Question: What if the Bridge personell onboard Prince of Wales had gotten distracted (i.e. by incoming gunfire from Bismarck and/or Prinz Eugen), so that Prince of Wales crashes into the freshly exploding Hood. Would the damage be severe enough to put the Prince of from her fatal deployment to the east, or might it even be so devastating that Bismarck and Prinz Eugen can proceed to sink Prince of Wales as well?

Uhm, how do you think would the upgrades affect Hood's speed? Adding armor that much, plus new armaments, would surely affect it. Do you think it's realistic to retain that 30+ knots max speed after refit, or a new engine with more SHP would be used?

If the Hood successfully managed to land several hits in favorable conditions, do you think the Bismarck could have been severely damaged enough to have stopped right then and there? This is assuming no hits ended up on the Hood.

what do you think would happen if churchill send two heavy and recent aircraft carrier (Illustrious class) or other cv instead of Prince of Wales and Repulse and with more destroyer and cruiser for escort. Personnaly i think singapour would not be taken

Given their number of cruisers and their doctrine for smashing through US Navy cruiser squadrons, would the Japanese have got more effective results out of the Kongo's if they used them in the original battlecruiser role as cruiser killers then trying to use them as battleships?

Pity, a red Hood looks way better

Did not know that.

Well atleast there in good company cause in oceonliner designs video it was a Mitch match of red and green in there thumbnail

Did this also apply to other British warships at the time, or was this just applied to Hood only? I'm curious.

​@@bigsai4472KGV was painted the same way in '41

Richard Todd played his commanding officer in the Longest day, next to an actor playing himself.

I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the actor but thier was one British actor who was rejected for a part in "The Great Escape" despite being one of the people who had actually taken part in the great escape

@@SSN515 I know I'm just trying to remember the name of the other actor who was rejected for the movie despite being one of the escapees. He wasn't a big name actor but had a relitivly solid career doing small parts on both film and TV in the 50s and 60s

This same actor walked around the "set" of the bridge of Prince of Wales, with his eyes closed and used his hands to feel the position of everything. He apparently said that he could tell that everything was in the right place, even though he wasn't looking. A small part in the film maybe, but his deliverance was very memorable and one of those people whome it would have been a privelage to shake hands with and thank for all their efforts on our behalf I think.

Must have been tough having to recite the line about HMS Hood being blown up. Also, the American reporter was playing himself.

@Chris George In our darkest hour, Hood returns.

"Hood,NOOOOO" "Ahead Flank,you fools"

And Bismarck comes sailing out of the fog bank at flank speed, wearing " the ONE RING OF POWER " !

This new Hood’s more grumpy than the old one.

Hmm, is that perhaps a Yuro reference?

🤣🤣🤣 Plantation of tea trees onboard hood

No wonder it got tea-bagged. And it's disappointing to see that the historically accurate camo doesn't show the ship in two separate pi......static

And the french would add room service, a concierge, and a trendy if overpriced bistro... oh wait that's just predreadnoughts.

Its a Yuro reference, quoted from Hot Majestick Shtick(How to Hood)

He must have been extremely happy once the news that Bismarck sank came in.

I find it rather ironic that two ships that through the 20s and 30s were seen as if not the actual flagships but the spiritual flagships of their respective fleets. Both were destroyed in similar circumstances in the same year.

@@ki-youngjang4067 bismarck become submarine

@@philvanderlaan5942 Well Bismarck was only launched in 1939, so it didn't spend the 20s and 30s doing anything.

@@calebdoty9090 ship I was thinking of was USS Arizona

Honestly Hood had a more fitting death than HMS Repulse being bombed to death by planes, or even worse, HMS Renown being sold for scrap.

Hood and Bismarck lay on the ocean floor exactly 1100 miles from each other

heh, I personalyl have to wonder if all the ideas about needing to penetrate X thickness of armor... maybe the trick is that it wasn't? Maybe the Germans got lucky enough to hit a damaged armor plate? I dunno.

@@immort4730 I’m sure the crew of HMS Renown are quite a bit happier.

@@immort4730 yeah, at least Hood died in battle.

He said butterfly not bus flying.

Azores

This was perfect

Chaos theory!

Ditto

I personally believe a refitted Hood would have been the most beautiful ship ever made if they made her that way.

Elongated New Orleans class

@@kaijudirector5336 I politely disagree, as I hate that castle superstructure of modernized british ships, but of course it depends on personal taste. I like tripod masts.

The H.M.S.HOOD was launched in 1920. By the time she was sunk she was 21 years old. Bismarck was launched in 1939. 2/ 14 / 39.

I kept going back and ogling it. Not as tall as the Vanguard (which I remember) but a Hood/Vanguard mix and more elegant than Lord Strabolgi's 'super battleship'.

Yes, it was that Bolivian hummingbird that caused me to fail my driving test..... 🙄

Plot twist: The son was talking to his father admiral Holland alone at night circa 1945

What was his reaction when Hood sank?

@@emperorflare8911 Likely a mixture of “good god” “this was a massive waste of time” and “im gonna rip hitlers ball off” Edit: balls changed to ball, hitler had only a singular ball

My great uncle was transferred from hood to a K.G. 5 battleship a week before she left for the Denmark straight

​@@harryjohnson9215 Similarly, a good dhildhood friend of my dad - a real 'fireeater' by all accounts, transferred to submarines so he could see some 'real action'. He survived the war. The world is a strange old place.

@@robertcottam8824 it is indeed

A boy sailors who was adopted by my maternal grandmother was one of the 1415. #wewillrememberthem

Do note, any discussion outside of hood in Falklands is strictly prohibited.

Meanwhile, in any game that lets me build ships, I tend to just make them into really big catamarans or trimarans. Or failing this, I would make it a pseudo-catamaran in which the two hulls are somewhat fused together, such that the profile of the vessel is somewhat W shape rather than the somewhat bulbous U-V shape of normal hulls. The real question (for me in this situation) is whether its viable to make a shallower turret. A W-hull which is shorter than a normal ship would of course be stable, and wouldn't need much armor for the upper bottom of the "W" part. So if the height of the ship (in terms of the total hull) were a bit less, then you start taking advantage of having less surface area you need to put armor on, as well as less stability issues from putting heavy armor on the wider deck (which is needed if we consider bombs from above). If you wanted to be really ambitious for the era, you could widen the "W" further and put wings in the bottom gap as basically hydrofoils to allow it to move a number of knots faster (Maybe 3-5? its not some modern lightweight hydrofoil we are talking about here). I wonder. We've seen the famous Russian "pancake" ship. But have there been any other interesting non-standard hull experiments in the past 500 years? I mean, there was also kinda the turtle ship, but it was still mostly a normal ship with just extra armor and basically made to NOT have a deck (it was designed to counter a navy that liked to board enemy ships, and did so very well by being loaded with heavy armor and high power, short range guns pointing everywhere to just make a huge mess of things... but the hull itself wasn't very special). Before things like a few modern stealth ship designs, how often have navies tried looking into non-standard hulls, or multi-hull designs, and so forth?

@@SephirothRyu basically you loose speed, the length of the waterline is a determining factor. A wider beam gives you a longer waterline when heeled over but this applies more to sailing ships than the post-steam era, typically speed is a key metric.

It would have been amazingly 🤩

Not just that, with Vanguard as a CV and modernised instead of Victorious the RN might save enough money (even while placing Hood in reserve) to make a good case for britain needing the CVA-01 class more than the TSR-2. In that case it would be Hood and 1-2 full fleet carriers carrying proper naval strike aircraft (instead of just VTOL Harriers) all bearing down on the Falklands. Yeah, that would be a bad time to be in the argentine armed forces.

@@IO-hh2fz Chances are that Argentina would not have invaded if Britain had a full fleet carrier.

Ironically enough, if Hood was somehow present with at the Falklands, I don't think the Argentinian Navy would have even attempted a sortie and the Belgrano would have stayed in port and finished out its days probably being scrapped in the 2000s. The possibility of a shootout between the Belgrano and the Hood while a wet dream for naval enthusiasts would have been impossible unless the Belgrano was able to somehow close range and use her faster rate of fire to eliminate Hood's fire control and command sections of the ship.

The other nice thing about that scenario is that had Hood returned from the Falklands as the victorious flagship of the expeditionary force, scrapping her would have lead to a huge public outcry and she'd probably be a museum ship by now.

more like "cursed"

@@gokbay3057 blursed, beautiful and cursed

Totally speechless. 😶😶

Be a Jellicoe not a Beatty

Sire. You made no attempt to escape from the bridge.

You been noughty, sir.

Much lol sir

I'll blame you for that...

sire, what happened ??

My uncle was one of those men.

...and I also mourn the loss of those Bismarck crewmen floundering near Dorsetshire's scrambling nets when the cruiser had to leave them, ostensibly because a periscope had been sighted.

They fought to spread Communism.

@@YTRulesFromNM Who did, the crew of H.M.S Hood?

@Jonah Whale I think the implication is that there was no periscope and they just left, which given everything I've read about both navies (British and German) and being a brit myself, I don't think they would have left unless they genuinely thought there was a U-Boat threat.

dont forget the chance to fight the daleks, maybe as a hidden unit of UNIT .. launching from London (where she should be, instead belfast) and then some guy in a black suit says: all a hallucination :)

😄😆😋😅😛😂😝😜

Space Battlecruiser Hood. Sounds like a cool spin-off.

There’s the Excelsior-class USS Hood NCC-42296 in Star Trek. Cmdr. Riker, Lt.cmdr la Forge, and Dr. Crusher served on the Hood before being transferred to the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

imagine a gun that can fire daleks at your enemy, that on spaceship hood. Now idea how the borg would react to someone shoting daleks at them :)

In my opinion the refit version Drach has shown looks very good. But the original one.. I personally can't stand it.

@@fritzfeuerdorn2833 fully agreed about the refit but why can't you stand the original?

@@fritzfeuerdorn2833 or, given that username is this just a German engineering vs British engineering thing hahaha (kidding, kidding)

@@1IbramGaunt I've been found out! Abord!

See would have been a “head turning, darn sexy” given the model refit we were shown... still what was, was.

I managed to read this as you wanting to actually build a full sized working warship. Idk how i managed

I wish, but my dockyard could only accommodate a 350th scale version if I'm lucky. I'm not sure if the world would agree with a 1:1 scale Warship😂

@@majoriix FBI wants to know your location

@@flexelsson1625 Crap... I think more than just the fbi want to find me!

I think you could kitbash a refit using parts from a Vanguard kit, to save you from needing a scratch build.

Me!

Stop it. My blood pressure can only go so high.

@George and Ruth Mallory Easy to say with eighty years of hindsight...

That concept on a broad commercial basis didn't appear until the 1980s. Oddly, it was the Home Shopping Network that started that idea. Britain in the 1950s didn't have any inkling of the concept - and neither did the US - because it was too expensive/impossible to get the wide reach needed to make such a venture viable.

No sword but I have my grandads little wooden barrel with 'from the teak of h.m.s Queen Elizabeth' on it.

Woah, now that’s certainly intriguing

The hell they didn’t know. A case of don’t ask, don’t tell. Boys have been sailing on British ships for centuries.

Especially exotic laundry bois.

How US place AA guns: do you see free spaces ? Why are there free spaces? Put AA gun there

All the Bofors and all the Oerlikons

"how many AA guns should we put on HMS Hood?" Royal Navy: "yes" 😂😎

All

Royal Navy: just a refit, enough to do the job will do. US shipyard; ignore them, I see more room for a gun there there there there there...... Royal Navy: (look of dread)

The British were hunting Bismarck, Churchill needed to sink it or he might be forced out of office

Definitely, especially when RN now have one less capital ship fast enough to catch Bismarck.

Plus the British tended to sledgehammer any German capital ship they could find. Out of port, they threw whatever they had at it. In port, they developed very big bombs to drop on it (or place underneath it). Plus given what would happen if the Bismark found a convoy that didn't have a battleship in it, well, I don't think the British would have much choice but to hunt it down ASAP.

I think that public perception was only a small part of the equation. A German capitol ship breaking out and rampaging in the Atlantic was a morbid fear throughout the RN. It's always fun to speculate the impact of media coverage anyway.

It was not just the Bismarck. The Scharnhorst & Giesnau were both at Brest after successful Atlantic raids. Had Op Rehinbung succeeded the Brits would have been dealing with the ugly sisters, Bismarck, and Prinz Eugen sorting from the French coast, plus the Hipper and any others ready to sortie via Norway/Iceland. Combined with a submarine offensive and maximum effort at air recon it would have been a Worst Night Mare scenario. Sinking the Bismarck was part of a larger campaign to neutralize the threat to the sea lanes. There was also the air campaign to bomb the Scharnhorst & Gisenau, and any surface ships in range that were based in Germany or Norway.

Amen! Such a shame she had such an inglorious end

She was. And though she's in three pieces, technically speaking, she's still with us.

Thanks.;))

She truly was a magnificent Battlecruiser

@@haube7028 🤨🤨

One word to corroborate your comment... Spitfire.

Been up since 11:30am the previous day, I don’t need sleep anyway

You can sleep when you are dead

Y'all deserve some sleep. History is cool and all, but your brain will work better on some sleep.

If it's an issue of penetration a bit of heat and lube usually does the trick. Maybe a tap or two.

The bottom line is that we know for a fact that a very lucky hit was scored. It's a question of exactly how it happened.

@@ErikHare That's easy, it happened because the Hood was out classed. The Hood was not a Battleship. Also I don't really think that much luck was involved.

@@go2mikerenzi Hood was technically a Fast Battleship, Hood had armor on par with Queen Elizabeth-class of Battleships

@@KatyushaLauncher the Royal Navy always designated Hood Go Boom as a battlecruiser

The theory is not Drach's, it and much of the research for these videos was first posited by Bill Jurens who Drach credits at the beginning of the first video. Jurens also provided some script feedback to these episodes I believe.

@@DrFatalChunk - Thanks for setting me straight. Good video, though.

Just a "subtle" "No no old chap. We aren't done quiet yet so why don't you toodle on?"

HMS Duke of York was bombed by the Luftwaffe?? When did that happen?? Or better, what did you smoke??

In the mid of 1941 the majority of the Luftwaffe was at Eastern Front. It would be a field day for the RAF, if the Luftwaffe had tryed to destrory HMS Hood in Rosyth Dockyard in an daylight attack. The Royal Air Force had destroyed Gneisenau in Kiel Dockyard in 1943 in a night time attack, but it was a lucky shot, because the stupid Nazis had let the ammunition on board.

I think you're thinking of Prince of Wales being bombed whilst under construction in Liverpool

31st August 1940 at 2040 Prince of Wales was damaged during a 160 bomber air raid whilst fitting out at Cammell Laird. A 250 lb bomb exploded between the basin wall and hull and caused flooding. Flooding also occurred through holes that had been made for fitting the internal degaussing cable. Dry docked and repaired with no significant delay.

@@admiralsirrusty3465 : Thats It!

Human or otherwise? Bit of distinction needed here.

Here's one, Bismarck at Guadalcanal.

@@MrSleepy677 or Bismarck at Bismarck Sea. Or better yet, Yamato at the Denmark Strait, and Musashi at Norwegian waters.

@@champagnegascogne9755 Throw in with Bismarck's rudder still getting hit, but It's by a long lance.

@@MrSleepy677 Imagine the Yamato-class BBs trying to survive the earthquake bombing raids

@@champagnegascogne9755 Better yet, picture Yamato and Musashi participating in the Channel Dash.

Not to mention the 1,415 people who died.

After Hyuga, would Hood even be surprising anymore?

Thomas No, not particularly. The only surprise Gaijin could conjure up at this point was that they dropped comparable ships to the Hyuga for every other nation next patch and raise their BR to 7.0. That would at least level the playing field.

@@armagonarmagon3980 7.0 should be the bare minimum battleships should be at.. Later ships should absolutely be 7.7 or higher... heavy and light cruisers fighting Battleships is NOT fun..!

Aye I shat myself as well, but it's probably a model done by the same modellers that Gaijin gets models made by. They're beautiful models all of them & my favorite is the Svetlana class Cruiser model, They really should keep making many more beauties.

Essex Class Carriers have been deployed to the location 😂

@@le_floofy_sniper_ducko7964 *SCREAMS IN 32 PLANNED SHIPS*

Lol.

Drachinifel's ultimate British nightmare: HMS Hood is called back into active service for the Falklands, and it proceeds to be sunk by one of Argentina's submarines.

@@jarink1 most likely outcome

HMS Hood, 1980's refrotfit www.deviantart.com/zyfle/art/H-M-S-Hood-Modernized-794685488

Belgrano was just a Brooklyn class cruiser, formerly known as the USS Phoenix, a survivor of Pear Harbor with 11 battle stars ⭐️ under her belt . As good a tried and true US Navy ship as was ever built, she was never designed to take on a vessel such as HMS Hood by herself. As the Belgrano, she was 47 years old when she sank. It would never have been a match for the Hood. I’m sorry to say, as a citizen of the city she was originally named for, I’m glad she had a quick and dignified death from HMS Conqueror vs slugging it out with Hood.

I am aware it would have been nearly impossible for this to happen, it's just interesting to think about. A WW1 "Battle of Coronel/Battle of the Falklands" style capital ship gunnery duel occurring during an age of Exocets and advanced sensor platforms would have been a sight to see. Maybe we could get this analysis as an April Fool's video from Drach.

Not if it defeated the Bismark. Not to mention, as a symbol of the RN, she would likely have been involved in just about every theater. From Normandy to Tokyo Bay. I think she'd be pretty well remembered

Here's a thought if Hood survived how would we remember Bismark? Would she still be as famous or would she join the other German battleships in infamy?

@@danielhowe5435 pretty much. Her reputation is massively overblown I'm afraid. A ship very hard to sink, but very easy to defeat.

Pretty similar to the argument that if Titanic didn't sink, nobody would have heard of her, apart from a few ship enthusiasts.

@@fouloleron2002 - Great point after all how many people have heard of RMS Aquitania yet she was the longest serving and one of the most quietly successful ocean liners of them all. Served with distinction through two world wars from 1914 to 1950. That's a pretty impressive record but other then ocean liner geeks nobody has ever heard of her.

Yes, yes it did (ps sorry for dislike I miss clicked)

So you mean she wouldn't be converted to a sort of "Missle Battlecruiser" that would serve until the Falklands and be converted to a museum ship? Huh

The Warspite herself was sent to the scrappers but she refused that indignity and sunk herself on the way.

@@enoughothis Warspite and (if she had survived the war) Hood definitely should have been made museum ships. It’s like a giant recruitment station where you implant the seeds of “the navy is really cool.” It’s an absolute travesty that Britain scrapped every remaining battleship in her inventory. I know Britain was just about broke after the war, but it’s just mindblowing that they’d just scrap these monuments to pride in the Royal Navy.

@@loganb7059, I was thinking the same thing. It's funny how a nation that gets all starry-eyed over brave sailors and their proud ships can show so little regard for them when those ships and sailors fulfill their purpose. The English sailors who defeated the Spanish Armada were left to die of disease on their ships after the battle was over, because that was cheaper than paying them. Legendary ships like the Warpsite deserve to be preserved for their role in history not unceremoniously broken apart for scrap. These ships defended nations and toppled empires!

@@enoughothis I am usually a pretty level headed guy but the people who decided to send the Warspite to the breakers deserved to be shot for treason against the empire and basic human decency.

IKR. But since what "stands out" to us was never "stood in" by her command staff removing it made sense and saved tons of topside weight.

is there a range at wish a detonating shell can perfectly cook a cod?

@@jwadaow Well..as there IS a way to cook a chicken by slapping it...probably yes :D

@@NashmanNash well, it has to be close to the shell to cook, but far enough not to be burnt as soon as the shell explodes, given the explosive mass that is there, and the sudden heat, maybe around 5-10 meters from shell exploding, assuming the cod WILL be cooked instantly on all sides

That be greate!

you can! its called Vanguard :)))

Hopefully, if (when?) they introduce British battlecruiser line split, we'll see something similar in the form of an Admiral-class.

@@8ouroboros841 i agree so they can add battlecruisers like courageous class, renown class, G3 class, or even incomparable

I'm a blitz player... I'd settle for them making her playable.

Given that the equally powerful and far newer HMS Vanguard of 1946 was scrapped in 1960, the absurd notion that a rebuilt Hood could have still been in existence as of 1982 is, well, totally delusional. The RN's missions post WW2 had little to no use for any battleships, nor did the nation have the cash to be able to afford one. Just manning one meant laying up at least one carrier and two or three cruisers, all of which were far more useful, and being ships, plural, could be in more than one place at one time.

Yeah, it would kind make things full circle with Hood technically being the first British fast-battleship and Vanguard being the last one.

​@@adamtruong1759 Hood the first British fast battleship? The Queen Elizabeth-class would like a word with you.

Hmmm... that's right, the Queen Elizabeth class were called fast-battleships, for the time they were built anyway, and I think Hood was boasted to be faster than her and so I would call her the first British fast battleship in terms of the new era of battleships, does that make sense?

I can see that happening in a computer game.

Adam Truong she’s around the same era as Queen Elizabeth class.

But....if it served Vanguard's role, it may have served alongside Jean Bart during the Suez Crisis Then possibly sent to reserve while receiving some upgrades(change pom-pom to sextuple bofors while removing Oerlikon, then to either Sea Cat or Sea Wolf) Then called up to defend the fleet for the Falklands, staying at the center of the fleet until it's time to vaporize shore positions(after the exocets and submarines are suppressed) AND THEN, the value of battleships being proven(especially with the modernized Iowa's running around at this time), MAYBE modernized along the same lines as the Iowa(3 or 4 phalanx, some quad exocets, 4x tomahawk quad launchers, and probably modernizing her SAM to 2x 32-cell Sea Wolf) AND ONCE THATS DONE she would be called for Desert Storm, serving alongside Wisconsin and Missouri to once again vaporize offending shore positions, before returning home for her final rest at a museum berth

- duct tape -

would have been more like arse I'm supposing.

Japan of the 20s-40s, being a government that had no need to account to it's public, could spend a fortune to update their battleline, and knowing that they'd be the ones starting the war, a bit of data that they did not share with anyone else, and so, they could do it on their timeframe. The 30s Kongo rebuilds also went farther, in that those ships were also lengthened, as well as widened. The only other navy that managed to do that was Italy, and their ruler also didn't have to win elections.

He probably would have ended up being hit in port by a tall boy bomb later in the war.

Just like Tirpitz, @@travistucker1033. Also, we wouldn't have one of the most famous raids, and the germans declaring that enemy commandos is the same as enemy spies.

The Hood was pretty much doomed from the start Holland knew this . Still targeting the right ship and scoring even 2 or 3 hits . He had the time but ... Doomed from the start I can't figure why it was even sent . Another bad Churchill decision.

It certainly hardened the attitude but given all those ships were on patrol looking for Bismarck then those resources were already deployed. Once Bismarck tripped any patrol then the plan was in place to close and destroy. That's why Bismarck and other German raiders had orders to not engage warships if at all possible. Any damage or loss of speed potentially doomed them as would be the case for Graf Spee and Bismarck.

@@travistucker1033 Pretty much what I presume, yeah, she would likely have continued her mission for a bit (possibly) before being forced into a French port for repairs due to the hits she received. And from there on it would have rained bombs until she would have been gone

Hood did/would have a _slightly_ better chance of surviving, simply due to being more well known and loved. Combined with being very recently modernised would help. She still isn't making it past the 60's, but there is *some* small hope for her compared to the other BBs.

He was. Iirc, when he started this channel he was still active in civilian ship design. He is currently retired though. Edit: I just noticed this comment is 2 years old.

Tanaka?

@@loganb7059 ; Kantai Collection's head honch.

@@loganb7059 He who must not be named.

Well, we do not want WT Naval going apeshit with all these superdreads and BC's just running around the place...

Tanaka: okay you can get Hood in the game, but not before defeating her FULLY refitted form (and we will magically turn her into a 200+ plane aviation battleship) as the boss of upcoming event!