would have made my (recon & tac air nav) dad smile. You carry and tell high-speed, no bullshit stories -- all legit and real world, especially with how fast plans & SOP evaporate when the gear comes up. Great descriptions of the different players committing to cut-the-crap decisions and working the problems from their own seats! Thank you, Ward, and all of the old heads chiming-in with facts & stories!
@wretchedexcess1654
@wretchedexcess1654 2 жыл бұрын
One of my side jobs as a 67U in the Army was ALSE and the Prick 90's were just plain amazing equipment for the time. Batteries were the only thing about them that I had to monitor/test closely/often. Once I got on flight status I turned my cage over to another 67U. The equipment was very simple but, there was a lot of it and every piece very useful with at least two purposes for each Item. I was glad to have gotten the experience with the gear before I went to survival training.
@dananichols1816
@dananichols1816 2 жыл бұрын
@@wretchedexcess1654 Yes on those battery mx checks, and really frustrating that we couldn't provide more, expedient shop-level repair for the internal PRC problems. It was great that you had that familiarity when you showed at survival training -- huge advantage. By the time I retired in 2016, we were getting so much new gear, so fast, that I felt like an impostor for all of the stuff I did not know. Thank God for all of those sharp, great kids I had to carry the load and blast through the new iPad tech orders! I hope your flight status years were good ones. Thank you for showing up, every day.
@dohc22h
@dohc22h 2 жыл бұрын
Be like... Go tell the Master Sgt. your looking for a PRC E8
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely sent a few PV2’s to see the Prick E7!
@mikeareno7406
@mikeareno7406 2 жыл бұрын
to my knowledge the PRC-112 never passed the Standard Navy Water Immersion Test no matter what they did to it
@rattler0812
@rattler0812 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the movie "Heroes of Desert Storm" from ages ago where their shoot down was part of the movie. They portrayed it as at night and more towards the opening hours of the air war. But this is great to hear the actual story. Thank you for sharing this.
@clwatts
@clwatts 2 жыл бұрын
That produced a cheek squeezing for me and I wasn't even there.
@reggierico
@reggierico 2 жыл бұрын
An outstanding recount of that incredible time period in our lives. I was at King Fahd during the entire Desert Shield build up. The 20th SOS, the Pave Low guys, were certainly the right choice for this mission. The INS did have a ring laser gyro that made it pretty accurate but you had to update it regularly in order to keep that small CEP. A good friend of mine was in the 20th and put this on his Facebook. Thanks, LTC. Bill Berner! It is always bitter sweet to hear these great stories because our squadron lost 14 great guys during Desert Storm. Thanks again, Ward Carroll, great job as usual.
@antiskell
@antiskell 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ward - as a guy that has serious PTSD , after almost 20 years as a firefighter paramedic in an urban environment and very very busy urban dept… and loves history ….. I appreciate your channel and level and steady delivery of small things of history to be remembered - I’m retired and KZfaq and channels like yours keeps me busy and entertained as a stay at home dad doing chores and learning g civilian life and schedules - thank you for your service The transition is hard but worth it - I have a healthy daughter and wonderful step mother that I reconnected with after not talking for 20 years - my high school sweetheart Maybe collaborate on PTSD for a video ? I open and honest - I’m disappointed in the lack of coverage and help - I’m fortunate to have a partner that cares for my mental health and keeps me in check Sending you love, wellness and always keep the blue side up I miss skydiving - something you guys never want to do if you are flying - always was a good release - My hand is jacked up - and I’m 100 percent disabled - so I can’t do it safely - hell - I’d rather eject for fun now just to fix my risers and have a smooth canopy ride down from 12000
@rossebbinghaus869
@rossebbinghaus869 Жыл бұрын
Sir, I served under the RIO callsign Rat. He made it a full career in 2007 I was in his retirement ceremony. He recounted his experience twice in my remembrance. Both times it came with heavy emotions. I personally moved on and was deployed in 2012 to Afghanistan where I personally had a event where I too still am effected by it to this day. Everyone handles PTSD in there own ways. Some better than others, the best thing we can do is acknowledge its existence and ruthlessness.
@carabela125
@carabela125 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ! I had one of those Datsun Kingcabs. It overheated but not like that one. lol
@michaeldavenport5034
@michaeldavenport5034 2 жыл бұрын
Great story. Always interesting hearing what goes on behind the scenes compared to the "Official release stories". Capt Johnson retired as Major General from the U.S. Air Force. He was awarded the Air Force Cross for this mission. As per the museum website: The A-10A on display was flown on Jan. 21, 1991, by Capt. Paul Johnson on an eight-hour rescue support mission during Operation Desert Storm, for which he was awarded the Air Force Cross, the USAF's second highest award for valor. The aircraft was delivered to the museum in January 1992.
@erievon1
@erievon1 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that they stuck around with our downed crew and told the approaching trucks "not today son..."
@weaponeer
@weaponeer 2 жыл бұрын
Capt. Paul Johnson (PJ) was known as likely the best A-10 pilot at the time. another great story is when PJ got hit by a SAM during Desert Storm and had a hole in his wing big enough to crawl through, and was down to flying the plane with just cable and pulley, and flew that plane home. you can see it in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9J9gZVj2Lerh58.html (BTW I'm a Desert Shield and Desert Storm Army Vet)
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 2 жыл бұрын
what REALLY went on behind the scenes compared to the "Official release stories . Empire of Chaos , Death & Destruction killed millions people , sent a country back to stone age , open the sectarian pandora box .Time for the fallen decay country Send ALL its WAR CRIMINALS to the ICC
@michaeldavenport5034
@michaeldavenport5034 2 жыл бұрын
@@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 you mean the illegal invasion of Kuwait by Saddam Hussein back in 1990 which led to Desert Storm in 1991?
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldavenport5034 That idiot got trapped like a rat by the Empire of Death , Chaos & Destruction . It was used by the Empire of Death , Chaos & Destruction to destroy Iran ( Google WAR CRIMINAL Rumsfeld shaking hand with Saddam Hussein ) . Koweit was the promised gift to do it . And that idiot felt on the booby trap . PS / When will USA send their WAR CRIMINALS to the ICC ??? I know the answer . Never . But karma is the bitch . At the end , you will get what you deserve . Clio never ever forgets
@dksl9899
@dksl9899 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this story as a kid in Reader's Digest, your wonderful retelling brings me right back to that! I still recall the callsigns and the "Smoke the trucks!" moment.
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 2 жыл бұрын
The way Ward tells stories is so captivating!!! Love his channel!
@180mph9
@180mph9 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally agree, such attention to detail.
@christopherdarling7096
@christopherdarling7096 2 жыл бұрын
Mooch, your description of the faulty location coordinates is a perfect illustration of von Clausewitz’s “Friction of War”, a concept unfamiliar to most folks. Well done!
@williammrdeza9445
@williammrdeza9445 2 жыл бұрын
What a great episode, Ward! You have a gift for story telling that draws us in while also shedding light on the facts of the incident. This took me right back to the early chapters of Punk's Fight and juxtaposed the scenario depicted in the novel with actual events on the ground. Outstanding and thank you for a great way to start out my weekend! The best part is the fact that both aviators survived their ordeal and were able to continue their service. It was especially neat that you subsequently served with each one at a later date. Thanks again for the most interesting recounting of this operation.
@johnciccone
@johnciccone 2 жыл бұрын
William, I write for a living. First, I must agree with you about Ward. He is a great writer, more important, he is a great story teller...two different talents.
@tylersathern1076
@tylersathern1076 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't have said it better. Gifted and intelligent.
@1jbunceiii
@1jbunceiii 2 жыл бұрын
We are so spoiled by gps these days!! I remember buying a Garmin gps back in the mid 90s, it was a Garmin gps 38. It didn't work very well in the cold weather, the batteries were not able to work very well. My dad had one he mounted on his yoke when he flew his bonanza. Great story as usual! I wonder if any military pilots bought their own to bring with them.
@DBWELDER100
@DBWELDER100 2 жыл бұрын
See my reply on this very topic! The short answer is yes! Semper Fi
@rong1924
@rong1924 2 жыл бұрын
The Digital Simulation of the truck made my day. Thanks for that.
@jameshisself9324
@jameshisself9324 2 жыл бұрын
15:24 Ahh the sweet, sweet graphics of 'digital simulation'. Thanks for making this tense story a little funny too.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 2 жыл бұрын
Only the best on my channel. 😜
@ibbylancaster8981
@ibbylancaster8981 2 жыл бұрын
These stories are so awesome. I wish when I was a kid in the 70’s that we had the tech that we do now because my grandpa and many of the men of the small town of Parkton NC had left to fight in WW2 together and some of their stories were absolutely remarkable. One of my grandpas best friends retired as a Brigadier General and was later the commander of the eastern NC Guard units. The man had some stories. They all did, and unfortunately, they are all gone like a breeze on a cool morning. God Bless all who have served our great country. Thank you again for the stories Ward. Maybe you could try and get some of these great older Americans that are left to share some of these stories they have before they are lost as well. Much love and thank you again for all you do and have done. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🏻🤙🏻
@belindaintexas8789
@belindaintexas8789 Жыл бұрын
My Father was a WW2 marine bomber pilot deployed to Pacific Theater. Flew a modified Mitchell bomber (PBH-1 modified with 3 canons and rocket rails?) No real action. Mostly guarding shipping lanes. His last flight was to deliver one of their bombers to a museum in Oklahoma. He took a Marine buddy on the flight who had never flown before. The windshield blew out, fortunately at low altitude. He managed to land and was told a replacement windshield would be installed the next day. My Dad said I have been flying these things for 4 years and my final flight almost got me. You can get some one else to fly this to the museum and he walked off. That was the end of his service. Pretty sure his buddy never went up again after that. Told to me by one of Dads squadron . I thought it was kind of funny.
@calvinhobbes7504
@calvinhobbes7504 Жыл бұрын
I served 20 years in the navy - most of it on carriers .... I must be about the navy's second biggest blackshoe fan of the F-14 .... I think I say that on all Mr. Carrol's vids, but it's true. I wonder what would happen if an true F14D airframe was updated with modern navy electronics - cockpit, RADAR, computers ... everything .... the badass engines we have today ... and had vectored thrust technology added. I think I'd work out ... fit into my uniform again ... and stow away on a carrier just to stand on Vultures' Row to watch one operate! :)
@cosmicyeti6804
@cosmicyeti6804 2 жыл бұрын
You are an AWESOME DUDE! And, as a proper-Irishman, you are a great storyteller. Take it from me, that IS saying something.
@rapscallion3506
@rapscallion3506 2 жыл бұрын
This took some work to put together. Thank you for investing your time.
@Pricklyhedgehog72
@Pricklyhedgehog72 2 жыл бұрын
That's a classic CSAR story, Ward! Thanks for putting this together for us to learn about some of these incredible missions, brave guys, and I do feel for Rat getting nabbed before help could get to him. I remember a friend at University just after Desert Storm describing being in Israel on holiday. They were issued gas masks, and plans were afoot to extract westerners out due to frequent threats of SCUD launches.
@donalddempsey1072
@donalddempsey1072 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as c-130 and c-9 crewman In the late 90's and early 2000's pilots using hand held gps on some flights before gps was incorporated on aircraft. Love the story.
@vxe6vxe6
@vxe6vxe6 2 жыл бұрын
VXE-6 Navs were issued hand-held GPS's. We used to tape a wired antenna to the outside of the plane, it was fed through the copilots side window. The GPS's worked well in parts of Antarctica. Part of the testing was to find the GPS blind spots. 94 - 96 time frame.
@donalddempsey1072
@donalddempsey1072 2 жыл бұрын
@@vxe6vxe6 I flew with VR-53 in the late 90s. Had a few members who flew served with VXE-6, load master flight engineer AM McMurtry rings a bell
@chuckprice4541
@chuckprice4541 2 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite episode so far.
@andrewmorke
@andrewmorke 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the second Iraqi truck bailed after the A-10 used the GAU-08 on the other hostile.
@apilotsstoryplansthatmadeg8167
@apilotsstoryplansthatmadeg8167 2 жыл бұрын
I was in VAQ-132 in 1992-1995. Jim “Panic” Panigall was the EA-6B pilot that this aircraft was escorting. Panic took me under his wing when I was a new guy in the squadron. He told me the story of getting his escort shot away from him. Once Panic’s mission was complete, he flew as low and as fast as he could to get “feet wet” as soon as he could. He remembers banging forward on his thrust levers, in an effort to get the plane going as fast as it could, possibly at 50-100 feet above the ground to get away from Iraq. He was never so happy to be over water and heading back to the ship. Panic did two cruises on USS Saratoga, including his first cruise during Desert Storm, and he did a three year tour as a FRS instructor in VAQ-129, NAS Whidbey Island, WA, before leaving the Navy. He now is a businessman in the San Diego area. (After Desert Storm, and another cruise, he wasn’t that excited about aviation anymore, as many of his peers became airline pilots later in life).
@bbarker5766
@bbarker5766 2 жыл бұрын
Ward this hit really close as I was a PC with VF-103 when this happened. I wasn't the one for that flight but I remember hearing the news that they got shot down and both were alive. Thank you for sharing this.
@davidnichols4770
@davidnichols4770 2 жыл бұрын
Col Tom Trask was the 58 SOW Wing CC during one of my tours at Kirtland AFB
@ChrisZwolinski
@ChrisZwolinski Жыл бұрын
Love hearing these unheard stories by someone who actually understands what he’s talking about but doesn’t make the regular viewer feel like they’re being talked down to. BZ
@eoyguy
@eoyguy 2 жыл бұрын
The digital simulation of the Datsun truck exploding had me rolling! Nicely done.
@jamescatrett2608
@jamescatrett2608 2 жыл бұрын
Great "What Really happen" story to this incident. For NAVAIR operators (in this story F-14B GRU-7A ejection seat equipped flyers), how was the use of the AN/URT-33 (ejection seat, seat kit beacon) handled in combat / high treat missions? Normal operations had it activating during ejection, broadcasting on "Guard" 243.0 MHZ (un-cryptic). Were they secured and activated manually post ejection (if needed) or removed from the seat pan? Another Great Presentation.
@dananichols1816
@dananichols1816 2 жыл бұрын
James, I can offer you this background on 'non-ejection' sequences for beacons, although I'm pretty sure the fighter crew had them somewhere in their harnesses too, as once they separated from the seat, everything was hanging on the risers and within reach. Hope to hear details from the huge wealth of combat experience vets who know what worked -- desert flats, versus the Alaska terrain that my wing's crews operated in normally. For the bailout (non-ejection) BA-18/-22 chutes: the AN/URT-33 beacons had a either/or "continuous" or "timed" mode selector, on the bottom -- you couldn't get to it while the rig was packed -- we normally set them 'continuous,' unless directed toward hostile environment ops. The beacon pocket sits high in the pack interior, and an activation plug (simply interrupts the "cocked," pre-armed & set signal circuit) lanyard is looped to the chute's folded/stowed risers. As the chute opens/deploys, the risers snap taught and the lanyard yanks the plug out... ELT "yelp" signal begins. Also, re the hostile area choices of an active signal (not encrypted on the ELTs), there was a pull tab on the side of the chute pack, integral to that plug-activation lanyard loop, that simply loosened the loop and prevented it from yanking the plug out during riser extension -- you intentionally did NOT to have an automatic beacon, then once on the deck and out of your harness, you pulled the beacon and could yank the plug and turn it on/off. The aerial antenna (one for the URT-33, and two for the later AN/URT-44, 406MHz beacon) ran from the top of the stowed beacon and up a narrow sleeve through the folded riser -- when the riser snapped taught, the tip of the antenna peeked out of the top, near the suspension line connectors... best, possible chance for a clean signal, as you came down. You wanted as much of it up high and clear, especially if you went into the drink. Unless you were left hanging high up somewhere, by your harness, you'd want to quick-release/un-ass yourself from being dragged or drowned. Non-ejection flotation was/still is the unwieldy, old LPU-10/P pair of under-arm cells, with a cumbersome, pain-in-the-ass wrap-around harness which interferes with a lot of your other flight suit/armor/mission-wear gear. Fighter/ ejection seat flotation rigs are a variety of "horse collar" LPUs, integral to your harness, which snaps into the seat-installed chute risers. (Our PJs use "PECI" flotation cells -- beer can size, clip-on cells with sturdy, yank-down activation lanyards, which you can move and adjust to fit whatever other gear your wearing...I really wished we could have gone to those --for everybody.) Our manual bailout chutes had standard (cam-over snaps and ring-pull) riser/canopy releases -- leaving you wearing just the harness and pack, containing your beacon, small pocket survival kit, MD-1 (ten minutes) O2 cylinder, Scot aneroid auto ripcord release system (14,000' release, plus-or-minus 1,000'), and your PLD (personnel lowering device) 150' nylon webbing line -- which was s-folded into a large pad/pocket, between you and the chute pack (kinda heavy & bulky) and could be removed for theater ops in areas without significant high terrain... like the desert. The canopies in aircrew egress rigs are almost all the classic, 28' C-9 multi-colored canopy, of which there are a ton of modifications for specific desires. Most fighter/ejection seat rigs have SEAWARS (sea water-activated release system) riser/canopy releases, which disconnect you upon immersion -- keeping you from being immediately dragged under by a windblown canopy... and buddy, you get yanked under fast, being dragged backwards by that big kite. I cannot recall if there is a similar system to activate the horse collar LPUs, especially if you're badly injured or unconscious. I know of an F-15 pilot who ejected at very high speed; I believe that hellish opening slipstream even shredded his mouth, so he could not later orally inflate part of his one-man raft (the main cell is CO2, but the tent-like spray shield and floor are oral). One of my (ex-fighter world) buddies knew him, and the gent later gave very credible been-there lectures. We began installing the (UHF) AN/URT-44 406MHz beacons in our (176WG Alaska ANG) chutes around 2012. As much as I was really glad and expecting greater reliability for aircrew survival -- especially in our high latitude/terrain daily ops world, where the older -33 beacon's signal was really degraded & the -44 beacon's pin-point GPS was acquired damn fast & accurately -- I watched a long, cascading shitshow of premature, rush-to-comply, often contradictory command guidance directives over fielding & installing these new beacons. The 'real world' failure events -- and too goddamn quick (AF) blame pointed at maintainers -- started coming fast and frequently. Wonderful, life-saving potential aside, it needed serious shake-down, but they flooded us way before they were proven. I really hope that the beacons have since evolved and work well. I had about 130 of them to install and maintain, and the Achilles Heel, weak components and unending battery & antenna failures had us in the middle of serious, up-chain complaints with the vendors. I loved the SARSAT/COSPAS immediate access database of who owned each beacon (especially a yelping one)... but my cold war upbringing and prior mil years still has me tight-jawed over sharing part of our E&E asset reliability/visibility with the Russians -- COSPAS is the Cyrillic half of the worldwide SARSAT thing. At Elmendorf AFB, the Rescue Coordination Center called the active duty aircrew flight equipment shop (2016) and advised that a beacon was active near them. A civilian supervisor sarcastically called me (inference being that it was the "dickhead air guard people") and claimed it "had to be one" of ours. I opened up the SARSAT site -- he had not -- and there was the active duty shop's chute number, yelping away for all to see... right next to the monthly report of how many OTHER false alarms they had been sustaining all along. I was, and still am, damn proud of my shop's good housekeeping history of having had only ONE inadvertent beacon in our history with the -44s.
@dudehuh5491
@dudehuh5491 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ALL for what You do !
@mopreppinmolivin
@mopreppinmolivin 4 ай бұрын
I was stationed at camp Speicher Iraq in 2003 (named after aviator Scott Speicher shot down in 1991). In 2009 I was stationed at Al Asad air base in the Al Anbar. One day I had went to what was essentially a military scrap yard looking for some parts. The civilian running the facility ponted to a crate sitting in the corner of the yard and I asked me if I knew what was in it. Of course I did not he then informed me it was the wreckage of Scott Speicher's aircraft that had recently been recovered in the Al Anbar. It was waiting to be shipped back stateside. I remember at the time feeling so grateful that they had finally found him.
@jouuueee
@jouuueee 6 ай бұрын
Photomate station on board Saratoga during desert Storm. Vf103 was a designated TARP squadron and we work closely with them to process their aerial photography. Did not know the details of the rescue. Phenomenal story. Thank you!
@bluehornet6752
@bluehornet6752 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful story sir. Here's to no one ever having to go through that sort of thing again.
@samilsilta9004
@samilsilta9004 2 жыл бұрын
Ward, You did it again! You took me right there! I felt like I was in one of the rescue aircraft during this operation. Well done in the finest traditions of storytelling.
@dohc22h
@dohc22h 2 жыл бұрын
Never ask a Master Sgt in the Marine Corps where the "PRC E-8" is located.... He might get pissed off.
@johnrossman6679
@johnrossman6679 2 жыл бұрын
I was one year out of high school and in the Montana National Guard as an 11B when this was going on. I remember being very anxious watching the news on the war.
@Repo8971
@Repo8971 6 ай бұрын
I was on the Saratoga that day. I worked in AC&R. Nothing glorious like a pilot. I remember Jeffery Zaun and Scott Spiecher, not in the same bird, but getting shot down.
@joeangell5652
@joeangell5652 2 жыл бұрын
First-rate graphics at 15:24! I felt I was actually there. Seriously though, another great video Ward! Thank you for everything you do and everything you’ve done. Take care.
@theofficialdiamondlou2418
@theofficialdiamondlou2418 Жыл бұрын
Damn nice setup , Marshall , a Les Paul studio , a Taylor , and a Rick. Sweet. Cool story also. Lol 🤠🎸🎶🤙
@ChristinanathanWesterfie-pr4jj
@ChristinanathanWesterfie-pr4jj 2 ай бұрын
Yess I also vote he should create another channel devoting this much attention to his musical ambitions...if ya need a drummer lmk!!! Cheers!!
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 2 жыл бұрын
Great Googly Moogly a fellow needs to dummy cord everything in their vest as to not lose it. Plus as a UH60 crew chief I had a revolver with all 6 cylinders loaded with flares. Most of time when our apache helos flew missions there would one UH60 that could refuel, rearm or pick up downed aircrew as needed.
@gmdsr1177
@gmdsr1177 Жыл бұрын
Funny, just saw you were in VF102 diamond Backs. I was in VMA 131 Diamond Backs in 80-81 USMC out of NAS Willow. They were deactivated in 98. We had A4 Skyhawks in 1980. Worked in power plants.
@bubbajeph
@bubbajeph 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear a positive outcome. I lost a coworker to a SAM 1st night in an F15E from SJ.
@jamesbambury
@jamesbambury 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic story thanks Ward! Any chance you could talk about the V-22 some time? I work for Boeing and my first job for the company was on the program as someone who made sure parts got to the line in time to build the fuselage in PA before they were sent to TX to be finished. I have also taken pictures of the original prototype in the museum where it sits today. It would be awesome to hear your thoughts on the program especially the two early crashes. Thanks
@woofhound1635
@woofhound1635 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mooch, great episode, love the IRL stories. Maybe some episode you could discuss F-18 pilot Spiker who was shot down in Iraq and was never found. I always wondered what actually happened to him.
@AA-xo9uw
@AA-xo9uw 2 жыл бұрын
Speicher's remains were recovered in 2009. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mN-hhJiGvp24ZJ8.html
@woofhound1635
@woofhound1635 2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-xo9uw Thanks for the correction, don't know how I missed that one... Good to know he was recovered and his family has closure. I was only 12 years late.
@mikeareno7406
@mikeareno7406 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that...I played a miniscule part in that incident. During the Gulf War I was assigned to the Paraloft at NAF Wash DC at Andrews AFB (Keeping the Iraqi's out of Naval District Washington) and being there we got to know a lot of the Heavy Hitters at the Pentagon. One was VADM Dunleavy (before TAILHOOK). I guess I impressed him. We had a schtick when Wives would call the shop you'd tell the callee "Its COMNAVKITCHEN or "The Pentagon, for you". I got called to the phone and told "its the Pentagon" and it actually was. An Air Force Colonel told me ADM Dunleavy had recommended me (by name) to answer questions related to the Survival Equipment available to Navy Pilots (He did tell me it was an F-14). He apologized for not being able to give me a lot of the details but asked pertinent questions and I gave concise answers regarding the "24 hour SAR" principle and "5 Pounds of Optional Gear". Especially specifics about Signaling Devices. Its good to finally have the details filled in after all these years
@elwoodzo
@elwoodzo 2 жыл бұрын
Did they keep a wheelbarrow on the helo for unloading them massive balls? This one had me gripped from start to finish - amazing content thanks Ward.
@charliealpha11f3b2
@charliealpha11f3b2 2 жыл бұрын
Small world...Paul Johnson, one of the A-10 Sandy pilots, was one of my instructors when I went through A-10 RTU. Cool story.
@dennisvwilson
@dennisvwilson 2 жыл бұрын
I was IWT in 74 (103's sister squadron) when this happened. I recall the utter sick feeling I had when I learned one of our Tom's didn't return. Thank you for telling the story and highlighting the often unknown amazing teamwork of our service members. I wonder if you might cover Lt Wetzel and Zaun's adventure in a similar way?
@richhoffman3218
@richhoffman3218 2 жыл бұрын
Mooch, Another thrilling, real-world event that shows just how hard it is to do something, even though you've trained for it. The fog of war was thick that day but everyone showed outstanding determination to get the job done.
@harrylime3.143
@harrylime3.143 2 жыл бұрын
Another great story I look forward to the next, I'm halfway through Punks War and it's great, keep doing what you do.⚓💪🇺🇸🍺😎
@josephlalis9030
@josephlalis9030 2 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at al jawf and ar ar throughout the war and remember this well.
@eugenemurphy2505
@eugenemurphy2505 2 жыл бұрын
the Fly Navy uniform looks great
@jonathanmimnagh8956
@jonathanmimnagh8956 2 жыл бұрын
I was aware of the MH53 rescue of a downed pilot but not the entire operation. Thanks for this Video Ward.
@jefferymaxfield7826
@jefferymaxfield7826 2 жыл бұрын
I was the bomb assembly ( mag Rats) LCPO ON Sara, I was up and down aft then fwd deep in mags assembling, recieving and delivering ord to the roof. I really had forgot about our Topcat being shot down. I remember Capt Spicer (RIP) then LCDR. thank you for jogging my memory.
@unpilot1
@unpilot1 2 жыл бұрын
Great story....and great story telling skill. You have a gift Ward. Love the presentation of facts in a professional manner.
@Racerxwilly
@Racerxwilly Жыл бұрын
Lol, love the "digital simulation " the commander shows us during this captivating tale. Another great vid Mooch.
@markmcleod4086
@markmcleod4086 2 жыл бұрын
Well told story, Sir!! Even this old Harrier mech was able to keep up!! Haha!!Thank you, and keep em’ comin!! Semper Fi!!
@flienlow6281
@flienlow6281 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I filmed Speicher 's cat shot and remember hearing the Capt on 1 MC saying he was shot down. The same for Zaun. We did learn that an F-14 had been lost as well, but I never heard the story behind what had happened until now.
@cplassen2138
@cplassen2138 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to those stories all day long. Well done.
@12what34the
@12what34the 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to stories like this all day, especially with Ward's excellent narration and the use of such cutting edge digital simulation 😄
@williammfelmleebill1470
@williammfelmleebill1470 2 жыл бұрын
Great storytelling, Mooch! I was nervous to view this: there are gossipy background stories within the main report and lessons; I am glad you stuck to the main story to keep focus and ensure "just the facts." You are a credit to your fellow aviators, sir. Ever thought of a presentation on the before/after military life of pre- and post- GPS implementation? 1990-1991 time period was a tectonic shift in situational awareness, and there are people under 40 who have no idea that GPS was a military R&D application.
@hannhonculada4269
@hannhonculada4269 2 жыл бұрын
They should make a movie of this story
@allyp7
@allyp7 2 жыл бұрын
great story to end my Saturday night!
@thebronzetoo
@thebronzetoo 2 жыл бұрын
Great info Mooch. Been to Al Asad a few times. Took several helos/crews from the 160th SOAR to ArAr just before the war started in 2003 (I was a C-5 LM).
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 8 күн бұрын
As an afterthought, could pilots be issued a polarized pulsed lazer to sweep the horizon in the horizontal mode until seen by rescuers. When contact is made, the lazer could be switched to vertical mode for narrowed beam width and more precise location. There would be a receiver on search aircraft that would activate when when a laser signal of the right pulse frequency was received. The rescue lazer could be set to frequency by the downed pilot. If about to be captured, the pilot could scramble the lazer output and prevent the enemy from luring rescue aircraft to a trap.
@davidruel213
@davidruel213 2 жыл бұрын
The picture was taken from the Right Door by the Left Gunner over the shoulder of the right door FE.
@PavelowGunner1122
@PavelowGunner1122 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to hear the history of this event from the Navy side. My PaveLow brothers have relayed it from our end, but it's cool to get Squadron props from our esteemed sister services. Well told bro
@rubenvillanueva8635
@rubenvillanueva8635 2 жыл бұрын
I was a civil ATCer, at (OETF), King Fahad Air Base, Taif, Saudi Arabia. (OEDF), King Fahad International Airport, Damman, Saudi Arabia. Surprised me when you said King Fahad Air Base. At OETF, we had a large gathering of F-111s, that came down from Mendenhall Air Base, UK. Brought in An F-117, that out of nowhere "just" appeared on my radar screen, he had a slight mechanical problem. The nightly sorties from OETF up to Baghdad were normal, but thoroughly enjoyed the recoveries. You could sense the adrenaline in the pilots as they contacted us.
@timgeist1450
@timgeist1450 2 жыл бұрын
I flew with Boots at NSAWC in Fallon in the back seat of an F/A-18B. I was teaching electronic reconnaissance as an EP-3E NFO ('98-'01). Boots taught me to fly from the back seat for the first time, and I had a blast! Every Hornet flight after that, I jumped at the chance for some back seat stick time. Thanks Boots! - Polter
@macedk
@macedk 2 жыл бұрын
From Denmark, Great story thx :)
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